Author Topic: Ending the heat problems (Read 13898 times)

dgp9999 · « **on:** 2002-01-09 19:08:00 »

Ok, I've got my eye set on the GlobalWin 802 ATX case, the deal comes with a Macron 300W PSU from overclockers.co.uk. Confirming will this be suitable to run my system normally, no overclocking, maybe a little on me GeForce2, but tht's not the point. Will my CPU run cooler than 50oC (running my 1700+ at 1.1ghz)? I have a 200W PSU with a shoddy case and no system fans. You might not remember my system from the other post (Thanks for the help by the way, you were great ^_^ ).
MSI K7T266 PRO-R
AMD Athlon XP 1700+
2 x 256mb PC2100 DDR RAM
Creative GeForce 2 Pro 64mb DDR 200mhz clock, 400mhz memory
SBLive! Player 1024

Appreciate the extra advice!

-Dan

atzn · « **Reply #1 on:** 2002-01-09 20:00:00 »

Well that's weird. Why do you want to 'underclock' your 1700+ to 1.1GHz?

50oC? You're kidding aren't you?!!

Changing PSU helps.... I changed mine from 230W to 300W, and I realised that my system is more stable.....

As for heat, I don't install any system fans, and I don't overclock more importantly, but i get around 20-30 degrees C on idle..... ^_^
If I'd to run it on full usage..... then it'll be hot.

Specs:
AMD 1.2Ghz Athlon with Taisol Fan.
300W PSU (don't know what's the name.....just changed it recently heh)

And a piece of advice:
Don't overclock your graphics card too much

And oh..... my system could only achieve that 20 degrees on idle cuz I leave my casing open.

dgp9999 · « **Reply #2 on:** 2002-01-09 20:04:00 »

I don't want to run it at 1.1ghz. I have to. If I don't, games will crash. I've seen it reach 67oC playing Deus Ex.

atzn · « **Reply #3 on:** 2002-01-09 20:09:00 »

oh dear........
then what I suggest strongly is to change your fan.
changing PSU will only help stabilise the system, not cool it

Hope this helps.

dgp9999 · « **Reply #4 on:** 2002-01-09 20:16:00 »

I have changed it. It's upposed to run at 6500rpm but it manages to reach 5400rpm. It's a massive heatsink and fan recommended by AMD.

atzn · « **Reply #5 on:** 2002-01-09 20:25:00 »

I totally have no idea then. One of my friend who owns a 1.33GHz Athlon also faces a similar problem, he managed to cool down the system a bit by installing multiple system fans. Anyway, just wait for replies from other experts out there.... ^_^ I'm no computer genius.....

PurpleSmurf · « **Reply #6 on:** 2002-01-09 21:11:00 »

you might want to look at this, hope it help

. here's the link

dgp9999 · « **Reply #7 on:** 2002-01-10 08:26:00 »

My evercool fan cost me Â£20. It's the fact that it doesn't run at 6500rpm, but only at 5400rpm is the problem. Cases do cool down the PC. Better air flow means the PC will run cooler.
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atzn · « **Reply #8 on:** 2002-01-10 19:10:00 »

Whoops I though you were just changing the PSU only.... yeah changing the casing does help too.....

Don't buy a casing which has no proper air ventilation.... choose a casing which has proper ones..... I'm sure you'll know how to do this

Threesixty · « **Reply #9 on:** 2002-01-11 00:38:00 »

Just type the model number in a search engine, such as Yahoo. And read the reviews. My HS fan runs a 4000 rpms. and average temps are in the 40's.

One other thing it could be is the Heatsink not having a good contact with the little chip. On an Athlon, the only thing that the HS is cooling is that metal part.....it' s a super small area. Your probably using the pad that came with the heatsink. For a best connection using Arctic Silver 2 Thermal Compound between the metal and the heatsink.

http://arcticsilver.com

One more thing about new heatsinks....The Pads that come pasted to them have a transparent film over them (some come with a thermal compound that you need to apply).....your supposed to remove the film from the pad, before installing it on the chip.), If you don't, you'll get real, real high tempertures. (don't peel-off the pad if you don't use the thermal compound. You can only use one or the other, never use the Pad and Compound at the same time)
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Darkness · « **Reply #10 on:** 2002-01-11 02:16:00 »

*whispers* the answer to your problem is liquid nitrogen. run ur CPU at -17 degrees celcius. You could probably bring it up to 2.7 or so with that little warmth.

Theres always water cooling as well. somewhat loud, but 100 dollars isnt bad.

vvalentine · « **Reply #11 on:** 2002-01-11 08:33:00 »

Damn, I didn't know this one. Major overclocking!!!!!!
I wonder how much would be needed for power supply?

-vvalentine

M0T · « **Reply #12 on:** 2002-01-12 22:51:00 »

Could it be that your power supply is not delivering enough power to power everything in your case so your fan doesnt have enough power to run at its rated speed? Also until you get your new case take all the sides and top off the chassis so its open to the air, which will help cool it down.
A problem I found with my pc downstairs was that it had too many cards in it so the air around them heated up and didnt move which caused the whole system to overheat.
Also Make sure your pc isnt against any wood or anything, that was the reason I couldn't play more than 10 minutes of red faction. I didnt realise until i reached down behind the pc to check all the connections to find that the wood was about 70 degrees

dgp9999 · « **Reply #13 on:** 2002-01-13 10:27:00 »

MOT has got it. Yeah, I do not have enough power. Would the 300W Macron be fine? It the one which comes in the GlobalWin package which is Â£73.20. If I wanted a 350W I would just buy the case for Â£44.65 and an Enermax PSU for Â£47.35. It maybe around Â£20 more but Enermax are nice.
Wood, my desk but it closer to the underside of the case, it never gets hot. Behind the PC, now that I have my Athlon, the PSU's churning out the pits of hell, the cannot move very well at the back.

I can't take the top my my case off, the sides yes, but there's no point taking off the other side.

-Dan

M0T · « **Reply #14 on:** 2002-01-13 10:34:00 »

Hmmm, Enermax's are nice and It might be worth the extra investment for the future if we start getting like we did a few years back, those extremely power hungry range of cards like voodoo's

dgp9999 · « **Reply #15 on:** 2002-01-13 10:36:00 »

Ok, the total has come to Â£92.00. Hmm, not a bad price, seeing that those Coolermaster ones are Â£200.

M0T · « **Reply #16 on:** 2002-01-13 10:40:00 »

Just looked at that case and It is the exact one my sister has, which Is pretty cool seeing how eaily it is to get Into, Â£92 isnt bad since the case and PSU will last a few years

Goku7 · « **Reply #17 on:** 2002-01-13 23:43:00 »

Wow. I guess I'm glad I got the P4 (with its speed throttling ability) instead of the AMD, after reading about the need for cooling. Let's see: my system, with the case on, the temperature report shown at the BIOS level of boot-up shows about 35c. And that's with my system placed right next to a wooden desk, on carpet! (ha!)

I haven't looked at the temperture reading with the case off......

Anyway, I think the ambient temperture of the room can even be a factor. Those people who are running systems out in the desert, with no shade from the heat, will probably have a harder time preventing overheating. If it's possible, perhaps you ought to move the tower so an air condition vent has a straight shot at cooling the system.
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M0T · « **Reply #18 on:** 2002-01-14 16:11:00 »

My system temperature on carpet case on next to desk with wires sorted out 27c (ha)

dgp9999 · « **Reply #19 on:** 2002-01-14 18:47:00 »

I've decided to pay a little extra cash to get the Coolermaster Tornado case. With perhaps the Macron 300W, I don't think I can afford the Enermax 350W if I get the Tornado.

-Dan

Goku7 · « **Reply #20 on:** 2002-01-15 03:47:00 »

That's strange, I coulda sworn it said 23c during bootup today....

That's the lowest I've ever seen it......

Oh well, gotta go!

Qhimm · « **Reply #21 on:** 2002-01-17 13:41:00 »

Running my 1GHz Athlong at 56 degrees C... I have a decent fan&heatsink, but my casing's airflow sucks. I sometimes remove the cover to help cool it down a little

Sephiroth 3D · « **Reply #22 on:** 2002-01-17 20:54:00 »

Cover? What cover?

I leave the side of my computer off for 3 reasons: 1) better cooling, 2) Heats my room, & 3) Faster access to the insides. Very good when you have to upgrade quickly.

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Author Topic: Ending the heat problems (Read 13898 times)

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