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*) Added patched .EXEs for the Installer version.
Yeah, I think with any low-level run the first thing to be plotted out is: how can the attacks hitting the whole party be navigated.
What version is that, installer or IRO?
Are you going for a 0 EXP run? Let me know how that goes or if you get stuck.
Yeah, I've updated it now in my current files for v2.0.92.
.Cloud's Limit stacks proc for Limits, and technically every command used by Vincent's beast forms are Limit Breaks. It was an oversight on my part, I might set up the AI to exclude the range of his abilities if I have the space. Otherwise I'll call it a feature.
Cloud and Red share potential roles as all-rounders, with Cloud leaning more towards defenses and Red leaning towards speed. Having their Innate overlap isn't an issue because we want 1-2 characters to excel at any given role (all-rounder, offense, defense, speed utility), especially since Sega Chief lets you choose your lead character in Disc 2/3. It also helps that the .exe now alters Limit effects, so lower level limits are more valuable throughout the game.
Depending on whether you are playing on Arrange and whether you have Tifa in your party, reaching max stacks during boss battles will be unavoidable no matter how defensive you play. The battles where Cloud wouldn't stack much will be quick battles, in which case Red will also not get many stacks. This isn't counting post game where it's possible to end super bosses without taking much damage (thus not getting any limits) and have 255 for one or two stats.
I honestly had never seen his Inate actually do that in the previous versions though.
That said, thematically it was amusing and did fit from a story and character perspective, but gameplay wise I had never seen it actually do what it was supposed to do.
It's a pity he couldn't randomly copy one of the inates of the members in the party with him, but that would be potentially too game-breaking (either in terms of causing Cloud to be too powerful, or causing the game to crash lol).
The general premise of it will be a BIG help in battles where the enemy has a lot of HP or things get drawn out for whatever reasons. That said, it's true usefulness will not likely pop up until much later in the game, where-as the usefulness of other character's inates are pretty much set from the second you get them.
So a big help late-game, and kind of helpful with things when a fight gets dragged out for whatever reason.
The prior versions of New Threat didn't even give Cloud an inate ability until after you had claimed him from that resort town (the one that sinks into the lifestream) in disc 2. :shrugs:
The innates were swapped but the text wasn't (I forgot); Vincent now has the MP > HP regeneration and Cait has the passive MP regen. Vincent's one matches his Limit forms quite well because it lets that MP get used while he auto-attacks. Cait's is going to be changed so that, on top of the MP regen, he gets a much stronger MP regen while defending (+20 or something). I should mention the new innates for 1.5:
Cloud: When an ally is KO'd, he gains Wall + Regen (effect activates once - this innate only available after Cloud recovered from Mideel).
Aeris: Geo-stance covers more elements (space issue prevented this before)
Yuffie: Magic evade was dropped, physical evade set to 255% when hit by a physical but wears off after a few turns or if targeted by a magic effect. Issue with this is that accuracy gains evasion, which'll need something done to the .EXE. This problem applies
Cait Sith: Passive MP regen of +1 per tick; when defending, this becomes +20 per tick.
Vincent: HP sporadically raised by current MP as an irregular regen.
Cid: Starts battle with a STR/MAG boost, loses this for rest of battle if his HP drops below 50% at any point.
Update.
A Steam version of the mod is now available. It doesn't differ much from the PSX version except that Beatrix can be recruited at the end of disc 3.
I've tested it from new game to the end and didn't encounter bugs, but there may still be. Don't hesitate to tell me if you find one.
There may be bugs if you're using the cheats though.
Regen + Barrier? Would that work? Or....Resist?
Overdrive mechanics could be interesting; if his gauge filled when allies take damage might be a good one as well and a counter to Yoshiyuki.
The current innates are:
Cloud: Gains a strength or magic boost of +25 whenever an action of the same type is performed by the party (if someone attacks, he gains the strength boost, if someone uses summon he gains Magic, etc.) Only activates after he's been recruited again from Mideel.
Barret: Gains defensive stacks when hit by damage in the back-row, gains attack stats when hit in the front row. Stacks of both types can't be held together and gaining a stack of one type resets the other.
Tifa: Once per battle, will recover from a KO with 1HP automatically with Limit, statuses, ATB, etc. intact.
Aeris: When using Defend, she absorbs most elemental damage in addition to the usual 50% physical damage reduction
Red XIII: Slowly gains Strength and Magic as the battle progresses.
Yuffie: Gains a boost to physical/magical evasion when hit by an attack/effect of the corresponding type.
Cait Sith: Will periodically gain HP equal to half of his current MP.
Vincent: Passively regenerates MP.
Cid: When hit by damage, he'll gain Barrier if in the front row or MBarrier if in the back row.
I could swap Cait Sith's innate onto Vincent which would combo well with his Limit forms that don't use MP; that'd let me think of something for Cait Sith instead of Vincent. That or I could maybe enhance Vince's Limit forms by adding automatic buffs that get refreshed while he's running through his AI in them though that'd mean having to use those forms to get any benefits.
The root of the problem is that I'm flat out of ideas for what Cloud or Cid could have as innates, and limited by the space. I could maybe load something onto the enemy scripts instead, maybe a 'mark for death' effect when attacked by a specific character that lowers their defensive stats a little though enemies that change their defence (like Guard Scorpion) would be problematic. Cid needs something attack-based I think, while for Cloud I'd veer more toward a party-buff or something.
I've seen very different innates for several characters, is there an up to date list of all the innates anywhere?
