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Title: What work do you do?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-05-23 07:34:56
Since I was wondering what everyone here does for a living I thought I'd make a topic about it.
It's kinda useless but for one, my job is fun.

Anyway, I'm a system-administrator for a company that makes roofs for giantic buildings.
The company is quite small so I only have about 10 computers and 2 servers to look out for.

It's quite easy and gets me some good money (7,50€ / hour).
I do this as a side-job though because I'm still in school.

What about you?
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: mirex on 2006-05-23 12:47:48
I work as programmer. I already switched job 3 times but I still do programming stuff ... Win32 & MFC & C++, or Rhapsody & Linux & C++ ... Right now I'm in a company creating an simulation technology mainly for military department.

My wage is alot lower than yours chaoscontrol, because I live in easetern europe, which is still taken as region of cheap workers. No hate for that though.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Qhimm on 2006-05-23 13:23:49
I too work as a programmer (bet no one guessed that!), but contrary to mirex this is my first and only "real" job after my Master of Science studies. My degree isn't done yet, but I plan to finish it while working. Honestly! :P

I work at Opera Software (http://www.opera.com), developing the world's best web browser (brought to you by the world's most modest developers). You are using it, right? I can tell which ones of you are good-natured users by looking at the site logs, so the next time I pull them up I want to see a higher share than a few measly percent! :-D

I'm not personally involved with the desktop browser though, I help with the porting and development for mobile platforms. So don't come to me with feature requests. :P Regarding salary, I won't mention mine out of modesty (that, and I'm too lazy to convert from monthly to hourly figures, and into euros, and wondering about tax). It's a wee bit higher than the previous guys, but then again this is my full-time job these days.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: spyrojyros_tail on 2006-05-23 13:46:52
Heh im just finished my degree so I dont have any work related to my degree. But I work as an apprentice bookkeeper, we do accounts mainly for solicitors and we are pretty damn good at it too. Its a family buisness set up and run by my dad. So thats what i will be doing for the rest of my life possibly, but im really interested in the e-learning side of things so ill be doing some projects like that on the side. Im not gonna mention my wage tho!!

7.65€/hour is minimum wage in Ireland, you guys should be paid a shitload more for the work your doing (although i think Dublin is the third/second most expensive place to live in europe so the minimum wage could be justified...). I heard of a job in London (you had to have 2 years experience in Macromedia Director and maybe some flash) and it paid £45,000 a year, now Director isnt as hard as either of your jobs, but it pays truckloads of money.  :evil:

I know its not all about the money..... but a big big part of it is!!
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: L. Spiro on 2006-05-23 14:01:51
Unlike the others, I work as a programmer.

Originally born in America, I decided wheat is lame and left Kansas for good.
I went over an ocean and fell into Bangkok, where I began making video games.

My involvement was absolutely 100% necessary (!) for the successful completions of the following titles:
Ghost Recon 2 Online (Ubisoft).
Petz 5 (Ubisoft).
Heroes of Might and Magic, Heroes of Might and Magic 2, Heroes of Might and Magic 3 (Ubisoft, formerly 3DO).
187 Ride or Die (Ubisoft).
Flying Toaster: After Dark (Vivendi Universal).
Leisure Suit Larry [Unreleased, Unnamed] (Vivendi Universal).
Some others (Others).


Although my wage isn’t particularly special, it levels out very well with the economics of Bangkok; considering my 8th-floor, air-conditioned, fully furnished, cable-enabled room costs $125 per month, I make way more than I need (unfortunately the American government is sucking it all up right now).
Benefits include a performance-based monthly bonus (my bonus last month was $350; the highest ever in the company), and all-expense-paid world travel (my job has sent me to Malaysia for a game conference, Paris, and Marseilles, with my room overlooking the Mediterranean, etc.)


My first job in America involved making software to make web pages.
It was quite boring, and I left.
I was unable to find another IT job in Kansas, so I left.
Now I have become quite addicted to working all over the world, so should I ever be forced back to America it would be temporary.  I would probably apply at the company in France where I worked for a while or at Rareware in England.
Ultimately I will land in Tokyo and live for the rest of my life there.


L. Spiro
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-05-23 14:19:23
7.65€/hour is minimum wage in Ireland
Minimum for what age? I'm 18 At the moment and the minimum paycheck for a 18 year old here is only 5,50€ so I think I'm doing pretty well ^_^.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Jedimark on 2006-05-23 17:10:25
I would tell you who I work for but I'd have to kill you afterwards :p
And I aint tellin' you my salary either...
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: spyrojyros_tail on 2006-05-23 17:40:50
That minimum wage applies to people over 18 (usually thats what you get paid but technically you have to be employed for two years to earn that amount), anyone under 18 gets paid about 5.30€/hour. L Spiro your job sounds sweet with all the benifits, "all expenses paid" have to be the three nicest words in the english language next to "i love you". Oh and you wouldnt have a hope in hell finding an appartment for that price anywhere in Ireland, I pay about €50 a week for my student accomodation and that is very very cheap considering the normal single room, single bed and house shared with about 4 different people is about 60 - 80 a week, and thats usually for a crap house too. That coupled with everything else costing over the odds (taxi's, food, drink) means that 7.65 here is the minimum you need to survive.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: M0T on 2006-05-23 18:03:26
Last year (From my 18th to just after my 19th birthday) I worked as a Project Support Assistant for Homebase (UK DIY chain), my first ever job and it was general officey type work.

Had a wage of €22,346 PA which works out as €11.65 an hour.

Now I am a geography student at the university of london kings college.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: ficedula on 2006-05-23 19:15:56
If I wanted to be different I could claim I'm a manager, but really I'm a programmer ;)  Officially, Head of Development for Keystone Software Development (http://www.khaoscontrol.com), while technically that means I'm in charge of the other programmers and spend time arguing with our customers over how much development costs, I thankfully also spend a lot of my time programming - almost entirely in Delphi.

The chances are reasonably good that if you live in the UK you've bought/drank/eaten a product from a company using our software - particularly if you drink tea ;) - but you probably don't know it...
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Covarr on 2006-05-23 19:39:12
I'm perhaps one of the youngest people here that knows how not to say "help i need patch for crash in chocobos racing lol plz".

I'm only 17, and I graduate high school in about two weeks. During the summer break, I'll probably be doing some landscaping to earn money for college.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: M0T on 2006-05-23 20:31:53
Keystone Software Development (http://www.khaoscontrol.com)

Is that like SAP but better (Well I could do better stock control in my head than sap but you get the idea)?
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Sukaeto on 2006-05-23 20:32:29
I just started my summer internship yesterday.  I'm making 10.31USD/hr writing scripts at a hospital about 5 minutes away from my house.

When I'm done with all my degrees (I've got a ways to go yet), I'll be teaching at a University somewhere.

---Edit---

ugh . . . SAP.  You're right, MOT.  I think most of us COULD do better in our heads than SAP.  SAP absolutely SUCKS.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Alhexx on 2006-05-23 20:44:29
Well, unlike most of the other guys here, I'm not working as a programmer. :-D

I'm currently 22, studying mathematics and computer science at University of Dortmund (http://www.uni-dortmund.de).

I often work in the company where my dad works, named HJS (http://www.hjs.com/english), producing car exhaust systems, catalysators and silencers (for cars, not for guns).
It's well known for producing the so called Sintered Metal Filters, which are build in into many modern diesel cars.
If you buy a new VW with a diesel engine, you have a good chance that my dad once had one part of your car in his hands... :-o

I usually work there at night, because they pay more money :)
When working at night, I get ~ 11,50€ per hour.


I have never been working as a programmer yet, however, one of our professors at university said, that they are planning a project for multiplying big matrices, similar to the Strassen's Algorithm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strassen%27s_algorithm), but for Band-Matrices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Band_matrix), and they were looking for a programmer to help them...
Maybe I'll get that job.

 - Alhexx
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: ficedula on 2006-05-23 21:11:39
Is that like SAP but better (Well I could do better stock control in my head than sap but you get the idea)?

Yeah, not too far off. General business management software, including stock control, although we specialise in mail order processing. I've never seen SAP (I presume that's a good thing from the comments...) although I assume that naturally our product is better :P

Incidentally, I'm hiring at the moment, so if there's any Delphi developers need a job in East/North-east England, drop me a line... ;) </advert>
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Relf on 2006-05-23 22:21:58
I am unemployed, not uncommon for people in this area 16 years of age. So unlike the rest of you, the extraordinarily low end programming I do is for free. Though I could charge my fellow peers for the programs I write to answer my math homework


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Heroes of Might and Magic 3

A toast to you, I loved that game, still play it on occasion.

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I would tell you who I work for but I'd have to kill you afterwards :p
And I aint tellin' you my salary either...

For those of us who already know, should we start locking our doors at night?

Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: M0T on 2006-05-23 22:43:05
I've never seen SAP (I presume that's a good thing from the comments...) although I assume that naturally our product is better :P


Its the little things that make the difference in SAP, for instance if you make a load of changes of products (i.e. locations, new products, removing old ones) and it encounters an error (somethings on that location etc) it will lose everything since you last saved. Wouldn't be a problem but on the systems we had a sap save took about a minute (and I would be adding in sometimes hundreds of product lines), surely it could just ask to correct the location without throwing a hissy fit?

There were also about 3 different ways to bring up the same information with each one being progressively less usefull than the last.

Oooh also the way we ran sap it was on an overnight update, i.e. You can make changes but they wouldn't show in stores until the next day - Its a good idea because it stops all the tills in store buggering up when the systems change something (which would happen). Except that half the changes you made would not get actioned overnight because of a program bug, so you would have to wait a day until the system updated to sell products that have been sat in the warehouse for 24 hours wasting money.

Apparently it was marginally better than the oracle system that preceeded it, but unless oracle stabbed you in the face I'm not sure how.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Alhexx on 2006-05-23 23:10:49
Mmmmm.... that SAP seems to be a nice piece of well-coded software...  :-P

 - Alhexx

- Off-Topic Edit -
M0T:
It seems like you're the only member on this board who was loyal to his avatar for, erm, how long? 4 Years, right?
That's impressive!

 - Off-Topic Edit #2 -
Hm, I also remember mirex using his avatar from the very beginning...

Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: M0T on 2006-05-23 23:25:10
It wasn't that long, about 2 years I think, I had the bashing xbox for a while...then I bought an xbox.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: The SaiNt on 2006-05-24 04:30:50
I'm 23, working in Sydney, Australia, originally from Petaling Jaya, Malaysia.

Work at Capital Markets CRC (http://www.cmcrc.com/) writing Java software for visualisation (mostly OpenGL) of commercial data for financial analysis.
Basically working on these two projects at the moment:
http://www.cmcrc.com/products/accountingx.html
http://www.cmcrc.com/products/auditx.html

Used to work in Vislab at the University of Sydney on a project that some of you might / might not know about.
http://wiki.vislab.usyd.edu.au/moinwiki/Lumino

Paywise, it's a reasonable amount to live comfortably, but work keeps me busy most of the time, mainly why I don't do so much "side work" nowadays.
Free time gets allocated to playing some games, or other recreational activities.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: mirex on 2006-05-24 07:28:09
Oh I forgot to show you what our company is doing, here: http://www.vrm.sk/  (its mostly simulation technology)

Quote from: L.Spiro
My involvement was absolutely 100% necessary (!) for the successful completions of the following titles:

Heroes of Might and Magic was released in year 1995 .. like 11 years ago. You mean you've been working on it back then ? Or do you mean that your company was porting the game somewhere, for example on GameBoy ? I see that release date on Gameboy is year 2000.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-05-24 07:46:46
Well I work at www.repon.nl (www.roofengarden.nl).
It doesnt have much to do with my work, me being only the system admin..

But they make roofs and roof-gardens (you guessed it).

The people are fun (especially when complaining something aint working and it being their own fault).
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: kini on 2006-05-24 08:41:32
hay qhimm are you part of the team making Opera Software for the nintendo DS, i was realy looking forward to the DS browser

im currently at university studying internet technology, its very time consuming, i havent had a full weekend off in about 2 months due to course work :( but in 2 weeks i have a whole month or so off , ive been programming mainly in java, c# vb.net and a few others
i started editing games when pokemon came out, so im left behind with the 2d world.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: L. Spiro on 2006-05-24 10:42:48
I was involved with the re-release of the whole series under Ubisoft instead of 3DO.

We had to remove all cases of 3DO from the games and reorganize them for the install disks.

I found that Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and Heroes of Might and Magic 2 play their music from the disks, so we were unable to put them on the same DVD.


While asking my boss about the results of that project (whether it has been released or not) I found out we were paid for that project just Monday, and that we were also involved with Ubisoft’s King Kong game.
Interesting; I didn’t even know we did anything for that game.


L. Spiro
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: zero88 on 2006-05-24 11:27:04
I'm perhaps one of the youngest people here that knows how not to say "help i need patch for crash in chocobos racing lol plz".

I'm only 17, and I graduate high school in about two weeks. During the summer break, I'll probably be doing some landscaping to earn money for college.


You're only 17 and graduating? Are you from the U.S.?

Everybody I know, myself included, is generally 18 or older when they graduate (I'm 18, graduate Sunday, 19 before the end of the year). I guess there are certain circumstances, starting school at an early age, getting bumped up, etc. etc.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Lieron on 2006-05-24 14:07:16
Meh, I'm 16 (Birthday is on July 18) and I'm a junior in high school.
Atm, I just work for my parents on the weekeends selling stuff at conventions.. generally its like US$30 an hour or so (I get paid base + commision)

(and zero shoudl learn to use quote 0.o)
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: RPGillespie on 2006-05-24 18:21:34
It is possible to graduate from high school early as long as you have enough math/english/"social science" etc. credits.

Anyways, I work for the US Air Force as a civilian food service worker (WG-03). It's just my summer job betwixt my high school grades, and it currently fetches me $10.50 an hour. Pretty good, but I can only have the job for 9 weeks before I go back to school...
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Relf on 2006-05-24 20:02:33
In Canada, graduating at 17 is not uncommon.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: zero88 on 2006-05-24 20:38:12
It is possible to graduate from high school early as long as you have enough math/english/"social science" etc. credits.

Anyways, I work for the US Air Force as a civilian food service worker (WG-03). It's just my summer job betwixt my high school grades, and it currently fetches me $10.50 an hour. Pretty good, but I can only have the job for 9 weeks before I go back to school...

I know how to quote, it's not difficult, I'm just used to GameFAQs quoting. Sorry for...upsetting you, I guess :?

Anyway, I attend a parochial school, and it's pretty damned difficult to get all the credits in before Senior year. I don't even think it can happen at the public school, either. That, or the kids there lack the motivation :-P
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Lieron on 2006-05-25 00:16:34
Nah, I had to warn you before Jari sees it 0.o
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Covarr on 2006-05-25 01:14:40
I actually started homeschooled, and started early enough to graduate last year. When I went into public school, they bumped me back from fourth grade to third grade so that I would be able to better fit in.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: ye-roon on 2006-05-25 10:28:50
I'm 22, and i work as a postman/mailman what ever you wanna call it :p And currently in college towards becoming a math teacher. The postman job pays me roughly €9 an hour wich is pretty nice seeing as it tops the the minimum wage for my age by alot :) But am currently in the process of rethinking my life. And i might aswell end up as an airtraffic controller, i allready passed the first 2 interviews, only the 3rd is left and i become learning airtraffic controller earning €22,000 a year and when i'm done, €45,000 a year and when i am good! then it can go up to €100,000 a year excluding bonusses. Money isnt all that important, but in holland right now, iots best to be earning some more cause there are some strange times commin up.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-05-25 13:00:09
Meh, I'm 16 (Birthday is on July 18) and I'm a junior in high school.
Atm, I just work for my parents on the weekeends selling stuff at conventions.. generally its like US$30 an hour or so (I get paid base + commision)

(and zero shoudl learn to use quote 0.o)
Lol, your birthday is on the same day as mine O_o
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Lazybones on 2006-06-04 05:18:06
I'm the system admin for a credit card company that sells, programs, maintains, and does tech support for credit card machines.  It's pretty enjoyable, and the people I work with are great.  Plus they give me a lot of money because I know more about computers than most -if not all- of them.   :-D
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Enya on 2006-06-04 12:16:19
Job? Homeworks mostly
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Izban on 2006-06-10 04:51:18
I'm something of a jack of all trades this quarter I'm involved in data collection last quarter I was a teacher, and im lined up to be a truckie next quarter.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Jedimark on 2006-06-10 09:59:44
Performance review = pay rise :D £££
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Qhimm on 2006-06-11 10:28:38
Performance review = pay rise :D £££
Bah... I started work just a month before the company's yearly performance review, hence I got none, hence no salary increase, hence I'm actually working at last year's salary level [for new employees], which means that I might get permanently stuck one year behind on my salary development. :( In contrast, the people who started work one month later than me have higher salary than me, and will probably remain that way... Grr!  :x :-P
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Emerald Weapon on 2006-06-11 10:44:48
That sounds pretty unfair to me. And perhaps even illegal. But is probably isn't.

Thing is, people who started one month after you now get a higher salary, because there were performance reviews before they started at your company. Then, that would mean salaries have been raised throughout your entire firm, otherwise they'd be earning the same amount as you do. And that would logically lead to the conclusion that you should get a raise too, right?

Hmm, come think of it. You've probably signed a contract for a certain salary. That would explain, otherwise I don't understand. But that could be my ignorance.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: jamesyfx on 2006-06-11 13:55:02
I turn 19 in about 2 weeks.

I'm an IT Specialist. I repair computer hardware and solve software and hardware issues with them.

So. My computer is.. shall we say. Unique.

Hehe. =)

I also do a bit of charity work.

I'm also a graphic and web designer. Forgot to mention that.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Jedimark on 2006-06-11 17:33:16
What's most annoying is there's this other guy at work who does the same job as me but because he has a Masters degree and I finished after my undergraduate degree he gets way more money than me. Yet we do exactly the same thing. :@
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Lieron on 2006-06-11 19:41:16
But think how much money he spent on getting that degree
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: Jedimark on 2006-06-11 21:09:44
But think how much money he spent on getting that degree
Hey, not my problem. Same job should = same pay.
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: L. Spiro on 2006-06-12 02:41:02
I forgot to mention my second job.

I do the voices for some Thai English learning CD’s.
CD’s to help Thai kids learn English.


L. Spiro
Title: Re: What work do you do?
Post by: ChaosControl on 2006-06-14 01:51:34
I just got a 2nd job today, as of now on, i will also be know as "The Cleaner"

Cus I now clean offices... Including my own O___o (long story)

needz0r the money