Author Topic: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods and Modding Framework-The Reunion [R06f]  (Read 3008859 times)

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1200 on: 2015-03-30 23:53:03 »
It alters a big list of files.  Stuff that will conflict are the flevel patches as my mod uses the base battle tables and such.  Also the exe is edited with the libre 3 for limits.  Also the kernel files are added to.  Mostly I'll just have to edit the text and only three items are added to get the ultimate weapon.  Also edited the scene.bin to replace most of the Jenova battles.  I will not change anything except the scripting and make sure the boss edited shows up properly as Red Dragon replaces the Scorpion fight.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1201 on: 2015-03-31 00:00:06 »
If you want to edit things to get them working with your mod, then do so and add credit and link to this thread.  I'd really advise against it though since the sheer hell you will go through to get everything working properly is probably not worth it.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1202 on: 2015-04-07 03:34:25 »
I haven't been too pleased with the barrier glyphs in game.  Whilst it was fun to add them I don't think they fit in with the game style.  So in next installer, there will be an option to choose a more fitting barrier gauge, which I have just created now ;) 

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1203 on: 2015-04-07 22:24:50 »
Is the traditional barrier gauge making it's glorious return?

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1204 on: 2015-04-10 01:01:22 »
I'm in Cosmo Canyon, and after Bugenhagen sends you to find someone to go into his machine, the guy at the entrance says the following:

"Have you seen Master Bugenhagen's machine? If you haven't, you really ought to do."

I'm guessing that the word 'do' is actually supposed to be 'go'. Either that, or the word 'do' shouldn't be there at all.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1205 on: 2015-04-10 08:06:57 »
Melancholy is right here. The best action would be to simply remove 'do' though.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1206 on: 2015-04-10 11:52:29 »
I suppose "to do" could sound a little funny even though it is acceptable speech.  I'll remove "do" though.  Although, if this is one of the elders or so on, they would speak a little more like Bugenhagen... a bit more refined.  It can still be removed.
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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1207 on: 2015-04-10 12:26:41 »
I've never seen "you really ought to do" by itself like that. I've seen "you really ought to" and "you really ought to do so", but never just "to do", unless it's "It's something you really ought to do". There's also "you really ought do so" or "it's something you really ought do", which sound more archaic to me.

Edit: I guess "it's something" is implied here; after writing this post it doesn't look as weird to me anymore, albeit still a bit strange.
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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1208 on: 2015-04-11 02:56:51 »
'You really ought to do so' sounds the best.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1209 on: 2015-04-11 06:09:16 »
"You really ought to" sounds the best in my opinion. Here's a good reference as well: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ought

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1210 on: 2015-04-11 14:16:27 »
I am obviously with saftle here.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1211 on: 2015-04-14 14:06:09 »
I have seen a translation mistake in the field mktpb.

Here:
---TEXT016---
{AERIS}
“Excuse me… Are you the father
  of the girl at the clothes store?”

Really, is not a girl. Because if you go in the field mkt_s1, the model is named as "man1".

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1212 on: 2015-04-14 14:12:24 »
It's exceedingly unlikely that we translated that wrong.  It could be that the original Japanese is wrong, though.  I will check.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1213 on: 2015-04-14 14:47:16 »
In Japanese doesn't say nothing about a "girl". Only says "father".

{AERIS}
「あの~、服屋の親父さん、ですよね?」

It could be translated too as "owner". But really is "father".
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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1214 on: 2015-04-14 17:57:50 »
In Japanese doesn't say nothing about a "girl". Only says "father".

{AERIS}
「あの~、服屋の親父さん、ですよね?」

It could be translated too as "owner". But really is "father".

Looks like I stand corrected (that'll teach me for being over confident).  I'll show to Luksy as always :)  Not sure how that error has crept in there.  Perhaps a remnant from the original translation that was overlooked?

Ah... now I see how.  It's before Luksy and I changed our strategy and also became a duo. We changed from using old method after WallMarket.

edit...

Yeah, it's MY fault.  I missed it (hence the original game translation has remained.  Where the fern did they get girl from???). This was taken from the excel document we used to use.

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Excuse me, you're the old man from the clothes shop, right?
Hey~ you're the old man from the clothes store, right?
This line is sorta hard to carry over in english. Oyaji is a general term for older men, but it can also mean father.

The excel way of doing things was long, grueling and not fit for purpose.  A guy called Herman matched up all the Japanese with the English too... it took him ages.  Sad that all that time was utterly wasted. 

I am pretty sure the line should read "father" because you find out from the son that that is who he is.  Perhaps they mistook the person as a female...
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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1215 on: 2015-04-14 22:50:40 »
Corrected:

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{AERIS}
“Excuse me…
  Are you the father of the man
  working at the clothes store?”
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“Yeah,yeah,I own the store…
  But I ain't your father.”

It's "father" because the man at the clothes store tells you who it is and who you are looking for.

Thanks for that correction...  That was a major mistake.
« Last Edit: 2015-04-14 22:56:43 by DLPB »

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1216 on: 2015-04-15 03:45:44 »
Any ETA for 03c, DLPB?

This latest correction is pretty important...

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1217 on: 2015-04-15 03:54:55 »
Not sure. This month, though.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1218 on: 2015-04-15 08:17:41 »
DLPB I have other doubt, in the Gonjun2, where Leno and Rude are talking about girls.
There are the texts:

---TEXT007---
Leno
“O-oh…”
---TEXT008---
Leno
“So we're in the same boat,eh?
  Like we even have a chance with them…”


In japanese is some different:
レノ
「な、なるほど……と」
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レノ
「つらいところだな、あんたも」

In japanese the meaning is different. Especially, the text 8 which says something about "is a hard cuestion".

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1219 on: 2015-04-15 15:00:56 »
The meaning can sometimes be different from the literal, though. Sometimes to make it work in English I've had to change slightly.  Do you speak Japanese, I forget?  I'll pass it to Luksy though ;)
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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1220 on: 2015-04-15 17:59:11 »
I know a bit japanese, I wish be as Lusky, he surely knows it more than me. :)

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1221 on: 2015-04-15 19:52:57 »
If may I ask that,is there any way to play the Reunion together with music mod? (ficedula launches ff7.exe while Reunion modifications are done by ff7+.exe)

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1222 on: 2015-04-16 00:57:08 »
If may I ask that,is there any way to play the Reunion together with music mod? (ficedula launches ff7.exe while Reunion modifications are done by ff7+.exe)

I'm not sure why you are using ficedula when Aali's driver now handles music... but if you want to do that just change settings.ini in HL_files.  Change it so you are launching with ficedula and the process is process=FF7.exe

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1223 on: 2015-04-16 01:22:01 »
I'm not sure why you are using ficedula when Aali's driver now handles music... but if you want to do that just change settings.ini in HL_files.  Change it so you are launching with ficedula and the process is process=FF7.exe
Older version of Aali's driver is still required for many mods out there, including bootleg. This'll become less of a problem over time, but some things may never be updated as their authors have disappeared.

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Re: [FF7PC-98-Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R03b)
« Reply #1224 on: 2015-04-16 04:46:38 »
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14914.msg225487#msg225487

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