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RedXIII and Cait Sith
« on: 2011-03-31 15:17:08 »
Xeno seems to have finished the modeling part of RedXIII, so I'm in the process of putting him in the game.  The texture still needs some work though, but hopefully I'll have it completely finished by tonight and someone can add in his tattoos and whatever else is needed.

So far all his bits are cut up and converted into p files, all it needs is to be put on the model and arranged correctly.  Stay tuned.

Side note:  sl, I'm not sure if I have permissions to move and delete and add things on the repository, if so I plan to go through all of that stuff soon and organize it
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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #1 on: 2011-03-31 15:18:58 »
are you refering to the texturing xeno had started?

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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #2 on: 2011-03-31 15:25:00 »
NCS was in the process of cleaning everything up. I could give you full access as well if you need it. Let me know.

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« Reply #3 on: 2011-03-31 18:42:57 »
No, I won't be working on the texture.  I'm just getting the model sized right and lined up with the bones as best as possible.

If NCS is working on it that's fine.  When I went through the repository a week or so ago and it was a complete mess, so as long as someone's taking care of it.

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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #4 on: 2011-03-31 18:46:38 »
do use the incomplete texture just to make sure, and to assure you have the properly uv'd model

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« Reply #5 on: 2011-03-31 18:51:52 »
Yeah of course I'll be using the texture it came with, I was just commenting that even though I finish, the model still won't be 100% done because the texture isn't finished.

Once RedXIII is in game I'll go ahead and put Cait Sith in as well since his model and UV's are also finished.  Unfortunately, he still needs a texture artist.

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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #6 on: 2011-03-31 20:35:31 »
is that my cait sith? i dont recall uploading him, and he is partly textured, though i do recall another person modeling a cait.

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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #7 on: 2011-04-01 00:41:05 »
This http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=10151.0 .   Of course if yours is better I'll happily use it instead.

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« Reply #8 on: 2011-04-01 03:37:38 »

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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #9 on: 2011-04-01 03:49:33 »
Well they look about the same to me.  I would pick yours over the other one simply because the texture has already been started, but I guess we'll just wait until Millenia or another texture artist shows up and let them decide.  I'm completely indifferent.

Red will be done by tomorrow btw.  What are we wanting to do about his combs being equipable?  If that's something we decide to implement I think the best place would be between his 2 feathers.  That way it's really only noticeable if you look for it, and we won't have to worry about animating it independently.

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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #10 on: 2011-04-01 03:55:35 »
actually there is an animation bone for combs, and it is where you described it, on his forheard, between the feathers. all we'd have to do is make models/textures later. (we tested it out with cloud's swords to great lulz - unicorn red with the ragnarok for a horn)

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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #11 on: 2011-04-01 14:09:44 »
Ok I need to know if adjusting the bones is ok.  If not, I'll have to stretch and skew the model some to make everything fit and animate correctly.

The problem I see with adjusting the bones is that any further mods may not work correctly, such as the 60fps.   Adjusting the model may make him look a little weird, but until I'm finished I have no idea how noticeable it will be.

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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #12 on: 2011-04-01 14:11:20 »
ideally you wanna stay away from adjusting bones, but ultimately, experiment til you find something that works

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« Reply #13 on: 2011-04-01 15:14:20 »
Update so you guys can see the adjustments I'll have to make.   All the pieces are lined up with their parent joint (with a few very minor adjustments needed), so it's pretty obvious there will be a lot big adjustments to get it looking right.     I'll go ahead and back this one up before moving on.

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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #14 on: 2011-04-01 16:07:45 »
see if you can stretch the meshes rather than the bones. it should help in several cases. particularly the forward thigh/arm. hard to say about the neck though...

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« Reply #15 on: 2011-04-01 17:28:07 »
With 0 bone adjustments this is the best I can do.  Some animations look no better than they did in the original, but that can't be helped without the model being created differently.   I'm honestly really happy with this so I'm going to go ahead and upload it.
 

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« Reply #16 on: 2011-04-01 19:05:07 »
looks fine! i'll try n texture it sometime

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Re: RedXIII and Cait Sith
« Reply #17 on: 2011-04-04 03:24:04 »
Well, if you want to upload your Cait Sith or PM it to me, we can take a look at it and compare yours with tokomonster's to see which will be easiest to texture / lowest poly count / most accurate, and then go from there.

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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #18 on: 2011-04-05 23:09:16 »
With 0 bone adjustments this is the best I can do.  Some animations look no better than they did in the original, but that can't be helped without the model being created differently.   I'm honestly really happy with this so I'm going to go ahead and upload it.
 

Wow, that actually looks like the original style without textures.

It's a pretty damn good model, I like it.

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Re: RedXIII and Cait Sith
« Reply #19 on: 2011-04-08 04:03:04 »
With 0 bone adjustments this is the best I can do.  Some animations look no better than they did in the original, but that can't be helped without the model being created differently.   I'm honestly really happy with this so I'm going to go ahead and upload it.
 

Wow, Red really looks good now)))

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« Reply #20 on: 2011-04-08 04:26:47 »
Wow, Red really looks good now)))

not half as good as he will when i'm done texturing him :P

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Re: RedXIII
« Reply #21 on: 2011-04-24 15:18:08 »
With 0 bone adjustments this is the best I can do.  Some animations look no better than they did in the original, but that can't be helped without the model being created differently.   I'm honestly really happy with this so I'm going to go ahead and upload it.
 
very nice, good work.

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Re: RedXIII and Cait Sith
« Reply #22 on: 2011-04-24 23:01:31 »
Cait!  Look boys I may be drunk but I am not THAT drunk.  No more cait!   :cry:  :-D  :evil:

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Re: RedXIII and Cait Sith
« Reply #23 on: 2011-04-25 06:43:27 »
Out of curiosity, will these be released when you guys are finished with em, or are you gonna hold them for future TA model packs?

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Re: RedXIII and Cait Sith
« Reply #24 on: 2011-04-25 16:48:43 »
I vote release as completed