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Miscellaneous Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Joey on 2002-06-11 08:06:46
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Well, it was the funniest joke about crashing computers since Win98 crashed right in front of Bill Gate's face.
And now...PlayOnline's server crashes!!! Barely 24 hours after the release, and having invalid serials!!!! Wonder what OS was the server? Win98? As far as I know, other online game servers can handle more users than that...
Square derserves this for not releasing FF9 & 10 for PC.
What's your comments?
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I don't think FFXI will be very good at all. It's suposed to be Final Fantasy yetr it's not. If it was offline too I'd buy it. Also, if I had broadband. I'd definatly buy it. But I don't so I won't. Also, I'm hearing stuff about the server messing up which puts me off.
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Nay, FFXI didn't impress me. Doesn't even look like an FF game. Kingdom Hearts will save Squaresoft's ass.
-vvalentine
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Well... I definately am not planning to get FFXI... never was.
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Message.
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I've played on Diablo II a few times on B.NET and it's ok now that most people have gone over the Neverwinter Nights and Dungeon Siege, and I have 56k (UK version. Believe me, there's everywhere else 56k and UK 56k :roll:)
FFXI doesn't look like a Final Fantasy yes. This does not neccessarily make it a bad game. I don't know about any other FF player's minds but I've always wanted a FF with a community, like a guild system. Here's my wish list:
Turn-based
Join guilds, the guild becomes your 4-member-max party
A community with decent chat
Random battles
Random weapons spawn (just like Diablo II!)
Me to get broadband for the same price I get my dial-up! :wicked:
Can I hear what everyone else wants in a FF?
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Heh... Invalid serials, lack of broadband, crashing servers... And they expect us to BUY this peice o' shite?
I might buy it, but if I do, it will only be because of two reason: 1) I get broadband, &/or 2) I want to complete my collection of FF games.
Yeah, Kingdom Hearts is looking cool. *Wonders when FF12 info is going to come out...*
Sephiroth 3D
"I don't understand..." "You don't have to understand." - Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
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lol jari. so true. i was staff at a d2 fansite at the time (www.d2nation.com kinda dead) i got the game at 9 am a DAY before it was supposed to come out (thanks, eb :D ) and i tried to get on realm, but it was already down. i had a sorc at level 30 on open before blizz got em working. Its odd though, becuase the stress test never crashed... and there were up to 75000 people online at once.
joey-> this is kinda old news.....
im getting it for PC.
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Hmm, when FFXI's released for PC is it gonna work on a dial-up connection?
I find all these new broadband games so annoying, it's bloody expensive and a lot of people can't even get broadband in their area.
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THANK YOU SIR EERRRR!! Some one FINALLY understands!! My problem is not the cost, well... not really, it's the fact that I live in MFE and broadband won't be available out here until fiber optics is available everywhere else in the world! BAH CURSES TO SQUARESOFT!!
*a mad*
Kendrilian
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According to BT's website, I can get broadband in my area, NR1. It's the price for me unfortunately. I pay £5.99 a month for off-peak access. The 900~kb version of broadband is around £50 and the 500~kb is about £25. I aren't going to bother with the £50 one.
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i can get cable access..... or a DS1....
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According to BT's website, I can get broadband in my area, NR1. It's the price for me unfortunately. I pay £5.99 a month for off-peak access. The 900~kb version of broadband is around £50 and the 500~kb is about £25. I aren't going to bother with the £50 one.
LOL guess what I've just applied for BT 512K (It's £29.99/month actually) and they've just activated my line (10th June, waited for 17 days after ordering it!).
It's been the 2nd day and I'm YET to test out my ADSL speed.... haha thank you BT, I've been attempting to connect to your server for 100 times yesterday, which none of them worked. Until today I still cannot connect....... !!!
So now I have to use my slow ol'.... 56k :evil: (Damn BT.... :-? )
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Oh, man, you guys sure do make me appreciate what I have.
You see, due to how close my house is to the main DSL switch, we get speeds comparable to a T1 or T2 line, but in reality we only paid for the 384k downstream plan!
Plus -- This is a new development -- my dad recently set up a wireless network, and that means he disconnected my hard line to the network and installed a USB wireless network device, which communicates with the router, and therefore the DSL modem.
So, in effect, I'm on a Wireless DSL Connection! LOL!
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Speaking of wireless networks, I'm thinking of setting one up soon (with USB Linksys WUSB11's) ... what devices do you use? How far do they work reliably?
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About the same exact stuff that you're using, brand and all. So far, it works, but you must not power down the wireless network device (in this case, either by unplugging it or unplugging the comp itself, or using the switch on the comp's back), even when you're shutting the system down for a while, otherwise you run the risk of losing the IP address it reserved in the Network, 'cause the power loss causes it to lose communication with the WAP (Wireless Access Point).
Believe me -- It took like 2 hours to figure out how to fix it again. And this happened twice, because we had no idea what was causing it to lose the IP setting.
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Well... I'm not gonna be using an access point, if I can help it, I wanna go straight P2P. This computer (mine) will be the internet server and I'll use Microsoft's Internet Connection Sharing to handle that.
I also am gonna have two XP comps (one of which being this one, the internet gateway), a 98 comp and a 95 comp. Hope that works out ok.
The manual for the WUSB11 says it should be able to do P2P ("Ad-Hoc mode"), I'm assuming you don't need an access point for this?
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I think so....."Ad-hoc" seems to be used for networks consisting of 2 comps only. However, the "infrastructure" mode (my dad set the comps up using this mode), is used for simply integrating the new comp into an already existing wireless network that's larger than 2 computers.
And, if you get dsl, the WAP may be a better way to go, you can access the dsl modem regardless of the other computer being on, plus the Linksys WAP also has a built-in hardware firewall (which means I can't host multiplayer games on this big bad 1.5Ghz! :x )
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wow... wireless DSL... That must suck. I'd rather have wired network DSL. True, the speed doesn't have a difference between the two, but wireless can only go to 10Mbit, and I'd rather run at 100Mbit. Either way, DSL is slower, but not as slow as your reported T1-like speeds.
Oh, Ken: I know EXACTLY how you feel. I'll be supported for DSL in 2143, if Qwest get's off it's butt soon.
Sephiroth 3D
"I don't understand..." "You don't have to understand." - Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
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Seph3d: Ditto. Only problem is that I don't have a say in what my dad decides to do with the network. He wanted to get rid of the hard line I have (which was in the "haphazardly-set-across-the-floor" mode), so he could please my mom, who was having a fit over the fact that the line kept restricting the movement of one very big glass door.
Oh, and according to the wireless network monitor, I'm stable at a 11mbit connection, but, I still don't trust the thing. Sometimes I wonder if it does indeed "forget" to wake up when I go out to the internet after a doing some thing else for a while, sometimes the connection response time is THAT long.
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10MBit is fine unless you're copying large files ... like hundreds of megs. Which is possible, of course - but for 'net sharing, it's more than OK.
We have ADSL shared in our house, via standard CAT5, but of course the 10MBit machine(s) only show problems when we're copying files internally. Personally, I could /usually/ say that wireless would be neat, since I rarely use the 100MBit bandwidth. Of course, sometimes (ie. when burning CD's) I do need that extra speed...
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Well, I'm gonna start with two computers, and if everything looks good, I'll integrate the other two.
And, if you get dsl, the WAP may be a better way to go, you can access the dsl modem regardless of the other computer being on, plus the Linksys WAP also has a built-in hardware firewall (which means I can't host multiplayer games on this big bad 1.5Ghz! )
Well, I thought about this before...
My computer is gonna be the internet host, and it's on all the time anyway, so that doesn't really matter :-p - Plus, if I use myself as the host, I won't be behind a firewall but the other computers will have some restricted access to the internet, to a certian excent (like being behind any other router).
Plus I don't wanna pay anymore than I have to :-p
Thanks
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I don't like wireless. It's not as secure as a wired network. Shees, I wouldn't even think of using wireless here in my apartment. Psshhh, WEP is like a joke and RSA can kiss my a$$.
-vvalentine
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ViVi (vvalentine) as a good point. If I have a similar wireless hookup, I just have to get within range of your setup, then hack your password, then I'll gain access to every file in your system. I could ruin you.
In theory. I don't know how to hack a password, except through trial & error.
Personally, if I WAS to get DSL, I'd simply get a firewall/router & connect it to one of my hubs. Then my DSL would be shared with the network. :D
Sephiroth 3D
"I don't understand..." "You don't have to understand." - Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
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There are lots of devices that can be tweaked to intercept the frequencies of wireless connections. Brute force hacking is probable easiest in a wireless network. Firewalls and Routers would simply be somehow useless.
-vvalentine
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If you set up a wireless network correctly, you haven't got a problem. Brute force hacking still takes /ages/, especially if your system is set up correctly to, say, restrict connections to one attempt per second; at that rate, it'd take centuries or more to brute force hack it...
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If you set up a wireless network correctly, you haven't got a problem. Brute force hacking still takes /ages/, especially if your system is set up correctly to, say, restrict connections to one attempt per second; at that rate, it'd take centuries or more to brute force hack it...
Yeah, that's true. It really does depend on how the network is setup. However, some administrators don't seem to know about that. Where I used to work, they had a mixed network. One day, they got hacked, but fortunately for them they didn't have access to other computers (at least that's how it seemed). They have an AS/400 (where all the accounts information is located) and it's protected by two routers and a firewall. One of the managers was blaming us that one of us (trainers) may have given out the password. The weird thing was that they only left traces that an attack (and intrusion) occured, but no trace of who did it and from where. I don't have info of what logs they had.
-vvalentine
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Yeah. The real problem with wireless networks is that if you set them up wrong, it's really asking for trouble. Incompetant network admins aren't so much of a problem with private wired LAN's because it's not /as/ easy for a hacker to get access to the network - with wireless it's far easier to get in.
The real solution is to get a proper admin and make sure the network's set up correctly ;)
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wireless? bah! im currently in the process of running cat5 through my entire house :) too bad i can't just use one cable.... at one point i will have 4 cables at the same place.
as for firewalls........ ZoneAlarm :)
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Well, like I said, If I had a choice, I'd go with the wired approach, but with my dad, it's one of those "my way or the highway" sorta things.
Oh, and Aaron: If you do plan to integrate the other two, it would be wise to switch all the computers to using "infrastructure" mode first. It'll probably be easier for the two new ones to get settled in.
And, lastly, my dad is running a mixed network. He's got his PII 266mhz and my sister's P1 233mhz (yep, that's my old system!) on a physical wire, but both my 1.5Ghz and dad's new laptop are using wireless.
So far, everything's working without a hitch, the laptop is using WinXP, all the others are using Win98SE.
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Here's a big question.
I'm good friends with the guy who lives next-door to me. I believe a wireless network would reach his house (it's not far at all) and that way, he could buy some devices and netowrk HIS house, and then we could play games and share files and stuff. Cool.
However, we'd want all the computers in my house to get access to the internet through MY connection, and the ones in his house to get access through HIS (we both have cable, but we are using different service providers).
Is this achieved easily by changing the gateway setting in the TCP/IP setting to match the computer's IP that you want to get internet access through? Or is their more setup involved? (Or is it possible? Heh)
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Probably, is all I can say without knowing more about wireless networking ;) You've got the right idea - if the computers in each house can have their house's net server as a gateway, then that should work. *Should* being the key phrase ;)
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keep the networks separate, configure XP ICS individually, then plug in the wireless network.
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*Drools*
Geez, we don't even have that service in my area...
FF11 won't be shipping to Malaysia, right?
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Ive been wanting to set up a network for my two computers for a couple months. Ive bought Cat5 cables and a Linksys hub, but I have no clue on how to set up the actual network. All Ive been able to do is connect both of my pcs with the cat5 and play networked Unreal Tournament and Command and Conquer. If anyone can help me or if they need any more details about my situation just ask. One pc is ME the other 98. I dont happen to "have in my possession at this time" the 98 disc, so if that makes a difference.....
Anyway thanks in advance to all you guys, Im planning on buying Kingdom Hearts but Im not sure about ff11.
PEACE
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well..... technically speaking, you have a network :) just enable netbeui or something.
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ok, i got about ten different definitions for it on google but no info on how to set it up! if anyone knows of a site or can explain how to set it up please, im desperate
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Well, if you can play games over your "network," then you obviously have a network set up.
1 - Right-click on "Network Neighboorhood" ("My Network Places" in ME) and select "Properties." (If the icon is not present on your desktop, go to the Network control panel.)
2 - This will bring up a list of protocols and services installed on your computer. You need to install...
- Client for Microsoft Networks
- AT LEAST ONE of the following protocols (I usually select all three):
* NetBEUI
* TCP/IP
* IPX
- And the File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks service.
(Make sure to click the file/print sharing button and enable it)
Restart.
Any more questions?
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Well, the network only works when i connect the pcs DIRECTLY through the ethernet cards, not with the hub in between. i was running a tcp/ip connection i think (might have been ipx but im to lazy to check).
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Well then.
If you have a working connection connecting two PCs directly with an Ethernet cable, the cable must be a crossover cable.
For it to work properly with the hub, I think you'll have to find yourself some normal cable.
Maybe this is the problem?
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well that would be bad, do u have aim, maybe we could discuss this since u obviously are online
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im on express, so i cant find out what ur sn is
sorry
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Well there is this nifty "AIM" button at the bottom of each post. And if you hold the mouse over it, you can look at the bottom of the screen to see my screenname.
In other words, it is [snipped].
[Edit] Spelling/Grammar fix
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Yeah thats right. If you are using twisted pair cables to connect two computers directly, you need different cable as when connecting computer into hub. You should go to your local shop and ask for the cable.
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i use a crossover cable. the first port on my hub has a "crossover" button :) if you don't have one of those, you can just take of one of the ends and put it back on the other way.
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Yeah, well, you'd need cable-clamping equipment.
Anyway, I ordered two WUSB11's so I'll see how my wireless network works out when they get here (a week ish).
Stay tuned! :-p
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i have an uplink port, is that the same as a crossover port, i think so
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Stay tuned! :-p
LOL. And he says that about upcoming info on his wireless networking experiment.
Nice pun! :p
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Lol, I didn't even catch that myself until just now.
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Anyway, about the PS2 and its broadband capability......
If you run a cable from the PS2 to a dsl router (like the one my dad has), would I get full dsl access for games like FF11?
That'd be great, if it was possible......LOL!
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Well, my cable modem doesn't require any configuration to work. It's full DHCP, you just plug in and go. I'm positive it'll work with my Gamecube, once there are online games :-p.
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SqaureSoft really annoy me. They only release FFXI for the Pc cause they know it will make money. No FFX for the fans on the Pc. No screw them they say. Notice how FFXI Pc is comming out a few weeks after the Ps2 version. We had to wait ages for VII/VIII Psx-Pc...
Squaresoft really are doing a lot of things that annoy me lately. Possible sequal of FFX? BAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!
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Aaron - linksys etherfast?
im using my XP 1900+ machine as my 'router'
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Aaron - linksys etherfast?
Hmm... I currently have no plans to use an Etherfast router or any other kind. I'll be using my computer as the router (Internet Connection Sharing). This has a few advantages...
- No firewall or any connection restrictions on the "gateway" machine (well this could be a disadvantage if you want a firewall).
- Um... I don't have to pay for the router.
However, the rest of the machines can only access the internet when the "gateway" machine is on, but that doesn't matter much, because it's almost always on.
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SqaureSoft really annoy me. They only release FFXI for the Pc cause they know it will make money. No FFX for the fans on the Pc. No screw them they say. Notice how FFXI Pc is comming out a few weeks after the Ps2 version. We had to wait ages for VII/VIII Psx-Pc...
Squaresoft really are doing a lot of things that annoy me lately. Possible sequal of FFX? BAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!
People say that the reason FFX won't come to PC is that the PC can't handle the motion blur & if they made it, the image quality would drop.
Bullsh!t!
On my now peice 'o shite system (same one I've used for so long, it's just out of date) I ran Grand Theif Auto III with motion blur & I didn't have a problem. The graphics in it actually look BETTER than the PS2 version.
This is proof enough for me that it is possible to convert FFX to PC without any problems.
Sephiroth 3D
"I don't understand..." "You don't have to understand." - Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
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I don't know if people in general say that, but I've mentioned it as a possible partial explanation for the non-existance of a PC port. Also, GTA3's motion blur is quite different in how it's created, modifying FFX to use this system takes a looooong time. Also, the other PS2 effects aren't as easy to emulate on a PC, such as the "refraction" or "lens" effects. But anyway, I'm guessing the primary reason is that even though most stuff can be converted with a lot of work, Square is worried (with reason) that the costs will outweigh any profit.
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actually canealot, there will be 2 ffx sequels.
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Qhimm's right, when it comes to the bottom line.
I still think that someone, somewhere (perhaps even me) should organize a snail mail campaign. In fact, with The two sequels.... they could do some serious milking with a PC version (what, 50-60 for each?). If they were nice and knew what they were really doing, they'd make the sequels "expansion packs" to the main game, requiring the main game (So everyone who's played FFX on the PS2 and wants the sequels on the PC is a bit out of luck... but that's money and marketing for you)
Anyway, back on topic to FFXI.
FFXI is online. This is not condusive to the series. I totally agree. But here's my philosophy, in a timeline format:
1 - Release for the PC
2 - Couple months pass
3 - Someone makes a server emulator
At which time, someone should make a pack for such a server to, while using the same engine, turn FFXI offline. Most everything's there already. (locations, music, etc.) The tricky part is only scripting NPCs and party members. As well as basing a story on/scripting a story for the FFXI world.
Wishful musings of a crazy fan...
Wulf
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Stay tuned! :-p
Thought I might follow up.
I got my WUSB11's yesterday and they work absolutely perfectly. The signal strength is very strong, even with the computers on opposite ends of my house. Shared internet connection works fine, so I don't have to buy a WAP or anything. Shared printers is nice too.
Have yet to test and see if it reaches next-door...
Definately recommend these things to anyone considering a wireless network.
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Wtf? No, no, no, no. I bet there not having much trouble porting FFXI to the Pc so Square could go ahead with a Pc port of FFX when ever they like. They'd have to port all the advanced effects over to T&L yes but I'm betting that would be pretty easy with GF3+ card. The motion blur might be a problem but its be proved to be possible with a lot of other Ps2 ports (the only ones that come to mind now is Gta3 and Soul Reaver 2..) and keep in mind that mini sequal to Mgs2 is comming to the Pc.
Square are just being bastards about it....