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Title: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-19 00:41:06
Hate this guy. >:(
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: sl1982 on 2010-05-19 00:51:01
Good to know
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ultima espio on 2010-05-19 01:04:52
Dont be so mean, she has feelings you know :(
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: obesebear on 2010-05-19 01:49:15
So glad this topic was created.   I'm ][ this close to ignoring Completely Unrelated from now on.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-19 01:50:15
Dont be so mean, she has feelings you know :(
Meh, she's an offense to all humans who really have feelings. Awesome humans like me (there is no damned turned up nose face :() (also goddamn brackets ending in a emote.)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: therage800 on 2010-05-19 03:18:55
This whole thread is confusing.

Who is Justin Bieber?
Is he happy or homosexual?
Who is ScottMcTony and ultima espio referring to when they say, "She"?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ultima espio on 2010-05-19 12:03:55
This whole thread is confusing.

Who is Justin Bieber?
Is he happy or homosexual?
Who is ScottMcTony and ultima espio referring to when they say, "She"?

Justin Bieber is an American singer yeah

Hes only 16, but he sounds like hes 10 or younger, which is why some people call him a she, coz he sounds like a little girl :P
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: NFITC1 on 2010-05-19 14:11:19
He's not homosexual, though. He's had several girlfriends.

Just a very feminine look and voice.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2010-05-19 16:52:36
He's not homosexual, though. He's had several girlfriends.

Just a very feminine look and voice.

He's like 12 he doesn't even know what a girl is, well, unless he looks in the mirror :D.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-19 18:24:55
The biggest thing I hate is when someone compares me to him and says I should treat girls like this guy. If I do that I'll talk to girls like a girl.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: therage800 on 2010-05-19 18:30:36
This whole thread is confusing.

Who is Justin Bieber?
Is he happy or homosexual?
Who is ScottMcTony and ultima espio referring to when they say, "She"?
What country are you from?? I assume your not from the Unite States?? I am not but in my country some kids really likes her but when I look at her she looks like a "she".
PS-Bieber is a he they only called him a she to prove he's gay. ;)

Actually I am from the US. But I don't watch MTV, I don't talk to kids, and I don't pay attention to whats popular. If music is good, I'll find it. But, anyway, thanks for answering; I think I got the idea. I'll steer clear of this Bieber he/she.  :lol:
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: NFITC1 on 2010-05-19 18:43:09
He's not homosexual, though. He's had several girlfriends.

Just a very feminine look and voice.

He's like 12 he doesn't even know what a girl is, well, unless he looks in the mirror :D.

Noooo..... he's 16.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-19 18:45:17
Well Yeah I think he's 16 too my sister is a HUGE fan.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: idl12 on 2010-05-19 22:01:58
Took me a while to figure out he was a she... one day when we were talking about which female singer we would sleep with I said"definitely that girl from that "first love" song,, her voice is hot!!."  I was not informed of the folly of my words until a few days later after I noticed everyone was watching me funny....
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-19 22:13:39
He looks and sounds 9, and his songs sound like they were written by an especially dim 9 year old, how the hell is he 16? His dad must be some manner of evil sorcerer.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-19 22:24:07
So glad this topic was created.   I'm ][ this close to ignoring Completely Unrelated from now on.

Same here lol.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-19 22:32:00
So glad this topic was created.   I'm ][ this close to ignoring Completely Unrelated from now on.

Same here lol.
remove
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2010-05-19 23:17:16
Why so serious?

If you don't like what you see, ignore it.
Geez...

EDIT: (Addressing the dudes who are insulting poor Justin.)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DragRopes on 2010-05-20 01:08:58
Why so serious?

If you don't like what you see, ignore it.
Geez...

Quite simply, because it's fun
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-20 02:03:28
Yeah, I can either enjoy his existence (or at least balance it out) by cracking jokes, or I can be silently annoyed. The former quite obviously has a more utility. I should not have to explain criticism in this manner.
On a side note, as long as we're sort of talking about a musician, technically speaking, I guess, if anyone here is a fan of Meshuggah, Devin Townsend, or Cynic, instant new best friend hugs/bumsexes.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Prince Lex on 2010-05-20 14:24:22
I find this thread offensive.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2010-05-20 15:41:55
Yeah, so do I.  So uncorroborated and baseless.  I mean, this...

Well all humans in the world should know that the name "Justin Bieber" is another term for gay, lesbian or homosexual. :evil:

Kids, don't take anything from anyone who honestly believes that Zack is superior to Sephiroth...
Just don't :P

But on a more relevant note, why do celebrities always get such snobbish treatment with or without merit?  Why do humans always have to promote someone to idol status, then bring down that same person?  Is it an inferiority complex?  Or is it merely the need to insult someone who everyone knows so that you can have your own destructive in-group of people who agree with you?

Not to troll, but the concept of fame bothers me in that it always seems to come at the price of getting this kind of reception from some people.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-20 16:06:25
I didn't mean to offend anyone. So sorry, probably should have kept this to myself. And yeah I only made my description like that cause I can't think of anything. I'll delete that post then..
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2010-05-20 16:11:30
But don't worry about your description.  Opinions on fictional characters, however random or justified, however offensive or neutral, however whatever, are perfectly fine to voice in the open. ;)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-20 16:34:15
Ok then. There's no way to delete this thread so sorry bout that. I'll just delete my posts which are very offensive. I'll not be doing it again. Can this thread be locked now??
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ultima espio on 2010-05-20 18:02:46
No, you can delete it, there is an option somewhere on here. Trust me, I've deleted plenty of threads here :P
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-20 18:11:29
Yeah, so do I.  So uncorroborated and baseless.  I mean, this...

Well all humans in the world should know that the name "Justin Bieber" is another term for gay, lesbian or homosexual. :evil:

Kids, don't take anything from anyone who honestly believes that Zack is superior to Sephiroth...
Just don't :P

But on a more relevant note, why do celebrities always get such snobbish treatment with or without merit?  Why do humans always have to promote someone to idol status, then bring down that same person?  Is it an inferiority complex?  Or is it merely the need to insult someone who everyone knows so that you can have your own destructive in-group of people who agree with you?

Not to troll, but the concept of fame bothers me in that it always seems to come at the price of getting this kind of reception from some people.

Why do you hate the expression of opinions on art? Do you hate FREE SPEECH?

Much more importantly, nikfrozty, why do you hate gay people? YOU HOMOPHOBIC MONSTER.

So yeah what am I doing?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: sl1982 on 2010-05-20 19:51:14
Yeah, so do I.  So uncorroborated and baseless.  I mean, this...

Well all humans in the world should know that the name "Justin Bieber" is another term for gay, lesbian or homosexual. :evil:

Kids, don't take anything from anyone who honestly believes that Zack is superior to Sephiroth...
Just don't :P

But on a more relevant note, why do celebrities always get such snobbish treatment with or without merit?  Why do humans always have to promote someone to idol status, then bring down that same person?  Is it an inferiority complex?  Or is it merely the need to insult someone who everyone knows so that you can have your own destructive in-group of people who agree with you?

Not to troll, but the concept of fame bothers me in that it always seems to come at the price of getting this kind of reception from some people.

Why do you hate the expression of opinions on art? Do you hate FREE SPEECH?

Much more importantly, nikfrozty, why do you hate gay people? YOU HOMOPHOBIC MONSTER.

So yeah what am I doing?

Being an ass?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is [s]Gay[/s] Pretty Lame
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-20 19:59:29
A bit of that yeah but I severely doubt I worsened anyones day so it's all good. Really though I don't suppose this is quite the place to talk about things we hate, although what The Seer of Shadows said really did bother me. He seems to take issue with the whole idea of negative criticism in any context.
Oh and something about how using gay to mean bad is offensive etc etc.
(aww strikethrough doesn't work in a post title?)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Bosola on 2010-05-20 20:02:09
Great thread!!!!???!!!?!!!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is [s]Gay[/s] Pretty Lame
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2010-05-20 22:55:24
A bit of that yeah but I severely doubt I worsened anyones day so it's all good. Really though I don't suppose this is quite the place to talk about things we hate, although what The Seer of Shadows said really did bother me. He seems to take issue with the whole idea of negative criticism in any context.
Oh and something about how using gay to mean bad is offensive etc etc.
(aww strikethrough doesn't work in a post title?)

Doesn't look like it.

What bothers me about this thread is the fact that Justin Bieber is a 16-year old male who genetically looks and sounds younger.  Probably the main reason why he is popular is that he is just so adorable.  What kind of base is that for negative criticism?  What's he going to do, try and grow older faster?  It's like someone declaring you gay because you have a major acne problem.  Why insult Justin for what he naturally is?  He still has the right to spend his life doing what he wants to do.  Stop exploiting free speech and just leave him alone :(

"Negative criticism is fine, destructive criticism is not" is basically what I'm trying to say.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-20 23:44:54
Stop bashing him. If you think he's gay then just don't listen to him or don't pay attention to him.

I could post a thread about how I think you're gay and what would that solve? Nothing.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is [s]Gay[/s] Pretty Lame
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-21 01:01:34
A bit of that yeah but I severely doubt I worsened anyones day so it's all good. Really though I don't suppose this is quite the place to talk about things we hate, although what The Seer of Shadows said really did bother me. He seems to take issue with the whole idea of negative criticism in any context.
Oh and something about how using gay to mean bad is offensive etc etc.
(aww strikethrough doesn't work in a post title?)

Doesn't look like it.

What bothers me about this thread is the fact that Justin Bieber is a 16-year old male who genetically looks and sounds younger.  Probably the main reason why he is popular is that he is just so adorable.  What kind of base is that for negative criticism?  What's he going to do, try and grow older faster?  It's like someone declaring you gay because you have a major acne problem.  Why insult Justin for what he naturally is?  He still has the right to spend his life doing what he wants to do.  Stop exploiting free speech and just leave him alone :(

"Negative criticism is fine, destructive criticism is not" is basically what I'm trying to say.
He's never gonna see it, so all I can do is make fun of him (or, more specifically, his incredibly bland music itself, and his fans, not him as a person, if that helps), because, as I said, there's a lot more utility in that than in being silently annoyed. And, he won't be offended, and I don't mind offending fans if they really care that I hate something they so shallowly adore. The same applies to Lady GaGa, Ke$ha, and everything else sillybuns.
And hey how did you know I had a major acne problem? Are you stalking me?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2010-05-21 02:12:13
And hey how did you know I had a major acne problem? Are you stalking me?

I'm The Seer of Shadows.  I see many things I shouldn't be able to :o :o

I have to say, "insulting people is fine because they never find out" was once one of my philosophies.  But you can never predict the ramifications of what you say or do.  What you said here might lead to someone else saying something else elsewhere, which might, by some series of events, just find its way to the one you insulted.

But that's getting very anal - think about it that way and we might as well just never say anything at all.

How about putting it this way: criticize his music, fine.  Criticize his choreography, fine.  Criticize his haircut, fine.  Criticize the behavior of his fans, fine.  They're all things that can be amended, so any criticism there would not be purely destructive.  Just try to avoid attacking him for what he is, because there isn't much he can do about it.  No fruitfulness in being offensive, whether or not it reaches the ears of anyone it might offend.

I realize I may have come across as being a bit extreme in this thread... sorry about that.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Jaitsu on 2010-05-21 16:56:59
everyone take the last line of the last post from the seer and calm the hell down, seriousely, we've all got likes and dislikes (by the way, using the free speech arguement won't work to well, as free speech is different in different countries)

lets all just agree that he's weird, and get back to what we all should love doing.... LISTENING TO DISTURBED :P

Asylum's out in august by the way
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: sl1982 on 2010-05-21 17:05:45
everyone take the last line of the last post from the seer and calm the hell down, seriousely, we've all got likes and dislikes (by the way, using the free speech arguement won't work to well, as free speech is different in different countries)

lets all just agree that he's weird, and get back to what we all should love doing.... LISTENING TO DISTURBED :P

Asylum's out in august by the way

I know, I'm getting excited.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Jaitsu on 2010-05-21 17:11:47
everyone take the last line of the last post from the seer and calm the hell down, seriousely, we've all got likes and dislikes (by the way, using the free speech arguement won't work to well, as free speech is different in different countries)

lets all just agree that he's weird, and get back to what we all should love doing.... LISTENING TO DISTURBED :P

Asylum's out in august by the way

I know, I'm getting excited.

what song announced so far do you wanna hear the most?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: sl1982 on 2010-05-21 17:24:13
Nothing in particular. To be honest i just found out a few days ago. Have they released any singles yet?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: therage800 on 2010-05-22 04:52:08
everyone take the last line of the last post from the seer and calm the hell down, seriousely, we've all got likes and dislikes (by the way, using the free speech arguement won't work to well, as free speech is different in different countries)

lets all just agree that he's weird, and get back to what we all should love doing.... LISTENING TO DISTURBED :P

Asylum's out in august by the way

I know, I'm getting excited.

what song announced so far do you wanna hear the most?

The Sickness. Oh wait, er, new album?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is [s]Gay[/s] Pretty Lame
Post by: Prince Lex on 2010-05-23 16:01:52
He seems to take issue with the whole idea of negative criticism in any context.

I think you've exaggerated here.

Oh and something about how using gay to mean bad is offensive etc etc.
(aww strikethrough doesn't work in a post title?)

You're clearly not taking this seriously. Which is fine, it is the internet after all - a person shouldn't really expect to come on to the board he's known for ten years without experiencing some homophobic comments disguised as playground talk.

I'm aware that half of this community nowadays could probably care less, but comments like "Justin Bieber is gay" are detrimental to the integrity of this place. Not to mention offensive to me - personally. I don't really give a strawberries what anyone thinks about gay people in general, and I'm also aware that the author of this thread probably meant no harm, but the problem lies with throwing words like "gay" around negatively. Theres f.uck all wrong with being gay, and I'm sick and tired of having to argue with people to get them to have a bit of tolerance about how other people might feel.

So I guess now I'm not only a grammar nazi, but a political-correctness nazi too.

This post may seem a bit aggressive, but this is around the fifth time I've had to post about homophobia on this forum over the years, and I am very very very tired of it.

And nikfrozty, thank you for apologising. This is the completely unrelated board - you can say whatever the hell you want about Justin Bieber in my opinion, just watch the terms you use, OK?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-23 16:23:43
Ok then. Really sorry and I don't blame some people here who now hates my name nikfrozty. Maybe they are fans or something. Again I apologize and fine won't start anything like this again.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Jaitsu on 2010-05-23 17:27:08
everyone take the last line of the last post from the seer and calm the hell down, seriousely, we've all got likes and dislikes (by the way, using the free speech arguement won't work to well, as free speech is different in different countries)

lets all just agree that he's weird, and get back to what we all should love doing.... LISTENING TO DISTURBED :P

Asylum's out in august by the way

I know, I'm getting excited.

what song announced so far do you wanna hear the most?

The Sickness. Oh wait, er, new album?

there new album, Asylum, releases this august, i personally want to hear serpentine the most
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-23 18:06:58
everyone take the last line of the last post from the seer and calm the hell down, seriousely, we've all got likes and dislikes (by the way, using the free speech arguement won't work to well, as free speech is different in different countries)

lets all just agree that he's weird, and get back to what we all should love doing.... LISTENING TO DISTURBED :P

Asylum's out in august by the way

I know, I'm getting excited.

what song announced so far do you wanna hear the most?

The Sickness. Oh wait, er, new album?

there new album, Asylum, releases this august, i personally want to hear serpentine the most

Disturbed sucks.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-23 18:19:19
Yeah really guys gEEZE. Listen guys I am the ultimate musical authority in the universe and right now I am going to tell you all how it is.
Bands that do not suck:
Meshuggah, Tool, Opeth, Devin Townsend/SYL, Cynic, Dillinger Escape Plan, Noisia, Spor, Pendulum, Excision, Textures, The Faceless, Battles, King Crimson, Periphery(past), B-Complex.
Bands that suck:
Every other band except bands that I forgot about.

And that's just the way it's gotta be.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2010-05-23 23:09:45
Yeah really guys gEEZE. Listen guys I am the ultimate musical authority in the universe and right now I am going to tell you all how it is.
Bands that do not suck:
Meshuggah, Tool, Opeth, Devin Townsend/SYL, Cynic, Dillinger Escape Plan, Noisia, Spor, Pendulum, Excision, Textures, The Faceless, Battles, King Crimson, Periphery(past), B-Complex.
Bands that suck:
Every other band except bands that I forgot about.

And that's just the way it's gotta be.

Amen, brother!
(Although I'm not that much of a music enthusiast, so I don't know what half of those bands are...)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Jaitsu on 2010-05-23 23:10:59
everyone take the last line of the last post from the seer and calm the hell down, seriousely, we've all got likes and dislikes (by the way, using the free speech arguement won't work to well, as free speech is different in different countries)

lets all just agree that he's weird, and get back to what we all should love doing.... LISTENING TO DISTURBED :P

Asylum's out in august by the way

I know, I'm getting excited.

what song announced so far do you wanna hear the most?

The Sickness. Oh wait, er, new album?

there new album, Asylum, releases this august, i personally want to hear serpentine the most

Disturbed sucks.

ok, now im absolutely sure you got a beef with me
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-23 23:33:50
Yeah really guys gEEZE. Listen guys I am the ultimate musical authority in the universe and right now I am going to tell you all how it is.
Bands that do not suck:
Meshuggah, Tool, Opeth, Devin Townsend/SYL, Cynic, Dillinger Escape Plan, Noisia, Spor, Pendulum, Excision, Textures, The Faceless, Battles, King Crimson, Periphery(past), B-Complex.
Bands that suck:
Every other band except bands that I forgot about.

And that's just the way it's gotta be.

Amen, brother!
(Although I'm not that much of a music enthusiast, so I don't know what half of those bands are...)
Half? That's like 30% more than most people I meet.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: idl12 on 2010-05-24 00:05:45

Quote
Disturbed sucks.

Alright dude, I hope you don't take that argument any further, even though I'm more into rap, disturbed, Linkin Park, Slipknot, Cradle of filth are the few Rockbands who I think actually "Rock" but anyways, you probably meant that in the most non-offensive way possible so I'll let it slide. Then again, I guess we're all entitled to our own opinions so you probably have your reasons, heck if I named some of the artists I listen to, a lot of people would probably disagree the same way. ;D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-24 00:14:49
Linkin Park
This is worse than Bieber. This is, in fact, worse than Miley Cyrus. Oh yes we've got a real problem indeed.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: idl12 on 2010-05-24 00:37:00
Linkin Park
This is worse than Bieber. This is, in fact, worse than Miley Cyrus. Oh yes we've got a real problem indeed.

I'm talking about before New Divide, they suck now, I'm only interested in there old jams like in the end and all the songs that had a kind of rap feel to it.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-24 00:49:55
They were equally bad then.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: halkun on 2010-05-24 00:52:18
I don't think she's that bad... Here watch this video :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIr8-f2OWhs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIr8-f2OWhs)

Are we taking about the same person?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: idl12 on 2010-05-24 00:58:35
They were equally bad then.

Like I said, I'm more into rap so that's why mostly their older songs appeal to me the only serious bands I like are the ones I mentioned earlier, Someone who is really into the stuff will most-likely agree with you. ;D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-24 01:30:15
Problem: Solved.
If you happen to like cLOUDDEAD or Dub FX (not rap exactly but a lot closer than anything else I listen to) then, um, Problem: Double-Solved.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: idl12 on 2010-05-24 02:22:20
Problem: Solved.
If you happen to like cLOUDDEAD or Dub FX (not rap exactly but a lot closer than anything else I listen to) then, um, Problem: Double-Solved.

Damn... I gotta admit, that dub fx guy is pretty good, can't say the same for those clLOUDEAD guys though, I'm more a fan of guys like Eminem(probably the only one I actually buy the albums for) and 50cent(yeah, I know), other than that, just about eveybody from d12, usually things similar to their style and by that I mean anything with random violence involved, hence the reason I listen to guys like disturbed ..hehe but I really like dub fx, it's a shame I never actually heard about him before.  :-D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: therage800 on 2010-05-24 04:31:02
Stop bashing him. If you think he's gay then just don't listen to him or don't pay attention to him.

I could post a thread about how I think you're gay and what would that solve? Nothing.


Disturbed sucks.

I'm not a Disturbed fan so don't think I'm offended but isn't that a bit hypocritical?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: halkun on 2010-05-24 04:37:13
DROPPPING PLATES!!!!!!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-24 04:49:42
Stop bashing him. If you think he's gay then just don't listen to him or don't pay attention to him.

I could post a thread about how I think you're gay and what would that solve? Nothing.


Disturbed sucks.

I'm not a Disturbed fan so don't think I'm offended but isn't that a bit hypocritical?

Maybe he really just meant don't call things "gay" like that? Doesn't sound like he did though.. yeah, damn that dirty hypocrite!
Suddenly everyone reading this feels compelled to click the following link for it is a link of pure truth and glory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOleLD4CUbc
Because see I am plugging my taste in music because this thread is just so pointless anyway.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: therage800 on 2010-05-24 04:55:17
Stop bashing him. If you think he's gay then just don't listen to him or don't pay attention to him.

I could post a thread about how I think you're gay and what would that solve? Nothing.


Disturbed sucks.

I'm not a Disturbed fan so don't think I'm offended but isn't that a bit hypocritical?

Maybe he really just meant don't call things "gay" like that? Doesn't sound like he did though.. yeah, damn that dirty hypocrite!

No it doesn't. He said "Stop bashing him"; the word bashing has nothing to do with calling someone gay.


On another note, I agree with Prince Lex, people need to stop using the word gay in a negative context.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is [s]Gay[/s] Pretty Lame
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-24 05:05:02
Oh and something about how using gay to mean bad is offensive etc etc.
(aww strikethrough doesn't work in a post title?)

You're clearly not taking this seriously. Which is fine, it is the internet after all - a person shouldn't really expect to come on to the board he's known for ten years without experiencing some homophobic comments disguised as playground talk.

I'm aware that half of this community nowadays could probably care less, but comments like "Justin Bieber is gay" are detrimental to the integrity of this place. Not to mention offensive to me - personally. I don't really give a sh*t what anyone thinks about gay people in general, and I'm also aware that the author of this thread probably meant no harm, but the problem lies with throwing words like "gay" around negatively. Theres f.uck all wrong with being gay, and I'm sick and tired of having to argue with people to get them to have a bit of tolerance about how other people might feel.

So I guess now I'm not only a grammar nazi, but a political-correctness nazi too.

This post may seem a bit aggressive, but this is around the fifth time I've had to post about homophobia on this forum over the years, and I am very very very tired of it.

And nikfrozty, thank you for apologising. This is the completely unrelated board - you can say whatever the hell you want about Justin Bieber in my opinion, just watch the terms you use, OK?
Hey man I agree I just, really could not be bothered forming that argument while posting from school, in class. The thing I usually see is that, by now, when gay is used that way, there usually isn't any conscious link to homosexuality at all. The problem is, gay is still very much coupled to homosexuality, enough that everyone reading or hearing at least briefly considers is, and it sort of, I guess, linguistically enables homophobias continued existence.
Now, in the similar case of fag, although it could be said to do the same, I take a different opinion about how that one should be approached. I think fag is probably in such wide use in generic contexts by my generation, and starting to come decoupled from any homophobic contexts enough that any assumption of bad faith is likely to just lengthen the period before it simply becomes a shift of word usage and stops being homophobic.
Of course I could be wrong, and while it is a pretty vast reservoir of anecdotes in this case, it is still being anecdotal.

@therage800: Yeah I know that I started my previous post that way for reasons that are already unknown to me.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Jaitsu on 2010-05-25 02:46:58

The thing I treasure most in life cannot be taken away
There will never be a reason why I will surrender to your advice
To change myself, I'd rather die
Though they will not understand
I won't make the greatest sacrifice
You can't predict where the outcome lies
You'll never take me alive


im Alive- Disturbed

if you tell me that isn't awesome, im gonna send you to a REAL asylum :P
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Prince Lex on 2010-05-25 11:36:40
@ScottMcTony

I see what you mean. I don't actually know where you're from, but here in the UK I use fag to describe cigarettes, but actually think that "faggot" is the most offensive term you can call someone. Use of this word depends on where you're from - it's in much wider use as an insult in NA than it is here. The word faggot is derived from the French "faggeaux" which was the kindling used to burn witches at the stake - so when you call someone a faggot you really mean "I think you should burn". That's where the word comes from.

But just ignore my lecturey ramblings now, I was having a bad day and having now watched the last ever episode of Lost, feel the need to drown my sorrows in alcohol.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2010-05-25 12:45:47
So "faggot", which means "you should burn", has evolved to mean "male homosexual"?  Wow, that's kind of scary...

I would argue that calling someone "gay" is a form of bashing.  I don't mean to be disrespectful to homosexuals, but challenging someone's sexuality is a severe insult (at least, in the society I live in).

Though ironically, there's a big difference between using it passively and using it seriously.  Sometimes, if I playfully diss a friend of mine, he might laugh along and make his comeback by calling me "gay".  He had a reason for it and doesn't really mean it at all to begin with - that's fine.  But if someone randomly called me gay for absolutely no discernible reason at all, I'd make a mental note of that person >:(

Having said that, I am against the use of that particular word as an insult, which is why I avoid it myself (my variation is "screw you", something I also tend to avoid typing because it looks a lot more confrontational in writing than it sounds when I say it :-X).  However, I think that, with so many people using it as an insult these days, the only way it'll ever stop is if it is naturally phased out over time.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-25 15:30:44
Some of my friends tell my other friends gay as a joke which means happy. The word gay is used as a compliment, Wow!!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: fear on 2010-05-25 16:47:39
>.>  ... <.< 

*throws fuel on fire*

http://www.youtube.com/v/9theobo5XeM

*walks away*
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: obesebear on 2010-05-25 17:00:50
psssst
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251889 (http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251889)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ff7rules on 2010-05-25 18:54:16
Can't stand the amercian prick he looks about 12 and Im damn sure judging from his voice hes not even hit pubity yet! I heard him on Radio one the other day so full of himself.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-25 19:53:11
everyone take the last line of the last post from the seer and calm the hell down, seriousely, we've all got likes and dislikes (by the way, using the free speech arguement won't work to well, as free speech is different in different countries)

lets all just agree that he's weird, and get back to what we all should love doing.... LISTENING TO DISTURBED :P

Asylum's out in august by the way

I know, I'm getting excited.

what song announced so far do you wanna hear the most?

The Sickness. Oh wait, er, new album?

there new album, Asylum, releases this august, i personally want to hear serpentine the most

Disturbed sucks.

ok, now im absolutely sure you got a beef with me

Not really I just don't like them. I personally think they suck. It's an opinion.


Stop bashing him. If you think he's gay then just don't listen to him or don't pay attention to him.

I could post a thread about how I think you're gay and what would that solve? Nothing.


Disturbed sucks.

I'm not a Disturbed fan so don't think I'm offended but isn't that a bit hypocritical?

Ehh maybe. Not sure.

He was calling Justin Beiber gay, but I said Disturbed sucks. One is a false statement (or slander?) while the other is an opinion.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: therage800 on 2010-05-25 20:27:39
everyone take the last line of the last post from the seer and calm the hell down, seriousely, we've all got likes and dislikes (by the way, using the free speech arguement won't work to well, as free speech is different in different countries)

lets all just agree that he's weird, and get back to what we all should love doing.... LISTENING TO DISTURBED :P

Asylum's out in august by the way

I know, I'm getting excited.

what song announced so far do you wanna hear the most?

The Sickness. Oh wait, er, new album?

there new album, Asylum, releases this august, i personally want to hear serpentine the most

Disturbed sucks.

ok, now im absolutely sure you got a beef with me

Not really I just don't like them. I personally think they suck. It's an opinion.


Stop bashing him. If you think he's gay then just don't listen to him or don't pay attention to him.

I could post a thread about how I think you're gay and what would that solve? Nothing.


Disturbed sucks.

I'm not a Disturbed fan so don't think I'm offended but isn't that a bit hypocritical?

Ehh maybe. Not sure.

He was calling Justin Beiber gay, but I said Disturbed sucks. One is a false statement (or slander?) while the other is an opinion.

"Disturbed sucks" is not an opinion; it's stated as fact. "I think Disturbed sucks" or "In my opinion (or IMHO) Disturbed sucks" is an acceptable opinion.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-25 20:42:32
Well I meant it to be an opinion. However, the thread title states "Justin Beiber is Gay" which is saying that this is a proven fact, which it is not.

Let me fix this... I THINK Disturbed sucks.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: therage800 on 2010-05-25 22:14:53
Oh, I agree. The thread title is also wrong. I'm not picking sides here. But now I must ask, what is it that you thing Disturbed sucks? (Notice I said what; not why)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: obesebear on 2010-05-26 02:28:11
<-----lost faith in humanity
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: fear on 2010-05-26 03:27:41
*listens to Disturbed - The night*... you think they suck.. i think their better then most of the crap out nowadays ;P
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: jeffdamann on 2010-05-26 04:59:51
I think justin beiber AND disturbed suck lol.( I did like disturbed a LOT when I was like....16 lol)

All I hear is disturbed and justin beiber, how about ronnie james dio!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-26 08:07:25
Ronnie James Dio?? Who is that??
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-26 15:49:45
Ronnie James Dio?? Who is that??
You best be trollin'. Actually, I don't care that much, but still, who the hell doesn't know who Dio is?


The thing I treasure most in life cannot be taken away
There will never be a reason why I will surrender to your advice
To change myself, I'd rather die
Though they will not understand
I won't make the greatest sacrifice
You can't predict where the outcome lies
You'll never take me alive


im Alive- Disturbed

if you tell me that isn't awesome, im gonna send you to a REAL asylum :P

Seems pretty much standard pseudo-deep meaninglessness to me. My bigger problem with Disturbed is the very derivative music. Not pop bad, but far worse than anything I could actively listen to. But I dunno maybe you don't even judge music in that manner.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-26 16:27:04
Well music here is about gangsta rhymin and I don't know much about other music. I googled him and he's a rocker so now I know.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Jaitsu on 2010-05-26 19:51:05
almost every song disturbed has with a few exceptions, has a deeper meaning, and unlike some other rockbands, ther not anti-womanists, listent ot he song facade and you'll see what i mean
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2010-05-26 22:19:40
Ronnie James Dio?? Who is that??
You best be trollin'. Actually, I don't care that much, but still, who the hell doesn't know who Dio is?

I don't either ;D
Who is he?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DarkFang on 2010-05-26 22:31:55
Ronnie James Dio?? Who is that??
You best be trollin'. Actually, I don't care that much, but still, who the hell doesn't know who Dio is?

I don't either ;D
Who is he?

Same here.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: sl1982 on 2010-05-26 22:33:22
*sighs*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64coD-rx9sk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64coD-rx9sk)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2010-05-26 23:52:11
That was interesting.

I just Wikipedia-ed him.  It seems that he died just eleven days ago...
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-27 00:11:12
(http://mittyzx.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/son_i_am_disappoint.gif)

That goes for the rest of you too. I mean sure, when I heard about his death my first thought was "pwned", but at least I knew who he was.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: sl1982 on 2010-05-27 00:16:52
I knew who he was
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: ScottMcTony on 2010-05-27 00:27:16
The rest of you except you.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Bosola on 2010-05-27 00:40:28
Is this thread still alive? Christ.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: The Seer of Shadows on 2010-05-27 02:13:20
It is, but it has steered in different directions.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: jeffdamann on 2010-05-27 02:46:40
Oh my god! I had no idea dio was dead! I love his music....I am truly saddened.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: therage800 on 2010-05-27 03:24:04
Yeah it was cancer. I think stomach cancer. I heard it on the news a couple weeks ago.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-27 07:58:03
Woah I just knew who he was and he past away. RIP
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DLPB on 2017-07-01 17:19:25
Not sure about gay but he is completely braindead and very annoying. Even his name Bieber is annoying.  Another dweeber. In a long line of manufactured artificial strawberriese "music".

I am not even sure how I ended up here.

Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: LeonhartGR on 2017-07-01 17:57:34
I am not even sure how I ended up here.

You were probably browsing the unrelated topics :P
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Covarr on 2017-07-01 19:28:54
There's no rule against bumping old topics in CU... but wow, this is a dumb topic.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DLPB on 2017-07-01 19:29:55
Haha!  It is.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DragRopes on 2017-07-02 04:42:44
There's no rule against bumping old topics in CU... but wow, this is a dumb topic.

It is now my mission to artificially sticky this topic.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Jaki on 2017-07-02 12:05:14
The only way for Bieber to regain his reputation is cover a Pink Floyd song, and make it even more psychedelic.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DLPB on 2017-07-02 16:12:22
If he touches the Floyd, I'm coming for him.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DragRopes on 2017-07-03 18:35:34
If he touches the Floyd, I'm coming for him.

This is pretty much the only thing me and you agree on.  Which just leads me to ask; which album is your favorite, not counting Dark Side through The Wall.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DLPB on 2017-07-03 19:04:28
The Division Bell is my 2nd fave after DSotM. But I also like a lot of Barrett's stuff. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn is the most original of any imho.  He was a genius.  I think the Wall is overrated compared to those three. Comfortably Numb is prob the most overrated song they ever did.  Everyone I know likes it the most - and I think mostly because they are expected to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eAITRu1UhE

No ordinary human could compose that.  Or most others on TPatGoD.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DLPB on 2017-07-04 10:26:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ziyuobqad0

I mean, you know within the first song that it's unique.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DragRopes on 2017-07-08 01:42:12
TDB is a good choice.  I'm more of a WYWH person, there's just so much heart in that album.  I saw DG last year at MSG; he played an INCREDIBLE rendition of High Hopes.  I've got a pretty ferning good recording of it if you'd like.  As far as the earlier albums go, and as much as I love Syd Barrett; I'm personally of the opinion that the band wasn't really "clicking" as a cohesive whole until Saucerful.  Saucerful, to me, sounds like the perfect advancement of Syd's ideas, and it turns them into much more cohesive song structures.  That's not to say that songs like Astronomy Domine, or Chapter 24, or Bike aren't cohesive; but to me, they just sound like they're missing -SOMETHING- musically, and I can't quite put my finger on it.  I also think Atom Heart Mother is an underrated album (I also got to see DG play Fat Old Sun which took me by complete surprise).  It contains the essence of the DSOTM - The Wall era, but it still has the heart of the Syd Barrett/early David Gilmour era.  strawberries...  I feel like we could probably discuss this for days.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DLPB on 2017-07-08 04:37:26
Definitely send me the music.

Also, check out this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CzKUmy6TFQ
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DragRopes on 2017-07-11 20:57:51
You will soon be receiving access to all but the multichannel files in my Pink Floyd collection.  Have fun, you've got a good 92 GB of content headed your way.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DLPB on 2017-07-11 21:00:56
Holy strawberries.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DragRopes on 2017-07-12 00:51:16
Yeah I may uhh.... have a bit of a problem
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DragRopes on 2017-07-24 04:58:51
This was no longer the top topic, so I'm double posting in order to bump, in my effort to artificially sticky it.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DragRopes on 2017-07-30 21:03:55
Stopped being top.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DragRopes on 2017-08-08 23:11:43
I wasn't joking when I said I was going to artificially sticky this.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: Covarr on 2017-08-08 23:35:20
Okay but it'll be stuck below the real stickies :P
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DragRopes on 2017-08-09 00:09:44
hence ARTIFICIALLY stickying it.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber is Gay
Post by: DragRopes on 2017-08-15 23:40:51
I'm not even bothering with pretense anymore.