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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #900 on: 2015-12-20 03:56:15 »
Nothing yet but mine will appear here soon.

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #901 on: 2015-12-20 14:27:41 »
When I click on Workshop > Check for subscription nothing new shows up. I am using the original 1998 version which I installed with Tom's Installer. Any help?


Edit: jesus nevermind, I'm blind. Anyway I installed some mods and it's all set up however when I click "Launch Game" that little blue circle shows up on the cursor yet nothing happens. any help? I have set everything to the correct path.
« Last Edit: 2015-12-20 14:42:51 by Aerith-san »

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #902 on: 2015-12-20 18:08:03 »
Maybe run the converter again it usually fixes everything for me.

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #903 on: 2015-12-21 05:17:31 »
So  I saw my problem in the FAQ but not an applicable fix for it,

My problem is whenever i try to open the 7th heaven mod program, i get the Oops "Null" installation error where the FAQ basically just sends me back to step 3. That would be amazing except for the fact that I can't set the file locations because the 7th Heaven program won't actually open to let me change any of those settings... it just gives the oops message and i can't get passed it... does anyone have any knowledge on how to fix this or am i screwed? I've already completely uninstalled and reinstalled the game, the mod programs, and when i uninstalled i literally went through every folder to make sure everything was deleted so i could get a fresh install... The problem still remains and i have no idea how to fix it. T-T

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #904 on: 2015-12-21 06:23:27 »
Your problem is the 3rd question in the FAQ :)

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #905 on: 2015-12-21 12:24:49 »
Okay... I converted the Steam version instead and now the window shows up but it crashes right on startup.

Here's APP.LOG:

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[00000000]
INFO: FF7/FF8 OpenGL driver version 0.8.1b
[00000000] INFO: Auto-detected version: FF7 1.02 US English
[00000000] INFO: ATI Technologies Inc. AMD Radeon HD 8250 4.3.12618 Compatibility Profile Context 13.251.9001.1001
[00000000] INFO: OpenGL 2.0 support detected
[00000000] INFO: Found swap_control extension
[00000000] INFO: Max texture size: 16384x16384
[00000000] INFO: Original resolution 640x480, window size 800x600, output resolution 800x600, internal resolution 1280x960
[00000000] INFO: Shader limits: varying 128, vert uniform 1024, frag uniform 1024
[00000000] INFO: FFMpeg movie player plugin loaded
[00000000] INFO: FFMpeg version SVN-r25886, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
[00000000] INFO: Loading external library Multi.dll
[00000000] LOCK UNLOCK TEST
[00000001] MATRIX INITIALIZE
[00000001] INITIALIZE DD/D3D END
[00000001] initializing sound...
[00000001] creating dsound primary buffer
[00000001] reading audio file
[00000001] loading static sounds
[00000001] sound initialized
[00000001] INITIALIZING MIDI...
[00000001] selecting device 0:CoolSoft VirtualMIDISynth, mid=65535, pid=65535,
[00000001] midi data type: YAMAHA XG MIDI
[00000001] using midi data file: D:\FINAL FANTASY VII\data\midi\xg.lgp
[00000001] MULTIMEDIA ERROR: The function is not supported. in FILE C:\lib\src\sound\midi1.cpp LINE 356
[00000001] midiOutGetVolume returned: ffffffff
[00000001] Volume control unsupported
[00000001] MIDI INITIALIZED

Here's crash.dmp.


Any solutions? Thanks.

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #906 on: 2015-12-21 21:08:57 »
Says multi media so maybe look up the path it is giving.  If you get an error message then you to try to fix it.

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #907 on: 2015-12-21 21:09:44 »
Hi class mod manger  i get this error message when trying to launch 7th heaven


System.TypeInitializationException: The type initializer for 'Iros._7th.Workshop.Sys' threw an exception. ---> System.InvalidOperationException: There is an error in XML document (0, 0). ---> System.Xml.XmlException: Root element is missing.
   at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.Throw(Exception e)
   at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.ParseDocumentContent()
   at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.Read()
   at System.Xml.XmlTextReader.Read()
   at System.Xml.XmlReader.MoveToContent()
   at Microsoft.Xml.Serialization.GeneratedAssembly.XmlSerializationReaderSettings.Read8_Settings()
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializer.Deserialize(XmlReader xmlReader, String encodingStyle, XmlDeserializationEvents events)
   at System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializer.Deserialize(Stream stream)
   at Iros._7th.Util.Deserialize[T](Stream s) in c:\Iros\7thWrapperLib\Util.cs:line 10
   at Iros._7th.Util.Deserialize[T](String file) in c:\Iros\7thWrapperLib\Util.cs:line 14
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.Sys..cctor() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\Sys.cs:line 100
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.Sys.get_Catalog()
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.pTags.Init() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\pTags.cs:line 20
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.pTags..ctor() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\pTags.cs:line 29
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.fLibrary.InitializeComponent() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\fLibrary.Designer.cs:line 44
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.fLibrary..ctor() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\fLibrary.cs:line 17
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.Program.Main() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\Program.cs:line 18

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #908 on: 2015-12-21 21:54:01 »
Okay... I converted the Steam version instead and now the window shows up but it crashes right on startup.

Here's APP.LOG:

Here's crash.dmp.


Any solutions? Thanks.

Rerun the game converter and choose a different sound device than the Yamaha XG Midi.

Hi class mod manger  i get this error message when trying to launch 7th heaven


System.TypeInitializationException: The type initializer for 'Iros._7th.Workshop.Sys' threw an exception. ---> System.InvalidOperationException: There is an error in XML document (0, 0). ---> System.Xml.XmlException: Root element is missing.
   at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.Throw(Exception e)
   at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.ParseDocumentContent()
   at System.Xml.XmlTextReaderImpl.Read()
   at System.Xml.XmlTextReader.Read()
   at System.Xml.XmlReader.MoveToContent()
   at Microsoft.Xml.Serialization.GeneratedAssembly.XmlSerializationReaderSettings.Read8_Settings()
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializer.Deserialize(XmlReader xmlReader, String encodingStyle, XmlDeserializationEvents events)
   at System.Xml.Serialization.XmlSerializer.Deserialize(Stream stream)
   at Iros._7th.Util.Deserialize[T](Stream s) in c:\Iros\7thWrapperLib\Util.cs:line 10
   at Iros._7th.Util.Deserialize[T](String file) in c:\Iros\7thWrapperLib\Util.cs:line 14
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.Sys..cctor() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\Sys.cs:line 100
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.Sys.get_Catalog()
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.pTags.Init() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\pTags.cs:line 20
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.pTags..ctor() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\pTags.cs:line 29
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.fLibrary.InitializeComponent() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\fLibrary.Designer.cs:line 44
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.fLibrary..ctor() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\fLibrary.cs:line 17
   at Iros._7th.Workshop.Program.Main() in c:\Iros\7thWorkshop\Program.cs:line 18

Go read the 3rd question of the FAQ section on page 1.

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #909 on: 2015-12-22 00:41:42 »
Hi, thanks for making this. I can't wait to try it out. I'm having trouble getting it running though. When I click the workshop tab and select "OpenGL driver configuration" nothing happens. No pop up box, nothing. I can still use the application and select everything else but I get nothing with OpenGL driver configuration. Does anybody have any idea what I can do to get this running?

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #910 on: 2015-12-22 02:21:57 »
Hey guys i finaly managed to setup FF7 Steam+7H+Reunion R03b working w graphics, but just music is left. I wont post the whole text here, it maybe the wrong thread so here:

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=15901.0

I know its an old thread but its the most appropriate one for my theme/subject. Or if that thread is dead do i make a new one? or a similar active one exists where i can post this? If its all the same can someone help to solve the music part? Or direct me to solution?

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #911 on: 2015-12-22 07:08:26 »
quick question i want to use the 60fps battle mod but im wondering if its comptiable with 7th heaven?

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #912 on: 2015-12-22 08:33:48 »
Rerun the game converter and choose a different sound device than the Yamaha XG Midi.

Tried that, still crashes. Used the VirtualMIDISynth, the crappy Microsoft Wavetable Synth as well, using the General MIDI... still crashes. At least the error is something a bit different.

APP.LOG:

Quote
[00000000] INFO: FF7/FF8 OpenGL driver version 0.8.1b
[00000000] INFO: Auto-detected version: FF7 1.02 US English
[00000000] INFO: ATI Technologies Inc. AMD Radeon HD 8250 4.3.12618 Compatibility Profile Context 13.251.9001.1001
[00000000] INFO: OpenGL 2.0 support detected
[00000000] INFO: Found swap_control extension
[00000000] INFO: Max texture size: 16384x16384
[00000000] INFO: Original resolution 640x480, window size 800x600, output resolution 800x600, internal resolution 1280x960
[00000000] INFO: Shader limits: varying 128, vert uniform 1024, frag uniform 1024
[00000000] INFO: FFMpeg movie player plugin loaded
[00000000] INFO: FFMpeg version SVN-r25886, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
[00000000] INFO: Loading external library Multi.dll
[00000000] LOCK UNLOCK TEST
[00000001] MATRIX INITIALIZE
[00000001] INITIALIZE DD/D3D END
[00000001] initializing sound...
[00000001] creating dsound primary buffer
[00000001] reading audio file
[00000001] loading static sounds
[00000001] sound initialized
[00000001] INITIALIZING MIDI...
[00000001] selecting device 1:Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth, mid=1, pid=27,
[00000001] midi data type: GENERAL MIDI
[00000001] using midi data file: D:\FINAL FANTASY VII\data\midi\midi.lgp
[00000001] midiOutGetVolume returned: ffffffff
[00000001] MIDI INITIALIZED
[00000001] ERROR: unhandled exception

Here's crash.dmp.

The crash.dmp I had sent before had 15 MB, now this one has a whooping 69,2 MB... I wonder what happened there. o_O

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #913 on: 2015-12-22 10:17:57 »
I'm having trouble downloading some of the mods, in particular:

The Battle Textures mod, the Field Textures mod, the Media-Movies mod, the Music and Sound mod, the Spell Textures mod and the World Textures mod.

Tried it in different times over the last week and a half, and those are the only mods that just refuse to download, no matter how long I wait or when I try.

If someone on here can verify that they can download the mods, or maybe let me know why I can't, that would be great :)

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #914 on: 2015-12-22 12:00:50 »
I'm having trouble downloading some of the mods, in particular:

The Battle Textures mod, the Field Textures mod, the Media-Movies mod, the Music and Sound mod, the Spell Textures mod and the World Textures mod.

Tried it in different times over the last week and a half, and those are the only mods that just refuse to download, no matter how long I wait or when I try.

If someone on here can verify that they can download the mods, or maybe let me know why I can't, that would be great :)
I'm not sure why you are not able to download them but I downloaded literally all of them through the app yesterday without an issue.

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #915 on: 2015-12-22 13:25:03 »
Well, after spending 5+ hours trying to get this to work, it just doesn't work for me. I have all kinds of issues.

"Access is denied"
"System was unable to find the specified registry key or value"
Unable to open OpenGL driver configuration
"NO SOUNDDEVICE SELECTED"
and more, etc...

I came to this one because people recommended it as an easy way to play an upgraded FF7 without the hassle of the usual modding process but this has been nothing but a headache. I don't want to spend any more time on this. I'm just going to download the individual mods I want and do it without 7th heaven. Thanks though.

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #916 on: 2015-12-22 19:18:09 »
Are you using it on admin?  That is the number one cause of access issues.

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #917 on: 2015-12-22 19:41:16 »
hey, i don't have any troubleshooting or installation issues, but i just wanted to publicly thank all the people who made this mod. you folks seem really generous with your time and attention spent on solving so many things that have gone wrong when people try the mod. so, i just wanted to shout out and say that i got the package to work with my steam version over the course of two days using google, this forum, and some patience. it is a ton of fun replaying ff7 with all these updates, thanks so much for all your work in putting it all together and making it happen.

enjoy your holidays and have a happy new year, cheers!

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #918 on: 2015-12-23 11:23:35 »
hey, i don't have any troubleshooting or installation issues, but i just wanted to publicly thank all the people who made this mod. you folks seem really generous with your time and attention spent on solving so many things that have gone wrong when people try the mod. so, i just wanted to shout out and say that i got the package to work with my steam version over the course of two days using google, this forum, and some patience. it is a ton of fun replaying ff7 with all these updates, thanks so much for all your work in putting it all together and making it happen.

enjoy your holidays and have a happy new year, cheers!

i may have spoken too soon, haha. one issue came up earlier today and now 7th heaven cannot launch the game! everything was fine for the past 2-3 days, so i'm confused as to what might have changed!

the current situation is that i can launch 7th heaven, de/activate mods, etc, normal as before. when i click to launch the game, i get the normal few seconds of loading, black screen appearing to display the game full screen, the familiar beep that i always heard just before showing the square-enix title card, then it snaps right back from black screen to the file explorer window i was just on previously.

i can still launch the game and play the unmodded version as normal through steam.

within 7th heaven, i deactivated one mod at a time and attempted to launch the game after each, with no success.

i didn't see any previous post that hit this, so i'm sorry if this is a repeat issue that has been solved and i missed the solution somewhere!

also, don't know if this is a red herring or not, but i did encounter one other issue while playing that prompted a hard restart of my laptop just before this more serious issue started happening. i was going through the mythril cave (just after chocobo-ing through the marshy area), finished chatting up the turks, and then went through the exit to the world map when the transition screen went black and stayed that way. curiously, the world map music was playiing but nothing else was responsive. i could not even ctrl+alt+del out of it. i was able to play just after this though (i never went through that exit again, just did everything up to that piont and went back out the entrance and saved on the world map there), so again, not sure if this is relevant.

thanks again for this mod! hope to be able to play it again soon  8)

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #919 on: 2015-12-23 11:35:49 »
So you have changed/updated your sound device. We really need the new config which tom was creating. This bug is realy nasty.

You need to change or re-add the sound device to the FF7_config.exe.

Btw. it might also appear when try to run the game on a TV with a HDMI cable.
« Last Edit: 2015-12-23 11:37:22 by Kaldarasha »

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #920 on: 2015-12-23 11:43:49 »
So you have changed/updated your sound device. We really need the new config which tom was creating. This bug is realy nasty.

You need to change or re-add the sound device to the FF7_config.exe.

Btw. it might also appear when try to run the game on a TV with a HDMI cable.

To do this, be sure to run the Game Converter again. It will open the correct FF7Config.exe for the registry keys to be used, in which you can then set the correct sound device.

Do NOT open FF7Config.exe from the game folder. Doing so will set the wrong registry keys.

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Re: Re: [FF7] Tifa's Final Heaven - 7th Heaven Mod Tutorial
« Reply #921 on: 2015-12-23 11:52:38 »
A suggestion: create a stickied closed topic for the releases,changelogs and tutorials (one thread for all named subjects) and a q/a thread. This great topic gets too much flooded with questions.

It's amazing how I read this just a few days ago, and wanted to do this once my days weren't so busy. Since then, we've already created nearly a full page of more questions (some of the same ones, too). 7H works beautifully, but not without its hiccups that only the experienced know what to do to fix. I realize now that the average joe user sometimes misses a step, for whatever reason, and causes an issue they don't know how to solve. We've had more questions pile up than I can answer, so obviously some minor fixes/changes need to be made for 7H to be a smoother setup for everyone.

I'm going to work on the forum setup now. This like your new UI proposal and Tom's FF7Config.exe can help make 7H an even better tool than it already is :)


EDIT: Topic is now locked. Sorry to those who still had open questions, but I have to start this new setup at some point. Please post your questions/responses with a New Topic in the 7th Heaven forum section.
« Last Edit: 2015-12-23 12:22:44 by EQ2Alyza »