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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03c)
« Reply #1875 on: 2015-09-02 19:12:32 »
Can you please upload your flevel for me?

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03c)
« Reply #1876 on: 2015-09-02 20:02:07 »
Yup, just a moment.


...And we have a link.
« Last Edit: 2015-09-02 20:18:07 by Ansem Darkseeker »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03c)
« Reply #1877 on: 2015-09-02 22:52:47 »
Thanks.  It seems the newer ts (older had source code loss) is not doing something that yours is. 

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03c)
« Reply #1878 on: 2015-09-03 00:29:39 »
edit.

It's not ts.  I think the only thing it can be is ulgp not updating the frcyo script.

edit.  It's not ulgp.  I am truly baffled.  ;D

edit.

I had to go through every single step to narrow it down.  Getting there.

final edit.

It was an option incorrectly formatted that led to the error.  It shouldn't have had that effect though, but ts is limited in what it can do thanks to the sharing of vars by the original script programmers.  So there you go.  It's funny to know that just one of the options being changed slightly can completely corrupt that field.
« Last Edit: 2015-09-03 02:24:55 by DLPB »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03c)
« Reply #1879 on: 2015-09-03 12:47:14 »
Was it this error?


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« Reply #1880 on: 2015-09-03 23:50:34 »
Was it this error?



This is another error I spotted.  I have no idea what the hell is going on there.  I'll ask Luksy.  It's possibly an original game error that was hidden originally because the numeric was further down.

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« Reply #1881 on: 2015-09-04 00:15:06 »
Yeah, it's an original game error.  They forgot to remove the numeric from window3.  They got away with it purely because it's too low in the original game to be seen in that window.

From Luksy:

Add op > windowing > numerical > 3,0,0,0

You add this to sono2 > script 1 > After close the window #3  (around line 670)
« Last Edit: 2015-09-04 03:05:00 by DLPB »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03d)
« Reply #1882 on: 2015-09-04 13:55:22 »
This is the last revision that supports the new font I made.  As such, this installer will be available for download indefinitely. From R04 onwards, The Reunion will support only the old font and graphics.  It will also re-add support for Steam with the new Menu Reconstruction.  This installer will lose all support ONE week from now (when it is finalized).  If any serious issues are found in that time, they will be fixed.  After that, they will be there forever.

The Reunion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBhvBN3lmWg&t=01m55s

READ THE README!

Download R03d
Donate HERE

The Retranslated FMV are on the first post and need to be manually placed in your movie folder.


The best way to install The Reunion (so that you can reinstall) is to install all non-conflicting mods FIRST, starting with clean files. From there, place the correct files (noted in the Readme) into a new folder "Backup-Reunion", inside the game root. Each time The Reunion is installed, it will then use those files, saving you the need to mess about each time.


Any and all issues should be reported.  Before you report a bug / issue, please check the Bugtracker, found HERE

Changes:

Code: [Select]
LATEST CHANGES (R03d)

Installer
04-Sep-2015

1. Final installer for the new font / menu overhaul
2. This release only supports 1998 English game
3. Menu Overhaul is forced

Beacause
04-Sep-2015

1. Latest updates to localization
2. Updates to American text
3. {CLOUD} tag was missing from Wallmarket gym
4. Numeric display bug at Chocobo Farm fixed

Menu Overhaul
04-Sep-2015

1. Serious bug with main menu fixed
2. Missing controller button icons in certain maps fixed

60fps Battles

None
         
Minigame Update
04-Sep-2015

1. Snowboard frame-based timer updated

Model Overhaul

None

Memory Patches
04-Sep-2015

1. Faster Summon / Supernova
2. Condor speed

Other

None


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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03d)
« Reply #1883 on: 2015-09-04 14:47:18 »
Why drop the new font and graphics of the menu? They look so sharp! Did I miss something?

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03d)
« Reply #1884 on: 2015-09-04 15:57:01 »
mds7plr1

Quote
“If things get too
  hairy,we’ll disappear.”

or

Quote
“If things get too
  hairy,we’ll scamper.”

Which is the final version?
« Last Edit: 2015-09-04 17:42:37 by Green_goblin »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03d)
« Reply #1885 on: 2015-09-04 19:16:38 »
Fudge sickles... Even with this new one, the game crashes on start up.  The eff is going on?

Alright, so I manage to uninstall the Reunion I was using, that being the RO3B, and then tried this. It all installs as it should then the game just crashes when I run it from 7th Heaven.  Hmm.. Tried it normally, same thing.
« Last Edit: 2015-09-04 19:21:03 by Sora123masta »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03d)
« Reply #1886 on: 2015-09-04 19:59:04 »
Fudge sickles... Even with this new one, the game crashes on start up.  The eff is going on?

Alright, so I manage to uninstall the Reunion I was using, that being the RO3B, and then tried this. It all installs as it should then the game just crashes when I run it from 7th Heaven.  Hmm.. Tried it normally, same thing.

7th Heaven must be doing something to the files?  I have no clue why that would be.  Can you check an install from clean files (check installer, it tells you which files.  Place them into a folder called Backup-Reunion in the game root.

“If things get too
  hairy,we’ll disappear.”

That one is the new.  Tbh, I am not even sure why the Japanese game has that line.  I mean the pillar may be collapsing and they're saying "IF" it gets hairy.  Well... no shit.  But how far do you think you'll get when the whole upper plate falls on you?  It doesn't make much sense.   Unless it's been translated slightly screwy, but I doubt it.

@hell

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14914.msg231613#msg231613




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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03d)
« Reply #1887 on: 2015-09-04 20:05:10 »
Fudge sickles... Even with this new one, the game crashes on start up.  The eff is going on?

Alright, so I manage to uninstall the Reunion I was using, that being the RO3B, and then tried this. It all installs as it should then the game just crashes when I run it from 7th Heaven.  Hmm.. Tried it normally, same thing.

List the mods you do use. Try first to replace the flevel.lgp with the original one. If that doesn't help go on with the minigames.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03d)
« Reply #1888 on: 2015-09-04 20:13:38 »
List the mods you do use. Try first to replace the flevel.lgp with the original one. If that doesn't help go on with the minigames.

Alright, I use your CHAOS subscription. The base at the bottom, animations at the top. Cloud stuff. Barret test.. Battle models for the characters, enemies and weapons. Same with field models and world models. Battle , world and field textures. Gameplay tweaks, like the cheats that give the save anywhere thing. Music media plus my own custom tracks.  Menu backgrounds, menu overhaul. And, all three minigames.

Edit, I think I found the issue.  I had the retranslation on, some coloring and the script fixes.  The script fixes were the issue. xD   Even when I tried replacing with the original Flevel.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03d)
« Reply #1889 on: 2015-09-04 20:40:13 »
“If things get too
  hairy,we’ll disappear.”


tbh that doesn't work well.  Let's just say

"we’ll be out of here"

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03d)
« Reply #1890 on: 2015-09-06 08:57:52 »
@DLPB

I have installed the last built and checked the flevel.lgp before and after. And 'Ancnt1' is definitely created by your installer. With the information from Sora123masta it seems to be generated by the script fixes. I assume that the script fixes for 'ancnt1' do not even work because they are in 'Ancnt1'.(?)

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« Reply #1891 on: 2015-09-06 12:52:09 »
I'll check this out, but it will be ulgp's doing if so. 

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« Reply #1892 on: 2015-09-06 13:31:47 »
Strange, I used ulgp and the file disappeared. But with Highwind I could see that it is there. I assume because windows isn't cap sensitive it has simply erased Ancnt1.

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« Reply #1893 on: 2015-09-06 16:28:05 »
Hm, that is strange.  If it's a possible issue with windows then what the duck? xD   Glad I brought this to the attention, since C gave me the same issues. But, B did not.

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« Reply #1894 on: 2015-09-07 02:28:50 »
Strange, I used ulgp and the file disappeared. But with Highwind I could see that it is there. I assume because windows isn't cap sensitive it has simply erased Ancnt1.

I am not sure how you are getting that file in there but it isn't Reunion doing it.  ulgp adds the files all lower case, and the original flevel has lower case files.  You must be using an unclean flevel or some other mod?

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« Reply #1895 on: 2015-09-07 13:48:46 »
Here is the before and after Reunion patch. I used highwind, but don't worry I dont use it for unpacking lgps I only use it if I want to look in a file.

Before, clean file (from the re-release but used with the old installment):


After the patch:

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« Reply #1896 on: 2015-09-07 14:26:34 »
It doesn't do that for me.  I have a clean file afterwards without any capital letter names.  I'm not sure how that could happen.

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« Reply #1897 on: 2015-09-08 01:36:51 »
"Lit. Flame [Here goes: Final Fantasy (I think as
far back as the first game) uses a very
inconsistent naming scheme for Properties.
The Japanese deliberately avoids the use of
'Fire' and 'Ice'.  In fact, it also avoids 'Air',
opting instead for 'Wind'. The problem is
Flame, Cold, Wind, and Water do not go well
together in English. It has been
noted that they don't even go well together
in the Japanese games. For this reason, I have
used Fire, Ice, Water, and Wind, like the
official English releases do. I am still not
happy with this, given that Wind is not
consistent.]"

A note about the change from Flame/Cold to  Fire/Ice.

I'd go Flame Frost like BOF3, but that still leaves Water.  So it's a mess that the Japanese games are responsible for.


Also, one small correction: chrin_2

Leno
“The Ancient’s gettin’ away!
  Fire! Fire! {PAUSE 30}Cease fire.”
------------------------------
Leno
“Think we got him?
  Well,he shouldn’t have resisted.”

I have changed to this since I can't see it being very consistent that Leno would be aiming to kill the last Ancient.  I think the scene is portraying Cloud being attacked.
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« Reply #1898 on: 2015-09-08 13:45:45 »
I have changed to this since I can't see it being very consistent that Leno would be aiming to kill the last Ancient.  I think the scene is portraying Cloud being attacked.

Strangely enough, I always got the impression that he goofed up and forgot that he wasn't meant to harm her. :P I don't know how that would work with the whole "professional Turk" thing though.

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« Reply #1899 on: 2015-09-08 14:21:32 »
It's one of those things that is difficult, especially if the context of the scene isn't clear.  Japanese can be so damn ambiguous.  But I'll have Luksy look at it.  He'll come back and say "It could be them or him..."