Author Topic: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods and Modding Framework-The Reunion [R06f]  (Read 3007702 times)

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1225 on: 2015-04-16 06:01:07 »
Hey, Oh-so-wise > Hey, oh-so-wise (tin_1)

I found a mistake ;)

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1226 on: 2015-04-16 08:12:54 »
DLPB I have other doubt, in the Gonjun2, where Leno and Rude are talking about girls.
There are the texts:

---TEXT007---
Leno
“O-oh…”
---TEXT008---
Leno
“So we're in the same boat,eh?
  Like we even have a chance with them…”


In japanese is some different:
レノ
「な、なるほど……と」
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レノ
「つらいところだな、あんたも」

In japanese the meaning is different. Especially, the text 8 which says something about "is a hard cuestion".

Regards.

I'm not sure where you're getting "question" from, a less localized translation would be something like "So you're in a tough spot too", he's empathising with Rude and his one-way attraction to Tifa.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1227 on: 2015-04-16 13:49:54 »
Good, no problem. I am almost done with the PSX port and I'll keep you updated.

Regards

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1228 on: 2015-04-17 00:12:13 »

Initial work layout.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1229 on: 2015-04-18 02:46:18 »
I have a problem with Beacause: it installed properly and mostly works, but the multiple dialogue options don't show up. Has this come up before?

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« Reply #1230 on: 2015-04-18 02:55:02 »
I have a problem with Beacause: it installed properly and mostly works, but the multiple dialogue options don't show up. Has this come up before?

No.  Assuming you are using the new Reunion and on clean files, it will work fine. Can you be more specific?

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1231 on: 2015-04-18 03:10:30 »
No.  Assuming you are using the new Reunion and on clean files, it will work fine. Can you be more specific?

Whenever I get a multiple choice box it comes up blank, like this: http://imgur.com/mpnzIu1
All the other dialogue boxes are fine and I can press the accept button to make a choice to move forward, but I can't see the choices. This is the only problem I have. When I remove the mod with the installer everything works fine again, but reinstalling doesn't fix the problem . Beacause is the only thing I've installed to my game.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1232 on: 2015-04-18 03:18:28 »
Something has gone very wrong for that to happen.  Read the readme and main post here and see if you've missed something.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1233 on: 2015-04-18 21:07:59 »
I haven't seen you on IRC at the same time as me lately, or I'd have poked you about this there since this is very much a minor thing. But I was wondering if it would be possible to have a patch to return Chocobokkle to its Japanese damage calculation (escapes*level, instead of just escapes). This seems like it'd be the sort of thing that would fit in with Reunion, and it just kind of would be a neat change in general, imo.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1234 on: 2015-04-19 02:59:29 »
I never knew that was different in Japanese game.  It can be restored, problem is Reunion works on much smaller HP and damage pool, so it would become too powerful.  I suspect the reason it was removed after original Japanese is because even 100 escapes with a level 30  is far too powerful.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1235 on: 2015-04-19 08:43:02 »
Yeah, but the problem is that it was kind of nerfed hard in the other direction by making it just the number of escapes. Maybe a compromise?

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1236 on: 2015-04-19 17:01:01 »
Yeah, but the problem is that it was kind of nerfed hard in the other direction by making it just the number of escapes. Maybe a compromise?

The balance is completely different in Weapon.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1237 on: 2015-04-19 21:10:10 »
Everything works perfectly and I can make selections but I still can't *see* any of the choices :c
so basically it's the flevel file; I swapped it out with the unmodified version and the boxes are back to normal. Is there a prepatched flevel.lgp around I can swap out or does it rely on another series of codes and files (I don't know anything about programming :c)? The installer isn't doing the trick..
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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1238 on: 2015-04-21 02:48:35 »
couple questions not answered in the readme
1. does the installer allow me to select which mods i want to install?
2. if i only install the re translation, will it muck up Steam achievements? 
3. IS there a similar project for ff8?

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1239 on: 2015-04-21 02:50:01 »
1.  See first post and readme
2. No
3. Not that I know of.

@Marsibil
I know of nothing that can cause your issue short of non English files, unoriginal files, previously modded game, or things affecting the installation, such as Antivirus. The problem is not this installer.
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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1240 on: 2015-04-21 03:12:28 »
thanks, also
do you think the translation of ff8 was adequate or should someone do a re translation?
also what does the script fixes for flevel.lgp do?
should i uninstall and reinstall with that option selected?
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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1241 on: 2015-04-21 11:01:54 »
Again, see the readme.

FF8 was reasonable (but much better localized than FF7), but still had a ton of mistakes.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1242 on: 2015-04-23 00:41:27 »
Dan, which files inside of the world_us.lgp does Beacause modify?

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1243 on: 2015-04-23 00:54:01 »
Dan, which files inside of the world_us.lgp does Beacause modify?

the ev files, which hold the text box sizes and X Y positions (Only 2 of the 3 ev files are edited, since they are the Great Glacier and Overworld) and "mes", which holds the text.  Both are edited by touphScript.  Originally, you had to edit these with hex editor.

Note, the Great Glacier only has one text from what I remember (The "I'll leave a landmark and start walking" one).

We do not yet have a proper World Map editor like Makou, so the exact nature of how it all works is still not easy to see for the ordinary modder.  Pretty sure Aali has a good idea.
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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1244 on: 2015-04-23 06:08:49 »
I tried installing numerous times and it still has the same problem, it's only issue and I haven't modded it with anything else. Does Beacause simply not work on the Steam version? Is there an older version I can use?

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1245 on: 2015-04-23 07:31:32 »
I tried installing numerous times and it still has the same problem, it's only issue and I haven't modded it with anything else. Does Beacause simply not work on the Steam version? Is there an older version I can use?

The Reunion is only compatible with 1998 English and Steam English versions
( that's from 1st post )

I think your problem here concerns the Menu Overhaul. Maybe try with a fresh install of the game ?

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1246 on: 2015-04-23 13:51:09 »
MO won't install on Steam if Steam option is selected.  I am not sure what it would take for the option dialogues to be specifically ruined.  Likely some issue with touphScript encoding.... or some other issue with the files.  Either way, there is something the user has done wrong. If this was an issue from my side, this would have come up a dozen times already.

I am guessing that Beacause hasn't installed at all really... and that the dialogue boxes are not the only issue.
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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1247 on: 2015-04-24 04:10:50 »
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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1248 on: 2015-04-24 06:07:42 »
MO won't install on Steam if Steam option is selected.  I am not sure what it would take for the option dialogues to be specifically ruined.  Likely some issue with touphScript encoding.... or some other issue with the files.  Either way, there is something the user has done wrong. If this was an issue from my side, this would have come up a dozen times already.

I am guessing that Beacause hasn't installed at all really... and that the dialogue boxes are not the only issue.

It did install and all the text in the game is updated; the item and materia descriptions, the dialogue, and all the menus work fine. I got up to meeting Aerith and that's when the problem first showed up; I can move the cursor and make a selection, but all you see is an empty box like in the image I uploaded.
I used black chocobo to skip to a variety of places and test it in other parts of the game, like in the Chocobo farm where Grean asks if I'm crossing the marshes and mentions the Midgardsormr, and in the flashback in Niblheim where you can get the 'slightly stretched underwear'... everything works except I just can't *see* the dialogue options. It's playable but very frustrating like this >_<

That was the steam version, now I tried it on the 98 version today and I got the *exact* same problem! It isn't modded either (an accurate translation is the only mod I'm really interested in at the moment), these are the original CDs I bought at a pawn shop. Is the Menu overhaul a requirement for Beacause? I'm quite certain that none of my antivirus software is blocking anything, and I tried running as admin as well. .. I can't understand this :c

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1249 on: 2015-04-24 06:17:02 »
No, it isn't.  Beacause works fine on Steam version and has been play tested by others. Your issue is baffling and seems to be a consequence of something interfering with the encoding process.  Interfering with touphScript.  Or a bug with ts of some sort.

Re-run the installer but at the end, do not close it.

Navigate to the root folder and enter dlpb-mods

Find the touphscript log and tell me what it says.  In fact, tell me what ALL the logs in the dlpb-mods folder say.  Dlpb-mods will only exist when you run the installer and let it finish but again... do NOT close the installer at the end.

Also, please upload flevel.lgp from your game folder, so I can look at what's going on.

Oh, and if this turns out to be a fault that could have been fixed by reading the readme, I am going to murder you by putting my hands around your neck and removing your air supply.
:)
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