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2. There will not be a cure for cancer in our lifetimes. Cancer by itself is not a diagnosis. Cancer is a broad term for a huge number of diseases caused by abnormal genetics and increased growth of cells.
Going over this list (which is fantastic, btw), I had one idea. Could Cid's "Dragon Mod" limit break perhaps be "Dragon Mode"?
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Is this intended simply as a direct transliteration of the Japanese? Or is the ultimate goal a relocalization?
- Items, spells, places, monsters and people for which we have good evidence as having been incorrectly translated, or modified for a western audience, will be restored.
- What this project isn't: A literal retranslation from the Japanese (aside from certain names and items etc as mentioned above).
Because I have some serious misgivings about a lot of your choices, but it'll take me some time to go over your enormous list of changes and form my opinion. That is, of course, if you're looking for criticism. If this is just a masturbatory post saying "Look what we did!" then I won't bother.
- Please keep any discussion on topic as much as possible, we will take any criticism or suggestions seriously as long as it is honest.
- If there's anything there you do not agree with, please copy pasta and give us your thoughts.
The problem is that his ATI drivers are doing it wrong.
it has "のビごレ" followed by "スッキリ"
luksy: Could the white and red war banners in the FiRe mat room read 戦国武?
).Please feel free to explain exactly what it is I've missed. Because that is the impression I've been getting.
So, to sum this up for everyone.
This translation is ignoring EVERYTHING past and present, and attempting to translate the game as if the original creators were perfectly fluent and knowledgeable in both Japanese and English.
Also, for continued discussion of this project.. maybe the "haha" thread isn't the best place. Just saying.
Jumping back to the topic, I doubt anyone else was thinking that someone chose the word "Midgar Zolom" just because it "sounds cooler to dumb yanks". As has been mentioned, the original localization team probably had very little resources for (or interest in) researching cultural references, were probably dumbstruck by the massive amounts of strange katakana, and in the end just chose something randomly. What I was talking about earlier was about replacing cultural references that made no sense to foreign audiences (like Moguri), but Norse mythology is well-established in the Western world (it is Western culture), so there's no reason not to preserve the reference.
* Localization is a very difficult task, of which translation is but one piece of the puzzle. Languages and cultures do not match 1:1, so clearly some hard choices need to be made where you have to prioritize what's most important to convey. Sometimes this can mean it's warranted to change even names and other seemingly "constant" terms, if it means the overall feeling is better preserved. (I stand by my personal opinion that Schala and Janus were good examples of this)
) seem to be rushed and / or poorly researched, and not changed because they fit the target market better.* Seifer's goal is to do translation with minimal localization. Realizing this difference is important, as is realizing when other people already do as well.
* The fact that FF7's translation contained mistakes does not invalidate all of it, nor does it invalidate the basic approach to localization.
* Regardless of being originally correct or not, canon does matter. Buster swords, spoony bards, sons of submariners, when a term "sticks" then that will be what triggers nostalgia later on, not a "corrected" translation. Thus when doing away with canon, you will need to be very clear about it, and quite frankly be prepared for a lot of criticism. (It's like trying to claim Jesus had short hair)
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that most of the criticism that Seifer's project receives is not so much because of the changes they make, but because of the attitude with which it is presented; that there is one true translation and that they're the ones doing it, and if you prefer a different translation, then you're wrong (and possibly stupid). Also, claims like "your hands are tied" and "you are only following the Japanese original" make you sound less like a competent translator and more like a self-proclaimed prophet doing the work of God. In other words, the kind of fanaticism you sometimes accuse your critics of.
). I'm not trying to turn this into some kind of e-penis post though, I've met many a person with no qualifications who can do a far better job than me, I just want you to know that I'm not talking crap all of the time!