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Makubex (Mendelevium)

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OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« on: 2009-08-06 02:50:20 »

Well..... no not really...
we only wish,
xD.


You may know me as Rinoa.. Yuffie_Lover.. or even Makubex..
but, i am here to say... I have a really cool idea for a mod.. like it be the best ever!!!!

well no... its rather simple really.. and probably not all that cool
 :-P

Well who knows... i sure don't.

Well anyways..
I had a sudden inspiration.. to take all the PRP (NPC RP) models and Chibify them
:D

A.K.A size them down.. and make them fit the original game animations and such..

Murak Modder was my inspiration with his better chibi models....

It got me thinking... i want highly detailed chibis... and since i am un skilled in the 3D arts to just make them myself..

I thought why not use materials that were already existing...

First of all... i ask you... am I allowed to do this?
Cause, i don't really know the rules about modding.
xD

I just have to give them credit right?????

And secondly...
I cannot seem to convert the PRP cloud into either 3DS. or OBJ. formats.. and they will not show up in my 3DS. Max...
does any one know why..
 i will try them in my blender and see if they show up there...


Well what do you guys think?
Too much?
Un cool?
Too cool? (gee whiz we wouldn't want that. XP)

*sorry about my crappy attempt at humor.. please feel free to take a stab at my poor jokes and ill mannerisms...*


And remember...
CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD...
well no, not really...

and again i apologize... i fail at humor
 :|

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #1 on: 2009-08-06 02:53:02 »
i'll get them done nice n textured too.

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #2 on: 2009-08-06 02:55:36 »
You could have a stab at it  :evil:

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #3 on: 2009-08-06 03:09:44 »
In retrospect this mod is actually the same as Murak Modder's... I am just doing all the models he is not.. such as the NPCs... and such..
i want a more.. "balanced" FF7 world...

And in all honesty..
This will make good practice..
but i want to use the PRP models... well some of there parts...

and the original models..
and sort of merge them.. and... its not working
 :wink:

cause i can't seem to extract the PRP models into a usable format... :|
I suppose i could do all my work in Kimera..
but i find it easier to have both the models open in 3DS. Max..

call me crazy
:P


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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #4 on: 2009-08-06 03:24:42 »
Biturn is the program that will convert FF7 models into .3ds or a few other choice formats

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #5 on: 2009-08-06 03:25:08 »
Biturn..
doesn't work..
or maybe its MAX
but.. it appears in the Bit Burn viewer..
but when i export as OBJ. or 3DS.

it won't appear in MAX...
:(
« Last Edit: 2009-08-06 03:39:56 by Makubex »

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #6 on: 2009-08-06 03:28:38 »
Does it not say successfully converted when you press the 'convert' button? 

Let's use AAAA.hrc as an example.  If I press convert there will now be an AAAA.3ds file and AAAA.bmp file.  It's an export function.  It doesn't actually convert AAAA.hrc.

I'm thinking you probably already knew that though...

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #7 on: 2009-08-06 03:33:07 »
Does it not say successfully converted when you press the 'convert' button? 

Let's use AAAA.hrc as an example.  If I press convert there will now be an AAAA.3ds file and AAAA.bmp file.  It's an export function.  It doesn't actually convert AAAA.hrc.

I'm thinking you probably already knew that though...

Biturn by defult will put the 3ds and bitmap files in the same directory, I find it easier if you save to the desktop, after this just use the import function in your 3d moddling software and browse to the 3ds file
« Last Edit: 2009-08-06 03:34:42 by MXster »

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #8 on: 2009-08-06 03:34:20 »
it says successful convert.
yeah..
it just won't show up in the 3D program..
it shows up in kImera and biturn fine..
just not 3DS. MAX
i haven't tested it in blender
or any other program yet
i will do that now.

i don't know how to save to desktop.. i think i am using an older version..
is there a link to the latest version of biturn some wheres around here?
-.-


« Last Edit: 2009-08-06 03:39:45 by Makubex »

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #9 on: 2009-08-06 03:42:51 »
.87b3 is the newest that works

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #10 on: 2009-08-06 03:44:50 »
i am using
.88

O.o
is that bad?

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #11 on: 2009-08-06 03:48:29 »
i am using
.88

O.o
is that bad?
Yeah, I think Mirex created Biturn, and on his site he states the newest release doesn't work well with FF7.  So there's your problem :-)

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #12 on: 2009-08-06 03:49:56 »
alright then..
:D

thanks!
That has been helpful..
:D

*edit*

odd... all i get in version .87
is a blue sphere in the view port.
:(

Does this mean i have to do all my work in Kimera..
hahah..
aw well.
;)
« Last Edit: 2009-08-06 03:53:45 by Makubex »

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #13 on: 2009-08-06 05:22:33 »
Okay.. i decided to do all my work in kimera..

but i am having some isssues



the chibi i made doesn't quite fit the skeleton... and i then realized the original skeleton is a different one than the PRP one..
:S


oh boy,
anyone got any suggestions...?

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #14 on: 2009-08-06 05:29:26 »
Save each part of the PRP model into seperate .p files and then replace them with the originals models parts, do this by double clicking the part and save, then double click the originals parts and load, then just re-position it.

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #15 on: 2009-08-06 05:35:41 »
My PC is crappy.. it seems *is just saying... feels inept*

Um... well i did that...
and opened the PRP head over the original...
and..well..

i get two PRP heads.. and the chest and waist just utterly disappear..
:S

 :|

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #16 on: 2009-08-06 05:44:23 »
Try making it bigger before you save it, I'm interested in this so I shall attempt to make Tifa....

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #17 on: 2009-08-06 05:49:49 »
:D...
yay some one is interested in my project..
^.^

well... i can size things down...
but i am still stuck on the skeleton issue..
:S

is there a way to just replace the bones..
or change the bones???

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« Reply #18 on: 2009-08-06 06:00:53 »
Ok, save the PRP model part, eg the hand, then open the original model, click once on the hand so its selected and click remove part from the bone, then click add part to bone and load the PRP hand, then resize  :-D

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #19 on: 2009-08-06 06:34:45 »
W-o-W
i am such an idiot..
 i finally figured out how to do what you said, and it was exactly the same..
.the skeletons are the exactly the same.. just the shoulders are altered slightly
xD




Cloud is all done... well accept some finishing touches of course..
but what do you guys think..
 i had to make him a little taller to fit the skeleton... does it still pull the chibi affect?
« Last Edit: 2009-08-06 06:46:51 by Makubex »

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #20 on: 2009-08-06 07:42:35 »
looks more anime style the body/head ratio isnt quite right but you could modify the skeleton to fix that

one another not will they be battle chibis too like this

« Last Edit: 2009-08-06 07:53:41 by Zack Fair »

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #21 on: 2009-08-06 08:12:18 »
No.. i am not doing anything to the battle models..
xD

just anime/ chibifying the field models..
chibi if i can.. anime if not..

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #22 on: 2009-08-06 08:18:19 »
Well i have some in game shots...
just to see if it looked right..
what do you guys think?








Cloud is blinking in one of them..

I will get more.. with cloud with actually with some other characters
soon..

just one question..
why are all my models.. laying down
when they aren't moving?

like they sprawl out an look bad....
i remember this problem happening before....
i can't remember the fix
« Last Edit: 2009-08-06 08:25:10 by Makubex »

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Re: OH NOES CHIBIS ARE TAKING OVER THE EARTH O.O
« Reply #23 on: 2009-08-06 11:27:37 »
Hello everyone.
I see there is currectly a lot of people interested in using chibi models around. Way more than back when the PRP started. That's why it was decided to not use them (although I disliked the idea).
You might be interested on a small program I wrote by that time. It's and HRC resizer. It can also resize in and SD-like way. It leaves head, hand and feet at their original size and resizes the rest.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ME1AA96L

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« Reply #24 on: 2009-08-06 14:59:46 »
Wow... Borde...
That tool took out a lot of the guess work for me.. and it re sized the bones.
Brilliant!
Thanks So Much!
:D



Yay.. here is another W.I.P shot.. the skeletons match this time..
:D

That HRC tool worked wonders..
Thanks Borde
:D

My problem now.. is.. he kind of looks like a midget/kid....
not a chibi..
how do i fix that???

Cause I tried my best to size it to the original model...
but.. :|
« Last Edit: 2009-08-06 16:18:34 by Makubex »