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« Reply #25 on: 2002-05-07 23:27:03 »
Netscape... That is... CRAP! I hate Netscape.

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« Reply #26 on: 2002-05-08 02:55:16 »
Netscape 6 is actually pretty good (and fast) - - or at least, 6.1+ is (when they released 6.0, it was still crashing all over the place).  The Netscape 4 series is still around, and it's ok, but lots of new flashy stuff on web pages isn't supported in it correctly.

I prefer IE just because it's here, all nice and tied into Windows and stuff... convienient.  Not to mention its folder-like FTP thing.

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« Reply #27 on: 2002-05-09 07:15:44 »
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Actually, It's in a PNG format, that only Netscape 6 currently supports natively with the Alpha channel. If you were to look at my avatar with NS6, you'll see the image transparent, lookig near-perfect, like it'd been rendered for that background.


Uh.  Dumb question, but why not just convert it to GIF format then?  I haven't run into PNGs before, don't mind me.

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« Reply #28 on: 2002-05-09 11:22:51 »
PNG is great ! it has best loseless compression.

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« Reply #29 on: 2002-05-09 12:16:05 »
If he converted it to GIF, I don't think it would look as good in Netscape 6.  Probably would be the same in IE.

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« Reply #30 on: 2002-05-09 19:28:51 »
You can fiddle with Alpha channel stuff in GIF formats.  In addition to Animation and all that.

I never used Netscape much, but I don't remember it ever having problems with Gifs.

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« Reply #31 on: 2002-06-04 01:40:53 »
I thought PNG was a linux format... Ot at least Conqerour new of it. I like Conquerour! I want to see it ported to Windoze and also GnoZip.

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« Reply #32 on: 2002-06-04 04:17:28 »
Conquerour had problems with many web pages i tried to view with it.

I don't know if PNG was originally a Linux format, but I think it has been adopted as the main Linux format recently.

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« Reply #33 on: 2002-06-04 11:24:19 »
I dont know if it is linux format, but maybe it is associated with linux because it is free.

For you programmers who want to play with png go to http://www.libpng.org

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« Reply #34 on: 2002-06-09 01:11:28 »
PNG is open source, which is why some people associate it with Linux.  There was a bit of fluster going about with the PNG group and Apple, after an Apple patent having to do with Alpha Channels came to light-doesn't really effect the PNG format itself, just some applications that use it.  So far, Apple has yet to announce any intentions with it's patent, so it may just let it be (esp. since progs like Adobe Photoshop use alpha channels, and it's doubtful Apple wants to tick off such an important developer of apps for their platform).

Konqueror is getting better, though it still has a long way to go.  Mozilla is about the best way to go on a Tux box (IMHO), though Opera does fairly well, as does Galeon (Gnome's browser, based on Mozilla...)

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« Reply #35 on: 2002-06-09 10:13:45 »
I dunno if i get it right, somebody wants to register 'alpha channel' ? Somebody wants to register transparency ? This cant be.

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« Reply #36 on: 2002-06-09 17:18:00 »
Not the transparency, but the technique used to display it (masking).  Here, these two articles explain it better than I can:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/22898.html

http://pmt.sourceforge.net/SVG-patents/apple.html

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« Reply #37 on: 2002-06-09 18:40:34 »
A patent on alpha-blending using mask images. That's pretty heavy. Practically *everything* image&alpha-related on computers is dependant on that little technique.

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« Reply #38 on: 2002-06-09 19:14:07 »
Exactly.  Since Apple's been relatively quiet on the subject, I take it as a good thing-Not shooting their own feet by stirring up major developers like Adobe (I wonder where the Mac would be without the graphics developer community).  Of course, they could be biding their time, waiting to see what happens later on-then Apple might consider enforcing the patent if it thinks it's in it's own best interest.  

Heh, just noticed the topic review displays in reverse order.  Pretty sweet!