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Title: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-18 17:20:15
As you know,after American release of FF7,Squaresoft re-released Final Fantasy 7 in Japan as Final Fanatsy 7 International.It included BONUS CD with encyclopedia about FF7 world.
There was a model viwer of different transport machine/devices such as Bike/Tiny Bronko/Buggi/Highwind/Submarine and other.

(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/snap1.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/snap2.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/snap4.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/snap6.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/snap7.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/snap8.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/snap9.jpg)

All these model has pretty high quality as compared to those we had in game(Bike race for example)
So i thought meybe somebody will be interested to RIP & use (if it possible :?) these models in PRP or some other mod

I tried to RIP them by myself(using ePSXe emulator and 3d ripper) but i don't have great RIP/3d modeler/texturing experience :cry:
I know that there are many people on these forum that want to make FF7 better that it was, so try this idea if you interested
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: yongkykun on 2008-06-18 17:35:54
hmm.. interesting.. interesting indeed...  :evil:
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: Prince Lex on 2008-06-18 17:36:03
Wow....

How did I not know about these models? Are the actual Models on FF7 International, or are there just some photos?
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-18 18:05:03
No,there are real HQ models that you can view at any degree that you want.
This disc is something like EXTRAS in Dirge of Cerberus.
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-18 18:05:42
WOW it's look yammi  8-)
Hm. Where can i read about this re-release? :wink:
I only find a picture:
(http://www.ffmusic.info/images/ff7international.gif)
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-18 18:56:00
Here is torrent file link:
*REMOVED*
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: Prince Lex on 2008-06-18 19:15:11
WOW it's look yammi  8-)
Hm. Where can i read about this re-release? :wink:
I only find a picture:
(http://www.ffmusic.info/images/ff7international.gif)

Its rare. It was only released in Japan and that was about 10 years ago now.
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-18 19:23:01
squallff8 Big thx.
PS Love P2P 8-)
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: obesebear on 2008-06-19 02:40:38
There's only 1 seed, but I'm going to try anyways.  Really nice find!
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: ice_cold513 on 2008-06-19 07:08:45
please remove the torrent link
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-19 07:16:42
U scary for RIAA? :-D :roll:
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: ice_cold513 on 2008-06-19 07:58:22
Nope

It a forum rule

No linking to/discussion of/advertising of illegal downloads,

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=1731.0
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-19 08:02:12
Oh...ok no prob :wink:
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-19 08:35:23
Ok.Then, if somebody need it try looking on Final Fantasy 7 International BONUS disc...it's not hard to find it :wink:
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-19 17:40:29
I down it but wtf? With what open this files: .NPK .LPK .STR
& where is viewer? :?
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-19 18:07:21
Eeee...I told it before,this is PSX cd...
Just run it on ePSXe emulator :-)
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: obesebear on 2008-06-20 01:38:28
Does epsxe render with DirectX?
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-20 06:25:13
I used Next3D video plugin that supports it
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: Alkor on 2008-06-20 08:11:53
squallff8  oh...my bad :-D
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: squallff8 on 2008-06-23 16:22:26
Hi there!Sorry for reviving this old thread!
Have a question/proposition/request here:
Today,using 3D DX ripper & ePSXe emulator,i was able to rip this:
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/1ead2885.jpg) (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/db0fa68a.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/2c88f3ed.jpg) (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/4e3a1e71.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/c136a9e7.jpg) (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/d2ac1b93.jpg)

IS ANYBODY INTERESTED in making a bike model and creating own textures using this samples for HiRes Bike minigame?
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-07 21:26:24
 :?
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-07 21:31:20
Wowzers, this is an old thread :-P

Still, those models look great. They might actually be perfect; they keep to the original visual style and they aren't so high-res that they would make everything else look bad.
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-08 00:48:38
those textures look terible! but they come out well enough on the models (square probably had a newbie do em... it doesnt match with the rest of their stuff)

anyhow, i'll probably get to these things at some point or another.
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 00:52:07
those textures look terible! but they come out well enough on the models (square probably had a newbie do em... it doesnt match with the rest of their stuff)

anyhow, i'll probably get to these things at some point or another.

Really? You're talking about the extracted textures, right?

And I've just noticed that the blue truck thing still has the "Midgal" spelling error :-P
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-08 00:56:14
yes the extracted textures look pretty laem.
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-08 04:40:34
yes the extracted textures look pretty laem.

 :-D Mr Timu's being sarcastic..... *snickers*  :-D
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-08 04:42:29
yes the extracted textures look pretty laem.

 :-D Mr Timu's being sarcastic..... *snickers*  :-D

I dont think so. those textures arent very impressive. it looks like they were going with a cartoony look
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-08 04:48:21
yes the extracted textures look pretty laem.

 :-D Mr Timu's being sarcastic..... *snickers*  :-D

I dont think so. those textures arent very impressive. it looks like they were going with a cartoony look

Yeah that's right..coz back then they where using old chibis and the lamer models ( kid looking "stick" cloud.. anemic but Big "BOOBED" Tifa..etc.)
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-08 04:50:09
no, my beef with the textures is that most of it was drawn with basic gradient tools, or a single brush, with very little depth
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-08 04:50:37
yes the extracted textures look pretty laem.

 :-D Mr Timu's being sarcastic..... *snickers*  :-D

I dont think so. those textures arent very impressive. it looks like they were going with a cartoony look

Yeah that's right..coz back then they where using old chibis and the lamer models ( kid looking "stick" cloud.. anemic but Big "BOOBED" Tifa..etc.)

Given the fact that these models were never in the actual game there was no reason they couldnt have made them look better
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-08 05:02:07
I see..So basically these were kinda like "fan service"....Similar to bonus Art Gallery when you finish up a game huh?
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-08 05:15:00
I see..So basically these were kinda like "fan service"....Similar to bonus Art Gallery when you finish up a game huh?

Pretty much
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-08 05:21:18
those textures look terible! but they come out well enough on the models (square probably had a newbie do em... it doesnt match with the rest of their stuff)

anyhow, i'll probably get to these things at some point or another.

Really? You're talking about the extracted textures, right?

And I've just noticed that the blue truck thing still has the "Midgal" spelling error :-P
Was about to say that myself! I was like "Midgal?"  :lol:
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-08 05:43:12
Could suggest a Fenrir Bike MOD for the Chase game..But I heard this was already done by...um....

Yeah..By Kula Wende....am I right? But using the Bike Model here as a base and inserting here and there..Voila!
New Bike MOD...ehehehe *drools*

Fenrir is awesome bike by the way :-P

Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-08 13:18:15
Quote
it looks like they were going with a cartoony look
I think it because something happend with color...
As they look in original you can see on those screens in first post.

As for me,i think those models perfectly keeps original game design.Even with this textures.
Fenrir looks good,but not in original story i think :wink:
I want to keep originality

Only thing that i think can be changed is the color of enemy bike,like Turks had:
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/snapshot20090908152949.jpg)


Just my opinion :|
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Covarr on 2009-09-08 15:51:16
I dunno...

On the one hand, the dumped textures look awful, rather as if they were made by somebody with no experience at texturing, and no quality control.
On the other hand, they look REALLY GOOD on the 3D models. It's baffling, really.
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-08 18:42:15
the bike minigame is something i wanna get done, (what dont i want to upgrade in ff7....) but there is a lot to do, so it may be some time before you see it. given i want to remake the cutscenes, i'd have to make the bike at some point as well, so we'll see when i get around to it
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-09 07:29:35
Yeah... even the condor game( forgot the name :lol: ) needs some serious OVERHAUL *hint* *hint*...

@squallff8

I noticed in the bike pics that the exhaust pipe is covered with like somewhat bandages but in the next pic:

Quote
it looks like they were going with a cartoony look
I think it because something happend with color...
As they look in original you can see on those screens in first post.

As for me,i think those models perfectly keeps original game design.Even with this textures.
Fenrir looks good,but not in original story i think :wink:
I want to keep originality

Only thing that i think can be changed is the color of enemy bike,like Turks had:
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/snapshot20090908152949.jpg)


Just my opinion :|

It doesn't appear to have one..are they the same ones?
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-09 10:59:06
2 Harruzame

It have it!Just look closer!
sorry can't make better screenshot :|
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-10 07:30:51
2 Harruzame

It have it!Just look closer!
sorry can't make better screenshot :|

Oh..the..there it is!!...* shocked* It was a bit too dark to see at first..but looking closer...Okay..

Question though:

Why put bandages on a BIKE's exhaust pipes? Some kind of a fad in Midgar?.. :| :wink:
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Saithies on 2009-09-10 13:31:13
I have a crotch rocket and I have "bandages" on my exhaust from the manufacturer... its a heat wrap so it doesn't melt plastic or worse give you 3rd degree burns... any exposed mufflers or pipes should be wrapped unless you like the smell of melting plastic/rubber/flesh  :wink: most bikes "strategically" place the muffler so it doesn't have to be wrapped for safety. My wraps retaining wire broke once, the wrap came off and the heat melted the entire heel of my boot... so usually it does serve a purpose and if some one was to sit on the back of that bike (looks dangerous might fall off lol) their feet would be on the pipes so even anime bike have safety features!
Title: Re: Bike & Other Transport MOD?(Is it possible?)
Post by: Saithies on 2009-09-10 16:05:44
Hi there!Sorry for reviving this old thread!
Have a question/proposition/request here:
Today,using 3D DX ripper & ePSXe emulator,i was able to rip this:
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/1ead2885.jpg) (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/db0fa68a.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/2c88f3ed.jpg) (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/4e3a1e71.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/c136a9e7.jpg) (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/d2ac1b93.jpg)

IS ANYBODY INTERESTED in making a bike model and creating own textures using this samples for HiRes Bike minigame?

Did you get the models or just the textures? If you got the textures it should be possible to get the others i think my epsxe is set up wrong i cant get textures or moddels from 2d ripper dx
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2009-09-10 16:08:32
You need a DirectX9 plugin for ePSXe in order for the ripper to work.
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Saithies on 2009-09-10 16:11:03
doh... using dx6... im tired lol
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-10 16:34:00
Did you get the models or just the textures? If you got the textures it should be possible to get the others i think my epsxe is set up wrong i cant get textures or moddels from 2d ripper dx

I've got all files that 3d ripper DX can capture:3dr frames,textures,shaders.
I used "Next 3d" video plugin

Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Saithies on 2009-09-11 02:38:25
The next 3d plugin wont work for me but I got the latest GSDX plugin working. I got the textures and the shaders but no frames. I have 3d ripper set to capture shaders and textures and to capture to wavefront.obj. Any idea what i might be doing wrong to not get frames?
Title: Re: HI RES Bike & Other Transport MOD?
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-11 05:34:48
I have a crotch rocket and I have "bandages" on my exhaust from the manufacturer... its a heat wrap so it doesn't melt plastic or worse give you 3rd degree burns... any exposed mufflers or pipes should be wrapped unless you like the smell of melting plastic/rubber/flesh  :wink: most bikes "strategically" place the muffler so it doesn't have to be wrapped for safety. My wraps retaining wire broke once, the wrap came off and the heat melted the entire heel of my boot... so usually it does serve a purpose and if some one was to sit on the back of that bike (looks dangerous might fall off lol) their feet would be on the pipes so even anime bike have safety features!

Well whaddaya know.... I never notice a bikes "bandages" before...I've seen a lot of pips in my hood have custom bikes and to tell you frankly  the only wraps i Saw where a bunch of stickers in their pipes.. But well since this is a different topic..I'm satisfied with it.

So if one customizes his bike into one of Cloud's/Shinra Co's bikes...That would be way cool!!!!!... I wonder if any one has done it already?....* drools*

Much better if anyone attempted to create a "Fenrir" type....