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Title: Kingdom Hearts Cloud Battle Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-04-04 06:01:11

I pulled the Cloud out of Kingdom Hearts and chopped him up for use like many of you here at this board. But what I wanted to see was an updated version that would look like the original, but with the new details found in Crisis Core's secret ending. If they make a re-make it's probably gonna look like that! Except the difference for me is that I wanted to keep the original hair-do.

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If you want a cool Cloud to download, go to my new
!!!!The APZ Cloud Project!!!! ~*]--(RELEASE!!!)--[*~ (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8035.msg96558#msg96558)
thread here:

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_Trophy.jpg) (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8035.msg96558#msg96558)

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LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING!!!

• This is NOT for release! The pictures are all I can give you legally, Enjoy!
• Please DO NOT PM me about sending this Cloud or Sephiroth model to you to use in FFVIIPC!!!
• Please DO NOT PM me about sending this Cloud or Sephiroth model to you to use in FFVIIPC!!!
• PLEASE DO NOT PM ME ABOUT SENDING THIS CLOUD OR SEPHIROTH MODEL FOR YOU TO USE IN FFVIIPC!!! I won't do it!!!
• PLEASE DO NOT PM ME ABOUT SENDING THIS CLOUD OR SEPHIROTH MODEL FOR YOU TO USE IN FFVIIPC!!! I won't do it!!!

Just click on the pictures to see them bigger.

CLOUD

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudPose.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudPose.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudPose2.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudPose2.jpg)

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_cloudbattlemodel2.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/cloudbattlemodel2.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_cloudbattlemodel3.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/cloudbattlemodel3.jpg)


(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_cloudbattlemodel6.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/cloudbattlemodel6.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_cloudbattlemodel7.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/cloudbattlemodel7.jpg)

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_Comparison.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/Comparison.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudRun.gif) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudRun.gif)

SEPHIROTH

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_Sephycomplete.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/Sephycomplete.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_sephydifferrance.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/sephydifferrance.jpg)

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_SephyManyFAce.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/SephyManyFAce.jpg)

Scale Model Reference

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudFront.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudFront.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudSide.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudSide.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudBack.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudBack.jpg)
(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudFieldFront.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudFieldFront.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudFieldSide.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudFieldSide.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudFieldBack.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudFieldBack.jpg)

Use these to help you put the right details on your own Cloud, or use them to model your own front scratch![/list]

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Kuroda Masahiro on 2008-04-04 08:09:53

i assume it won't be for release due to legal restrictions?

but very nice for what you've done, i would definitively use this if you released it if that counts for anything.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-04-04 08:13:29

O_0
It's awesome!GREAT!
Is it Crisis Core model avaliable now to use?

P.S.maybe you will make field model same to battle?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-04-04 09:00:18

Yea, I know the 'legal reasons' suck, but I would also use this if it was by chance released.  Nice work :-)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Mattie on 2008-04-04 09:13:51

I must say that this is, in my opinion, the best cloud version I've seen. Nice work :)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Viashino on 2008-04-04 12:59:33

Do to copy writes and legal mobo jumbo, cant be released.  Over all i like the idea, looks nice and gives the game a cartoony cloud but its good.  I perfered the one from kh2, i took that one and the sephiroth.  Its nice over all but it kinda loses something.  Well sorta LOL seeing sephiroth with his wings and stuff does kinda add a smile to my face watching the first solders die.  Anyway nice work.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: obesebear on 2008-04-04 16:19:54

Since it isn't a port of the KH Cloud there is no reason he couldn't release this if he decides to.   Apzfreak's model looks nothing like Cloud in either of those games and would most likely be considered an original work (fan art).

I've gotta say, it looks great!  The blocky version is hilarious.   

I don't know if you need reference material, but silenttweak.net has every Crisis Core video uploaded.  May help your modeling.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: sword on 2008-04-04 16:58:36

Ooh, that looks great. Both versons.
I... I want you.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: kini on 2008-04-04 18:30:09

very nice model, has anyone got a similor tifa model?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: supercool330 on 2008-04-04 21:29:42

THIS IS AMAZING
Great work.
Too bad there isn't any way to distribute it.  Could you somehow release a patch to the original model ripped from Kingdom Hearts?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Swampthing15 on 2008-04-05 00:28:48

could u not make a prgraom that would extract it and do nexxisarry mods without actually sharing the files? like rip the files out of the existing game on users comp?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Ragna on 2008-04-05 06:27:48

That is the best Cloud model I've ever seen. You are awesome, pal.

To other people:
This is NOT a ripped Cloud, so he could actually release it with no problems, if he wants.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: weeemus on 2008-04-05 08:40:49

Quote

To other people:
This is NOT a ripped Cloud, so he could actually release it with no problems, if he wants.

lol not really...

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I pulled the Cloud out of Kingdom Hearts and chopped him

@Henkäys Ikuisuudesta
Even though it may differ from the kingdom hearts cloud, he re modified the original piece. A nice job i must say. But he is still using the kh1 head and a few of the original textures or re modified the textures. The only thing he could release is the belt texture and buster sword. As he mentioned last time or somewhere i read on the forum. He created the buster sword from scratch therefore he could release that if he wanted.

But just by re modifying a model, you still cannot release it. Unless everything was created from scratch.

Edit-

Oh here it is. Though this was when it wasn't upgraded that much as to now.

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7428.0 (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7428.0)

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I ripped him myself, and transformed him into this:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: LegendarySaiyan on 2008-04-05 08:52:48

I love it! looks so good^^ just amazing!
I especially love this one http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/cloudbattlemodel5.jpg (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/cloudbattlemodel5.jpg)

LS^^

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-04-05 09:32:21

Quote from: weeemus on 2008-04-05 08:40:49

Even though it may differ from the kingdom hearts cloud, he re modified the original piece. A nice job i must say. But he is still using the kh1 head and a few of the original textures or re modified the textures. The only thing he could release is the belt texture and buster sword. As he mentioned last time or somewhere i read on the forum. He created the buster sword from scratch therefore he could release that if he wanted.

Nicely Put and straight to the point.  :-D I couldn't have said it better myself! I could release the Buster Sword, I made it before I started this whole FFVIIPC thing.

Although I do make my own models, I saw no real reason to start from scratch, I wanted the challenge that getting the KH1 model posed. To me that version is the quintessential Cloud (Well, the Face and hair texture anyways) so I translated that Cloud into the one you see here.

Since I do have the necessary skills to make him myself you may ask, why didn't I make him from scratch? I loved the KH1 Cloud proportions, Texture creation and skinning takes a mild amount of planning and time. Making the model is only half the battle, but texture creation necessitates a stronger need for attention.

Plus I'm just lazy, seeing as how I lead a very busy life! I'm working full time and taking two college classes (Algebra and Compositional Writing) I have an adoring Fiancée who obviously cannot be ignored. I'm the eldest of 8 children (a role model kinda for them) an aspiring graphic designer and artist as well as dabbling musician. I'm usually booked solid for time... But not that anyone here really cares, we all lead busy lives.

That's why I took a short-cut, can you blame me?       No...     Well then good!  :-)

One of these days I am planning an X-Box level quality of several choice FFVII charcters for fun, I'll make them all the right way like Almighty_gir on His Thread (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7180.0). Using normal maps and the whole sha-bang. It'll be a blast!

edit:

But here's what I made myself incase you're interested. The torso was made from scratch using only the shirt part of the KH texture. I made the Shoulder Armor and Wrist Armlet (the models part, not the tex). and Belt Texture  :roll: The rest was modified, repainted, and bent into shape. Thanks for reading if you got through it all!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: weeemus on 2008-04-05 09:53:35

Wow big family  :-P Well its good to know that your balancing everything out and getting a piece of each slice.
Yeah may be hard to find time to settle and work on some models. But hey yat your own pace, theres plenty of time.

Perhaps model 2 hours once a week if you like. There is no dead line  :-)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Ragna on 2008-04-05 11:06:02

Oh... sorry. I didn't know it was a KH ripped-&-modified Cloud model.
OMG, now I see that i didn't read you very well.  :oops:
I thouhgt it was everything from scratch... *sigh*

Still, you've done a great job with him.
It would be awesome to see more characters.

P.S.: I am curious to see that SD Cloud model in-game. Could you take a snapshot?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Viashino on 2008-04-05 13:34:40

Heh i know you cant release it so i took the que from you and ripped what i could off kingdom hearts, in the process of redoing cloud (full model if able) tifa, yuffie, cid, and ofcourse sephiroth but i think his sword and wings may pose a probelm.  But hey you did an excellent job with cloud and the buster sword

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: soldier21 on 2008-04-05 23:58:07

Thanks for making a topic about this and not releasing it to the public, thanks alot. I hardly doubt sony even comes on here, and even if they did they shouldn't be offended that unlike there lazy asses someone is actually trying to make final fantasy 7 look graphically better with the same good old gameplay. And this wouldn't be illegal because you are not charging any money, and its tribute, kind of like ppl are allowed to make free parodies of final fantasy 7. And that looks nothing like the cloud strife from kingdom hearts since the one in kingdom hearts has a cape on himself. And if you're not making any money off it and lawyer can say that you're not doing anything wrong.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: obesebear on 2008-04-06 02:09:59

As a matter of fact most game companies do not like you taking their models and inserting them into other games, and especially not distributing that model to people who may not own the original game.

I personally can't tell it was taken from KH because of the heavy modification, and I think it could be released without so much as a C&D.  However, if apz freak is looking into a career in computer design industry it would probably be best to keep the KH ripped one undistributed.

But lets not turn this topic into another why it can or can't be released.   Apz freak, are you planning on texturing any of the other models?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: soldier21 on 2008-04-06 02:52:32

I'm making an offer to anyone on this forum, who ever gets me that model. I will pay them 100 bucks through paypal, no lying. But the model has to be intact and playable on the pc version. Send me a private message, so squaresoft/squareenix doesn't scare you to death. Ridiculous... I just don't understand why someone would make a topic and kind of rub it in showing screenshots, showing that they have the model and no one else does. It shows immaturity in some ways, it's like if your gonna do that just release it to the public. How can squaresoft even track down the person isp, it's not like they're sharing it on p2p program or some crap. And maybe if squareenix wasn't so lazy they'd be making a graphically better final fantasy 7 so the fans wouldn't have to do it themselves. We didn't even get an official pc patch for final fantasy 7, so we got an unofficial windows xp patch because they were that lazy. And Squaresoft/squareenix would have the nerves to bother the fans that pay their freaking bills?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: kini on 2008-04-06 07:16:20

Quote from: soldier21 on 2008-04-06 02:52:32

I'm making an offer to anyone on this forum, who ever gets me that model. I will pay them 100 bucks through paypal, no lying. But the model has to be intact and playable on the pc version. Send me a private message, so squaresoft/squareenix doesn't scare you to death. Ridiculous... I just don't understand why someone would make a topic and kind of rub it in showing screenshots, showing that they have the model and no one else does. It shows immaturity in some ways, it's like if your gonna do that just release it to the public. How can squaresoft even track down the person isp, it's not like they're sharing it on p2p program or some crap. And maybe if squareenix wasn't so lazy they'd be making a graphically better final fantasy 7 so the fans wouldn't have to do it themselves. We didn't even get an official pc patch for final fantasy 7, so we got an unofficial windows xp patch because they were that lazy. And Squaresoft/squareenix would have the nerves to bother the fans that pay their freaking bills?

if i had 100$ to spend on it id probably just buy kOH and rip the model myself, id love the modern models too but its against forum rules so stop asking lol

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-04-06 07:54:32

Whoah there buddy!

I know I wouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist if I were to release it, they would not dare spend the money it would take to sue a nobody like me. That's not real the reason.

As I see it, using material that someone else made without consent is theft. I'm also an artist, what I did was like taking a photo of someone's painting and photoshoping slight differences on it and calling it my own. Or taking the beginning of someone's song and using it in my own without asking.

I apologize if knowing that I have done this has upset or offended you.

edit:

obesebear Well I was gonna rip out the KH2 Sephiroth and modify him the same way so that he'll be in the original costume style, the same way I did Cloud. But that's about as far as I'm going, I've got way too many projects to turn this one into a main one. It's just some fun I'm having and I'd thought I'd share the results with the community I learned all this FFVIIPC stuff from!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: soldier21 on 2008-04-06 09:33:41

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-04-06 07:54:32

Whoah there buddy!

I know I wouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist if I were to release it, they would not dare spend the money it would take to sue a nobody like me. That's not real the reason.

obesebear Well I was gonna rip out the KH2 Sephiroth and modify him the same way so that he'll be in the original costume style, the same way I did Cloud. But that's about as far as I'm going, I've got way too many projects to turn this one into a main one. It's just some fun I'm having and I'd thought I'd share the results with the community I learned all this FFVIIPC stuff from!

I'm going to commit suicide because of you

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-04-06 11:35:36

If he has the talent to make it, he has the right to keep it to himself, not distribute it if it puts him at any risk.
If you want it, you'll just have to learn how to do it, and do it yourself, that's what I'm doing
I got all the software, and am planning on getting some practice in later today :-)

I'm going to start with Cid btw, if anybody has any suggestions or advice :-)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: nexuseragon on 2008-04-06 11:44:10

Oh could you give me the Buster sword, pretty please? xD

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: supercool330 on 2008-04-06 12:42:43

Ya, I would go for just having the buster sword.  That is in y opinion the coolest part of the model, and if you made that yourself there should be no problem, and just putting that on cloud would  make him look 10 times more awesome.  If you don't want to, I won't say anything bad about you (since you are teh one who spent the time and effort to make it), but it would be really nice if you put it up somewhere.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: soldier21 on 2008-04-06 23:32:40

Quote from: supercool330 on 2008-04-06 12:42:43

Ya, I would go for just having the buster sword.  That is in y opinion the coolest part of the model, and if you made that yourself there should be no problem, and just putting that on cloud would  make him look 10 times more awesome.  If you don't want to, I won't say anything bad about you (since you are teh one who spent the time and effort to make it), but it would be really nice if you put it up somewhere.

You mean having just the buster sword with lots of materia... Thats what you mean right? Because I know that you can keep the buster sword in the game but the sword is weak and has no materia at all

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-04-07 01:00:05

Quote from: soldier21 on 2008-04-06 23:32:40

Quote from: supercool330 on 2008-04-06 12:42:43

Ya, I would go for just having the buster sword.  That is in y opinion the coolest part of the model, and if you made that yourself there should be no problem, and just putting that on cloud would  make him look 10 times more awesome.  If you don't want to, I won't say anything bad about you (since you are teh one who spent the time and effort to make it), but it would be really nice if you put it up somewhere.

You mean having just the buster sword with lots of materia... Thats what you mean right? Because I know that you can keep the buster sword in the game but the sword is weak and has no materia at all

Actually you can make the Buster Sword model ANY of Cloud's weapons, or you could make ALL of Cloud's swords into that Buster Sword. Just copy the file over and rename it to the other weapon names! I might release it in the near future, but we'll see!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: soldier21 on 2008-04-07 01:07:02

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-04-07 01:00:05

Actually you can make the Buster Sword model ANY of Cloud's weapons, or you could make ALL of Cloud's swords into that Buster Sword. Just copy the file over and rename it to the other weapon names! I might release it in the near future, but we'll see!

I'm going to come off like the mean jack ass of the forum, so I don't care but I hardly believe you when you say you will release anything to the public. Have you released anything to the public for final fantasy 7 pc mod other then a few screenshots?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-04-07 02:44:39

No I haven't yet... I'm new to the community and it hasn't been long since I learned how to do all of this. I've worked on a project before that made releases to the net. http://doomreborn.d3files.com/

Sadly we've all moved on before making anything final, partially just to get away from all the internet abuse we were receiving. Partially because we're all young people with busy lives getting through school and working.

But Yes I will release it then, just give me some time to prepare it.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: soldier21 on 2008-04-07 03:19:45

okay, sorry if i sounded like a jack ass  :|

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-04-07 05:20:24

It's alright man  :-D

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Lionheart13 on 2008-04-07 06:08:47

That is really cool. The thing I like about it is that, while it is higher quality, the field version could still (sort of) blend in with the other models. Good Job.

BTW, Good luck with the fiance.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: nexuseragon on 2008-04-07 13:05:05

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-04-07 01:00:05

Actually you can make the Buster Sword model ANY of Cloud's weapons, or you could make ALL of Cloud's swords into that Buster Sword. Just copy the file over and rename it to the other weapon names! I might release it in the near future, but we'll see!

If you actually know the names of the models in battle.lgp. I know that BS is rtck and Ultima is rtcz :D. But, that's kinda off topic, I just wanna know if he'll give me the model of Buster sword that he has. Incredible details :-o

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: weeemus on 2008-04-08 05:11:19

Just copy paste all of clouds battle files into a folder and use bitrun to check The sword models and name.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: nexuseragon on 2008-04-08 14:48:59

You told me that in my topic  :lol: I just wan HIS model of Buster sword! APZ FREAK! Please! xD

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: supercool330 on 2008-04-08 19:39:39

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-04-07 02:44:39

But Yes I will release it then, just give me some time to prepare it.

Yay :-D, thanks man I really appreciate it.
Does anybody know if anyone has done models for any of the other weapons (a complete updated model pack would be awesome)?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: dark angel on 2008-04-09 05:00:23

how do u actually pull him out of the game I'm a noob and just started so i don't no how so can u tell me how ??? :?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: HeavensCloud on 2008-04-09 05:26:19

Quote from: dark angel on 2008-04-09 05:00:23

how do u actually pull him out of the game I'm a noob and just started so i don't no how so can u tell me how ??? :?

I think you'd need a 3D editing program to do that.  And even if you did, it wouldn't matter as KH Cloud does not = Apzfreak's Cloud.  Of course if you liked KH Cloud then you could use that I suppose, but I'm not sure if the KH model would translate to work in FF7 as is or if it would need to be altered. 

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: obesebear on 2008-04-09 16:21:15

It requires quite a bit of editing to import a KH character into FF7 and have it look the same.

Unless you somehow find yaz0r's .obj exporter for the KH models

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-04-10 01:47:30

Just keep googeling and you'll find it eventually. I found everything I needed long after the whole "yazor's C&D scare" It's still out there, you just need to look. (And your graphics card needs pixelshader 2.0, mine didn't so I had to use another computer)

Sorry, but I'm not gonna release this Cloud. But I can release the Buster Sword, I'll just upload the files ready to be spliced, someone else can make a patcher if they really want to, but it's only a few files, I wouldn't spend the time to make one.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: dark angel on 2008-04-10 03:04:35

then can u tell me wat editors or programs u used ??? :?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: HeavensCloud on 2008-04-10 20:08:57

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-04-10 01:47:30

But I can release the Buster Sword, I'll just upload the files ready to be spliced, someone else can make a patcher if they really want to, but it's only a few files, I wouldn't spend the time to make one.

Any idea when the Buster Sword will be uploaded?  I'd love to download it, don't need a patcher to install it.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-04-11 18:46:12

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/cloudjoke.jpg)


 :-D This is just a joke, thought some of you might enjoy this.

Oh by the way... I updated the screenshots and replaced a few of them in the first post of this thread for your enjoyment (because I got too exited and made screenshots and posted it all before I finished making the lower leg and boots, that's all finished now!)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Master Ridley on 2008-04-11 18:54:42

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/cloudbattlemodel3.jpg)

I'd love to have that Buster Sword!! Did you make it or rip it from Crisis Core?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: soldier21 on 2008-04-11 20:36:44

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-04-11 18:46:12

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/cloudjoke.jpg)


 :-D This is just a joke, thought some of you might enjoy this.

Oh by the way... I updated the screenshots and replaced a few of them in the first post of this thread for your enjoyment (because I got too exited and made screenshots and posted it all before I finished making the lower leg and boots, that's all finished now!)

Can you release that one? You created that one on your own right?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: nguyenhuy_prince on 2008-04-12 10:00:46

So, if you complete the project, can you share it for every one and me? I hope you will  :wink:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-05-06 10:48:35

To answer some questions and repeat myself. I cannot release this as it uses altered models ripped from copyrighted material. The more I make i plan to post and possibly see about making some youtube videos, that's about as much as I can do!

The Buster Sword I made from scratch and plan to release it.

But as far as I know... I don't think anyone has ripped any 3d models out of Crisis Core yet, so nothing you see here was ripped from Crisis Core except maybe the fact that I used screenshots for references in my texture files.

So please no more of these questions, this Cloud will not be released. This proves that I altered the Kingdom Hearts Cloud into this one:

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_Comparison2.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/Comparison2.jpg)

You can tell that I blatantly ripped it and altered it there, it's not really a creative project. But one that I was curious to try and see what the results might look like. So for my curiosity, I post these pictures for other's benefit so that they too can see what Kingdom Hearts Cloud would look like in the original costume (as portrayed at the end of Crisis Core's secret ending)

I'm not trying to be a dick, but I'm sorry, I can't release it.

Sooner or later I'll also do Sephiroth using KH2's and transform him into the original costume as well. That'll be fun!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: obesebear on 2008-05-08 02:55:50

Well your buster sword model is very impressive so I'm sure everyone will be happy when you release it.  Keep us updated on your Sephiroth WIP.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Xelane on 2008-05-08 19:18:13

Is he planning on releasing this?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Otokoshi on 2008-05-10 07:32:46

Quote from: Xelane

Is he planning on releasing this?

Quote from: apz freak

To answer some questions and repeat myself. I cannot release this as it uses altered models ripped from copyrighted material. The more I make i plan to post and possibly see about making some youtube videos, that's about as much as I can do!

The Buster Sword I made from scratch and plan to release it.

A forum is not just for posting, and in your case necroposting, it's also used for reading.  This post was two days before yours... seriously?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Xelane on 2008-05-10 18:49:23

The only reason i asked is because obesear made a comment, so when i looked at the unred posts since last visit page it popped up. so either obesear is the necroposter or nobody is since i made a comment on the same day as him.

And another thing: enough with the ****ing necroposting crap, if it said that the topic hasn't been active in over 60 days then i won't bother posting in it.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: dziugo on 2008-05-10 21:51:48

Quote from: Xelane on 2008-05-10 18:49:23

The only reason i asked is because obesear made a comment, so when i looked at the unred posts since last visit page it popped up. so either obesear is the necroposter or nobody is since i made a comment on the same day as him.

And another thing: enough with the ****ing necroposting crap, if it said that the topic hasn't been active in over 60 days then i won't bother posting in it.

This time Otokoshi said that you can't read, not that you're a necroposter. And from your reaction I'd say that he's right, you can't read. That, or you're oversensitive about the word.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Xelane on 2008-05-10 23:39:27

"in your case necroposting"

yeah he totaly didn't call me a necroposter

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: obesebear on 2008-05-11 01:55:02

This is the second thread in which you've cried about necroposting.  If you don't want to be called one, perhaps try not reviving threads that are 7 years old.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Otokoshi on 2008-05-11 01:58:39

Quote from: dziugo

This time Otokoshi said that you can't read, not that you're a necroposter.

Quote from: Xelane

"in your case necroposting"

yeah he totaly didn't call me a necroposter

No Xelane, dziugo is right.  Notice how I said "in your case necroposting", because it only pertains to you, because apparently you enjoy doing it.  I guess it would be unfair to say that you can't read, which I don't believe I said directly.  Personally I think it's worse when someone that can read chooses to not read, ergo making an ass out of oneself.

Quote from: Xelane

And another thing: enough with the ****ing necroposting crap,

Please take some of your own advice...

[onTopic]So um... yeah... I do like the work on the Cloud model.  The texture work you did is well done.  It's unfortunate you can't release it, but I look forward to seeing the sword and any other work you might cook up.[/onTopic]

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-05-11 03:16:38

Let's just say that no one is a necrophiliac on my thread! I don't want it to be considered dead if I still want to add to it!

I've been updating the first post in this thread with updated pictures. I also plan on posting more in this thread to stop the clutter that comes with multiple posts, That way anyone can find all the pictures in this one thread and don't have to go surfing to find them all.

I'll make my Sephiroth pretty soon, now that school's out!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-05-11 10:01:34

he sword does look awesome, I can't wait for a release. ;-)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-05-11 11:12:24

I know, wink wink!  :wink:

I'll post it on the first post in this thread as a file. I don't think you need the auto-patcher for this one.

Sorry, I just do so many things at one time! Recently I've been completing some of my guitar songs to be professionally recorded at a full recording studio next week... I'm really excited!

Not only being a geeky FFVII obsessee like all of us, I'm also a musician and an artist. Gotta take it one day at a time, and there's never enough time in the day for all of it. Sorry!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-05-11 11:31:19

Haha I know what you mean. I'm a guitarist also, but fortunately I'm not smart enough to manage both that AND modding, since on the modding side....I'm useless ;-)
I am however pretty damm decent on a Gibson :-P

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Xelane on 2008-05-11 18:41:10

Modding isn't very hard when you understand how the codes work, and if you know what you're doing so i bet you could manage it

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-05-11 20:14:09

I'm able to manage it now, but at first it was like trying to shove a brick up my nose. To me it's the same thing as learning algebra, you learn how it functions in that scenario, everything needs to be checked in order with this relying on that.

Modding is probably one of the things I do the least. I spend way more of my time with everything else. Had I been paid for this, I would have built Cloud from the ground up from scratch and probably have most of the characters done by now.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Xelane on 2008-05-11 20:19:34

Lol maybe one day you'll get bored and actualy try to completely remodel cloud from scratch :-D
I havent seen this for myself but people say that you can't import a perfect model of any kind (i mean graphic wise) because according to most modders here, the game can't support that resolution.

Anyway what i'm trying to get at is if you can figure a way to get around the resolution problem then you could essentialy remake most of the models and quite possibly the whole game.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: sword on 2008-05-11 21:57:46

It almost pains me to look in this thread anymore.
The models look godly. Yet.. you can't... release them...
*Sob*

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Xelane on 2008-05-11 21:59:42

I can see what you mean, You get to see this great model being used that you wish had a patch uploaded but unfortunately you just can't get your hands on it.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: dziugo on 2008-05-11 22:32:05

Quote from: Otokoshi on 2008-05-11 01:58:39

Quote from: dziugo

This time Otokoshi said that you can't read, not that you're a necroposter.

Quote from: Xelane

"in your case necroposting"

yeah he totaly didn't call me a necroposter

No Xelane, dziugo is right.  Notice how I said "in your case necroposting", because it only pertains to you, because apparently you enjoy doing it.  I guess it would be unfair to say that you can't read, which I don't believe I said directly.  Personally I think it's worse when someone that can read chooses to not read, ergo making an ass out of oneself.

Yeah, sorry for putting words in your mouth. I was just worried that someone might not understand what I was trying to say.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Xelane on 2008-05-11 22:34:22

No offense but you just made a comment that was irrelivant to the conversation that we're having.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: dziugo on 2008-05-11 22:35:21

Quote from: Xelane on 2008-05-11 22:34:22

No offense but you just made a comment that was irrelivant to the conversation that we're having.

None taken.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-05-11 23:11:51

I have plans on making a Legend of Zelda mod for FFVII, I drew up some designs and concept when I should have been writing notes in math class.

I can release THAT!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-05-12 07:26:30

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-05-11 23:11:51

I have plans on making a Legend of Zelda mod for FFVII, I drew up some designs and concept when I should have been writing notes in math class.

I can release THAT!

Now THAT would be awesome.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: TnTonly on 2008-05-15 14:44:38

I don't know if this is a right place to post my trouble, since I don't really want to create a  new topic much. Well I have use a patch that replace Cloud model from the last battle to normal battle. I think some of you know this patch. The problem is, it can not work under highres, (terminate right after entering battle) and even not under highres, after a couple of battles, the program crashes.

Does anyone have a solution?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-05-25 10:49:36

I wouldn't know that one, don't forget, I'm a noob too!  :wink: I just somehow figured out how to use these programs to get some models in the game, it only took me since January!

but in the mean by here's a Work in Progress of Sephiroth!

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_SephyWIP.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/SephyWIP.jpg)

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_SephyWIP2.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/SephyWIP2.jpg)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: obesebear on 2008-05-26 15:23:57

I'm liking the hair.  It reminds me of how it looks in Crisis Core.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Swampthing15 on 2008-05-27 02:37:37

hey....ive been reading this thread for a while now...but i guess uve put some new pics up and i didnt notice....it looks GREAT uve got real talent

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Satoh on 2008-05-29 07:12:07

 

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-05-25 10:49:36

I wouldn't know that one, don't forget, I'm a noob too!  :wink: I just somehow figured out how to use these programs to get some models in the game, it only took me since January!

but in the mean by here's a Work in Progress of Sephiroth!

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_SephyWIP.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/SephyWIP.jpg)

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_SephyWIP2.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/SephyWIP2.jpg)

Hey, umm correct me if I'm wrong, apz, but that's a solid deformable mesh you used for Sephiroth's hair isn't it?
Now, I had heard a rumor once that there was a deforming model of cloud, in the PC version, that was never used, but in all my looking, I never found it. So, hence I believed deforming models were impossible to use in FFVII.... may I ask how you made Seph's hair? Is it my imagination, 'some cruel illusion of fate,' or is it really a deforming mesh O.o; If it is, then there is hope for my talents yet. (I don't much care for segment meshes really...)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: apz freak on 2008-05-29 08:32:36

Nope sorry, no deforming mesh. :-D Just strategic placement of the segments. I have a knack for using things in ways they're not supposed to be used. The resolution is so low you can't see the minuscule gaps in the hair. But I positioned them so that they line up perfectly with the animations.

I would like to think I'm THAT good at re-working the FFVII game engine. But in reality all I did was use my attention to detail coupled with all the wonderful programs on this site made by us fellow fans. I'm no genius! I just have an eye for what looks good, or at least good enough  :wink: These little models aren't water tight ya know!

But this game isn't really suited to show off modeling skills on anyway. Hence why I'm not building the models myself, rather I'm ripping and modifying existing models into this form. I suggest you dazzle us with some character renderings of these FFVII characters that you built from scratch. I'd totally bow down to you for that!  :wink: Not to mention it's quite a portfolio stuffer!

by the way.... SEPHIROTH'S DONE!!!!!!!!!

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_Sephycomplete.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/Sephycomplete.jpg)

Enjoy! Although I must mention again, I will not release these, the pictures are all that I can share, and I never ripped anything from Crisis Core.

I ripped this Sephy from Kingdom Hearts 2 (I like that version's hair and face better than the Kingdom Hearts 1's version)

and as always I'll post these new Sephy pictures on the first post of this thread for convenience!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model
Post by: Satoh on 2008-05-30 13:22:52

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-05-29 08:32:36

Enjoy! Although I must mention again, I will not release these, the pictures are all that I can share, and I never ripped anything from Crisis Core.

I ripped this Sephy from Kingdom Hearts 2 (I like that version's hair and face better than the Kingdom Hearts 1's version)

So everyone says... but that doesn't look like the KHII Sephiroth outfit... at least not the Seph I murdered....(nor the one from the files I dumped from the disc) Plus... that's the SOLDIER belt that's on all the Crisis Core models...

As I well understand, you can't give me the model, but could you tell me the name of the file, and the version/country/etc. of your KHII?
Also, if it isn't a direct rip, could you tell me where you got the awesome texture for the model?

On a slightly different yet related note, as the same people did the modeling for CC as KH, it stands to reason that there may be some similar file types on the CC disc, and... with some work, it may be possible to rip those as well... (though I really swear someone already has ¬ ¬;  )

EDIT: And that SD Cloud is creepy... X_x;

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: sword on 2008-05-30 16:27:38

Ok, now your just taunting us.
Sephiroth looks good though.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: apz freak on 2008-05-30 19:27:04

I'm not trying to taunt anyone! No more than Squeeble or anybody else on this board who did the same thing first before me!

The reason my modified Sephiroth looks different is because I added those differences on my own. Personally I wasn't too crazy about the red lined coat with wings growing out of his butt! So... I chopped all that off, changed the texture file and built a few costume articles that weren't there before. It may be possible to ripp from Crisis Core, but I don't know of anyone who has yet!

I know it's from Kingdom Hearts 2, because I ripped it  :-D I put the soldier belt in there myself, it wasn't there before! I got the texture by copy and pasting from Crisis Core Screenshots. That's about as close to ripping from Crisis Core as I ever got. I don't even own a psp!

I look at it this way, what I did was take the Kingdom Hearts Sephy, and dress him in the Crisis Core one's cloths.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: Satoh on 2008-05-30 20:21:13

Well.... you certainly have a nack for making clean and pretty textures.... I've made a few nice textures... but they usually turn out bad... I'm envious...

I recently attempted to remodel Cloud's buster sword into Shuyin's sword from X-2 (not that it's a particular favorite of mine, but I do like that sword XD)
however when I attempted to test it, the texture that showed up on the sword was cloud's eyes...--extremely stretched.

Maybe I'll just stick to modding other games ne?

Do you model for a living, or is it just a hobby?

EDIT: lol, I don't suppose you could release your pretty textures...? Though I on't know if you used any directly infringing materials so maybe not...

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: squeeble on 2008-05-30 22:01:28

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-05-30 19:27:04

I'm not trying to taunt anyone! No more than Squeeble or anybody else on this board who did the same thing first before me!

Yeah I really was a bitch lol.

I might do this again one day and release them, now I have a full time job though so I never have any time to do anything. But yeah I don't think I would be too fussed with what square would think of what I'd done with their models now.

[offtopic] I don't know how many people would have been sending me emails but my msn died like 2-3 months ago and I never got a new one lol. If you want to re-add me or send me an email you can at [email protected] (yes my names is so awesome it needs no numbers or underscores.) Asking me for technical advice probably wont get you very far as I haven't done anything in max in a long time. [offtopic]

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: apz freak on 2008-05-31 09:22:56

It's not like I really care too much about the whole legal thing. I'd just rather not have to deal with it what-so-ever. Besides... releasing ANYTHING is a hassle even if it's all legit. I know first hand about that because of the mod I worked on for about a year. This is just fun for me, and I'm posting it to the only people who would ever give a damn about this thing I'm doing. No release dates or crunching, or worrying about other people's opinions, or running my ideas through anybody... Just plain old fun.

But my name's so baddass that I use an underscore or space or just combine the two into one, depending on the naming rules of whatever forum I'm signed up to at the time! :wink: But thanks Squeeb for putting the thought in my head! I'd buy you a beer for that!  :-D Really though, thanks! I mean it.

Yeah it's just a hobby, I'm also an artist and a musician. I don't currently have any of my art online, but you can check out some of my cover music here: http://apzfreak.newgrounds.com/

I didn't post any of my good originals there, I'll wait until I can make better recordings of them, at least have them sounding halfway decent.

I also worked on DOOM REBORN, a little Doom 3 mod that converted the original Doom into full everything 3D on Doom 3's engine: http://doomreborn.d3files.com/

But if you want my own personal opinion of this thing. It was run by half motivated people who couldn't stay focused. I'm no better than anybody else on that mod, but in a years time we only did about 2 months worth of work. It's incomplete and I'm somewhat unhappy about some of the maps.

But my items are cool!

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_DoomRebornItems.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/DoomRebornItems.jpg)

Yep, I made ALL of that, plus the textures for the monsters in that mod. But as you can see, they're all simple objects, it was mostly a texture creation project. I also re-did ALL of the floor wall and ceiling textures... Quite a big project!

Texture creation is my specialty, and I used that mod to get better at it. I hardly knew what I was doing when I joined! Now I'm pretty close to pro, the standards these days are higher, but I know I can get there if I'm getting paid enough!  8-)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: squeeble on 2008-05-31 21:00:56

Thats awesome, I suck at photoshop though, the only thing i can really do is model. Even then I haven't touched max in like 4 months, so yeah lol.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: Satoh on 2008-06-01 01:10:05

When I model or texture things they end up looking too... clean... I have trouble making random things... like hair spikes and wrinkles... and as I said my textures look too pristine...(sp =P?)

You have any suggestions Apz? (Btw I'm working on a few hi rez versions of some of the lesser considered characters, like, Jessie and Reno... Turk Vincent... those types... but I doubt my textures will look all that great... interested in coauthoring?  that is of course once I get the meshes to a point I'm satisfied with...)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-03 06:35:15

If you're interested, I haven't really worked with many other people with models. I'd like to do it at least once or twice for the hell of it.

About the "pristine" model textures. I look at it this way... When you start a painting, you start with the blank white pristine canvas. you're job is to "uncover" the painting by deliberately "dirty"-ing the canvas with all those paints and colors. You start for Basic-basic, you rough out the base colors mood and tone from vague shapes, throw on those shadows, and then you pile on all that luscious detail.

3D models are the same way. Everything starts perfectly clean and symmetrical and perfect, but people aren't symmetrical and clean and perfect! Your skin isn't the same color all around every inch from head to toe, and your hair isn't a solid color.

What I do, as an Artist, is that it's my job to see the world as it really is. See those tiny details that most people can't see, to see the big picture in ways most people don't. To see beauty in nearly everything on earth. I don't just CREATE out of thin air, no I don't call that an artist, I PERCEIVE, I look for INSPIRATION, and when I express this inspiration, I try so hard to do so with lots of PASSION. That's what I call an ARTIST.

Other people have other definitions, that's okay. That's just my own personal view. But what I'm saying is that I make those details in my textures because I'm always looking at real life's details and comparing them. That's how come I'm able to do all of this. I also use google image search to get allot of visual referances, those help a ton! :wink:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2008-06-06 22:49:06

I believe there may be a "fair use" policy for game content, I know that Microsoft allows some game content for use in other games, like the Master Chief model from Halo 2 being used in UT3.

I guess you could look into it though, seeing as both FFVII and KH2 are both by Square/SquareEnix you might actually be able to release it, contact them and ask, no harm in trying.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: Satoh on 2008-06-07 09:13:02

Quote from: DragonNinja on 2008-06-06 22:49:06

I believe there may be a "fair use" policy for game content, I know that Microsoft allows some game content for use in other games, like the Master Chief model from Halo 2 being used in UT3.

I guess you could look into it though, seeing as both FFVII and KH2 are both by Square/SquareEnix you might actually be able to release it, contact them and ask, no harm in trying.

Square hasn't shown a large amount of freindliness in terms of what may or may not be "fair use" take Chrono Trigger Resurrection... it was A. only going to be a short demo, B. all the materials were made in house, C. not an exact copy of the original work... yet... they shot it down without a warning.

Square is becoming infamous for their "cease and desist" letters... in my opinion... it'd be better to just leave it be... besides if not square, its against the forum rules to release the Square models...

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-07 10:22:36

I'm not interested in stirring a stick in that ant pile. Sorry to anybody who wants these, I'll just take that as a compliment. :-)

Copyright laws are a sticky and complicated list, and Japanese laws are far more strict than North American copyright laws. I'm not of the revolutionary mind who thinks I need to make a change by breaking the rules. I just don't care, I'm having my fun here, and sharing the results with these fine folks. I do it all for the pictures, for me that's what it's all for anyways, it's not like it's that exciting to watch the game with those models in it. You realize it's the same bad animations, the same old camera, the same old game.

It's those pictures that make what I'm doing worth it! :wink:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: dante66 on 2008-06-08 17:16:20

Jesus christ, why do we need to see this then? Isn't it not even legal to edit the documents? Way to dangle a friggin' piece of steak in our faces.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-06-08 19:19:37

Well, if you want to complain about him "dangling pieces of steak in our faces" you could always try and rip the models yourself, instead of complaining about someone showing of his skill. ;-)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: dante66 on 2008-06-08 22:54:00

in during cocksucking. There's no point posting this, what does it mean for us? There's nothing but "HEY GUYS LOOK WHAT I CAN DO!"

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: Destiny on 2008-06-08 23:04:01

seems like youre jelous (is it right?), cmon man, what apz freak does can be done by yourself if you want to.
If you noticed in the first post, apz freak will help everyone who wants to learn. Is an occasion, isn't it?
Mmm anyway, i notice something different from the original kh2 sephiroth and this one. mmm maybe you modified the cloack? If im not wrong, you managed to add something on his cloack. Or maybe is because i cant remember this type of sephiroth very well.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-08 23:12:55

Technically, it shouldn't be in game tweaking because it's really only a couple of people doing stuff for themselves, due to copyright limitations.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-09 04:35:17

Let me just say this...

Did I do this to taunt people... No.
Did I do this to say "HA HA HA, Look what I have and you don't"...  No.
Did I do this to arrogantly show off... No.

If you really want to know why I did this, I've typed it several times in some of the posts I've made in this thread. If you want to get mad at me for doing this, I'm sorry, I never intended to make you mad, or agitated or insulted. I did not want that. I'm not arrogant like that.

Picture me in your shoes half a year ago reading Squeebles threads about getting KH models into FFVIIPC. I wanted to see what that was like having better models in the game...... Not much better, it gets really old real quick, it's the same game. I then read and searched and searched until I found everything I needed to do this thing.

What I did here wasn't that special. It doesn't make the game any better. I tweaked the game to see what it'd look like. That's pretty much it.

The pictures are really the only thing worth it. They look cooler than watching the same old animations over and over but with prettier pieces.



It's not a big deal to me, it's shamefull really, I should have made those models myself from scratch. I have the talent, but it takes work and time and thinking. Something i don't have with all the projects I'm involved in. But I still wanted to see what would happen, so I took the shortcut of chopping up KH models and modifying them, that's pretty much it.

I've already explained why I decided to post these pictures, I just wanted to share the results, with the only community who would think this kind of thing is cool. :wink:

I never intended to tick people off!


But for those of you who asked what the differences inbetween KH2 Sephiroth and my modified version. Here they are:

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_sephydifferrance.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/sephydifferrance.jpg)

To be specific: Shorter bangs, added shoulder armor harness, changed soldier emblem/belt/bangle, removed all red fins, removed wings, straightened out the coat tails, added coat buckles... that's it!

this is how Advent Children sephy would look in KH2.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: Zell-Madness on 2008-06-09 05:54:45

It looks phenomanal!
I wish I had the talent and ability to do all this!
Keep up the good work man

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: umjammerlammy on 2008-06-09 06:39:07

I Know that yu can't release the model, but you can release textures, if you want, right? (Cloud's chest at least)...
See ya!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-09 11:18:25

I just said that there really isn't much of a point for this thread. I never said you're boasting, but this is simply a gallery and usually topics like these don't last long.
Great work, though. I believe you can legally release the textures, as the previous poster said. That'd be cool.
Heck, you can rebuild the model from ground up to look like the ported ones and you'll be legally free to distribute.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-06-09 17:07:13

Why would someone go to ALL the trouble of building a model from the ground up to look like a rip for everyone, when if they were that damn desperate, it would be easier for everyone to rip the models themselves.  Call me stupid, it's just a though.

Edit: And this post isn't pointless, as you say.  It is a showcase of Appz's talents, people that say it is a pointless thread are just stupid.  This is in the game tweaking forum, and to my knowledge, ripping a model from a game, and putting it in a DIFFERENT game, is called Game Tweaking!!

Just because it isn't getting released to the somewhat unappreciative (only some) members of this board, does NOT make it pointless.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-09 18:51:55

It's not pointLESS, just not exactly peaking of some people's interests because there's not a lot being said and there's no hope of a release, so it's easy to move along and look for a mod that someone, without knowledge of modelling, can get their hands on.
I'm not ragging on the OP. His work is great. All I'm saying is that this thread is about one skilled modeler who ripped a skin from another game and spiced it up. We kind of talk about it, and that's it. No big deal, I'm not trying to be offensive. Just my thoughts.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-06-09 19:08:28

Quote from: auxili160 on 2008-06-09 11:18:25

I just said that there really isn't much of a point for this thread.

In other words...pointLESS.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-09 19:12:49

No, that would mean I said "there is no point to this thread".
It's pretty obviously two different things. Not much of something doesn't mean NONE of something. :S
Not sure what you're trying to do there. Trying to tell me what I, myself, said? Nice try.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-06-09 19:15:47

Yeah, I like to try.  If you say something that someone else started doesn't have much of a point, or is pointless or WHATEVER your little mind decides it's going to force you to type, then your a jackass. :-D
Appz started this to show us his creations.  If your going to say there's not much point, then it's not even negative feedback, it's just needless, you could even say, there's not much of a point in posting such a message.

So, I'll leave you to contemplate my really difficult to understand post, and see what your under-developed brain comes up with as a response.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-09 20:34:50

Why post it if I'm not gonna share it? I'm sharing the pictures, more importantly, the posed properly rendered pictures. Like the promotional renderings for most games, posters and the like, they look much better than the actual gameplay, You don't get to see that much quality in-game (Well maybe not a valid analogy anymore, times are changing) But I'm hoping that makes my point clearer.

but maybe I should get off my arse and release that buster sword I made! I was gonna touch it up a bit first, and never got around to it. Considering I used screen shots from Crisis Core for the gold part because I didn't have a proper high-rez picture to actually see those twirly details on it. Now that I do, I'll redo that part.

This thread will have the RELEASE of my Buster Sword model, which only took maybe half an hour to make. And considering how much faster I'm getting at inputting characters into FFVIIPC, I might make some other characters, Like Vincent! Which would be from scratch based on my knowledge of KH models. I could potentially release him, just making releases is usually more trouble than what I get out of it. But we'll see...

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-06-09 20:48:26

If you release the Buster Sword, all good, thanks in advance. :-D

Just, as you know, there will be certain people who still ask for your character models ripped from KH2. :-P

As for the Vincent thing, what exactly do you get out of releasing it?  Other than possible agro from Squeenix?  I mean, I know you said build from the ground up and everything, but wouldn't they still send a C & D out, because it's their character and whatever?
Mind you, on that basis, I suppose they would order a C & D on your Buster Sword, and come to think of it, Reunion, PrP, and NPC-rp, so actually, never mind haha.

But, seeing as I've been telling certain ass bags to make models themselves instead of complaining about others making them and displaying them, I just ordered 3ds max (new vers) from Amazon, and as soon as it's here, I plan to start my own models.  I shall be sure to show the results for those who APPRECIATE it.

Good work Apz by the way. :-D

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-10 01:25:43

Correct me if I'm wrong,  but I don't think anyone would have a beef with things I made myself from scratch. The copyrighted problem lies in the model I extracted that was made by the development team.

I don't think any whistles would be blown if I posted it to be downloaded free of charge. If I asked for money, then it would be illegal. But I don't think allowing people to download something I made is against any law. I give full credit to the originators who designed and modeled the characters first.

But I could be wrong, at least it worked for my Doom Reborn project. But that's an American company who encourages people to modify their games. Whole other can of worms. But I don't think releasing my work, even if it's based on original design, is gonna push any legal buttons.

edit: PS.

I would love to see your work! :wink:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-06-10 02:53:56

The whole "I can't release this because it uses copyrighted material" has been a recurring theme. It's massively annoying, but ultimately we all get it. Most of these people are just hoping you'll break down and release them to shut them up. I'd be lying if I said I'm not hoping you'd feel rebellious for a day and release all of it. But it is what it is, and you're not obligated to fulfill anyone's wishes. Your Cloud is by far the best one I've seen. If I wanted to nitpick, I'd say I've always disliked the KH faces for him. One of Sephiroth's pauldrons also appears to be on backwards. But overall it's excellent.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-10 03:28:40

Well thank you, that's pretty much the same way I feel. I don't like repeating it any more than you like reading it! 8-) I've said it about 4 times in a row now. I just don't care about the whole copyright thing. It's not a big deal to me. I'm not exactly proud of this achievement, if I made it myself I would be. Why share something I'm slightly ashamed of? Not that I really feel shameful, but I'm not all that proud about it either. Just the "Poster Poses" fully rendered pictures. Those make me happy!  :lol:

The pauldrons aren't backwards, that's just the rotations of the original animations. Those tiny details weren't on the original, so it didn't look odd to rotate them that way. Actually the front and back are identical, mirror image flipped style :wink:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-10 03:42:03

Context has been stolen! Yuffie may be responsible... *shifty eyes* :P

Qhimm tension is something I'm used to as a lurker here, so don't expect me to be surprised when I hear unwarranted flames and such. Qhimm is famous for it in the FF community, and it makes things interesting.
I'm grateful for the work being done all over this site, but I did not register here to get tied up in forum drama. I'm here because I want to help others and because I want to see some of the neat stuff being done.

To the OP: you seem like a nice guy. :) Keep up the good work, and I'm looking forward to the Buster Sword release (yours looks really sharp).
To some other guys: Come on, put away the knives.

Title: ~*(BUSTER SWORD RELEASE)*~
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-11 03:18:13

~*(BUSTER SWORD RELEASE)*~

:edit: I changed the links to Filefront thanks!  :-D

http://files.filefront.com/APZBusterSwordzip/;10588421;/fileinfo.html

Now have fun!  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: narcku on 2008-06-11 05:01:25

Why not try filefront ?

www.filefront.com/

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-06-11 08:57:16

Awesome.  Thank you Apz. :-D

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Fenrir on 2008-06-11 09:11:18

I made a sandwhich  :-D and very much enjoyed it, Thanks appz freak!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Cazador on 2008-06-11 12:21:03

I'm pretty sure Squareenix wouldn't even bother with a C&D as long as you give them credit and don't make money off of it.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-11 12:30:24

Best buster sword I've seen. Great work! :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: RED X on 2008-06-11 23:27:15

apz freak

Please tell me how to make Sephiroth model like yours?? :?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: Opine on 2008-06-12 02:48:33

Wow, these look so amazing. The buster sword is just gorgeous.

Very very attractive work.

Quote from: squeeble on 2008-05-30 22:01:28

I might do this again one day and release them, now I have a full time job though so I never have any time to do anything. But yeah I don't think I would be too fussed with what square would think of what I'd done with their models now.

Oh don't tease me. I remember drooling over your work too. I still think about how good your stuff looked  :-)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth too!)
Post by: squeeble on 2008-06-12 08:21:50

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-06-09 04:35:17

What I did here wasn't that special. It doesn't make the game any better. I tweaked the game to see what it'd look like. That's pretty much it.

The pictures are really the only thing worth it. They look cooler than watching the same old animations over and over but with prettier pieces.

He's quite right really.
Unless of course you changed "EVERYTHING" over, but that would be allot of effort.
Great work all in all though, it looks cleaner than mine did, but I did the whole quantity over quality thing lol.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-12 23:42:17

These models are beautiful, but I love how Cloud looks in ffvii. The version you did looks a little too Kingdom Hearts-y. :P

Edit: I'm talking about the character models, not the buster sword. Your buster sword rocks. :P

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Zell-Madness on 2008-06-12 23:48:32

If I knew how to use 3DS Max I so would! I'd loive to make my own models for the game and play as me or something like that haha
If anyone wants to help me learn then you guys rule haha!

I think the buster sword looks pretty darn nifty!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-14 09:39:35

I'm glad you guys like the Buster Sword!  :-D

Okay now, now that I have your attention, maybe one or two of you guys could lend me some advice...

I'm finally inputting those chibi field models into the game, I got them all in, but I have a few problems.

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_MissingHead.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/MissingHead.jpg)

2 Things...

1) The head blinks with the eyes, I set the head texture to the same slot as the mouth, but the whole head blinks and disappears when the eyes blink. The eyes are edited to a different mesh with a different texture. The head has it's own separate texture in the same spot where the mouth texture usually is, the mouth doesn't blink with the eyes, but why does my whole head blink instead of just the eyes texture.

Eyes set to aabb.tex and the head set to aabd.tex
@RSD940102
PLY=AABA.PLY
MAT=AABA.MAT
GRP=AABA.GRP
NTEX=2
TEX[0]=AABB.TIM
TEX[1]=AABD.TIM

2) There's no lighting/shading whatsoever. I ran a test blank white texture and it was completely white with no shading at all... How can I fix this?


With the whole head, I assume not much can be done, but I know for a fact the shading is fixable, I just can't figure out why the lighting's disabled!?

Anybody with experience that can help? Squeeble? Weemus? Reunion? Anybody?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: slayersnext on 2008-06-14 10:58:06

1. If you want to aboid the blink, you must put an invisible .p file as a head, and then select this .p file and click on "add part to the bone file", select the Cloud's head and save the field model. When Kimera ask "Compile multi-P bones in a single file?, click on "NO" and then retexture the new "aaaf1.rsd" file (for Cloud's head). With that, only the invisible .p file will blink.

2. Another option is make the default Cloud's head .p file with only the eyes and then click on "add part to the bone file", and select a Cloud's head textured whit a different .rsd file and a new .tex where Cloud has closed eyes. With that, when Cloud's eyes blinks (dissapears), the head with the closed eyes still appears in screen XD.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-14 21:47:20

Thanks alot! That works, I had already edited the eyes to a different texture and different mesh than the head. So now he blinks convincingly... That problem's covered...

And what about the the zero shading/lighting?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-14 23:26:52

Ah the blinking problem. I hope the new version of NPCRP comes out soon (it's already done apparently) because the blinking is really horribly annoying.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-15 02:44:58

Well I got the blinking problem solved, I just need to know why it's not shaded.

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_FieldProb2.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/FieldProb2.jpg)

I made a quick texture of the same solid colors to see how it was shading... No it's not, those are the same colors as the original.

I'm sure somebody knows why!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Tsetra on 2008-06-15 09:34:29

That looks pretty slick! How long did that take you to finish him, sans the blinking problem?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-15 19:29:42

I dunno, maybe a couple days. Mind you I work full time and when I started this and I go to college. So an hour here and there is hard to measure. I started all of this in January, but if I didn't have to, ya know, live life! It probably only took up about a couple days.

Also if you noticed it's the same model as the battle one I made. Just selectively resized.

Now if I can only get the shading to work I'll be in business!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: slayersnext on 2008-06-15 22:17:11

I'm glad that you solved the blinking problem. I had problems with blink too jeje

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Theclad on 2008-06-15 22:59:36

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-06-15 02:44:58

Well I got the blinking problem solved, I just need to know why it's not shaded.

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_FieldProb2.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/FieldProb2.jpg)

I made a quick texture of the same solid colors to see how it was shading... No it's not, those are the same colors as the original.

I'm sure somebody knows why!

Whoah ! It's just fantastic ;)
Did you think a think a "Chibi" Sephiroth is envisageable ?

Great work  !  :-D

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-18 20:41:43

Yes a Chibi Sephy is possible, behold!

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_sephyfieldwip.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/sephyfieldwip.jpg)

But can anybody tell me why my imported field models don't have any lighting/shading once I get them in the game?

I know somebody has to know something!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: obesebear on 2008-06-19 02:29:41

I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure the field models already have light 'baked' into the models, whereas the battle models receive lighting from outside sources in the game.

I could be wrong.   Also, you should definitely release the 'Chibi' versions of your characters, they're too badass.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-19 04:58:02

You got that a bit backwards! Battle models have the lighting baked into the models, they're lit with 100% illumination. No lights, no shadows. The base colors of the field models are solid with no baked in shading from the vertex paint. The vertex normals information (As in light direction/shade direction) appear to be preset for every scene (as in the shadows stay on the model in the same place as he turns another direction), with additive lighting only from the scene. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that's the jist of it.

I've read about 3 hours worth of technical data on this forum trying to find an answer but I've been unable to find a reason why this happened to my models. I haven't found anyone else who has even had this problem.

I'm sure someone knows! Please! :oops:

ps, no sorry I cannot release those chibi's, they're just the same models as the big ones only selectively resized. Sorry!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-23 05:07:08

Well I figured it out FINALLY!

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_Fieldfixed.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/Fieldfixed.jpg)

Alrighty then. I got him to shade, and he fits in like a glove! I made sure to get the skin tone right and everything exactly as proportioned before. Which probably freaks the hell outta people, but that's the way the game was before anyways!

Sweet! :-D

Sephiroth's in-game chibi will be exploited soon as well.  :lol:

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudFieldAwesome.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudFieldAwesome.jpg)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-23 07:22:00

AARGGGG!!!Man,Stop teasing us :wink:
These model looks so cool,but you can't realese them :cry:
it's such pain  :|

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-23 07:42:27

I think Cloud's face looks kinda fugly.  :lol:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-23 08:22:28

No more fuglier than he was before! :wink:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-23 09:01:24

True story. :P

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: LegendarySaiyan on 2008-06-23 11:53:47

Too bad that you can't release them because they look so beautiful. I might have said this before, but I am saying it again I love these two here;
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/cloudbattlemodel7.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/sephyfieldwip.jpg

Keep up with the awesome work^^

LS^^

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-23 14:01:40

I'm speechless. That is amazing man. I kinda like your chibi and battle cloud though. The sephiroth one still need a little tweaking with the texturing since some distortion around the face and chest are noticable. And the hands are still missing. Can you give me an in-depth tutorial on how to make those custom models man? I have no problem with 3dsmax but I don't know how to replace the models with the custom ones.

I know there are some tutorials somewhere in this forum, but they don't explain much or don't go too deep with the explanation. So, I really need your help here man.

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-23 14:05:47

Hehe my first model 8-)
(http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080623/thumbs/WcJbRhxGk5.jpg) (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/2735955.html)
Cloud's head from KH2 :lol:
Big thx goes to slayersnext and other ppl who make good guides 8-)

Hm...and when i pack it into game and start it....:
(http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080623/thumbs/2Znd7nSZef.jpg) (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/2737602.html)
wtf :? Can someone help? :-P

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-23 16:20:17

Hmmm... what about using textures on PRP models ?
Does sombody tried somthing like this?
I think all PRP needs is texturing :-)

2Alkor
Ржачный Клауд)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-23 16:33:29

squallff8  пшел н*Ñ… :-D
Я токо учусь. :-P
PS А че такое PRP? :roll:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-23 17:34:27

Phoenix Rejuvenation Project
короч так по новому называется NPC Reconstruction Project.Скорощенно PRP :wink:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: ultima espio on 2008-06-23 17:52:43

Quote from: Alkor on 2008-06-23 14:05:47

Hm...and when i pack it into game and start it....:
(http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080623/thumbs/2Znd7nSZef.jpg) (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/2737602.html)
wtf :? Can someone help? :-P

You havent enabled support for 8 bit palleted textures, enable it by ticking NVIDIA in the config. But you must have v1.02 patch installed.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-23 19:19:36

ultima espio u rocks 8-)
(http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080623/thumbs/bErTR112hP.jpg) (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/2742064.html)
But now i have another problem. Cloud's head sometimes blink...wtf? :|   :-o
PS Is his head has norm light or it need be some darky? :-)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: slayersnext on 2008-06-23 19:32:34

one page before, apz freak have the same problem about blink. Read the solution :) in that page

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-23 19:39:52

Hm....but how do this invisible .p file? :roll:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Silver Wings on 2008-06-24 06:50:53

An un-textured object is invisible

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-24 07:47:54

Silver Wings k, i'll try :wink:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-24 20:10:36

Hi all. I have a question.  :lol:
I have two models and i need make one of two in 3D MAx but don't know how :cry: :roll:
Exp:
two mod
(http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080625/thumbs/RS4XlJSwi6.jpg) (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/2760614.html)
one of two
(http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080625/thumbs/3SLTAcJf7m.jpg) (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/2760629.html)

Help plx to poor nup :-D

PS stil working 8-)
(http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080625/thumbs/MUuQBidDPU.jpg) (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/2762563.html)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Prince Lex on 2008-06-24 22:25:42

How did you pull the models from Kingdom Hearts?

I'm just beginning to learn the scary process of editing characters & re-implementing models etc and it is for the purpose of being able to use the newer models from Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, DoC, Crisis Core etc. I own all 4. Is there a specific program you use?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-24 23:38:40

Prince Lex yes, specific program. But i.m dunno can i realise it here...coz who make it get punishment from square :|

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-25 00:29:57

It's ok, nobody expects anyone to release ripped models.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: obesebear on 2008-06-25 00:51:28

Prince Lex, for the KH models you'll first need whichever game you want to get them from.  Then you'll need a program called "khdump" or "kh2dump" respectively.

A few months back a member posted a link to all the necessary files for ripping and viewing the models.  If you search for KH2DUMP you should come across it within the first 2 pages probably.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-25 04:03:45

Quote from: yongkykun on 2008-06-23 14:01:40

I'm speechless. That is amazing man. I kinda like your chibi and battle cloud though. The sephiroth one still need a little tweaking with the texturing since some distortion around the face and chest are noticable. And the hands are still missing. Can you give me an in-depth tutorial on how to make those custom models man? I have no problem with 3dsmax but I don't know how to replace the models with the custom ones.

I know there are some tutorials somewhere in this forum, but they don't explain much or don't go too deep with the explanation. So, I really need your help here man.

Thanks in advance.

Well since you asked so politely, (and I'd like to see what you'd be able to spin out  :roll: ) maybe I might set up a tutorial thread of my own. I had to scour the forums for hours at a time and do things over and over before I could figure out how to do anything properly.

I won't make it right a way, it'd take a while, but I guess I'll take a crack at it like squeeble did!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-25 08:06:24

apz freak guide about ripping? :-P Hm..intresting :-)
Prince Lex if u wanna this progs just pm me then :wink:

PS Someone knows can i rip models from crisis core? I see that someone post that: "I don't rip this models from crisis core" But can we rip them ? :roll:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-25 08:47:07

I don't think anyone has ripped any of the model files out of Crisis Core yet. Some people ripped out all of the music and raw audio, but I don't think anyone has ripped the models out of that game.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-25 09:54:50

Can someone answer me here: http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=7451.msg93525#msg93525 ? :-P

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-25 15:26:48

Quote

Well since you asked so politely, (and I'd like to see what you'd be able to spin out  rolleyes ) maybe I might set up a tutorial thread of my own. I had to scour the forums for hours at a time and do things over and over before I could figure out how to do anything properly.

I won't make it right a way, it'd take a while, but I guess I'll take a crack at it like squeeble did!

Alrighhhtttt!!!! That would be great man. That's okay, take your time man. I'm sure you'll be able to put together a much more awesome tutorial with enough time on your hand than rushing it. I'm sure that lots of people would appreciate it just as much as I do...

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Prince Lex on 2008-06-25 17:15:51

Yeah I'd love a tutorial too!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: LegendarySaiyan on 2008-06-25 22:06:49

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-06-25 04:03:45

Well since you asked so politely, (and I'd like to see what you'd be able to spin out  :roll: ) maybe I might set up a tutorial thread of my own. I had to scour the forums for hours at a time and do things over and over before I could figure out how to do anything properly.

I won't make it right a way, it'd take a while, but I guess I'll take a crack at it like squeeble did!

That would be great :P I PM'd you for few days ago, but you didn't reply so I didn't know if you got my PM or not, but I was asking the same thing "if you could make a tutorial".. Now I know that you will make one in the future so thank you^^

LS^^

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Aurenasek116 on 2008-06-26 20:18:01

Hello there.
I'm a fellow modeller and texture artist from completly different game.
I've stepped on this thread while googling some stuff and I seen those nice recreations of Seph and Cloud.
Inspired by apz's Sephiroth, i recreated the Sephiroth he made on my own, here's the result:

(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3647/sephirothiq2.jpg)

It's a fast render without fancy shadows, lighting and smooth, because my computer is kinda outdated and rendering would take too much time.
Cheers.

PS. I forgot to use alpha layer rendering aswell, just noticed it, so clipses on the coat and hair are well, not as they should be appearing.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-26 20:27:19

Woot. That's releasable too. :)

Too bad he'd look out of place since he's so detailed. lol

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-26 20:39:13

WOW!It looks great!
Can i ask you a question?
Is that model/textures that you used by your made or you ripped them?
Can you release this models or it is one more project that cannot be released?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-26 21:17:15

Well nice to see I got some people to do it themselves! Squeeble got me doing it.

But that definately looks like KH2 Sephy, from the way the hair polygons fall to the texture on the boots. So I don't think his Sephy it any more releasable than mine!  :roll:

But good job, what other game mod did you do? I worked on Doom Reborn for about a year: http://www.doomreborn.5gigs.com/index.php

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_DoomRebornItems.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/DoomRebornItems.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_soldier.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/soldier.jpg)
(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_sarge-1.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/sarge-1.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_goodimp.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/goodimp.jpg)

The Zombies aren't really much more than retexturing, but the Imp took more effort to do than this Cloud I did. Nothing short of tearing the model apart, adding new polygons, reshaping it, reskinning the bones, and completely making my own Diffuse/Specular/Local/ and Bump maps. Way more work than this Cloud and Sephy combined.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Aurenasek116 on 2008-06-26 21:38:26

Yes hello.
I've been modding for Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy, Empire at War and now Universe at War.
The only 2 games i mod atm are JKA (Jedi Academy) and UaW (Universe at War)
Here's some of my stuff:

Latest works:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7994/lateststuffxf0.jpg

DMC4 Nero:
http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/7/files2/79823_1.jpg

DMC4 Dante:
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/5377/danteud1.jpg

N1 Starfighter:
http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/10/9859/N1naboostarfighter.png

Generic Wookiee (Low poly, for UAW, its RTS game):
http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/10/9859/wookie.jpg

Anakin EP3 (Low poly, for UAW, its RTS game):
http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/10/9859/anakin.png

Darth Maul (Low poly, for UAW, its RTS game):
http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/10/9859/darthmaul.png

Heh, that would be all, quite some stuff i got :P
I'd like to ask you some questions by the way, have you got MSN/Yahoo/Xfire maybe, apz freak?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: *:.Griever.:* on 2008-06-26 21:56:23

That Anakin in the first link is AWESOME!!!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: auxili160 on 2008-06-26 22:17:34

The Anakin in the second last pic looks like a monkey though.  :lol:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Aurenasek116 on 2008-06-26 22:21:41

Yeh i know, they models with description low-poly are used as infantry in RTS game, aka strategy game like Command and Conquer 3, in those games, you can't even zoom much on infantry so much of detail isn't needed.


PS.
Just took apz's buster sword and reskinned it into non-rusty version.

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8652/newbusterjk3kc9.jpg)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-27 05:16:24

Aurenasek116 release? 8-)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-06-27 07:38:09

I still have the undirty version, but you made your own, that works! :wink:

Oh by the way...

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_FieldSephyworking.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/FieldSephyworking.jpg)

I finally put Chibi Sephy in the game. It's a shame you never really get to see him up close that much!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Aurenasek116 on 2008-06-27 11:34:40

Well.
I can't release without Apz's permission since it's his model + there is something else to it.
And Sephiroth, sadly he can't be released for the same reasons as Apz's one, it's simply remodel of a ported model.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-27 12:21:20

Hmmm...Do you planning to make your own model? :?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: JordieBo on 2008-06-27 23:18:14

Did you make that Genesis yourself?
It looks awesome and I bet it would look great it FF7.
You gonna release it?
I would get it! :P

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-07-10 11:12:33

Decided to make all of the variations of Sephiroth in the game, Hope you enjoy!

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_SephyManyFAce.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/SephyManyFAce.jpg)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: LegendarySaiyan on 2008-07-10 11:24:53

wow, that looks sweet^^ keep it up Apz!

LS^^

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: bboystrife on 2008-07-11 00:48:34

GAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!! I cant take it anymore, i need to have a good cloud model like u apz. This is my first ever post coz i've just signed up. i know u cant release this ,but could u help by telling me wot programs u used to edit the models, etc. peace

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Theclad on 2008-07-11 01:17:41

Wow, Very impressive work !

Just think the Masamune Blade can be much white and more slim don't you ?

I love your JENOVA's Face ! :)

Very good !  :lol:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Roxas on 2008-07-12 07:44:07

Fantastic work Apz! I remember first seeing your work on the adventchildren.net forum (btw, this is Cloud_S... no idea when the forums will be back up...). Can't wait to see what else you plan to do. :-D

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-07-18 07:07:50

Some of you might think this is interesting.

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/customCloud.jpg)


Wow, 7777 views huh? Well, probably not by the time you see this. But for me... I get the Lucky Sevens...  :lol: :-D :-D :-D :-D :-o :roll: :wink:

 :evil:

and on my own thread... What are the odds?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: bboystrife on 2008-07-19 01:46:33

Quote from: apz freak on 2008-07-18 07:07:50

Some of you might think this is interesting.

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/customCloud.jpg)


Wow, 7777 views huh? Well, probably not by the time you see this. But for me... I get the Lucky Sevens...  :lol: :-D :-D :-D :-D :-o :roll: :wink:

 :evil:

and on my own thread... What are the odds?

haha yeah that truely is lucky :wink:
u got sum sick designin skillz man, keep it up. sooooo badly wish u could release this, but u cant :-(
Oh well if u cant release this legendary cloud model :wink: then perhaps u may think about releasing a tutorial, to help others out? just a thought :-D
takecare Strife :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: JordieBo on 2008-07-19 09:59:33

I don't understand what I'm meant to see? In that picture. Cloud and a guy?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Mattie on 2008-07-19 10:33:30

Is it your own built Cloud model by any chance? Looks good anyway (:

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-07-19 20:12:30

Okay maybe I didn't explain... This is my own custom high-resolution model of Cloud. I didn't rip this from anything, I made him polygon by polygon myself using reference pictures and the KH Cloud.

I'm still working on him of course, he looks alittle bit more like Cloud now, I'll upload some pictures when I've been able to put together some textures (and make him some hair, Cloud looks a lot less like Cloud without his hair ya know!) and make him more realistic.

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_customCloud2.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/customCloud2.jpg)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: JordieBo on 2008-07-20 17:48:49

Nice!  :mrgreen:
But I think he should be frowning more!
Except that and the hair, it's good!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: YourSorrow on 2008-07-22 12:49:07

Hey, love the Buster Sword you made, looks great in game, I was wondering if you had any plans of making a First Tsurugi, the sword Cloud uses in Advent Children? Think it would make a great replacement Ultima Weapon.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: bboystrife on 2008-07-27 15:46:35

hey does anybody know, is there a way i can get apz's bustersword to work on the field in the npc patch?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-10-04 06:30:00

I don't know if it's necessarily against the rules to post in my own topic. But it's all relevant to the same topic, it's my thread anyways!

But I think it might benefit some folks. These are my models in reference photos to help people build their own.

(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudFront.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudFront.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudSide.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudSide.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudBack.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudBack.jpg)
(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudFieldFront.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudFieldFront.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudFieldSide.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudFieldSide.jpg)(http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/th_CloudFieldBack.jpg) (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/apz_freak/CloudFieldBack.jpg)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Goku7 on 2008-10-06 20:17:42

(Whew, I haven't posted here in years....)

Apz freak, good job on the new buster sword.  Looks totally awesome. :mrgreen:

However, I did notice something -- the sword looks somewhat off-axis with respect to Cloud.  I don't know if you somehow accidentally rotated its starting position or if the original Buster Sword was always that way, but it's most noticable when the camera is behind cloud.  I've got a screenshot:

http://bin.mypage.sk/FILES/Off-Axis%20Sword.bmp (http://bin.mypage.sk/FILES/Off-Axis%20Sword.bmp)

It's kinda subtle, but check the angle of the hilt with respect to his hands, and the ground.  It's all angled like this:  \

When it should be going like this:  |

Or something.  Keep up the good work regardless.  The texture work really brings that sword to life and matches Cloud well. :-D

-edit-

Bah, image is too big for the forum to display quickly.  I'd better change it to a regular link instead.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-10-07 05:30:13

Actually, I rotated the sword to match the rotation of the original Buster Sword. At least the imported Buster Sword was rotated that direction and my model having a few extra polygons appears strange. And maybe it somehow got rotated further than it was supposed to. But the original wasn't dead straight.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Krigo on 2008-10-10 16:36:44

Hey APZ, that's some pretty amazing skills.

I was wondering if you could answer me some questions; 1. Do you plan to release this any time soon? 2. What modeling program do you use? 3DStudio Max, Maya, Blender etc. And what would be a great way to introduce somebody into modeling?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-10-10 19:01:27

Dude Read The post. sorry if i sound rude :-(  but he DID already mention that Releasing it wouldn't strictly be legal, So he wont release it. If you want it, Dump The original Parts of the models using LGPtools, And Dump the KH models from KH, and Edit Them in 3DSmax or another 3D modelling program, like so:

(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/CloudCheckpoint1.png)

you can PM Apz for further information about how to insert the Models into FFVII PC after You've made 'em.
:-D

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: apz freak on 2008-10-11 06:48:07

Well hey, I don't want to be rude either, but I've said this maybe 20 times nearly every post I've made in this thread. I will not release this.

But if you want to know, I use 3D Studio Max 7. and I learned my modeling by taking classes on it. I took 3D animation in High School. I was able to get even better by teaching myself when a friend let me install his 3DSMax on my system. It's just learning how the program works and how to make it do what you need it to do. Tutorial files that come with the program are very helpful!

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: alef321 on 2008-10-25 04:57:14

Thanks ,you give me so much hope to the Designer Future,i loved the models...was so perfect, Looks exactly what Square-Enix  would do to the game,

Serious,,,you´re my Hero..*sorry for my bad English*

i will start doing Classes ,i am 15 years Old xP ,gotta to run

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-10-25 12:35:58

you said it :D

EDIT:
would it be alright if we could have all the custom textures? it would save a great deal of hassle


anyway, its a LOT easier to do this than people probably think. i'm using fireworks MX, and "AC3D", not even 3dsmax, and already i have this:
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/cloudtry.png)
Now thats not bad for about 2 hours total work, right?

plus, i'm an ultran00b. so if i do it, anyone can. also, can i get some suggestions on how to improve on mine? (i know obvious ones)

also, thanks again to apz for his brilliant work and ideas :D

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: WolfOkami on 2008-10-30 20:43:42

 :roll: why do you torture us with such beauty NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!

seriuosly you're not selling the files and technically the game is obsolete no-one buys it anymore everyone torrents basically i dont see any legal problems coming up what are they gonna sue you for your own hard work i mean comon like i said its only illegal if you sell it not distribute or host free.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-10-30 22:33:57

Look, dude, he aint gonna give it out. no point in begging. want 'em? go make 'em. its REALLY not hard. check my above posts :D

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: WolfOkami on 2008-10-31 15:55:00

lol i knw XD but its soo cool man he should work for square i bet hed get a sweet deal
 :-P :-D

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2008-11-01 16:12:33

lol hell yeah :D

BTW apz if you still exist, could you send me the 3D model for the belt? i cant seem to make one :/ and also maybe the texture if you have it, i cant seem to perfect mine. i can perfect the soldier logo, but the rest....yeah...

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: LimitBreak on 2009-01-18 02:15:16

Oh my, I just found this thread, and it is the biggest cock tease. Especially those "world map" (chibi/non-battle/whatever) models. If someone were to update the background in that pic of Cloud and Sephiroth, you could probably pass it around the 'net and start a very convincing rumor of the PS3 FF7 remake.

So, we all understand the legal reasons you cannot release this, but what are the reasons you cannot release a patcher for those who have Kingdom Hearts? I mean, all the various FF7 mods require patchers because they cannot legally distribute the fixed up version of Square's original files.

I haven't downloaded the other Cloud model because I thought it would clash too much with the rest of the cast in their old polygons, but this one is just too good to pass up.

Edit: Whoops! Are you even still around?

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: qwerty103 on 2009-01-18 03:20:25

Alright one question, where can I find some info's on making one?

Hmm I know some guy who makes this. I think I'm gonna go download it again and see if I can install it.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-01-18 10:24:29

Why have you two necro-bumped this thread? its not really for posting in anymore. Apz Freak has gone on to start a cloud which he will release. any questions or comments regarding him releasing stuff or making this can go here (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8035.0), i think...
He's finished that cloud now, and its only a matter of time before he does the same thing he did in this thread, apart from maybe the sephiroth.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: qwerty103 on 2009-01-18 11:08:06

Quote from: NeoCloudstrife on 2009-01-18 10:24:29

Why have you two necro-bumped this thread? its not really for posting in anymore. Apz Freak has gone on to start a cloud which he will release. any questions or comments regarding him releasing stuff or making this can go here (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8035.0), i think...
He's finished that cloud now, and its only a matter of time before he does the same thing he did in this thread, apart from maybe the sephiroth.

I just found this thread, how would I know!? -.-

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-01-18 11:48:20

Hey, it doesnt matter, just look out or things like this next time ;)

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Olie on 2009-01-19 04:53:56

could have uploaded it on warez site or something lolz. but ur new model owns this one :p

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: Tidus_654 on 2009-05-08 15:09:07

First of all, I'm a new user and I'm Spanish :-). When do you release your Cloud/Sephiroth Project?

Thanks.

Title: Re: Cloud Replacement Model * (Now with Sephiroth) * BUSTER SWORD RELEASE!!!
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-05-08 17:43:16

Quote from: Tidus_654 on 2009-05-08 15:09:07

First of all, I'm a new user and I'm Spanish :-). When do you release your Cloud/Sephiroth Project?

Thanks.

Quote from: NeoCloudstrife on 2009-01-18 10:24:29

Why have you two necro-bumped this thread? its not really for posting in anymore. Apz Freak has gone on to start a cloud which he will release. any questions or comments regarding him releasing stuff or making this can go here (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8035.0), i think...
He's finished that cloud now, and its only a matter of time before he does the same thing he did in this thread, apart from maybe the sephiroth.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts Cloud Battle Model
Post by: CodeERROR on 2009-09-12 09:59:43

wow! just got the game and reading some essentials about applying mods, glad this ones for download thanks... promise this won't be leaked

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts Cloud Battle Model
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-09-12 13:37:19

Quote from: CodeERROR on 2009-09-12 09:59:43

wow! just got the game and reading some essentials about applying mods, glad this ones for download thanks... promise this won't be leaked

Quote from: NeoCloudstrife on 2009-05-08 17:43:16

Quote from: Tidus_654 on 2009-05-08 15:09:07

First of all, I'm a new user and I'm Spanish :-). When do you release your Cloud/Sephiroth Project?

Thanks.

Quote from: NeoCloudstrife on 2009-01-18 10:24:29

Why have you two necro-bumped this thread? its not really for posting in anymore. Apz Freak has gone on to start a cloud which he will release. any questions or comments regarding him releasing stuff or making this can go here (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8035.0), i think...
He's finished that cloud now, and its only a matter of time before he does the same thing he did in this thread, apart from maybe the sephiroth.

He didn't release the cloud he made in this thread. Go to his new thread.

Title: Re: Kingdom Hearts Cloud Battle Model
Post by: halkun on 2009-09-12 14:39:46

Yup. You meed to go see the APZ Cloud (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8035.msg96558#msg96558) thread.