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Gameplay / Re: Final Sephiroth patch / Complete Sephiroth patch FF7 PC *work in progress*

« on: 2012-05-20 05:54:14 »

GF-San, how much progress has been made since your last update?

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-25 20:24:32 »

Ok, I'm done with this topic. I'm just...done. To put it like Jack Sparrow: "I wash my hands of this weirdness."

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-25 04:23:05 »

So much for trying to be civil about the how thing, or even showing RESPECT.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-24 20:18:27 »

I think both of you need to tone it down.

True, I apologize to everyone except blackdeathmessenger. Hopefully there is an ignore button on here I can click for him.

Dude,what the hell is your problem? Just because I don't believe what you believe?

If you want to continue this fight take it somewhere else please.

Hey,I'm not trying to start a fight or anything,really. Despite the words I used,  I wasn't looking for one.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-24 20:09:04 »

I think both of you need to tone it down.

True, I apologize to everyone except blackdeathmessenger. Hopefully there is an ignore button on here I can click for him.

Dude,what the hell is your problem? Just because I don't believe what you believe?

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-24 13:15:22 »

Blackdeathmessenger, first off saying "college kid that can't tell his ass from his elbow." makes you sound like either an immature highschooler or a closed minded old freak. Point is, if I was a mod here I probably would've thrown you out. But that could be just my mood ATM. Shizts like you come onto this board and think their all big stuff. Personally I'd side more with Chocobo_Girl on anything over your rude A55 any day.

Secondly, are you stupid or something, she put up posts where you contradicted yourself. "contradicted get" means she caught you on it.

And Eff Squall, Quistis is mine BIOTCH!

Actually furzball, the problem is, I just don't care what you think, so suck on that.

And I have no idea what either of you mean. When have I contradicted myself?

And I was just saying, the game would have been better with them as a pairing. I mean, really, Rinoa is too free spirited to really do Squall any good in the long run, and Quistis already knows how he is and accepts him.

EDIT: Also, the problem is that almost no one actually see the reality of the game, which is that Squall lives through the whole thing. I am not JUST an a**hole, I'm an a**hole with a point =p

Look newbfag, it's not about caring what other people think it's showing respect to the people in a small community board. The thing that sucks is now there is only one mod that comes on frequently and I doubt he'd try to use the banhammer as freely as I would.


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Contradiction get!

Basically either you have a hard time with it (most likely of the two) or you dont.

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Pschologically speaking, that would mean quistis would leave him to be himself and basically he wouldn't have the interest in her and she would probably lose interest in him. Where as Rinoa got Squall to go outside his shell. Therefore building tension and interest.

Also at least by my term of "free spirited" I'd have to disagree with you on that. Rinoa does seem dependable and faithful in the right situation. Only reason she dumped Seifer is he was an a55 anyways.

Yeah and calling someone a "Newbfag" is being real respectable asshole. Also, two different points, so the so-called contradiction doesn't count.

And that's possible, or they could have just used her to bring Squall out and then set him up with someone else =p And, just because you don't want to hear someone else's opinion, doesn't mean that the moderator doesn't.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-24 10:34:45 »

Blackdeathmessenger, first off saying "college kid that can't tell his ass from his elbow." makes you sound like either an immature highschooler or a closed minded old freak. Point is, if I was a mod here I probably would've thrown you out. But that could be just my mood ATM. Shizts like you come onto this board and think their all big stuff. Personally I'd side more with Chocobo_Girl on anything over your rude A55 any day.

Secondly, are you stupid or something, she put up posts where you contradicted yourself. "contradicted get" means she caught you on it.

And Eff Squall, Quistis is mine BIOTCH!

Actually furzball, the problem is, I just don't care what you think, so suck on that.

And I have no idea what either of you mean. When have I contradicted myself?

And I was just saying, the game would have been better with them as a pairing. I mean, really, Rinoa is too free spirited to really do Squall any good in the long run, and Quistis already knows how he is and accepts him.

EDIT: Also, the problem is that almost no one actually see the reality of the game, which is that Squall lives through the whole thing. I am not JUST an a**hole, I'm an a**hole with a point =p

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-24 10:16:11 »

Hmm, consider this. If we imagine that all of this to somehow be real (let's say, I dunno, we're in the same universe 100000 years in the future and there's this technology that will let us view the world through one persons perspective at one point in time then it will explode for some reason, and we pick Squall for the length of FF8, for some reason), and we have all this evidence before us, the Squall's Dead theory would seem a lot more sound, in that, in accordance with everything established in disc 1, it provokes a great deal less implausibility.

Of course, if it were real, my final stance would be that Squall was more likely than not dead but that ultimately we don't know and, as such, I would not state that I "believe" either possibility.

Nice explanation. Now people will never get off this subject. It all comes down to what people "believe" (as you put) about it. Though I believe that the theory of Squall being dead is just nonsense. I mean, if he was supposedly almost dead and all that, then the game wouldn't last as long as it does if it was supposed to be like looking at what his life could have been.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-24 08:03:34 »

Well, I'm not saying you couldn't do it that way, I just think outrageous theories like certain characters being dead with no proof (in ANY form), are, well, outrageous.

No proof in any form? Maybe you should have read the page I linked in the original post before coming to that conclusion. No proof in any form = saying that squall is dead without giving any back up on why you're theorizing this. The site provides plenty of it.

Looks like blackdeathmessenger is having a really hard time taking this information in.

No I'm not

Honestly, I have an extremely hard time even thinking it.

Contradiction get!

I would more easily believe that Rinoa was a transvestite or something.

She is. You can tell in some close up shots.

I meant concrete proof, not just the thoughts of some college kid that can't tell his ass from his elbow.

And "contradiction get" means what exactly?

And I was really making more of a statement with the whole Rinoa thing, though I really think Squall should have been paired with Quistis, really.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-24 07:12:18 »

Looks like blackdeathmessenger is having a really hard time taking this information in.

No I'm not, I just think the whole idea of it is an absolute farce which is making people over think the the reality of their games.

Agreed.

Finally, someone that agrees with me,lol.

I'm going to actually have to be one who disagrees with you. Not saying I believe the whole Squall is dead theory. What I'm thinking about is your statement "Making people over think the reality of their games". I would say play though the game the first time in pure enjoyment of it, then everytime after that do it simply to get a new perspective on the story and such. I've replayed games that I had played as a kid simply cause now that I'm older I'll catch/have a new perspective on the story. Like the old point and click adventures. Love them but ones like "under a steel sky" were hard for me as a kid. Now wam bam thank you mam, I can solve the puzzles and get the full story.

Well, I'm not saying you couldn't do it that way, I just think outrageous theories like certain characters being dead with no proof (in ANY form), are, well, outrageous. Honestly, I have an extremely hard time even thinking it. I would more easily believe that Rinoa was a transvestite or something.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-24 04:14:38 »

Looks like blackdeathmessenger is having a really hard time taking this information in.

No I'm not, I just think the whole idea of it is an absolute farce which is making people over think the the reality of their games.

Agreed.

Finally, someone that agrees with me,lol.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-23 21:12:29 »

Looks like blackdeathmessenger is having a really hard time taking this information in.

No I'm not, I just think the whole idea of it is an absolute farce which is making people over think the the reality of their games.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-23 20:37:18 »

Gaming experience may differ when offline

Especially since it's a game that can't be played online,lol. And really, the whole idea of Squall being dead was prolly someone's idea of trying to get attention.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-23 11:30:34 »

Ok, well, all that makes sense, but I really don't think that Squall is dead in the game or anything. Yeah, everythign is weird, but that's just how some games are,lol.

vague endings never get old.

personally, i think this is one well researched theory backed by quite a lot of assumptions. and it makes a lot of sense. what i dislike about it is that it makes all gameplay after disc1 feel a bit pointless.

i'd stick to believing that squall didn't die and was spared because edea remembered him from orphanage. for that same reason she spared your party members at tv station (when talking to seifer) and had seifer follow her.

Actually, I think the whole thing was just someone over thinking the whole thing instead of just wanting to see it for waht it was, which would be what you believe it to be.

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Completely Unrelated / Re: Hacking a PSP...

« on: 2010-06-23 06:43:38 »

Yeah but last I checked, the guy wasn't planning on publicly releasing his exploit, so who knows where that's gonna go.

I chill on the lan.st forums sometimes, so I know the guy, and I know the stuff that goes on there.  Main reason for not releasing it, is A) it's not developed enough to use to make a HEN or CFW right now and B) Sony could EASILY patch it.

A bit more work has to be done on it, and believe me it's being done.  The guy's using it right now to poke around the Go without use of a hardware debugger, and he's pulling up some interesting stuff.  That being said, down the road, it will either be released, OR, will lead to another exploit that won't be so easy to patch

Well, I hope that happens soon. I mean, I'm tired of not being able to play what I what on my PSP, especially since I own the copies of the discs.

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Completely Unrelated / Re: Hacking a PSP...

« on: 2010-06-23 05:04:36 »

Yeah but last I checked, the guy wasn't planning on publicly releasing his exploit, so who knows where that's gonna go.

Exactly. So unless someone actually has a way around it that they are willing to post for others, then we're basically boned unless we know a way to do it ourselves.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-22 23:40:52 »

Ahh, Legend of Dragoon. One of my favorite RPGs. I plomise, I will *never* get tired of that battle system. It's practically a bloody rhythm game. And the dialogue is extremely cheesez0rz, I love it. Wait what? Dart dies by the hands of the green dragon and dreams of Rose saving him, and the rest is just his life flashing by him before he dies? GAAAH! @_@

It's my favorite game,lol. And now you're just getting crazy. There is no death of Dart or any of the main characters, except for Lavitz, who gets replaced by Albert, and then another character at the end, though I don't wanna spoil who it is for any who haven't finished the game yet. But my point is, no one else dies, and Dart definitely doesn't.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-22 23:36:00 »

 sadly one of those games I didn't get to finish before my jinx of a sister stepped on the disk.
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Ouch, that sucks. You can find it on amazon.com for pretty cheap actually,lol.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-22 21:41:06 »

It's just a theory, like Timu said, think whatever the heck you want of the game and enjoy it how you like.

Good point. Well, I think Squall lives through what is supposedly the point where he dies,lol. That being said, I'm off to go play The Legend Of Dragoon (another game lots of people have opinions on,lol).

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-22 21:28:01 »

There's a reason the word Fantasy is at the end of the name. The only reason it's called Final Fantasy is so the creator's could make one long Fantasy game, and not have to worry about making anything more the game (though in some cases they made a little more). It's called Fantasy so they can do some weird stuff and get away with it.

Actually, it was originally called Final Fantasy because Final Fantasy was going to be Square’s last game before their company died. It just happened to be a smashing hit so they continued the series.

Also, if Squall (or any of the other characters) were really dead, then why would there still be a game over/ you're dead screen? And don't you think it would have been part of the game?

In some cases, like the squallsdead theory, the creators will put some elements in a game that will hint at something (such as the main hero’s death) but will never explicitly say it. This is just a tactic to create controversy and debates about such games. I believe it worked. Maybe they didn't even intend to make it seem so. In which case they are probably all lulzing at us right nao.

Qhimm's dead; this is just a nightmare about forum life - endless iterations of borken board software, trolls, prats, spam, and crap.

SRS LULZ.

Ok, well, all that makes sense, but I really don't think that Squall is dead in the game or anything. Yeah, everythign is weird, but that's just how some games are,lol.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-22 21:12:39 »

But Tidus is never dead. He's born as a dream.

Exactly what I mean. I just didn't put it so simply,lol.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-22 20:55:30 »

Hmm I for one actually agree with Tidus like the summons because he was also being summoned or is a dream of fayth like the summons.

Well, it could be true, but who knows, really. For all we know it could be something totally different then a direct summon by the Fayth. I just couldn't say what though.

Well. I think that since they portray him in the farplain in FFX-2 (endgame scenes not the one where shuyin shows up) that he obviously has a soul. So he had to have lived to some compacity. Everything in that world is made up of pyreflies just like how all living things in ff7 are made up of lifestream. So to that capacity of course tidus was alive.

... We may have to split this off into another discussion considering this thread is about squall. FFX Tidus being alive is a whole new discussion in of itself.

Back to the actual topic:

There's is really no way that Squall could be dead, and theories of other Final Fantasy Characters being dead (except for Tidus) are just crazy. There's a reason the word Fantasy is at the end of the name. The only reason it's called Final Fantasy is so the creator's could make one long Fantasy game, and not have to worry about making anything more the game (though in some cases they made a little more). It's called Fantasy so they can do some weird stuff and get away with it. Also, if Squall (or any of the other characters) were really dead, then why would there still be a game over/ you're dead screen? And don't you think it would have been part of the game? And about Tidus being dead, I think he was dead before the game started, and the Fayth just happen to choose him to go through time and help end their suffering (along with end the existence of Sin so there would be no more reason for them to continue being statues).

Edit: Like, what I mean is, that the Fayth were probably able to give him life once again, and were able to give him a physical form for a long enough time for him to do what they wanted him to do.

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Completely Unrelated / Re: Hacking a PSP...

« on: 2010-06-22 20:42:14 »

It's the PSP brite, so I dunno if there's a way to hack it.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-22 12:28:16 »

Hmm I for one actually agree with Tidus like the summons because he was also being summoned or is a dream of fayth like the summons.

Well, it could be true, but who knows, really. For all we know it could be something totally different then a direct summon by the Fayth. I just couldn't say what though.

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General Discussion / Re: The Squall's Dead Theory

« on: 2010-06-22 08:40:43 »

I suppose it's how you interpret the events. Final Fantasy X had some small loopholes in the story.

As true as that is, he was technically just a dream, so everyone else was real, and he technically wasn't, they could just see him.

If they could "just see him" he wouldn't have been able to physically affect anything much less do battle and kiss the heroine. I believe he falls under the same category as summons. In fact it's hard to relate FFX-2 when he was able to come back. After all, in FFX once all the fayth had been "stoned" or lost their forms whatever, he started fading away. So then who was the fayth that allowed him to come back (besides the obvious kid behamoth fayth)

Well, I dunno about a summons, or that much about the mechanics of the game, I just know what is true within the game reality, and the reality is that he was a dream of the faith, and therefore not alive.