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Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Qhimm on 2005-06-10 16:33:45
...I'm strongly considering adding a minimum IQ/common sense requirement to be able to post on the forums. Jesus.

You know, this place started small, and for a long time it consisted mostly of a group of sensible people I very much liked to call friends. What is it now? A goddamn daycare center for people who shouldn't be allowed to interact online, or even own a keyboard for that matter.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Nanaki on 2005-06-13 12:39:35
why dont you just annihilate peoples accounts, i mean if someone annoys you (inc. me if desired) just go on a banning spree and get rid of them.

Or you could just scrap this forum then start anew. it may seem mean to go on a rage of banning but ... You may feel better after it.

Oh and people should accept your word as final and if they get erased or the site gets scrapped or you make changes, people should respect that and go back to their non forum life

Stay strong, stay sane
Nanaki

This is not an application (personaly im too much of a nice person / worry-wart to become a mod)
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: corpse on 2005-06-13 14:04:15
I would be interested in being moderated. I know I've posted very little. I've been here awhile, but I only tend to post If I think I can help or have anything of interest to say.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Alhexx on 2005-06-13 14:49:40
I think that the moderating system on this board has 3 major problems:

1. I think that one of the main moderating problems on this board is that only a few of your moderators are still around here (SaiNt, Aaron, You, and me).
Some of the moderators have not been posting here for a long while, as fice, halkun, dagsverre...
This worked fine some time ago, however, in the last few months we have more and more problems in here, so you have to update your mod crew.
But I see that you've already started taking care of this problem.
I think that making Nori a mod is a good decision.

2. Another problem was that moderators are only allowed to moderate a few forums, not all. If I see some heavy rule-breaking action in the unrelated forum (where most of the shit happens), for example, I cannot use my "mod powers" there, the only thing I can do is giving an advise or telling another mod/admin who has the power to edit or delete posts or topics in a specific forum about that...

You maybe should think about giving the mods access to more forums, especially the unreleated one to take care of that.

And as for that "If anyone thinks they can make a difference, let me know and I'll make you a moderator." is not a good Idea. I think you (and SaiNt) should be the only ones who decide who's going to be a moderator.
After all, this is not a guerilla war, where everyone fights for his own ideal, but the moderators are (or at least should be) a crew under your control, fighting for your ideals.

3. I think there is also another point:
Once you have finished the mod crew update, then you should maybe tell your moderators what you expect them to do in critical situations.
This would be a help for us moderators to enforce the rules, and if we know what you expect from us, then we can also handle a lot of problem for you without being afraid to be too rude.

Think about it.

 - Alhexx

 - edit -
Had to correct my grammar and the structure of this post a few times...

 - edit -
corpse: If I was you, I'd scale down that avatar a bit before someone else does...
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Bunnie-Maru on 2005-06-13 22:10:56
You'd have to admit, everything is segregated for the most part (with a few game tweaking/tech crossovers, and unrelated/general crossovers, just topics that should be in the other).
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-13 23:33:47
Hey guys, I think I would be an awesome moderator. First I would ban all of my relatives, then I would ban MOYB, then I would get rid of my own warning, and then I would be happy, and become a good mod, b/c at least Qhimm knows that I'm honest. I never lie. If anyone can trust me its everyone! Vote RPGillespie!

P.S. I'm one of the 2% that contribute, right..? HEy, you can't deny that if someone has a problem, I will do my best to help them b/c I like it when people help me, even though I haven't been getting much lately, but I'm not complaining...
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Bunnie-Maru on 2005-06-13 23:38:11
I cant tell if that's sarcasm or serious  :isee:
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-13 23:41:08
Hey, I've mended my ways...

P.S. MOYB, stop doing quotings! they are boring to everybody but who you are insulting!
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Bunnie-Maru on 2005-06-13 23:50:57
So, you ARE serious?  :o

Lets be a little realistic here, your intro here wasnt that spectacular ("Oil is gay"), created multiple accounts to impersonate the admin, in which that unintentionally added fire to an already high-tweaked group of people because of ongoing conflict.

Im sure Im not one to be judging people, as Im sure I've done a few things to irk a few people, but damn, lets be a little bit realistic here.

Still like ya as a person though  :D

I must say though, you suprised me. I (Im sure a few other people thought it too) thought you were going to be another Nando ("In no time you'll be rollin in a cadillac on twanky fours") that would be out of here within a week. Definetly turned around.

I propose a petition to get that guy back in here. Never laughed so hard. Ever.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: JPWest on 2005-06-14 00:06:01
I fink i shud be a mod cos i iz got nuffink betta to do. </idiot>

Seriously tho, I think that one global mod would do the trick... to take some work off Qhimm.  Someone who is around a lot so they can nip trash threads in the bud, other than that I have nothing to contribute here... in fact, I'm trying to figure out why I bothered to post.

FYI, I'm not applying... look at my join date and look at my post count, although I have read the forums a lot more than it seems I just rarely have anything to contribute.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: EmperorSteele on 2005-06-14 00:33:00
Isn't the mindless bantering and arguing something Qhimm dislikes?

And anyway, maybe it's just my ego making me feel this way, but I'm afraid I may have something to do with the influx of dyslexic newbies.  I tend to pimp this site/forum as much as i can in other forums and on my site, which of course draws people here.

I'll cease and desist, though, if this is actually the case =(

Oh, and my 2 cents on the moderating situation: Don't mod anyone who asks for the job.  They usually end up being shit (as i've observed over the last eight years of watching various interwebs forums =P)
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-14 00:46:54
Hey, I think I'd be a pretty good moderator... Besides which, My oil is gay intro was just because I was young and naive back then and posted so I could raise my level from level 0 newbie to level 1 newbie, I don't do that anymore! The Qhimm admin thing was.. b/c I saw someone on another forum do it, and the result was pretty funny... I didn't think everyone would chop Jari's head off... Hey, I can't stand people who come to a site, post and when they get an answer, leave forever never to be heard of agian. If someone helps me, I feel obliged to help them. I don't think I've ever argued w/ anyone either except MOYB  b/c he isn't very nice and the very sight of his posts gets my adrenaline pumping... BTW, your post count doesn't matter whether you should be a mod or not. If you are a crrappy mod, you will be a crappy mod with 3 posts or 1699 posts.

--RPGillespie

P.S. Hey you got to admit, I add spice to the site... Haven't you ever looked at my witty and amusing topic replies and sayed "Oh hohoho man, thats a knee-slapper, that RPGillespie just cracks me up..." I know I have.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Qhimm on 2005-06-14 04:30:02
Quote from: Monkey on your back
Ok, this was simply so funny that I had to answer. Sorry about that, feel free to ignore me.

I think I'll do just that, then.

Quote from: EmperorSteele
Oh, and my 2 cents on the moderating situation: Don't mod anyone who asks for the job. They usually end up being sh*t (as i've observed over the last eight years of watching various interwebs forums =P)

Quite perceptive of you.

Seriously, some of you people need a reality check before "applying" for the moderator job. There is a certain group of people I might consider as moderators. There is also a (larger) group of people that want to be moderators. Here's the mathematical kick for you: only the intersection of those two sets will ever become moderators. Just because the average IQ of this place is dropping by the minute (though I suspect it's a global trend) doesn't mean I'll let any idiot speak for me. Apply only if you know exactly the sort of thing I'd disagree with, but you've never done yourself. You're not going to wield any form of authority as a moderator if you're being moderated. Hey, why not let Rubicant (http://forums.qhimm.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1559) be a moderator?

Quote from: RPGillespie
Besides which, My oil is gay intro was just because I was young and naive back then

You've been registered less than two months!! Speaking of which, I've now removed a total of twelve fake accounts registered by members of your family, last one a duplicate of "Killing Edge". You're looking at an IP range ban, not a moderator title. You're essentially insulting our intelligence by even hinting otherwise, sarcastic or not.

For the record, I'd never, ever entrust as much as a trashbin to someone who hasn't even seen what the forums used to be. How the hell do you expect to be able to uphold ideals if you think the last year is how the forums are supposed to be? Sure you could read a few old topics, but most of the signature topics are long sinced purged, and when you do find a good topic, most likely you're just sitting and thinking "gee, I wish I could talk like that". I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you don't have any purpose to post other than "it's fun", "it's a friend", "I've got nothing better to do", etc., then keep your fingers off your keyboard or I'll physically come over there and shove it up you.

Quote from: Bunnie-Maru
You'd have to admit, everything is segregated for the most part (with a few game tweaking/tech crossovers, and unrelated/general crossovers, just topics that should be in the other).

Segregated, except for the small fact that I was looking through the first page of the General forum yesterday, and had to move at least fifteen topics to Game tweaking. Thank god at least Tech-related is more closely controlled, or it would be completely worthless as any kind of repository of knowledge. I could never run a wiki-type thing here, because for some reason a majority of the members are unable to separate fact and opinion, and lack any form of judgment on what to post, where to post it, when to post it and why to post it. Put simply, the memberlist is becoming more and more representative of the entire internet population. People who want help from the know-hows here but don't even spend the few seconds it takes to read the words "tech support" under the Game tweaking forum link to get the damn request in the right forum shouldn't get help, or even be allowed on the internet. In fact, I could probably filter 90% of the new members out by making the registration page look like this:

Quote from: Registration page
Click here to register (http://winboot.mine.nu/)
Please be sure to read the rules (http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=1731) before posting.

Click here to read the FAQ (http://forums.qhimm.com/profile.php?mode=register)

Much easier than banning, and less sub-intelligent insults.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sad Jari on 2005-06-14 04:32:47
The entertainment value of this thread is pretty immense.

:lol:
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Bunnie-Maru on 2005-06-14 04:49:47
Quote from: Qhimm
except for the small fact that I was looking through the first page of the General forum yesterday, and had to move at least fifteen topics to Game tweaking.


I was referring more so to just complete random topics tending to stay more-so in Unrelated. I myself have barely seen too many random topics in general, and practicly none in either game tweaking or tech related (though I usually dont tend to go in there, in all honesty).

I see your point though. There've been alot of "Help me" topics in general  -_-
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Aaron on 2005-06-14 04:52:10
Quote
2. Another problem was that moderators are only allowed to moderate a few forums, not all. If I see some heavy rule-breaking action in the unrelated forum (where most of the sh*t happens), for example, I cannot use my "mod powers" there, the only thing I can do is giving an advise or telling another mod/admin who has the power to edit or delete posts or topics in a specific forum about that...

I notice my name is written in orange now...

I hope I can help hold this place together, but I'm pretty busy as some of you know.  :-P
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-14 15:47:47
Just a suggestion, with forums that have a LOT of members, I've noticed they have kind of a level security system. For example, nintendo's official forum, when you first join, you are restricted strictly to one section that you can post in. Once your level grows, you can post in more and more areas.  If a member becomes inactive for 1 week in level 0, his account gets deleted. If a member becomes inactive for 1 month in level 1, his account gets deleted, etc, until the higher levels are pretty much immune. This seems to be effective in confining the idiots to the lower levels b/c they will post once, get bored and leave. Also, the lower ranks don't have avatars or signatures. They earn them depending on their rank. Another suggestion is that you have to be stricter on your rules. Qhimm and Aaron are really nice and sometimes don't enforce the rules. Check this out and ignore #12 http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/terms This site is pretty much open to all of the general pubic, so alot of trash washes in from... somewhere.  Have I really only been active for 2 months? I swear i was here longer than that...

RPGillespie

P.S. Qhimm, you stabbed me deep...
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sad Jari on 2005-06-14 15:58:36
Quote from: RPGillespie
This site is pretty much open to all of the general pubic, so alot of trash washes in from... somewhere.

Freudian slip?

Quote from: RPGillespie
 Have I really only been active for 2 months? I swear i was here longer than that...

Yeah, the "Joined: 28 Apr 2005" under your mug is there just for fun. It certainly could not be the date you joined.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Darkness on 2005-06-14 15:59:51
Well lets see... the Remake is dead. No one is making any tools anymore. All that's really going on here is the rare activity in the tech forum, making some progress on the various formats. I don't think thats enough to keep a community alive without the filler of idiots.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-14 23:16:37
Quote
Yeah, the "Joined: 28 Apr 2005" under your mug is there just for fun. It certainly could not be the date you joined.
Man, its hard to believe you are as old as you are Jari...

Quote from: Darkness
Well lets see... the Remake is dead. No one is making any tools anymore. All that's really going on here is the rare activity in the tech forum, making some progress on the various formats. I don't think thats enough to keep a community alive without the filler of idiots.
What about Reunion and Borde's work? That doesn't count? Who says no one is making tools anymore? I'm working on the best FF7 tool of all time: RPGillespiedit, its secret though, shhh, don't tell anyone.[/quote]
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: JPWest on 2005-06-14 23:39:57
I think, with the right input, the community could crawl back to where it was.

With The SaiNt's work on higher res coming to a conclusion and Reunion's battle -> field model work there should be enough to keep it running.  Once Reunion finishes up we will have a nicely updated game to play with, and plenty of tweaking to be done (see Borde's work on mixed models to make all the NPC's).

At the end of the day there's still a fair bit going on.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sad Jari on 2005-06-14 23:48:18
Quote from: RPGillespie
Quote
Yeah, the "Joined: 28 Apr 2005" under your mug is there just for fun. It certainly could not be the date you joined.
Man, its hard to believe you are as old as you are Jari...

Don't hate me just because you are stupid.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Reunion on 2005-06-15 01:04:21
Sephiroth... (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/FFVIIIReunion/09cda92a.jpg)
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Relf on 2005-06-15 01:13:23
As little as it may be worth I'd like to input my humble opinion that I would like L.Spiro to be made a mod. Beyond that one incident that Jari will likely revive again he seemed to be a good person for the job.



P.S.: I do belive the prase went something along the lines of anyone who can get themselves made president should be in no way allowed to do the job
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-15 03:56:22
I refuse to argue, but here's a good site for all you RPGillespie haters out there:


Site devoted to Meanies! (http://RPGillespie.haters.youarelame.com)

P.S. Make sure your speakers are on for full effect

P.P.S reunion, how'd you do that?
Title: ...
Post by: Nori on 2005-06-15 04:18:44
*Sigh* Kind words can be short and easy to speak, but their echoes are truly endless - M.T
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sad Jari on 2005-06-15 04:18:45
Relf:

Revive? Oh, you couldn't be further from the truth! I think that your idea is easily the best one on this thread. :)

Ain't that right, mr Admin? 8)


RPGillespie:

Instead of arguing you'll just try insulting, right? Nice idea! :P

Too bad that this system does not have speakers at all, must listen it later. I'm sure that it's just as funny as rest of your stuff, though. :D


EDIT:

Nori: Not to worry, I don't need or wish kind words from here. :)
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-15 04:28:23
Hey, you can type any name for youarelame.com, I didn't make that site (They weren't my insults :wink:). I was going to butter up Qhimm by posting a link to qhimm.youaremyfriend.com but for some reason taht site was discontinued. Fine, Nori, I'll take your advice. Jari I'm sorry buddy, ol' pal. Can you find in your heart to forgive me? I won't insult you anymore if you don't insult me (and my intelligence) anymore. This is not sarcasm, I promise. I'll even change the above link b/c I'm that nice of a guy.

--RPGillespie

P.S. the music is just boring elevator music. (Its lame)[/i]
Title: 1876
Post by: Nori on 2005-06-15 04:42:28
Quote from: Qhimm
...I'm strongly considering adding a minimum IQ/common sense requirement to be able to post on the forums. Jesus.
How about MIT Entrance Examination, 1876 (http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/exhibits/exam-entrance1876/)? With new questions? :wink:
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-15 04:49:31
Huh, I can do most all the math except Geometry b/c I forget how to do it. Do you want to go to MIT, Nori, since you live in MA?
Title: Re: 1876
Post by: Goku7 on 2005-06-15 04:56:02
Quote from: Nori
How about MIT Entrance Examination, 1876 (http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/exhibits/exam-entrance1876/)? With new questions? :wink:


Would that be with or without calculators? :roll:  :P
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sad Jari on 2005-06-15 05:22:04
Quote from: RPGillespie
Jari I'm sorry buddy, ol' pal. Can you find in your heart to forgive me?

No.

Quote from: RPGillespie
I won't insult you anymore if you don't insult me (and my intelligence) anymore.

Few more days... you don't have to worry about me after that.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Alhexx on 2005-06-15 11:25:00
Few more days?
I still don't understand it.
I've been hearing that "I'll leave for good now" (this is not a quote) from you, you've disappeared for a few weeks, now you're posting again, still telling us that there are just a few more days left...
It seems like stop smoking to me... "One more cigarette, I'll stop after this one..."
You come here, post something, but you say that we can "feel free to ignore" you, and we can doubt that you will stay here etc...
Until now, you've been leaving (means stopped posting), and you've been coming back again.
You said this place is lost, so you why don't you finally jump off this train which goes to hell?

 - Alhexx
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sad Jari on 2005-06-15 11:39:30
Few more days... you'll see.

But hey, thanks for making it easier.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Qhimm on 2005-06-15 13:34:33
Quote from: RPGillespie
Hey, you can type any name for youarelame.com, I didn't make that site (They weren't my insults :wink:). I was going to butter up Qhimm by posting a link to qhimm.youaremyfriend.com but for some reason taht site was discontinued.

Not that it would have made any difference, since I'm included in the target audience of your first link anyway.

Quote from: RPGillespie
Do you want to go to MIT, Nori, since you live in MA?

You're literally trying to dilute the topic, aren't you?

I'm quite close to banning everyone on the forums who annoy me. The only reason I haven't already is that I stick to some outdated principles of giving everybody at least one chance, but you'll be glad to know I'm being rapidly pushed towards the edge (also, quite a bunch of you have already demonstrated quite clearly what you're doing with your chance). Don't want to be banned? Then don't be an idiot, it's that simple.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Alhexx on 2005-06-15 16:52:26
I have just been browsing through the general forum, and I have found a topic from 24 July 2001, and let me quote the post of the message starter here:

Quote from: Edea
I hope this isn't a dumb question but can anyone tell me what spamming is?

I get the strange feeling that maybe I shouldn't be here if I know nothing about computers and such. None of my posts are ever technical. Is that okay or not? Not that I don't like it here I just don't wanna make anybody mad like Qhimm or anyone. Tell me what I should do!


I think that is a quote that REALLY fits into this topic after what has been posted here...

If you need any more info, click here. (http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?p=57362)

 - Alhexx
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Bunnie-Maru on 2005-06-15 19:21:01
I know Im not the model poster, but I do have an idea,

The rules need to be more accessible/open/obvious/displayed, however which way you want to slice it.

I mentioned in the rules thread about possibly adding the No Illegal links rule to the list, since it wasn't on there. The average joe isn't going to go through each forum, checking for rules (Hell, they dont even check the original rule thread most of the time).

The rules need to be put out there more, specificly: maybe right at the very top of the thread list, sort of like in Game Tweaking. But not the forum rules, the entire rules for EVERY forum.

That way, as soon as they go into the General and Unrelated Forums (That's where most of the new members go right away probally), they are FORCED to see the rule thread, there is no excuse.

I know the rules are posted. Hell, it shouldn't have to be done, people should go to the rules thread and what not and find out the rules before they post.

But they're not.

Im not expecting it to solve all the problems, but it's a step, and it wouldnt hurt. Just a sticky perhaps of the rules thread in General and Unrelated.

Worth a shot, right?  :-?
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Alhexx on 2005-06-15 19:34:39
Quote from: Bunnie-Maru
That way, as soon as they go into the General and Unrelated Forums (That's where most of the new members go right away probally), they are FORCED to see the rule thread, there is no excuse.


Yes, they would be forced to see it, however we cannot force them to read it - that's the problem.
Do you think that if there was a topic called "Forum rules - read before posting", someone would read it?
Well, I would, you would, and many other people, too.
However, those members, who cause the trouble in here would not read it... the ones who are willing to read the rules, mostly wouldn't break them even if they hadn't read the rules (except too big avatars or things like that)

Well, we'll see what the future will bring to us - maybe there will even some "intelligent" members join us...

 - Alhexx
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: corpse on 2005-06-15 20:45:59
on fangames forum the rules appear after you login, you have select you agree before you're allowed to procede. I know this gets abit annoying every time. But perhaps it can be set up for first time users
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-16 00:15:13
Quote from: Qhimm
Not that it would have made any difference, since I'm included in the target audience of your first link anyway.


Oh it would've made a difference, that music and such friendly words... Ho man, it would've brought tears to your eyes. Are you really an RPGillespie hater? I mean I know the Admin imposter thing was really, really, bad, but other than that what did I do? I've tryed to be helpful on the forums, and if you've noticed, I usually double check my posts to make sure they are grammatically correct, etc.


Quote from: Qhimm

You're literally trying to dilute the topic, aren't you?

Quote from: Nori
*Sigh* Kind words can be short and easy to speak, but their echoes are truly endless - M.T

Just following Nori's advice...

Quote from: MOYB
Few more days... you don't have to worry about me after that.

Worry about you after what? Few more days until what?  Qhimm, I'd start worrying If I were you, sounds like he is going to do 'something' before his big exit.

RPGillespie[/i]
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Bunnie-Maru on 2005-06-16 00:41:35
Quote from: RPGillespie
Qhimm, I'd start worrying If I were you, sounds like he is going to do 'something' before his big exit.


Reminds me of the guy in the background during action movies. You know, the main villain's goon, boosting up his ego until finally the villain gets sick of his annoying banter and finally kills off the guy.

Ricochet's a good example  -_-
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-16 03:27:53
Hmm, whatever he does, it usually has some entertainment value that can be derived from it... Although if its destructuve, qhimm may not like it too much...
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Bunnie-Maru on 2005-06-16 03:42:15
I was referring to you.

For some reason, you seem to be trying to impress people, trying to be funny, likeable. Really since the talk about new mods has been going on.

Maybe its me, but it seems like you're trying way too hard to put yourself out there as a likeable, fun guy, and it's almost irritating.  :-?

Not trying to flame or start a fight, but just take it easy there, be yourself.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-16 04:10:29
Qhimm is a villian? Makes sense, jk, well, I'm going back to Game tweaking...

RPGillespie

[Edit] Sigh, Its hard to get a good reputation back, once you've flushed it down the toilet... I was just... well, you know  :wink:
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Alhexx on 2005-06-16 15:27:08
Quote from: RPGillespie
Qhimm, I'd start worrying If I were you, sounds like he is going to do 'something' before his big exit.


No, he's not.

 - Alhexx

 - edit -
I'm not sure if you think so, too, Qhimm, but as I see it, this thread has gone off-topic from that "mod-casting" issue...
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sukaeto on 2005-06-16 16:31:09
*sigh*

. . . I used to love this forum.  When every other web forum I was exposed to annoyed and disgusted me, there was always Qhimm.com . . .

. . . Then again, that was back when we used to discuss things like our box's Specs in the age topic.  Everyone was sensible and interesting to listen to (read).


Now, I just see posts like this, that piss me off to the extreme:

Quote from: Markishness
I like DEATHBERRY! :wicked:

It's jet black and has little skull-shaped berries in it.

Yum, yum :wicked:

P.S. Dark Chocolate and Mint Chocolate chip come in 2nd because I usually get them; my local ice cream store doesn't serve deathberry.


See, I have no patience whatsoever for this kind of spam.  You're lucky I'm not the admin here, because you would've been banned for that.

. . . and RPG, honestly, I would've banned you for the whole "Admin imposter" thing . . . you have alot of nerve asking to be a moderator.

I'm going to stop now . . . no use complaining . . .

Anyway, Qhimm, good luck with the board.  I'm terribly sorry to see your once glorious site destroyed by newbish retards.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: James Pond on 2005-06-16 21:07:04
Technically I shouldn't be posting here. I guess im one of those 2 people you named...
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-17 00:07:44
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. . . and RPG, honestly, I would've banned you for the whole "Admin imposter" thing . . . you have alot of nerve asking to be a moderator.
well, it wasn't in the forum rules... Although I suspect it was a tacit agreement between qhimm and the members. Hey it was worth a shot, but Qhimm, just out of sheer curiousity, would you have made me a mod had I not done the Oil is gay intro or the Admin imposter?
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Aaron on 2005-06-17 00:17:34
Quote from: Qhimm
For the record, I'd never, ever entrust as much as a trashbin to someone who hasn't even seen what the forums used to be. How the hell do you expect to be able to uphold ideals if you think the last year is how the forums are supposed to be?

Somehow, I doubt it.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Bunnie-Maru on 2005-06-17 00:45:47
Quote from: RPGillespie
well, it wasn't in the forum rules...


Oh come on, does every little rule need to be explained? Come on now, thats just looking for loop holes. You go around in the real world, impersonating people you aren't (and poorly at that), its called fraud.

No, it wasnt in the forum rules, it's the law. And even at that, it's common sense. You don't run around impersonating people and trying to pass it off as the real thing.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: RPGillespie on 2005-06-17 04:07:30
Like I said, it was a tacit agreement. I know I shouldn't have and I've apologized time and time again so... "quit being mad at me and just love me again -- Dr. Phil"
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: James Pond on 2005-06-17 08:44:00
An agreement for what exactly?
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Caddberry on 2005-06-19 00:56:03
Jesus Christ .. Jari is still here?

Jari what the hell are you doing here? Honestly.. I thought you were leaving and blah blah blah..

Jari I've never had a problem with you.. I still dont.. But if you say you are going to leave then get the fuck out and quit annoying people.

I was just talking to this guy about how nice of a community this was.. Well until this thread I guess we were doing decently..

I don't feel that I'd be a good moderator here.. I think a good moderator should check the forums much more than I visit here.

Qhimm you know about how often I show up here.. If that doesnt bother you then I will help moderate.. I've already been moderating a huge mess of a forum for over a year now. ~_^Actually, I'm an admin there..

If I were you .. I'd make your moderator staff global, and ban whoever else is pissing you off at the moment.

It's your community.. I miss the old community too. I miss the nice Jari, and fice.. All the technical talk and M$ bashing.. Ha.. and Joey bashing.. Ok.. Well I wont go as far to say that I miss joey, but my point is .. Do what you have to do.

Do what you want to do.

As Bob Ross would say.. If you want a happy little tree there put one there..

edit

Jari.. I'm confused.. Perhaps its because of my absence from this forum, but what exactly is your uh.. plan? Staying? Going?
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sad Jari on 2005-06-19 11:17:47
Well, if it ain't the junkie himself.

You sure bitch a lot, considering that you "don't have a problem with me", don't you?

But whatever, I can give as good as I get...

Quote from: Caddberry
Qhimm you know about how often I show up here.. If that doesnt bother you then I will help moderate.. I've already been moderating a huge mess of a forum for over a year now. ~_^Actually, I'm an admin there..

That truly is a rather accurate description of it.

Quote from: Caddberry
Jari.. I'm confused.. Perhaps its because of my absence from this forum, but what exactly is your uh.. plan? Staying? Going?

Oh, it would seem that I'll stay, just because it pisses you off.

Or did you mean seriously? Do you really think that I would stay in a forum you moderate?


EDIT: PS. Hey Qhimm, thanks for adding insult to injury. I knew you could do it, if you really tried. :) Go ahead, make the freakboy mod too, I know you want to. :lol:
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Qhimm on 2005-06-19 12:52:10
Quote from: Monkey on your back
EDIT: PS. Hey Qhimm, thanks for adding insult to injury. I knew you could do it, if you really tried. :) Go ahead, make the freakboy mod too, I know you want to. :lol:

Yeah, I do these things explicitly to piss you off, you know. Thanks for noticing. ;)

If you and Caddberry have a problem that affects his judgment as moderator negatively, he'll be relieved. It's that simple, for you or for any other user/moderator. Seriously, please don't go looking for insults in what I do; I'm just trying to get some structure back here, and for the time being I need more active admins/moderators to cover for me until I can get my own plans working.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sad Jari on 2005-06-19 13:43:00
I don't have to look for them.

*sigh* Yes, I came back to have fun at Alhexx' expense, who appeared to be really eager for more power.

Then I decided to offer a freaking olive branch (http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=4241), despite that it was you who lied to everyone, in order to make me lose my face and appear like I had lied. (Yeah, it hurts when someone you have known for several years and a person you considered to be your friend, does it. It hurts a lot. There is nothing worse you could have done to me.)

I was never planning to stay, as you understand the word. I just wanted to make a peace offering to part in better terms.

But whatever. I see that I was wrong. I should have understood from the first time.

Have it your way.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Qhimm on 2005-06-19 14:14:21
Call me stupid (and I suppose you will), but I've yet to find anything I lied about, or anything I said to make you appear like a liar. If I did, then please tell so clearly here for all to see, because I don't want something like that to be hidden and not apologized for. I know of no one else here who sees you as a liar either. I didn't want to attack your argument back then, nor did I have any quarrel with it, apart from the fact that you and that other guy were starting to affect more of the forum than was necessary. At least give me something I can honestly apologize for, for christ's sake. If I'm going to feel like an ass for hurting my friend, then at least I want to know precisely what I should regret.

All I know I did was point out the fact that at one point in time, you resigned from being a moderator, and gave both of you a warning for disrupting other topics. I should have asked you again in private, but I wanted to publically promote fair and civilized discussion... never publically deny your authority in the community. It wasn't meant as an attack on your person, nor on the validity of your argument, and I didn't know it would come out that way and you would take it so badly. I'm sorry.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: bulk_4me on 2005-06-19 20:40:30
If you are looking for a Mod, I have experience. I am a Moderator @ BWHacks (http://www.bwhacks.com/) we deal with floods of newbies on regular basis.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: EmperorSteele on 2005-06-20 00:55:02
....

Someone didn't read the entire first page =P

Seriously, not to put words in qhimm's mouth, or claim that i know a lot about him, but, well, given that you're relativly new, i think you getting moded is a rather unlikely proposition at this point.  Silly human.

I mean hey, -i- have modding experience on forums, AND i've been here a while, but I don't have the gaul to ask to be modded...

But what do I know, right? =P

//probably shoulda not even said anything
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sad Jari on 2005-06-20 05:43:01
I believe that your exact words (to me) were: "You are not a moderator".

Fair enough, I'm not - and was not - in practice. Unfortunately I had claimed otherwise - which also was true - in an argument. If it weren't for that argument, I wouldn't have minded at all.

You took your high and mighty position, lied to make me lose my face, lose the argument and appear as if I had lied.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: bulk_4me on 2005-06-20 07:07:49
Quote from: EmperorSteele
....

Someone didn't read the entire first page =P

Seriously, not to put words in qhimm's mouth, or claim that i know a lot about him, but, well, given that you're relativly new, i think you getting moded is a rather unlikely proposition at this point.  Silly human.

I mean hey, -i- have modding experience on forums, AND i've been here a while, but I don't have the gaul to ask to be modded...

But what do I know, right? =P

//probably shoulda not even said anything

The amount of time you've been in the forums is far from being a critical factor, that's like saying "I am l33t because my post count is bigger than yours". Also I'm talking about a 500+ daily posts forum.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: L. Spiro on 2005-06-20 07:54:37
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The amount of time you've been in the forums is far from being a critical factor


No, actually it’s one of the most critical.
As Qhimm already specifically stated, if you weren’t here to see the old days, how things were, how the site was run, and what is expected if we are to get back into that type of forum-style (it’s like lifestyle, only in this case the forum is the life!), then you can’t be a moderator.

I’m not saying you aren’t competent for the job; I know you are a contributing member who seems to have a decent head, mature, etc.  No one has ever complained about you.
But “being around for a long time” isn’t as linear as post count.
Look at how long I’ve been here and then look at my post count.

“Being around for a long time” involves seeing how the site was, knowing how this site was specifically run, and being able to compare how it was then to how it is today.


I am sure you do a fine job on your other forum (where I may even post my project), but different forums are run in different ways and by a different set of standards.
It may be true that you have a lot of what it takes to be a good moderator, but you’re only half way there.

Proving yourself stable, reliable, responsible, and forum-knowledgeable is of course expected of any moderator, generally for any forum.
But when we get down to forums that go past the general forum standard and into their own social standards, this is where you, as a moderator, would also be expected to have more than general moderating experience.

I am not trying to speak FOR Qhimm, but rather I am breaking down what he already said that you may have missed:
Quote from: Qhimm
For the record, I'd never, ever entrust as much as a trashbin to someone who hasn't even seen what the forums used to be. How the hell do you expect to be able to uphold ideals if you think the last year is how the forums are supposed to be? Sure you could read a few old topics, but most of the signature topics are long sinced purged, and when you do find a good topic, most likely you're just sitting and thinking "gee, I wish I could talk like that". I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you don't have any purpose to post other than "it's fun", "it's a friend", "I've got nothing better to do", etc., then keep your fingers off your keyboard or I'll physically come over there and shove it up you.


This is what EmperorSteele wanted you to read.


L. Spiro
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: bulk_4me on 2005-06-20 17:08:59
Yeah, I probably misunderstood that, anyway I'll drop my case here... hopefully I'll be the New Apprentince :lol:
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Qhimm on 2005-06-20 17:15:21
Quote from: Monkey on your back
I believe that your exact words (to me) were: "You are not a moderator".

Fair enough, I'm not - and was not - in practice. Unfortunately I had claimed otherwise - which also was true - in an argument. If it weren't for that argument, I wouldn't have minded at all.

You took your high and mighty position, lied to make me lose my face, lose the argument and appear as if I had lied.

What should I have done then in order to not destroy our friendship? Lie for your sake? Agree and say you were a moderator, even though you had resigned long before? Make it appear like I support members taking the law into their own hands to hunt down newbies? In principle and practice you were not a moderator, not of that forum or of any of the other forums, apart from an honorary moderator position of the Administration forum, to which you were appointed pretty damn nearly against your will after your resignation. I would say that "you are not a moderator" was perhaps not the complete truth (since you still had a great deal of influence, and still do), but it was far closer to it than your argument was. But I didn't post in that thread in order to counter your arguments, I posted in order to stop the flame flood raging through the forums. You were becoming what we used to ban instantly in the old days, rapidly burning up your good reputation in the community. You'll probably laugh and not believe me, but stopping that fight was also motivated by wanting to preserve your image.

Had I known doing what I did would cost me our friendship, would I still have done it? No. Hell no. I thought I was doing the right thing for the community. It turned out not to be, and I regret it deeply. I tried to take the moral high ground, but the ends didn't justify the means. I'm sorry.

But for the record, you didn't lose your argument, everyone that matters agreed with your basic principles, and no one would have thought any less of you if you had just backed off the argument at that point. You would have been the winner regardless, having made your point and since no one likes people trying to sneak in the last word after an argument (thus his rather quick ban after that). I even remembered you saying proudly during an earlier, similarly heated debate, something to the effect of "if the moderators feel I'm going too far, they can give me a warning and I'll quietly back down". That was what I was hoping would happen; things would quiet down and people could get back to agreeing with you both in principle and in practice.


Quote from: bulk_4me
Yeah, I probably misunderstood that, anyway I'll drop my case here.

Actually, bulk_4me is probably higher up on my consideration list than most members. Not that he's seen the old days, but he's at least shown that he can post sensibly and contribute to the forums. While your time with the forums do rate highly, those two qualities do so too. The text quoted by L.Spiro is important though, because I won't let someone moderate who can't represent the ideals we strive for.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sad Jari on 2005-06-22 21:01:30
Different wording, for example?

"You are not moderator of this forum" would have carried the same idea, yet would not have directly countered my argument.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Caddberry on 2005-06-23 01:10:28
Quote from: Monkey on your back
Well, if it ain't the junkie himself.


Yes, the Junkie Chess Master second to Nori at your service.

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Quote from: Caddberry
Qhimm you know about how often I show up here.. If that doesnt bother you then I will help moderate.. I've already been moderating a huge mess of a forum for over a year now. ~_^Actually, I'm an admin there..

That truly is a rather accurate description of it.


.. Yeah.. I dont really know what you are saying here.. That I dont show up enough to moderate this board, or if you are insulting AnimeNfo, but I dont think you should speak ill of a community you know nothing about. The only reason I called it a mess was because it's insanely active with things to do constantly.

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Quote from: Caddberry
Jari.. I'm confused.. Perhaps its because of my absence from this forum, but what exactly is your uh.. plan? Staying? Going?

Oh, it would seem that I'll stay, just because it pisses you off.


Your presence doesnt piss me off. I dont really care. I liked and respected you when you were here before. I don't really get pissed off over things people say to me online when they dont even know me.

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Or did you mean seriously? Do you really think that I would stay in a forum you moderate?


You wont stay in a forum that I moderate? Well.. I'm a moderator of this one. I imagine that you will eat those words since you can't seem to get enough of this community, and I am staff now.

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EDIT: PS. Hey Qhimm, thanks for adding insult to injury. I knew you could do it, if you really tried. :) Go ahead, make the freakboy mod too, I know you want to. :lol:


I don't really see how my becoming a moderator here insults you. Do you feel that I lack the intelligence to be a moderator? An Administrator? Well.. Whatever.. I suppose it doesnt really matter anyway.

As far as my bitching about your still being here.. I really wasn't. I was more or less just curious as to why you were still here when you claimed to be going away forever.

Jari, I wouldnt mind if you stayed here forever. I wasn't meaning to pick a fight or anything. I just thought after all that work you did to clear yourself from this place what were you doing back here again?
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Qhimm on 2005-06-23 02:27:42
Quote from: Monkey on your back
Different wording, for example?

"You are not moderator of this forum" would have carried the same idea, yet would not have directly countered my argument.

I suppose it would have, yes. I apologize for my bad choice of words.

Quote from: Caddberry
You wont stay in a forum that I moderate? Well.. I'm a moderator of this one.

Heh, the irony. Caddberry, to be precise you are not a moderator of this forum. :) </bad joke>

Anyway, for the record, I'm pretty inclined to let the new forums, when they're ready, start from a blank slate; not carrying over the crap from these forums, only storing current content in an archive. Part of the problem today is that new members see slightly less new members post a load of crap (that hasn't been cleaned out yet), and so think it's okay to do shit like that.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Sad Jari on 2005-06-23 19:18:12
Quote from: Caddberry
Yes, the Junkie Chess Master second to Nori at your service.

You must be pissed that the custom title went byebye. :lol:

Quote from: Caddberry
.. Yeah.. I dont really know what you are saying here.. That I dont show up enough to moderate this board, or if you are insulting AnimeNfo, but I dont think you should speak ill of a community you know nothing about. The only reason I called it a mess was because it's insanely active with things to do constantly.

Latter, but the former is true, too.

Gee, you assume a lot about what I know and don't know. :)

Quote from: Caddberry
Your presence doesnt piss me off. I dont really care. I liked and respected you when you were here before. I don't really get pissed off over things people say to me online when they dont even know me.

So, you just sound like you are pissed off. Okay, fair enough.

Quote from: Caddberry
You wont stay in a forum that I moderate? Well.. I'm a moderator of this one. I imagine that you will eat those words since you can't seem to get enough of this community, and I am staff now.

Oh, I think that you won't be a moderator for long, if you keep your current pace up. :)

Quote from: Caddberry
I don't really see how my becoming a moderator here insults you. Do you feel that I lack the intelligence to be a moderator? An Administrator? Well.. Whatever.. I suppose it doesnt really matter anyway.

Let's see;

Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Caddberry on 2005-06-26 02:01:34
Quote from: Monkey on your back
Oh, I think that you won't be a moderator for long, if you keep your current pace up. :)


If that is Qhimm's choice so be it. Until then, I'll moderate to the best of my ability.

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you seldom visit, leading to things like this (http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=4225). Now tell me, what exactly was the point of closing the thread... after it had died down on its own?


It died down. Not died. I locked it because I felt it should have been.

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you lack common sense (http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=4259)


Well.. I thought people here might enjoy that and have questions about it if they couldn't get it to work so I posted it. I wouldn't say that someone lacks common sense because of that. The thread could have turned into a chat on Anime Music on top of the whole radio basis.  

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you have stated yourself that you don't really remember much about the Rubicant incident, because you were so stoned. Clearly a good attribute for a moderator.


I dont remember much because I honestly didnt care much.

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animenfo general forum is a horrible mess.


We like it to be a mess so we leave it that way.

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Combine all that with the fact you obviously have a beef with me and have had ever since the Rubicant incident.... that would make me see your appointment as a personal insult, rather than a smart choice for moderation.


I haven't had any problems with you since the Rubicant issue. We even had quite a few decent chats after that whole thing. I may not have agreed with you on the Rubicant thing, but as I recall as more came to light I understood more of where you were coming from. After that I respected your opinion on that issue. That's the truth. Jari I never hated you, or had a problem with you.

As for my 'bitching' I thought you were leaving, and after everthing you went to to leave I was confused.

I think it's cool you want to help set up forum rules or throw out ideas to improve it. You are a smart person, and I've never said otherwise.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: crimsondante on 2005-08-09 16:39:16
hehe....uh oh...i've been ratted out, oh well,
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Flash on 2005-08-09 21:18:40
This thread seems to have been resurrected from the dead.

If it makes the administration feel any better, know that past a certain point, there really isn't much you can do.  I work as a Moderator on a php forum with over 3000 members, so I can attest to that fact first-hand.

As any population grows, the influx of less-than-desirable users increases.  In the beginning, it was relatively quiet and close-knit such as this forum, but as time went on, the sheer logistics of keeping things orderly became a nightmare.  I'd be more than willing to say that once you reach a certain point, it's more or less logistically impossible to keep everything in order.  And while under an ideal population there shouldn't even be a need for moderators, I assume it to be common-sense that such an ideal will never be reached.  Even with dozens of staff, there's still regular problems that pop up on an all too frequent basis.

Just be thankful you aren't to the point where people try to use security exploits and other methods against you.  And let me just say it looks like the staff here is doing a fine job.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: dramamamaindistress on 2005-08-31 22:26:22
Ok I know i've only been a member for a short time but i admit i messed up already, but i think you should talk to James Pond because he's been like teaching me the rules and stuff. I don't really know how this works but I nominate James Pond to be a moderator. (if it helps.)
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: James Pond on 2005-08-31 22:27:52
Haha, Thanks for the nomination, But there's no chance of that happening >_>
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Simon on 2005-10-21 01:45:41
I wouldn't be a moderator because I just am not active enough, but yes this forum has gone down hill and I rarely visit anymore. I do miss the old school days.
Title: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Alhexx on 2005-10-21 10:38:51
Quote from: Forum Rules
Don't resurrect old topics. When people stop posting in a topic, it's usually a sign that everything of value has been said. Thus, if nobody's posted in a topic for more than a week or two, consider it dead and don't post in it (unless you have an important follow-up or question exactly on-topic, and the topic is still recent). If you post just a comment on something somebody said ... chances are no-one will care because it's been a while since everything was posted.


 - Alhexx
Title: In other news serious
Post by: JaapK-NL on 2009-06-24 05:54:45
Mod Edit: Removed spam-bot message
Title: Re: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-25 08:39:38
seriously! when is a mod going to take this down?!
Title: Re: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-06-25 08:52:47
seriously! when is a mod going to take this down?!

It's becoming increasingly apparent that no-one really cares any more. What's ironic is that it's in a thread where this issue is addressed by Alhexx (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=4219.msg57263#msg57263). Four years on and we still have the same problem; in fact, the problem is even worse
Title: Re: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-25 08:58:57
...
this is depressing really.
Title: Re: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-06-25 09:02:03
...
this is depressing really.


It certainly is, and I can see why Mr Adults and koral left. I've been here 9 months, and for most of that time the forums have got by quite well without much moderation. However, recent events have shown that there really does need to be more order around here, and mod powers need to be given to people who are still regular contributors to projects.
Title: Re: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-25 09:08:26
Indeed.
It saddens me to such lengths..
God, this place needs order!
All my friends here are starting to leave..
:(
Title: Re: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-06-25 09:11:29
Indeed.
It saddens me to such lengths..
God, this place needs order!
All my friends here are starting to leave..
:(

Well, you're certainly not the only one who feels that way.

It's understandable that the older members on these forums can't spend as much time here as they used to; presumably most of them have jobs and/or families.

It's not understandable that none of the people who are still active here have been made mods in order to replace the people that, for whatever reason, don't come here very often
Title: Re: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Yuffie_Lover on 2009-06-25 09:14:54
I agree.
We need a new set of mods..
Maybe.
But, it seems Qhimm has left us as well..
:S..
Title: Re: In other news... (serious)
Post by: obesebear on 2009-06-25 13:56:48
Qhimm is still around according to his "last active" status.  Though I'm not sure who here he would give moderation powers.  There's halkun and alhexxx I think.  And El Ammo used to be if memory serves correct.
Title: Re: In other news... (serious)
Post by: Jari on 2009-06-25 14:10:43
Yeah.

halkun is the moderator for Tech-related and Q-Gears, I'm pretty sure he has no global moderator privileges. Alhexx is a global mod. Mesden and jack.o.lantern are mods for FF7Voice.

Qhimm and SaiNt visit, if there's a real reason for it. If someone notifies them about a problem - often that someone is me. And yeah, before someone says something; they knew. No point in going that route. Aaron doesn't really visit anymore.

Yeah, I've been a mod. Other ex-mods... I'm not sure if any are present.
Title: Re: In other news... (serious)
Post by: seifertemp on 2009-08-06 21:53:00
In other news.  Ammo is back to baiting people and then laughing with impunity.