First of all, we don't need a cure for AIDS.
Try coming to Thailand and saying that. I had a female friend who had a mother. It’s past-tense because, just within my short time here, her mother managed to die of AIDS she had gotten when she was raped by a foreigner who came to this country to do just that. But I suppose if it was you here instead of me, you would have told her, “We don’t need a cure for AIDS. Just die please. And since you are Buddhist and don’t believe in the one true church, go to hell while you’re at it.â€
I'm sorry about your friend's mother. Your female friend still
has a mother, however -- waiting for your female friend when she dies.
I've never taken the time to fully explain my beliefs (nor do I intend to, lest you belittle and pick apart each one), but I never said that the other religions would "go to hell" (nor would athiests). You love to take every statement I make and turn it into a hyperbole of offensive degree. I believe that there are different kingdoms of glory that each person falls into. In your (and your friend's mother's) case, you would *probably* fall into the second highest degree in heaven when you die. Good, even great people, that were "blinded by the craftiness of man" fall into this category. It is not terrible, but it will be disappointing when you will see what you could have had.
People call it a pandemic, yet it is so easy to consciously abstain from spreading it.
Although a very huge percentage of people spread it before they even know they have it. It takes no fewer than 6 months to be detected, and without reason for suspicion, it will take longer than that to detect until the guy or girl actually thinks something is wrong and goes in and gets checked. Most people usually only do this after a solid year of having HIV, during which time they easily manage to infect 20 others, each of whom won’t know they have it until they’ve spent a year infecting 20 others.
It’s the perfect killing machine.
Infect 20 others?? Who are these people, sex machines? That's why (at least my) religion preaches chastity and abstinence. It is a good moral standard that prevents people from being ravaged by HIV+ sexual maniacs. Yet again you dodge my question. So let me rephrase and ask it again. Would not the HIV virus become extinct if the entire human population upheld moral standards, and actually thought of the consequences before jumping in bed with every person to come along?
since it is, after all, a test. If we remembered God from before we were born, then we would all have a perfect faith, and it wouldn't be a test, would it?
So, while I presented a series of logically connected events that easily explain why we have no soul or conscience before life, your whole side can be summarized as “it’s a test,†which is, in any case, something you choose to believe out of fear rather than by some logical foundation.
If this were all true, then would you, or would you not be screwed when you die?
And this just goes to show I am right. You never once in your life tried to think on your own. You live in the fear others gave you. You constantly spend your energy checking and rechecking yourself to make sure everything you do falls within the boundaries of what others told you would land you in Heaven. You spend so much energy checking yourself it takes time from your life, and concern that you might fall outside those boundaries just once causes you so much stress that the quality of your life, the one life you know you have, is going down the drain (note that I don’t mean to imply you have this stress all the time, but just at some times when you do something or think a certain idea).
You live in a cage created by your parents when you were a child. ã‹ã‚ã„ãã§ã™ã。 You never even had a chance.
Thank you for summarizing my beliefs and thoughts. Of all the people in the world, you know me the best. Once again, you dodge answering my question by glorifying your own argument. You also stab in the dark at what my beliefs are. You should probably stop before you hurt yourself.
On a tangent, what the heck does "ã‹ã‚ã„ãã§ã™ã。" mean? Online Thai translators are quite rare I'll have you know.
You don't know if your spirit can have thought process after you die
And neither do you, so stop betting all your money on it.
We'll settle the bets after we both die.
If all you can see is visible light, does that mean that infrared and ultraviolet don't exist?
Who said anything about just being able to see thing? And by the way, yes, we have ways of detecting ultraviolet light and infrared, so we can certainly prove they do indeed exist, without being able to see them directly. No one said seeing directly with our own eyes is the only form of proof. But no method exists to detect or prove your God.
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Somehow, you've managed to miss the entire beauty of my analogy. Of course there are ways of detecting ultraviolet and infrared light. But ages ago, there was no such thing. Just as we didn't have a method of detecting light that was not in the color spectrum back then (or rather, we didn't even know it existed), we don't have a way of physically detecting spiritual matter now.
Did it just appear out of nowhere? Explain that to me in cold hard facts.
No, see, unlike Christians, I don’t pretend to have an undisputable answer for every single thing anyone could ever ask. I actually take the time to acknowledge what things humans simply can never know. And I understand that any idea I suggested as an answer would be simply my own idea. Christians, on the other hand, simply know absolutely everything, no matter how impossible it really is to know. I have no doubts that you can tell me how the universe began, and I have no doubts that while you are explaining it all, it will never occur to you how ridiculous your explanation is, or that you are trying to present as fact something that has no real-world basis and can never be proved right, but it will occur to you that your explanation can never be proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous, I don't know, or even claim to know everything. I have no clue how God created the universe, only that he did.
Do you acknowledge that there are concepts and objects that exist that we do not comprehend, or even begin to understand? Just because we cannot "prove" it does not mean it does not exist.
I think I explained quite well that I am familiar with the idea of being unable to explain things, and that things can not be understood/comprehended.
You do realize that I wrote my entire post in one sitting, and that I hadn't received your "explanation" before reiterating what I already stated.
If it is a fact that God doesn't exist, then present some evidence please.
Sure, but first ... a bunch of garbage trying to prove a point that no matter how ridiculous the belief, it is impossible to confirm with empirical evidence either way...
Alright... so...? You clearly said "Sure [I will provide you with some evidence], but first...". I read your "but first", and now I'm waiting for the part that you promised next. Somehow, your post seems to have ended before you got to that part. Perhaps you could incorporate it into your next post?
Wait, that statement wasn't even intended for you... Djé you sneaky dog, getting L. Spiro on your side was what you (hoped) wanted.
Also, L. Spiro, have you ever considered law school? You deliver your arguments with such confidence and such conviction, that it's difficult to
retaliate with sufficient argue with you.
RPGillespie