IS isn't a caliphate. It desires to be one and to own enough land / control to be a legitimate one. Saudi doesn't recognize IS as a true caliphate. That's the thing - that's why some of the crazy lunatic countries like Saudi and Iran will fight IS - despite agreeing with their overall message. IS undermine their authority.
DLPB, the one true authority on Islam who couldn't tell the difference between Sunni and Shia. You're acting like those liberals who are 100% authorities on Islam, even more so than actual Muslims themselves who kill Europeans in the name of Islam.
If IS declares that they are a caliphate, I'm inclined to believe them. If it looks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, if it acts like a duck, and if other ducks around the world treat it as if it is a duck - then it's probably a duck.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/06/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-isisBaghdadi was born Ibrahim Awad al-Badari in 1971 near Samarra, a city 50 miles north of Baghdad. He took a master's degree and a PhD in Islamic studies at the University of Islamic Sciences in the Baghdad suburb of Adhamiya. When the US invaded Iraq in March 2003, the pious Baghdadi was still studying and was not thought to be connected to either al-Qaida or its local offshoot in the early years of resistance.
http://news.siteintelgroup.com/blog/index.php/entry/226-the-story-behind-abu-bakr-al-baghdadiA professor, teacher, former educator, recognized preacher, and a graduate of the Islamic University in Baghdad, where he finished his academic studies (BA, MA and PhD). He is known as a preacher and a person of knowledge in Islamic culture, Shariah knowledge, and jurisprudence, and possessing vast knowledge of history and lineage. He had extensive relationships and a clear influence on members of his tribe in Diyala and Samarra, to the extent that they declared, by their own free will and their total certainty, their pledge allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and its first emir, Abu Omar al-Baghdadi al-Qurashi. They pledged allegiance to the Emir and his State when it was first created and appeared on the jihadi battlefield in Iraq in the official declaration of the State in the last ten days of Ramadan 2006. Afterwards, Dr. Ibrahim Awwad was recognized as one of the most prominent figures of Salafist Jihadism and its most recognized proponent in Diyala and in the city of Samarra through the Mosque of Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal, may Allah have mercy on him.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28560449Turki al-Binali's tract continued by highlighting that prior to the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, Baghdadi received his PhD from the Islamic University of Baghdad, with a focus on Islamic culture, history, sharia, and jurisprudence.
Do you have a PhD in Islamic Studies? Technically you've lived your entire life in the Caliphate of Albion, but he lived in Iraq and later Syria his entire life. He's a little closer to the source of Islam than even your average Londonian.
Besides that, Saudi Arabia is doing a shit job of fighting IS:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/iraq-crisis-how-saudi-arabia-helped-isis-take-over-the-north-of-the-country-9602312.html
Also, while I agree Judaism and all religions are hardly bastions of open mindedness - they aren't blowing people up all over the world or using nuclear weapons, despite having them. I wouldn't trust Iran with a popsicle. Israel has shown amazing restraint. If you were a people constantly threatened on all sides by Islamic aggression - had rockets routinely fired at your people - and had countries openly calling for your very destruction - how would you behave?
Well I wouldn't invade my Shia neighbors - as Israel did in 1978 and 1982 - and treat them so bad that they literally form a Shia militia to defend themselves. You'd think that the Israelis (who nominally invaded to oust the PLO) would be smart enough to work with a people who were glad to be out from under the boot of the PLO.
Considering that the Israeli policy in the event of a military defeat is to launch nuclear weapons - combined with their non-stop militancy against their neighbors - it can hardly be said that Israel is a rational actor in the middle east.
Israel and Jews are not the problem. Islam is.
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/05/16/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollardhttp://www.businessinsider.com/israeli-spying-on-us-has-reached-terrifying-levels-2014-5https://theintercept.com/2015/03/25/netanyahus-spying-denial-directly-contradicted-secret-nsa-documents/http://www.merip.org/mer/mer138/israeli-spies-ushttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg
Calling me a progressive is a bit silly, since I am constantly at the opposite end of the political spectrum from them. The BBC, for example, is clearly anti Israel. So is Obama and the current American administration. I am not sure why the Jews keep getting brought up when Islam is the religion killing and slaughtering - all over the world. Why are we even debating the Jews in this thread? They are not responsible for IS or suicide bombers or Muhammad or the Koran.
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Eritrean-migrants-resettled-from-Israel-to-Sweden-337414^Israel airlifts illegals from Eritrea (a Muslim north African country) to Sweden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ^Barbara Spectre wants to teach Europeans how to be multicultural.
Without Jewish people like Barbara Spectre, there wouldn't be as many Muslim invaders in Europe. Other than that, there are myriad examples of Jewish people being involved in subversive activities that target Europeans, for whatever reason. I only use sources that are Israeli publications or books that are written by Jewish people, to avoid conspiracy theories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair^A foiled Israeli false flag operation that was intended to kill Western tourists in Egypt and blame this on Muslims.
http://www.jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/articled325.html?articleid=38Extending the subversive thesis, Jewish involvement in the X-rated industry can be seen as a proverbial two fingers to the entire WASP establishment in America. Some porn stars viewed themselves as frontline fighters in the spiritual battle between Christian America and secular humanism. According to Ford, Jewish X-rated actors often brag about their ‘joy in being anarchic, sexual gadflies to the puritanical beast’. Jewish involvement in porn, by this argument, is the result of an atavistic hatred of Christian authority: they are trying to weaken the dominant culture in America by moral subversion. Astyr remembers having ‘to run or fight for it in grammar school because I was a Jew. It could very well be that part of my porn career is an “up yours” to these people’. Al Goldstein, the publisher of Screw, said (on lukeford.net), ‘The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism.’ Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream (and is no doubt consumed by those very same WASPs), its subversive character becomes more charged. Porn is no longer of the ‘what the Butler saw’ voyeuristic type; instead, it is driven to new extremes of portrayal that stretch the boundaries of the porn aesthetic. As new sexual positions are portrayed, the desire to shock (as well as entertain) seems clear.
https://archive.org/details/AProgramForJewsAndHumanity^Note that this was literally written by a Jewish Rabbi.
A Program for Jews and Humanity by Rabbi Harry Waton published by Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, New York City: Astoria Press, 1939.
This book declared that Jews will inherit the entire earth through the control and spread of Communism.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.htmlWe mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish
A Jewish publication notes that many member of the first Soviet government (who were responsible for the deaths of millions more than died in the Holocaust) where Jewish.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/06/books/review/the-chosen-getting-in.htmlA Jewish man admits that Jewish people have "taken over" academia.
Also, if it's the conspiracy theory that Jews enjoy spreading Islamic destruction, then I would just point out that no true Jewish person would want their own destruction - because Islam and Islamic doctrine is vehemently opposed to them. That's why they are under attack from all sides in the Middle East. The idea that Jews are behind the scenes plotting to help Muslims is far fetched, to say the least.
1. You're not Jewish (are you?) so you can't rightly say what a true Jewish person would or would not believe or do.
2. The issue isn't that Israel helps Islamic State. The issue is that Israel prefers them (according to one of their defense ministers) over Iran. The Israeli airstrikes on Assad's forces clearly demonstrate their stated preference. I don't know about you, but I call airstrikes assistance.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4755215,00.htmlhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/01/19/israeli-defense-minister-if-i-had-to-choose-between-iran-and-isis-id-choose-isis/http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-i-would-prefer-islamic-state-to-iran-in-syria/Israel is as much a problem as Muslims. They should both be deported to their homelands, so they can live in peace there (or not) and we can live in peace in our nations.
Simple fix: eliminate dual citizenship. Since all Jewish people are granted right of return by Israel, we could buy their assets and send them home. Israel definitely needs all the people it can get and would welcome the people it needs for defense, labor, and scientific research.
More than that, it seems that Jewish people are not comfortable in mono-ethnic and mono-religious societies. This is unfortunate, but if they have a problem with us then they are the ones who need to change. They have killed as many of us as we have of them, as demonstrated by the Holodomor and other Soviet atrocities, so the have no moral standing to cry about the Holocaust when we attempt to hold them to the same standards we hold ourselves. They need us more than we need them, as Barbara Spectre demonstrates when she "teaches us to be multicultural" by helping millions of Muslims to come to our lands and rape our sisters and daughters, abuse our benefits programs, and terrorize us with murder and violence (and the billions of dollars in assistance we give to Israel every year while our own infrastructure falls apart and our people sit idle).
tl;dr
If you are a Muslim or Jewish person, then
you have to go back.
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