exactly , this is the reason why i asked that , because the last time i tried doom train , it wasn't compatible with the steam version , not completely at least , also , hades owrkshop is way more complete than all those seperated tools for final fantasy 8 , so it would be great to have a unique tool even for this game , after all i am sure that there are also people who like final fantasy 8 despite all the complain for not be for "pro" , and infact is quite the reason why people love that game , is about have fun , not to get hysterical XD , and i find unfair to just ignore that game only because the category of the pro-wanna be don't like it , especially because we don't like their games quite because we have tastes that are the opposite to their tastes :O