Author Topic: [FF7PC-98] The Reunion (OLD THREAD, SAVED FOR POSTERITY) (Read 1260866 times)

Vgr · « **Reply #750 on:** 2011-10-19 14:31:31 »

Here's a thing worth of note :

The retranslation won't work on the Aeris Revival and/or Hardcore mods.

I'd like to have an independant installer for the Retranslation... soon...

DLPB_ · « **Reply #751 on:** 2011-10-19 14:46:53 »

There is no point in a separate installer for Re-translation when all you are doing is ticking a box or not inside this installer. It also makes my job 100% harder and won't be happening.

This project should work with those other mods. What happens when you use this installer with them? How does it "not work"? I will be trying to fix this.

Also M004a is uploaded.

Vgr · « **Reply #752 on:** 2011-10-19 14:50:04 »

The Re-Translation installer got stuck in the same place and had to use the Task Manager to exit it.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #753 on:** 2011-10-19 14:50:39 »

What was the action? "Encoding flevel" ?

Vgr · « **Reply #754 on:** 2011-10-19 14:55:14 »

Noticed nothing... Was stuck in the screen where it says to be patient. Also, the log.txt in the data folder has a lot of errors like "Too few text entries". Also it never encoded the flevel, while the text got dumped...

DLPB_ · « **Reply #755 on:** 2011-10-19 14:57:27 »

Yeah it is touphscript. With retranslation the files have to be encoded from my list, and if script has been altered in flevel it won't work. Presumably Aerith revival and hardcore mods are changing script in flevel.

There is a way around this, I can skip updating certain files in flevel (obv those would not be translated at all).

Does anyone have a full list of exactly which of the flevel files these 2 mods alter? I will also notify luksy that his program hangs when this is the case.

Vgr · « **Reply #756 on:** 2011-10-19 15:01:21 »

In the Aeris Revival thread... and in the log of the Hardcore patch.

Is it possible for us to force the encode so that it'd encode it non the less? Or is it better for us to change some things for it to encode properly?

DLPB_ · « **Reply #757 on:** 2011-10-19 15:03:30 »

There is no way to force encode, if the person has altered script files to a certain degree in flevel then the retranslation with tS cannot work to edit text in them. It is impossible.

The only way around this for now is to simply skip the affected files, and at the end of the Retranslation project, ship those files separately edited at encode time.

PitBrat · « **Reply #758 on:** 2011-10-19 15:05:26 »

When installing Menu Overhaul on top of the Hardcore Mod, the installer froze during the flevel.lgp modification.
Here is the toughscript log.txt file:

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Error in blue_2
	Too few text entries, new: 1 old: 11
Error in bugin1a
	Too few text entries, new: 52 old: 53
Error in canon_2
	Too few text entries, new: 45 old: 46
Error in chrin_1a
	Too few text entries, new: 25 old: 35
Error in crater_1
	Too few text entries, new: 13 old: 14
Error in crater_2
	Too few text entries, new: 15 old: 16
Error in fr_e
	Too few text entries, new: 17 old: 18
Error in fship_1
	Too few text entries, new: 11 old: 23
Error in fship_2
	Too few text entries, new: 53 old: 54
Error in fship_23
	Too few text entries, new: 108 old: 113
Error in fship_3
	Too few text entries, new: 34 old: 35
Error in gaiafoot
	Too few text entries, new: 16 old: 17
Error in ithos
	Too few text entries, new: 88 old: 93
Error in itown12
	Too few text entries, new: 28 old: 34
Error in itown1a
	Too few text entries, new: 50 old: 52
Error in itown2
	Too few text entries, new: 24 old: 27
Error in junair
	Too few text entries, new: 26 old: 28
Error in las0_8
	Too few text entries, new: 29 old: 31
Error in las2_1
	Too few text entries, new: 35 old: 39
Error in las4_0
	Too few text entries, new: 87 old: 89
Error in las4_1
	Too few text entries, new: 25 old: 28
Error in las4_4
	Too few text entries, new: 10 old: 11
Error in lastmap
	Too few text entries, new: 48 old: 50
Error in md8brdg2
	Too few text entries, new: 18 old: 19
Error in md8_6
	Too few text entries, new: 10 old: 11
Error in mtcrl_2
	Too few text entries, new: 16 old: 18
Error in ncorel2
	Too few text entries, new: 38 old: 40
Error in nivgate
	Too few text entries, new: 47 old: 50
Error in nivl_b12
	Too few text entries, new: 24 old: 26
Error in nivl_b22
	Too few text entries, new: 81 old: 84
Error in rcktin5
	Too few text entries, new: 96 old: 98
Error in rcktin6
	Too few text entries, new: 36 old: 37
Error in semkin_4
	Too few text entries, new: 9 old: 10
Error in semkin_5
	Too few text entries, new: 14 old: 15
Error in semkin_6
	Too few text entries, new: 16 old: 17
Error in subin_1b
	Too few text entries, new: 103 old: 109
Error in subin_3
	Too few text entries, new: 11 old: 12
Error in trnad_1
	Too few text entries, new: 62 old: 64
Error in trnad_4
	Too few text entries, new: 25 old: 26
Error in tunnel_5
	Too few text entries, new: 9 old: 10
Error in ujunon5
	Too few text entries, new: 17 old: 19
Error in zcoal_1
	Too few text entries, new: 18 old: 20
Error in zcoal_3
	Too few text entries, new: 28 old: 31

Aeris Revival replaces all of the scene files, but it only actually makes changes to a few of them.
Ultima Espio said there are 3 scenes that conflict between Hardcore and Revival.
Unfortunately, he didn't mention which 3 scenes . . .

DLPB_ · « **Reply #759 on:** 2011-10-19 15:06:29 »

The problem is as stated above. I need to know exactly which flevel files these mods alter so I can skip them.

That log list you have there is a start.... that might be all of em but id need to know for sure. Also, might be other issues with retranslation.... It is important I get as much feedback on that as possible.

edit:

I will also talk to luksy later tonight and get some sort of check in place so that a. does not crash b. skips problem files.

jinkazama2k7 · « **Reply #760 on:** 2011-10-19 15:42:40 »

Wow.. I can't believe this.. Its now close to perfect

you did a great job DLPB, Thanks

DLPB_ · « **Reply #761 on:** 2011-10-19 15:46:33 »

Note: hardcore mod/aerith revival wont work at all with this installer (even non translation). Use clean flevel in meantime. I will get luksy on this.

PitBrat · « **Reply #762 on:** 2011-10-19 16:54:52 »

The M004a installer worked without the ReTranslation when installing on Hardcore.

I successfully installed:
Vanilla FF7
Hardcore 1.04
M004a (no ReTranslation)

DLPB_ · « **Reply #763 on:** 2011-10-19 17:06:05 »

It may have seemed that way, but believe me tS crashes before it finishes

I will be talking to luksy later about it.

eN7eRaF · « **Reply #764 on:** 2011-10-19 18:15:49 »

dkma841 · « **Reply #765 on:** 2011-10-19 18:33:36 »

Woow the re-translation changed nearly everything some sound pretty weird "mega elixer" i think sounds better than the one now (forgot wwhat it was called) is there anyway i can change certain items names myself? btw great job on this awesome work

DLPB_ · « **Reply #766 on:** 2011-10-19 18:35:10 »

Sure use touphscript or wallmarket

see tools.

Also, I haven't changed everything, I have changed everything back to how it was supposed to be mostly.

dkma841 · « **Reply #767 on:** 2011-10-19 18:40:33 »

lol cant believe i didn't think of that

just a suggestion you should include the toughscript editor included with this menu overhaul

DLPB_ · « **Reply #768 on:** 2011-10-19 18:43:23 »

I do

It uses it to edit the game but leaving it on your comp after installation is a tad poor.

Vgr · « **Reply #769 on:** 2011-10-19 19:20:53 »

eN7eRaF : We cannot see your picture. Please upload it somewhere else.

Roody · « **Reply #770 on:** 2011-10-19 20:43:14 »

I take it i can't use game saves that has hardcore mode in it with out hardcore mod turned on ?

DLPB_ · « **Reply #771 on:** 2011-10-19 20:55:00 »

Of course you can, it just wont be hardcore mod anymore. Wait until the issue is resolved.

eN7eRaF · « **Reply #772 on:** 2011-10-20 01:12:25 »

Quote from: Vgr on 2011-10-19 19:20:53

eN7eRaF : We cannot see your picture. Please upload it somewhere else.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #773 on:** 2011-10-20 01:16:26 »

I do, I have explained it on 2 pages already. Do not use installer with hardcore mod or aerith revival. use CLEAN flevel and clean scene.bin. In fact use clean files. Hardcore mod and aerith will not work with this at all at moment.

DLPB_ · « **Reply #774 on:** 2011-10-20 02:39:00 »

Ok so here are the reasons why the installer hung or crashed with these mods:

1. Hardcore mod has a bug in its flevel code, I have notified author.
2. Hardcore mod has junk data in its kernel2 file which was crashing touphscript, Luksy has programmed ts to clean up these problems.
3. Same issue with Aerith revival kernel2

This was not our installer's error.. it was hardcore and aerith revival.

I have also requested that a few more safety checks happen in touphscript to avoid any hangs or crashes when bad code is encountered in future. I will place M004b up tomorrow.