Author Topic: [FF7PC-98] Beacause - FF7 Retranslation (Merged into Reunion, use that instead)  (Read 362074 times)

Livesey

  • *
  • Posts: 148
    • View Profile
I have to say, high quality text really looks odd with low res backgrounds. TA's graphical overhall is going to be amazing.

Gemini

  • *
  • Posts: 260
  • Not learner's Guru
    • View Profile
    • Devil Hackers
Says here they are specifically a certain culture/religion.  They are certainly not regular western items. Using "Amulet" or something else completely destroys the connection to Buddhism and Shinto. Edit.  I understand the Japanese translates as "Amulet"  but Ultimania makes it clear that Omamori is intended.
The ones in FFVII aren't Shintoist or Buddhist amulets, considering they aren't based on either religion (neither exists in the FFVII world, after all). Not to mention using "omamori" is totally clueless to the player; there isn't a thing lost when you translate it to amulet, as there aren't real pictures in game other than an extra disk nobody ever bothered to check (and even in that case people would still understand it's a japanese amulet, it's not rocket science). Leaving omamori is just like leaving Barret's "Cloud-san!", no more no less. Plus, they're usually called amulets anyways and the reference would still make sense with a non japophile term.
« Last Edit: 2012-06-14 17:31:37 by Gemini »

dkma841

  • *
  • Posts: 1225
  • delete
    • View Profile
Looks pretty good!
I have to say, high quality text really looks odd with low res backgrounds. TA's graphical overhall is going to be amazing.
[offtopic] have you checked out Facepalmer field backgrounds? [/offtopic]

Livesey

  • *
  • Posts: 148
    • View Profile
Looks pretty good![offtopic] have you checked out Facepalmer field backgrounds? [/offtopic]

I have though they completely slipped my mind when I posted that.

DLPB_

  • Banned
  • *
  • Posts: 11006
    • View Profile
Using "omamori" is totally clueless to the player; there isn't a thing lost when you translate it to amulet,

There is. What is lost is the intended reference to an Omamori.

Quote
as there aren't real pictures in game other than an extra disk nobody ever bothered to check

I bothered to check it.   :-P  The same as "Glass hairpin" is made clear in Ultimania.  These things are intended by the designers.  A way around this is for me to do both.  I can call it Omamori and in description "An amulet"  but this may just be silly.  Either way I am keeping Omamori because Ultimania and the bonus disk make it clear that is what it is.  An Omamori is an amulet, but an amulet is not always an Omamori.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omamori
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amulet

It gets its own page in Wiki to differentiate


« Last Edit: 2012-06-15 01:45:41 by DLPB »

DLPB_

  • Banned
  • *
  • Posts: 11006
    • View Profile
Time for another comparison:


Old:
Code: [Select]
Junon Airport Path
------------------------------
“Eh!
Ho!”
------------------------------
“Hurry!
Hurry!!”
------------------------------
“The new President!!
He's here, he's here!!”
------------------------------
“Hey!
You still dressed like that!?
Come 'ere!”
------------------------------
“Hey! Rookie!!
Can't you hear me!!
Come over here!”
------------------------------
“Here!!
Get in the room!”
------------------------------
[Save Point]
Access the menu and select
{PURPLE}[SAVE]{WHITE} to save your game.
------------------------------
“All I wanted was to become a pilot!
I used to be speechless watching the
Highwind in the sunset!”
------------------------------
“Finished loading the Huge Materia!”{NEW}
“All we have to do now is to ready
the cargo ship,
'Gelnika', for departure and we're done!”
------------------------------
“It's kinda lonely at the airport
without the Highwind, isn't it?”{NEW}
“I miss that bikini girl
on the side of the plane.”
------------------------------
“Right now the Shinra's using it to gather the
Huge Materia from {CYAN}the Corel Reactor{WHITE}
and from {CYAN}the Fort Condor Reactor{WHITE}.”{NEW}
“The Gelnika's flying all over the place!
The only one that's not busy, is probably me!”
------------------------------
“The Shinra's collecting Huge Materia
at the {CYAN}Junon Underwater Reactor{WHITE}!”{NEW}
“When they're done,
they'll bring it to this airport.”{NEW}
“Get out of here before you get in the way!”{NEW}
“What…me?
I'm gonna be watching from here,
so that I don't get in their way either!”
------------------------------
“I'm glad we got Gelnika to
Rocket Town safely.”{NEW}
“But they sure think big.
Looks like they're going to use
the Huge Materia to break up Meteor…”
------------------------------
“The Shinra Army's gathered at Midgar.
Now it's just a matter of time
Sephiroth's dead.”{NEW}
“What…me? I don't mind.
I'll just wait here.
My life is important to me.”
------------------------------
“I finally got orders to join
the Great Sephiroth Plan.
I even get to go on the Gelnika too…”{NEW}
“But, I'm just gonna ignore them.
I wanna live to see
the end of the world.”{NEW}
“If I'm lucky…
There'll be a good place for me
in the New World.”
------------------------------
“Doesn't it bother you?
Flying around knowing that
you could die at any moment?”{NEW}
“If that's the case,
might as well live on the edge, I say.”{NEW}
“But before I can do that,
I gotta get a license first.”
------------------------------

New:
Code: [Select]
Junon Airport,Passage
------------------------------
“Eh!
Ho!”
------------------------------
“Hurry!
Hurry!!”
------------------------------
“The new President!!
The reception,the reception!!”
------------------------------
“Hey!
Still dressed like that!?
Come 'ere!”
------------------------------
“Hey! Rookie!!
You deaf or somethin'!?
I said come here!”
------------------------------
“Move it!!
Get in there!”
------------------------------
SAVE POINT
Access the menu
and select {PURPLE}Save{WHITE}
------------------------------
“I wanted to be a pilot once,you know!
…The Highwind floating in the twilight!
…It still takes my breath away!”
------------------------------
“We've finished loading
the Huge Materias!”{NEW}
“Now all that's left is to
see off the Guernica at
the airport.”
------------------------------
“It's kinda lonely at the
airport without the Highwind!”{NEW}
“I miss the girl on the fuselage…
The one in the bikini.”
------------------------------
“The Shin-Ra army is currently
away on a mission huntin' for
Huge Materia at the reactors
in {CYAN}Corel{WHITE} and {CYAN}Fort Condor{WHITE}.”{NEW}
“The Guernicas are out
in force,too! I'm the only
one not doin' anythin'!”
------------------------------
“The Shin-Ra army is currently on a
mission to recover the Huge Materia
from the {CYAN}Undersea Mako Reactor{WHITE},
right here in Junon!”{NEW}
If everything goes to plan,
it'll be loaded at the airport.”{NEW}
“You should leave
before you get in the way!”{NEW}
“What? Me?
I'm gonna be watchin' from here,
so that I don't get in their way either!”
------------------------------
“I'm glad the Guernica arrived at
Rocket Village safe and sound.”{NEW}
“…They sure think big though.
Looks like they're gonna
use the power of the Huge
Materias to destroy Meteor…”
------------------------------
“Shin-Ra's concentrated its military
might at Midgar. It's only a matter of
time now before Sephiroth meets
his maker.”{NEW}
“What? Me? I'm cool.
I'm staying in reserve,
'cause I value my life.”
------------------------------
“I finally got orders to
join Operation Sephiroth.
I'd even be able to go on
a Guernica…”{NEW}
“But why break the habit
of a lifetime? I'm just gonna
ignore 'em.
I wanna survive so I can
see the end of the world
with my own two eyes.”{NEW}
“If I'm lucky…
I'll be needed in
the new world.”
------------------------------
“Doesn't it bother you?
Flying around knowin'
you could die at any minute?”{NEW}
“If I were flyin',
I'd be living each day as if it
were my last. Well,I'd need
a licence first of course.”
------------------------------


And Wutai.  Thanks Covarr for help with older English grammar.  This is still in progress.
Old
Code: [Select]
Wutai, Godo's Pagoda
------------------------------
“…”
------------------------------
“Freeze!”
------------------------------
“You aren't from Wutai, are you?”
{CHOICE}No
{CHOICE}Yes
------------------------------
“Only those from Wutai may enter the tower!”{NEW}
“I'll have to ask for you to leave!”
------------------------------
“Hey! I can't stand liars! 
Leave this tower at once!”
------------------------------
“Oh, Miss {YUFFIE}!
Will you be climbing the pagoda today?”
{CHOICE}Yeah
{CHOICE}No way!
------------------------------
“Then I, Sacred Gorky,
will be your opponent on the first floor!”
------------------------------
“Miss {YUFFIE}!
You cannot go on to the second floor
unless you defeat me!”
------------------------------
“Yo! They call me Shake!
I'll be watchin' your fight with Gorky!”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Then, begin!”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Power Change!”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Here I am, Miss {YUFFIE}!”
------------------------------
Shake
“Hmm, I thought you were just a girl,
but you handled that pretty good!”{NEW}
“Let's see how you do on next one…”
------------------------------
Gorky
“In my opinion, you need more training!
Gorky is disappointed!”
------------------------------
Shake
“No good!
You have to beat Gorky!
Are you mocking this Pagoda?”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Of course!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Shut up! Shut up! SHADDUP!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Who's next?”
------------------------------
Shake
“Are you blind?
I'm right here!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“What?
I gotta fight a punk?”
------------------------------
Shake
“Heh! Punk.
I'm more of an adult than some bimbo girl!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Wh, what did you say!?”
------------------------------
Shake
“See what I mean?
That kind of anger's what makes you
so immature!”{NEW}
“Don't pat yourself on the back
until you beat me!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Now watch…!”
------------------------------
Shake
“'bout the only thing you do really good is breathe!
Are you sure you wanna fight?”
{CHOICE}Stop yappin'!
{CHOICE}I'll forgive you
------------------------------
“Hm, so someone finally got past Gorky.”
------------------------------
“I guess it's Chekhov's turn…”
------------------------------
Shake
“Here I go, brat!
Speed Change!”
------------------------------
Shake
“URRGRAAAAGH!
So you CAN fight a bit!”
------------------------------
Shake
“HYAAAAAAH!
BRATBRATBRATBRAT!!”
------------------------------
Shake
“You don't belong here!
This is the Wutai Temple of Martial Arts!”
------------------------------
Shake
“Hey, you there!
Don't ignore me!”
------------------------------
Shake
“So you're just talk after all.
Brat!”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“You can't go to the next floor
unless you beat Shake.”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Ho, ho, ho…
It's been a while since I felt pain…”
------------------------------
“So even Shake's been defeated.
It's been a while since you
had to fight, eh Chekhov?”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Unfortunately, this is as far as it goes.
Staniv, you watch over there.”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“That ain't going to happen!
I'll teach you about the strength of youth!”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Keep mouthing off like that, little girl,
and you're going to get burned.”
{CHOICE}I got insurance.
{CHOICE}Let's get this over, ya' old geez.
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Ho, ho, ho.
We'll see if you still talk like that
after you taste some of my Sacred Magic…”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Ho, ho, ho.
What do you expect from a child
barely out of diapers!?”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Magic Change!”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“I can't believe…you beat me.”
------------------------------
Staniv
“This should be interesting!
It's been too long since I've had
a chance to use my full power…”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Ho, ho, ho!
What does a immature child know…?”
------------------------------
Staniv
“This is the average person's limit?”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“That being the case, we have
nothing further to discuss.”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“How dare they mock us,
thinking they could sneak past us.”
------------------------------
Staniv
“First, Chekhov will keep you company…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“So you're here…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Huh? Who am I supposed to beat?”
------------------------------
Staniv
“HAAAAH!”
------------------------------
Staniv
“The rule is the best fighter on
each floor will be your opponent…
This is a five-storied pagoda,but
the fourth floor is the highest…”{NEW}
“In other words, no one has ever
defeated me--Master of Weaponry!”{NEW}
“You still want to try…?”
{CHOICE}Just come on!!
{CHOICE}I'll pass!
------------------------------
Staniv
“I like you!
Now watch…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Weapon Change!”
------------------------------
Staniv
“How unfortunate!
It was over before I could even
put all my strength into it…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Wh, what…!?”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Splendid!
You have definitely improved…”
------------------------------
Shake
“Oh, ho!
You might not be as much of a child
as we thought you were!”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Of course.
If WE lost to her…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“You have defeated four of our
best, but now you will have to
face HIM!”
------------------------------
Staniv
“If it were not for Miss {YUFFIE},
I wouldn't be facing him…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“You didn't seem like someone who could
get to the fourth floor so easily…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“D,…Dad!?”
------------------------------
Godo
“I'm glad you made it this far,
{YUFFIE}!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Why, why are you……”
------------------------------
Godo
“I'll answer you by having you
try your skills against me!”{NEW}
“Hold nothing back.
Come as if you're trying to kill me!
If you don't…then I'll have to kill you!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Dammit……”
------------------------------
Godo
“Ohhh! And what was that!?
Come back when you get more training!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“I'll show you this time, you old Fart-meister!”
------------------------------
Godo
“Hmm? A slight improvement.”
------------------------------
Godo
“Come at me with all you have!
OMNI-Change!!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“H…hey!”
------------------------------
Godo
“What are you doing!
OMNI-Change!!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“…heave…heave…”
------------------------------
Godo
“…huff…puff…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“O…old coot…
not…bad…”
------------------------------
Godo
“You've…also…improved…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Hah…Ha, ha…”
------------------------------
Godo
“…Heh, heh…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Ha ha haaaaaa!”
------------------------------
Godo
“Waha haaaaa!”
------------------------------
Godo
“It's time I gave this
to you, {YUFFIE}…”{NEW}
“This is Leviathan Materia.
Take it.”
------------------------------
Godo
“…I thought I'd give it to you,
but you have no room for it.”{NEW}
“Then, come back for it later.
And don't forget!”
------------------------------
Godo
“Leviathan Materia?
Oh! So you DID remember.”
------------------------------
“Well it's yours, go ahead and take it!”
------------------------------
“You have too much Materia!”
------------------------------
Staniv
“But, Lord Godo.
Leviathan Materia should only be given
to the person who conquers and takes
over this Pagoda.
That is our custom…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“CUSTOM, CUSTOM, CUSTOM…
I'm so sick of hearing that!”{NEW}
“It's so stupid!”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Silence, Miss {YUFFIE}!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Then what 'bout all of you?
With all your power…”{NEW}
“Are you satisfied being cooped up
in this tower?”
------------------------------
Godo
“{YUFFIE}!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“You too, Dad!
Just because you lost the war,”{NEW}
“You turned Wutai into a place like this!”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“What do you mean?”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“You turned Wutai into a cheesy resort town
peddling to tourists…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“How dare you!?
Da-chao Statue and Leviathan are ashamed!!”
------------------------------
Godo
“…”
------------------------------
Shake
“She IS a kid.”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Wh, what did you say?”
------------------------------
Godo
“{YUFFIE}!!”
------------------------------
Godo
“Forgive me…
It's all my fault…”
------------------------------
Gorky
“What are you saying,
Lord Godo!”
------------------------------
Godo
“Losing the war…turning Wutai into this.
It was all my fault…”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Lord Godo!”
------------------------------
Godo
“Silence!!”
------------------------------
Godo
“{YUFFIE}……”{NEW}
“I am the same now as I was
before when I wanted war.”{NEW}
“But, after losing,
I began to think…”{NEW}
“Is strength for beating enemies”{NEW}
“…or just something to show-off?”{NEW}
“Might begets might.”{NEW}
“The same as Shinra.”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“……”
------------------------------
Godo
“I knew you were looking for Materia
for the good of Wutai.”{NEW}
“But, the reason I hide my strength now,
is also for the good of Wutai…”{NEW}
“And now, I realize both are necessary…”{NEW}
“Strength without determination means
nothing.
And determination without strength
is equally useless…!”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Lord Godo…”
------------------------------
Godo
“You there, please take {YUFFIE}
with you!”{NEW}
“I perceive that you all have both
determination and strength!”
------------------------------
{CID}
“Well, just tell yourself you're on
a big ship, and leave the rest
to ol' {CID}!”
------------------------------
{CAIT SITH}
“If you put it that way,
we can't refuse…”
------------------------------
{RED XIII}
“As long as she doesn't interfere!”
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“All right.
We'll take her with us.”
------------------------------
{TIFA}
“…after that, how can we refuse?”
------------------------------
{VINCENT}
“Hmm…
You may come if you want to …”
------------------------------
{BARRET}
“Jus' don't do nothin'
funny to our Materia…!”
------------------------------
{CLOUD}
“All right, I don't mind.”
------------------------------
Godo
“Go, {YUFFIE}!”{NEW}
“For the sake of
Wutai!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Dad…”
------------------------------
Godo
“I'll take care of the Five Sacred Gods
until you return!”{NEW}
“Go!
And come back alive!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Duh!”
------------------------------
Godo
“{YUFFIE}, wait a minute.”
------------------------------
Godo
“After their battle is over…”{NEW}
“Do you think they'll still want
all their Materia?”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Dad…!”
------------------------------
Godo
“Go!
Fight till the end!
But come back!”{NEW}
“With the Materia!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Heh, heh…you bet!”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Miss {YUFFIE}.
Your feelings for Wutai are the same
as Lord Godo's.
Always remember that…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Please take care of Miss {YUFFIE}.”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Never bring shame on Wutai.”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“She's always like this.
It'll be rougher on you.”
------------------------------
Shake
“You say there's some unusual Materia where
the underground pipe is!?”{NEW}
“But, first you gotta get if from a monster
and unless you use your head,
you won't be able to do it.”
------------------------------
Shake
“Did that kid mature at all?”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Miss {YUFFIE}.
We pray for your success!”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Oh, you there!
How is Miss {YUFFIE} doing?”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Winning Miss {YUFFIE}'s heart
must mean you have tremendous skill.”
------------------------------
Shake
“Compared to me,
all of you are nothin' but a buncha babies.”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Managing that girl must be exceedingly
rough on you.”
------------------------------
Staniv
“I would like to fight you,
however the Five Sacred Gods can
only compete with those from Wutai…”
------------------------------
Shake
“Sh…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“…”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“…”
------------------------------
Gorky
“…”
------------------------------
Godo
“…Hm.
You can do it…”
------------------------------
Godo
“Go!
Fight till the end!
But come back!”{NEW}
“Mat-…”{NEW}
“Take care of the Materia!!”
------------------------------
Godo
“Your Mat-…”{NEW}
“I mean, please look after {YUFFIE}…!”
------------------------------
Received "Leviathan" Materia!
------------------------------

New
Code: [Select]
Pagoda of the 5 Masters
------------------------------
“…”
------------------------------
“Halt!”
------------------------------
#o 2 3
“You are not men
of Wutai,are you?”
{CHOICE}No
{CHOICE}Yes
------------------------------
“Outsiders are strictly prohibited
from entering the pagoda!”{NEW}
“I will have you leave!”
------------------------------
“Fie!
To deceive people of one's
identity is an absolute affront!
Leave the pagoda at once!”
------------------------------
#o 4 5
Gorky
“Ah,Miss {YUFFIE}!
Will you be climbing the
Pagoda of the Five Masters?”
{CHOICE}I guess so…
{CHOICE}You must be joking!
------------------------------
Gorky
“Then I,the Master of Power,
will be your opponent on the
first floor!”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Miss {YUFFIE}!
You cannot climb to
the second floor until
you defeat me!”
------------------------------
Shake
“Hi! They call me Shake!
I'm gonna be watchin'
your battle with Gorky!”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Have at you!”
------------------------------
Gorky
“I call… Power Change!”
------------------------------
Gorky
“It seems I found defeat,
Miss {YUFFIE}…!”
------------------------------
Shake
“Hmm,I thought you were just
a tomboy,but you handled
yourself pretty good!”{NEW}
“Let's see how you
do on the next floor…”
------------------------------
Gorky
“If I may pass comment?
I feel further training is in order!
You have disappointed Gorky!”
------------------------------
Shake
“No chance!
You have to beat Gorky!”{NEW}
“You tryin' to make a
mockery of our pagoda?”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Of course!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Shaddup! Shaddup! SHADDUP!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Who's next?”
------------------------------
Shake
“You blind?
I'm right here!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Huh?
A childish brat
is my opponent?”
------------------------------
Shake
“Hah! You know nothin'!
I'm more of an adult than
some dumb,little girl!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Wh-what did you say!?”
------------------------------
Shake
“Haha!
Now who's the brat,
Miss Maturity!?”{NEW}
“Don't act all big 'til
you can get past me,
the Master of Speed!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“I'll show ya…!”
------------------------------
#o 4 5
Shake
“Well,you have the fire of
an adult! Got the guts to
go with it?”
{CHOICE}Stop yer yappin'!
{CHOICE}I'll forgive you… this time
------------------------------
Chekhov
“So,
Gorky has been
defeated at last.”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“I shall watch…”
------------------------------
Shake
“Here we go,brat!
I call…  Speed Change!”
------------------------------
Shake
“Wachaaaaa!
Not bad after all!”
------------------------------
Shake
“Ahahaha!
BRAT,BRAT,BRAT!!”
------------------------------
Shake
“You don't belong here!
This is the Wutai Martial Arts'
Pagoda of the 5 Masters!”<<<<<<<<<<<<<
------------------------------
Shake
“Hey,hey!
Don't you ignore me!”
------------------------------
Shake
“So when it comes to the
crunch,you're all mouth!”{NEW}
“Just as I thought…
A big,dumb brat!”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“If you desire entry to the next floor,
you will have to defeat Shake…”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Ho,ho,ho…
So long since I was tested…
I have ached for this day.”
------------------------------
Staniv
“So,Shake hath met defeat.
Chekhov… how long hast thou waited?”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Unfortunately,her luck ends here.
Staniv,you should keep watch.”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Keep dreamin'!
I'll show you that
youth is strength!”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Little girl… foolish words
end with nasty burns.”
{CHOICE}Bring it on,I'm a pyromaniac!
{CHOICE}I dont wanna fight an old woman
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Ho,ho,ho.
Let us see how well that
impudence serves you after a
battle with the Master of Magic…”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Ho,ho,ho.
The impudence you would expect
from a child in need of weaning.”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“I call… Magic Change!”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“My techniques… dismantled.”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Intriguing…!
Much time has passed since
a display of my true power…”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Ho,ho,ho!
What can an immature
child possibly know…?”
------------------------------
Staniv
“This be the potential of man…?”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“That being the case,we have
nothing further to discuss.”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Do not make light of me
in thinking you may pass
through here unnoticed.”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Chekhov awaits thee…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“So… thou hath come…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Huh?
Just who am I against?”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Ha!”
------------------------------
#o 2 3
Staniv
“Up to the fourth level,it is our
custom to face those from above…
Verily,I consider this the summit…”{NEW}
“That is to say…
No man hath defeated me,
the Master of Martial Arts.”{NEW}
“Wouldst thou still make
the challenge,I wonder…?”
{CHOICE}You betcha!
{CHOICE}Pass! PASS!
------------------------------
Staniv
“Thou pleasest me!
Now observe…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“I call… Martial Change!”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Woe!
My true power must
remain in shadow…
------------------------------
Staniv
“How… How can this be!?”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Splendid!
You have certainly improved…”
------------------------------
Shake
“Aha!
Maybe you're not the
brat I thought you were!”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Naturally.
Even I was dealt defeat…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Thou wilt face the four
of us on the most high!”{NEW}
“Let us proceed to our audience
with the gentleman above…!”
------------------------------
Staniv
“We will not have
this audience without
Miss {YUFFIE}…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Thou hast come far…
But only through struggle
wilt thou findest verity.”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“P…pops!?”
------------------------------
Godot
“Welcome, {YUFFIE}!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Why?
Why the heck are you…?”
------------------------------
Godot
“You will question me
only with your techniques!”{NEW}
“Do not hold back.
Come at me as though you
mean to kill me! If you do not…
I will kill you!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Dammit…”
------------------------------
Godot
“What in heavens name…!?
Come back when you've
improved your technique!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“I'll show ya this time,
you old coot!”
------------------------------
Godot
“Oh?
Have you improved a measure?”
------------------------------
Godot
“Come at me with all you have!
I call… OMNI Change!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“W-wait!”
------------------------------
Godot
“Prepare yourself!
I call… OMNI Change!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“…Heave…heave…”
------------------------------
Godot
“…Huff…puff…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Not… bad…
P… Pops…”
------------------------------
Godot
“You too… have…
improved…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Hah… Haha…”
------------------------------
Godot
“…Heh,heh…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Ha,ha,ha!”
------------------------------
Godot
“Wa,ha,ha,ha…!”
------------------------------
Godot
“It is time I gave this
to you,{YUFFIE}…”{NEW}
“The Materia of
the Water God…”
------------------------------
Godot
“At least,that was my hope.
You are holding
too much Materia.”{NEW}
“Come back for it later.
And try not to forget!”
------------------------------
Godot
“Materia of the Water God…?
Oh! You remembered after all.”
------------------------------
Godot
“I have no choice…
Take it!”
------------------------------
Godot
“Well,you sure hold a
vast amount of Materia!”
------------------------------
Staniv
“But… Lord Godot…”{NEW}
“One who conquers
the Pagoda of the Five Masters…”{NEW}
“…One who receives the
Materia of the Water God…”{NEW}
“It is our custom for that person
to remain here as a new Master.”
------------------------------
#h 3
{YUFFIE}
“CUSTOM,CUSTOM,CUSTOM…
I'm so sick of hearing that word!
It's so stupid!”
------------------------------
Gorky
“You forget yourself,
Miss {YUFFIE}!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“So what 'bout all of you?
Your limited power…”{NEW}
“Are you satisfied
being cooped up all
day in this pagoda!?”
------------------------------
Godot
“{YUFFIE}…!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“You too,Dad!
All because you lost the war!”{NEW}
“Just look at what
you've done to Wutai!”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“…What does she mean?”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“You've turned Wutai into a cheesy
resort town peddling to tourists…”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“You should be ashamed!
Da Zhao Statue and
the Water God weep!!”
------------------------------
Godot
“…”
------------------------------
Shake
“Pity!
Just a brat after all!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Wh-what did you say…!?”
------------------------------
Godot
“{YUFFIE}!!”
------------------------------
Godot
“Forgive me…
It is all my fault…”
------------------------------
Gorky
“What are you saying!?
Lord Godot!?”
------------------------------
Godot
“Losing the war…
turning Wutai into this.
It was all my doing…”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Lord Godot!”
------------------------------
Godot
“Silence! All of you!!”
------------------------------
Godot
“{YUFFIE}…”{NEW}
“I was once like you are,
before I was made to know war.”{NEW}
“But after losing,
I began to think…”{NEW}
“Is strength a tool we
use to defeat our enemies?”{NEW}
“Or merely a means
to flaunt our egos…”{NEW}
“Power attracts the powerful.
That is what leads to war…”{NEW}
“And If that is so,are we
not the same as Shin-Ra…?”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“…”
------------------------------
Godot
“I understand that you seek out
Materia for the good of Wutai.”{NEW}
“But the reason I sealed my
power away was also for Wutai…”{NEW}
“I understand now…
Both are necessary.”{NEW}
“Power without will is meaningless.
And a will without power is equally
worthless…!”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Lord Godot…”
------------------------------
Godot
“You there,please allow
{YUFFIE} to accompany you!”{NEW}
“You have both the
will… and the strength!”
------------------------------
{CID}
“Well,you can put your mind
at ease. Leave it to ol' {CID}!”
------------------------------
{CAIT SITH}
“Since you put it like that,
I guess we can't refuse…”
------------------------------
{RED XIII}
“As long as she
doesn't bother us…!”
------------------------------
{AERIS}
“All right.
We'll take her with us.”
------------------------------
{TIFA}
“…After hearing that,
how can we refuse?”
------------------------------
{VINCENT}
“Hmph…
Come with us if you wish…”
------------------------------
{BARRET}
“But I don't want no funny
business with my Materia…!”
------------------------------
{CLOUD}
“All right.
I don't mind.”
------------------------------
Godot
“Go,{YUFFIE}!”{NEW}
“So that the true power
of Wutai may flourish!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Dad…”
------------------------------
Godot
“I will lead the Five Masters
until your return!”{NEW}
“Go!
And come back alive!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Duh!”
------------------------------
Godot
“Hold.”
------------------------------
Godot
“The Materia those people
have in their possession…”{NEW}
“Once the battle is over,
will they still have need for it?”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Dad…!”
------------------------------
Godot
“Go! Fight to the end!
And return…”{NEW}
“…with the Materia!”
------------------------------
{YUFFIE}
“Hehehe…
Count on it!”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Miss {YUFFIE}.
Thy feelings for Wutai
are shared by Lord Godot.
Please forget that not…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“I beg of you…
Please look after
Miss {YUFFIE}.”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Do not bring shame on
the good name of Wutai.
Go now… and fight.”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“That girl is incapable of change.
A long toil awaits you…”
------------------------------
Shake
“I've heard there's a rare
item in an underwater pipe!”{NEW}
“But… they say
you gotta use your head to
get it from some monster…”
------------------------------
Shake
“Has that little
brat grown up yet?”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Miss {YUFFIE}.
We will pray for your
continued fortune in battle!”
------------------------------
Gorky
“Ah,you there!
How fares Miss {YUFFIE}?”
------------------------------
Gorky
“If you have won Miss
{YUFFIE}'s heart,you too must
possess tremendous skill.”
------------------------------
Shake
“You guys are a buncha
amateurs compared to me.”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“Having that girl as a
companion must prove
tiresome?”
------------------------------
Staniv
“Alas… as much as I desire battle,
the Five Masters may compete
only with men of Wutai…”
------------------------------
Shake
“Man…”
------------------------------
Staniv
“…”
------------------------------
Chekhov
“…”
------------------------------
Gorky
“…”
------------------------------
Godot
“…Oh.
You're not too bad…”
------------------------------
Godot
“Go!
Fight to the end!
And return…”{NEW}
“With the Ma…”{NEW}
“…the Materia
I gave you!!”
------------------------------
Godot
“Please take care of that Ma…”{NEW}
“…MADAM!”
------------------------------
Obtained
{RED}Leviathan{WHITE} Materia!
------------------------------


« Last Edit: 2012-06-15 11:40:19 by DLPB »

WInd Owl

  • Guest
Just wanted to thank you guys for dumping the Japanese text. I'm playing the Japanese version (my first playthrough of FF7... , etc.) and it's a lot easier to copy/paste than to type in or draw unknown words/kanji to look them up.

DLPB_

  • Banned
  • *
  • Posts: 11006
    • View Profile
Comparison video (Wutai pagoda):

Before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IvoutDXQlE

After
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q81b5bgIysc

I will be making a few of these for publicity and to get people understanding how lousy the original translation actually is.
« Last Edit: 2012-06-16 08:14:07 by DLPB »

Gemini

  • *
  • Posts: 260
  • Not learner's Guru
    • View Profile
    • Devil Hackers
I bothered to check it.   :-P  The same as "Glass hairpin" is made clear in Ultimania.  These things are intended by the designers.  A way around this is for me to do both.  I can call it Omamori and in description "An amulet"  but this may just be silly.  Either way I am keeping Omamori because Ultimania and the bonus disk make it clear that is what it is.  An Omamori is an amulet, but an amulet is not always an Omamori.
Ultimania and the bonus disk were not created by the team that worked on FFVII, it was outsourced and most assets were created for just the purpose defined by said disk (notice the models for the Buggy and the Highwind, definitively not coming from game assets). In other words, it's not exactly something you'd want to refer to as accurate information as it's probably something coming from Famitsu or whoever took care of assembling all the data to create the guide and the disk. The original designers, programmers, producers, etc. had barely any role in the material you're basing your nomenclature off. Fun fact: I've never seen a sketch of the regular items coming from Nomura of whoever was assigned to additional designs.
« Last Edit: 2012-06-16 17:31:03 by Gemini »

luksy

  • *
  • Posts: 375
    • View Profile
http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=ja&source=hp&q=お守り&gbv=2&oq=お守り

They simply would have used another word if they didn't want the audience to think of an omamori imho. Considering the vast amount of references to other religions and cultures (Longinus? Da Zhao?) I can't help but think this was a conscious decision. Ultimania and the extra disc aren't the be-all and end-all of ffvii documentation (a couple of things are flat out wrong), but they're still useful as a reference (as is some of the other Square media).

In any case I doubt anyone at Square gave a single accessory nearly as much thought as we currently are  :)
« Last Edit: 2012-06-17 11:36:36 by luksy »

WInd Owl

  • Guest
Have you guys considered changing "PHS" to something like "Party" or "Edit Party"?

It's kind of awkward as it is considering it stands for Party Hensei System.

luksy

  • *
  • Posts: 375
    • View Profile
I think that's a backronym as nothing of the sort is mentioned ingame, I'll check the manual when I get home.

Personal Handy System usage was at its peak when ffvii was released so I think it's more plausible.

DLPB_

  • Banned
  • *
  • Posts: 11006
    • View Profile
There is no need to change it from PHS, since it works fine as it is.  Even if you have no idea what it stands for you know it is a system that allows you contact with other members.  The dialogue makes it much clearer too.  There is also a space limit in menu and anything other than PHS will look odd.

Livesey

  • *
  • Posts: 148
    • View Profile
Also it would look awkward if Barrett said "hand me your 'EDIT PARTY' so it doesn't get wet" before you jump up the tower with mr dolphin.

DLPB_

  • Banned
  • *
  • Posts: 11006
    • View Profile
etc.  Anyway that one is cleared up.  It stays.

luksy

  • *
  • Posts: 375
    • View Profile
The manual does indeed call it Party Hensei System, still it's an obvious pun on the cellphone wannabe system and it'd be hard to integrate into dialogue as Livesey points out.

DLPB_

  • Banned
  • *
  • Posts: 11006
    • View Profile
I think I can sum this project up:   :o

Quote
Rufus
“…You better do something.
   I'll be expecting results.”

 ;D

spy__dragon

  • *
  • Posts: 96
    • View Profile
I have a doutb about translation. In FF VII japanese version, the character Cait Sith does speak with acent of Osaka?
In English version, does speak in Scotish accent?
But when Reeve works in Shinra, does speak acent normal?

Greetings!

DLPB_

  • Banned
  • *
  • Posts: 11006
    • View Profile
His accent is fixed in this translation.  Both Reeve and Cait. This project is not yet complete.  See first post.

knightsoftheround

  • *
  • Posts: 256
    • View Profile
    • Online Art Gallery
On the Reeve/Cait Sith thing, I'd only give them both the Scottish thing if they both had the Osaka dialect in the Japanese version. Otherwise I'd only give the accent to the one with the Osaka dialect. If there was that sort of division in the Japanese version, I think it should be maintained. If there wasn't, neeevermind. XD

DLPB_

  • Banned
  • *
  • Posts: 11006
    • View Profile
They are both kansai because it is reeves parents.  Therefore both should be Scottish.  Reeve is not Scottish (he uses a generic city accent), Cait is.  We are not doing anything with the translation that changes fact.
« Last Edit: 2012-06-20 10:29:59 by DLPB »

saftle

  • *
  • Posts: 88
    • View Profile
This is in no way an attempt to rush you with this project, but is there a chance of "R04" being released before the end of the month so that it can be included in the next bootleg configurator?

DLPB_

  • Banned
  • *
  • Posts: 11006
    • View Profile
Likely.

saftle

  • *
  • Posts: 88
    • View Profile
I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks for the quick response.

WInd Owl

  • Guest
Are you guys keeping Reno's verbal tic somehow (…、と)?

Just curious as to how that would work if it all.