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[unsupported claims]

Ah, okay, it seems you don't actually know what you're talking about which actually relieves me quite a bit.

Congrats on being the first person in this debate to flame bait and take the argument to the person.  :mrgreen:  As for what you said, they aren't comparable at all. 

"If you murder you will be cast into the fires of hell [by god]"  is not the same as

 “Slay the idolators [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the last Day…. Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! (Sura 9:5,29,41).

or as

Ishaq:240     "The Jews are a nation of liars.... The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people."

The one in the bible is a punishment by god when you are dead, the one in the Koran is Muhammad instructing living followers to take up arms against non Muslims.

Are you really going to argue that they are the same thing?  Do you think it is a coincidence that there are so many wars and civil wars where Islam is a large minority or a majority?  Do you think it is a coincidence that the only world religion still killing people significantly (and nearly always) is Islam?  Do you think it is pure coincidence?

Do you?

How many more years of Islamic trouble will convince you?  Will it take a civil war or a terrorist attack on home soil every day?  Will it take another 1000 years of trouble with this same religion before people realise that this religion is different because the Koran is different.  That it is more dangerous because of how it instructs and the way it leaves little in these passages up to nice interpretations.

Islam is different.  It always has been and if the Koran remains unchanged, it always will be.  You can't make Mein Kampf a good book or Nazism a good ideology. 

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The IRA was as bad as the Muslim extremists back in the day.  Or probably the Crusaders.  And most likely most of Africa's "revolutionary fighters".  Most cultures, Western or otherwise, have their extremists.  It's just a matter of how big does their voice resonate within the general population.

You have just spoken 2 big myths there.  Firstly, the crusades came about BECAUSE of Islamic oppression and aggression.  Secondly, the IRA did not blow itself up in suicide attacks, and did not have a war against UNBELIEVERS or Jews or Christians (which is what the Muhammad instructs his followers to do).  Also, you may have noticed...  the IRA are no longer terrorising people, and they never attacked world targets.  The IRA is in no way comparable to Islamic problems.  The IRA also didn't kill thousands upon thousands upon thousands since it was founded, unlike Islam.  The IRA was not based on a religious book which brainwashes.  It was a political struggle not a political AND religious struggle.

Islam rewards those who kill their targets in its afterlife.  Thus there is no inhibition to Muslims whereas the IRA valued their own lives.  Osama Bin Laden said it best "The USA loves life, we love death, that is the difference between us."  You can't compare the ideology of IRA to the Koran.

I suggest you watch this: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2ee4WzxV4c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSlhxjM0TM8&feature=related

You are comparing chalk with cheese.


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Of course the BBC is a left wing organisation which is completely crippled by Political Correctness.  Just because some people like to use it to peddle their agenda, does not make this any less real.

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With an RPG a story is needed but I am not so sure how much it matters.  I absolutely love BOF3 but its story is a little on the basic side.

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Yes I corrected the "their" to "there" elsewhere and forgot to do it here, not that it matters.  I don't come on forums to make sure every word is perfect.

There is no question at all that the suicide bombers get their authority from the Koran.  This is a fact.  Not only does it instruct followers to kill unbelievers, it also instructs that great rewards of v.irgins await.  So it is rewarding death as long as it is a "holy war", and unfortunately the Koran allows pretty much anything to be made a holy war if the target is not Islamic.

My problem with Obama was not that he and the others haven't come out and said "look Islam is a problem" which they should have done by now.  In this particular episode, it was the fact that he told American's that it was un-American to offend, burn books etc.  Which is sheer nonsense because it is a fundamental right in the American constitution.  It was very hypocritical of him.  To send FBI to the guys house and go so mad over it, only made him look completely out of touch with what the constitution allows and what freedom of expression is.

These guys aren't stupid, they know full well how bad and how dangerous Islam is, but they have cooked up this little game of appeasement in the hope that it will go away because they are afraid of what the result might be (Bush was just as bad, he came out with this whole Islam is peaceful crap too).  Perhaps it will, but history has shown that these tactics seldom, if ever work; if they don't...  well we are in for a lot of sh*t.

http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/1274/LTC-Allen-West-for-Congress.aspx

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“Let me say this. And this – I don’t care about being popular or whatever. The first thing you got to do is you got to study and understand who you’re up against. And you must realize that this is not a religion that you’re fighting against. You’re fighting against a theo-political belief system and construct. You’re fighting against something that’s been doing this thing since 622 A.D. Since the 7th Century. Thirteen hundred and eighty-eight years.
You want to dig up Charles Martel and ask him why he was fighting the Muslim Army at the Battle of Tours in 732? You want to ask the Venetian fleet at Lepanto why they were fighting a Muslim fleet in 1571? You want to ask the Christian, I mean the Germanic and Austrian Knights why they were fighting at the Gates of Vienna in 1683? You want to ask people what happened at Constantinople and why today it’s called Istanbul because they lost that fight in 1453.
You need to get into the Koran. You need to understand their precepts. You need to read the Surah. You need to read the Hadithe. And then you can really understand this is not a perversion. They are doing exactly what this book says…” (applause, lots of it)


Until the leadership of the United States is willing to say that, we will just keep on chasing our tails.


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Secondly, religious people often say "hurr atheism has the potential for the greatest evil because atheists don't fear punished after death for doing evil things". I say religion has the potential for the greatest evil because it can promise rewards after death for doing evil things. REWARDS OF 72 RAISINS! Therefore, religion can take away the greatest impediment for doing crazy sh*t. Atheists may not fear what comes after death, but they at least fear death itself. If you believe in an afterlife in which you will be rewarded for killing Americans and Jews, then when your moral intuitions have been overcome by belief in divine proclamation, there's nothing to stop you from killing.

Nice to see someone gets this totally.

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Releases / Re: [REL]Menu Reconstruction Mod
« on: 2010-09-11 23:13:07 »
Yeah I just added it there for now :)  Sorry about that.  When next one comes along, I will post here.  Which is soon...  because Installer is being made now.

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Team Avalanche / Re: Fonts problem
« on: 2010-09-11 14:59:30 »
sl1982, When do you think the next version of the GUI will be available ?

Never ask that question.  It is ready when it is ready.  It is impossible to give accurate times for when a project, or part of it, will be finished.

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America would never be at war with Islam, Mr Obama declared.

"It was not a religion that attacked us that September day. It was Al-Qaeda," he said

Errrr no, Mr. Obama.  It was a bunch of Muslims who found numerous justification within their holy book the Koran, and so, yes, religion was what attacked you. Had their been no Islam or religion, there would have been no attack.

I am tired of all this appeasement and lying.  They are absolutely terrified of Islam and yet still call it the Religion of Peace.   :o

The American law states clearly that an American has the right to certain freedoms which include burning flags, offending and burning books, yet Mr. Obama was speaking against it, and even the FBI were round to this guys house trying to stop him.  Had this been a bible (and plenty of those are burned), no one would have said a dicky bird!  Double standards yet again.

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General Discussion / Re: Curious about this dialog...
« on: 2010-09-11 00:08:15 »
That is very poor since when referring to cloud directly, the {cloud} tag is always used...  not very bright to get things like that wrong...

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Given the ridiculous intolerance and death threats from many Muslim countries over this, it will only be a matter of time before someone else does.


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Well since religion was spawned by man, it is quite clear that man is at ultimate fault.  If not religion man would find another way to create trouble.  Humans are the real problem.

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General Discussion / Re: Curious about this dialog...
« on: 2010-09-10 16:58:09 »
Automated translation sadly won't work at all with Japanese...  but that Cloud entry is definitely erroneous.  I will get Luksy to translate it all if someone hasn't beforehand.

The original translation won't be too far out.

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oh yes I completely agree.  Both should be criticised and rightly, but as you point out, people are trying to get out of this debate by using that fallacy.  I am against all religion, I just happen to be against Islam more than the rest, and for good reason.

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That isn't true since Christian's mostly base their beliefs around the 4 gospels (and I have read all 4.  There is nothing in them which is anywhere near as bad or frequent as what is contained in the Koran).  This isn't the case with Muslims and Islam.  The book is not structured the same way, and there are far more problems with the Koran.  They are not "as bad as each other" at all.

If they were, Christians today would still be able to justify bombing people or sleeping with multiple wives.  That stopped because the 4 gospels don't condone it.  With Islam, the Koran has numerous quotes which create trouble.  The very fact we STILL have a problem with Islam is testament to the differences.

If you look at the islamic world and all its barbarity and problems and then compare it to the western world, you see a polar opposite.  Yes we have our problems, but they are nothing compared to that disease pit and unfortunately, Islam is at fault.

Churchill Wrote in 1899 after seeing it first hand:
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The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as
his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must
delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased
to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid
qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social
development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists
in the world.

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If I ever encountered someone wearing an "islam is evil" t-shirt walking down the street, I'd legit punch them square in their prejudice face. If they have the right to piss me off, why shouldn't I have the right to sock 'em one?

Because the right to free speech is a fundamental right, and attacking someone for it means you aren't worthy to live in a free society.  There is a difference between offending someone and assaulting someone.  You would be rightly arrested and charged.  The person wearing the shirt would not.  And more to the point, Islam is evil by the things it overwhelmingly says- if we take evil to mean war, racism, legitamising sex with children, hatred to Jews, Christians and non-believers, inciting death, inciting murder et al.

You call it prejudice, but perhaps they did more research than you and your position is based on a lack of knowledge to what Islam is?  If I was a scientist who ran around with "The Earth Revolves Around The Sun" Shirts in the past, I may have been locked up.  Would you have been the person who was ready to sock me in the jaw because it went against what you knew and understood?

If you classify Nazism as evil then there can be no double standard here.  Classifying an ideology as Religion does not exempt a hateful backward ideology from being a hateful backward ideology.  Nazism is an evil ideology and would be even if it was made into a religion with Hitler as a prophet.

It seems to me that all one needs to do is make a crappy and dangerous set of values into a religious belief system, and people fall over themselves affording it a special status.  Well, I call bullsh*t to that and in a few more decades, so will everyone else.

Criticising and protesting against religion is no different from criticising and protesting against a political party like the democrats or republicans.  You have the right to attack it on a  T shirt.  You don't have the right to go round punching people in the face.

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*snip*

It's an interesting double standard that people who attack Christianity for being destructive cannot see what you have pointed out.

It is because there is this desire by a number of people to self hate.  The number of times I have heard "Yes but Christianity is just as bad, what is the difference?"  and pathetic attempts to compare the 2 books based on choice quotes from the old testament.

This guy does a better job than I ever could >

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwA3jErg9Bc

The koran is not the bible.  Islam is a much worse ideology.  Anybody who has done any reasonable research knows the difference and know that we are facing a severe problem, especially in Europe with Islamification.


"Slay the unbeliever wherever you find them"  - chapter 9 v5

The Koran names Jews , unbelievers and Christians by name.

http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes_Jews.Islam

It is a book of hate and racism, being afforded special status because it is a world religion.  Perhaps if I get enough people believing Hitler is the messiah, I too can claim that Nazism deserves respect? Mein Kampf can be the bible. 

In a nutshell there is no difference because both are ideologies based on hate.  The people who try to compare Christianity and Islam are clueless, the people who try to claim Islam is peaceful are clueless or liars, and the people who claim religion deserves respect need mental evaluation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcm873G94jo&feature=fvw

"When we see Islamic societies, we see what that negative man did."
"Any doctrine that calls to kill those who do not believe in it, is not a religion."
"Islam is a political doctrine which imposes itself by force."

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I think it was a good idea.  It has been called off now sadly.  The Muslims and media like to portray Islam as a religion of peace but it is clear every time something like this happens that it is nothing but an intolerant and dangerous ideology.

I am no fan of any religion, I don't believe in any religion, though I was brought up Roman Catholic.  It is all man made nonsense.  The Muslims believe the Koran quite literally and are very  strict in interpretations.  The fact is, Christianity adapted and the bible is harmless compared to the War Diary that is the Koran.  Muhammad was a war mongering man who devised a way to control the masses and get his own way, namely multiple wives, conquering, and having sex with 9 year old children (Aisha).

There is no ideology on earth as dangerous as Islam, it is the most dangerous threat to the world since Nazism.  No wonder then that Mein Kampf sells so well in Turkey.    The problem with Islam is Islam.  The problem with Muslims is they follow a deadly and backward 6th century ideology and religion deserves no respect.

Islam and all forms of control need to be attacked and confronted head on, because dipping your head in the sand isn't going to work and this isn't going to go away.

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General Discussion / Re: Curious about this dialog...
« on: 2010-09-08 23:36:05 »
LOVELESSのチケット取れたんですけど
 いっしょにいきません?」<End>
「やめとけ!
 ミッドガルは非常警戒体制に入ってる」<End>
「あっ、先輩!
 僕のこと、心配してくれてるんですか!」<End>
「そんなんじゃねえ!!
 テロリストはスラムにひそんでる。
 俺たちだって、気をぬけねぇ」<End>
「ああ、アバランチですか?」<New>
「大丈夫ですよ。
 なんてったって
 ソルジャーが警備に導入されたんですから」<End>
「ソルジャーの出動かぁ、久しぶりですよね。
 ねえ、先輩」<New>
「僕、ソルジャーの試験
 落っこちちゃったんですよ。
 この話、しましたっけ?」<End>
「おう!!
 ペラペラペラペラ……」<New>
「すこしはだまって、仕事できねえのか!」<End>
「……しゅん」<End>
「アバランチと先輩……
 どっちがこわいんだろ?」<New>
「きっと、先輩だな」<End>
「おう!!
 ここから先は立入禁止だ!!」<End>

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This is the dialogue.  There is no mention of Cloud in that sentence, but I will have it translated.

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Team Avalanche / Re: Fonts problem
« on: 2010-09-08 16:28:12 »
The new one has é back...  but that was because I requested it for the retranslation project and Mystére (Mystile original English version).  The font at the moment is for the English game where special characters are not required.  Therefore you will have to wait until TA decide, if ever, to add them.


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Team Avalanche / Re: Team Avalanche Logo
« on: 2010-09-07 04:36:01 »

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Team Avalanche / Re: Team Avalanche Logo
« on: 2010-09-07 03:00:59 »
Yes but the squaresoft logo from PSX didn't use the chocobo's.  Actually where did that logo even come from?  Just made for PC?


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Team Avalanche / Re: Team Avalanche Logo
« on: 2010-09-07 02:55:51 »
I don't see it as an issue myself, if you mean that the second FMV is too long?  That's mainly because they wanted it to be, with the Chocobo scene...

I guess that can be left?

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Team Avalanche / Re: Team Avalanche Logo
« on: 2010-09-07 02:45:54 »
sorry. Slight error with that last one when the zoom out happened, a very small shift...
Corrected.

eidoslogo.avi

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Team Avalanche / Re: Team Avalanche Logo
« on: 2010-09-07 02:31:12 »
Thanks all.

Ok it is done.  This can be used with latest aali driver as far as I know (and probably a few revisions before).




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Team Avalanche / Re: Team Avalanche Logo
« on: 2010-09-07 00:43:17 »
The res is pretty much the maximum...  any more would be overkill.  The new one stands at 1280*960 which will mean no black bars.  I will perfect it and send.

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