[FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.99994)

[PokeFaize]

A minor thing I may have found is that Lv.2-1 Limit Breaks (aside from Cait's) refuse to unlock no matter how many enemies I kill. I'm not entirely sure how many enemies Cloud and Barret have slain, but I would've thought I'd have Cloud's 2-1 Limit by now (just finished the Wutai side segment). Cait's Lv.1-3 Limit also refuses to unlock, even though I've used his 1-2 Limit at least 6 times by now. I'll keep working at unlocking them, since it's entirely possible I haven't hit the kill/limit uses mark yet. Is there an ingame way to see how many enemies each character has killed?

[Sega Chief]

http://prntscr.com/tteiu8
This is what I am using which one do I need to remove?

Replace the User Interface - Qhimm Catalog with the ESUI Enhanced Stock rel-2 IRO; the option for ESUI in the User Interface Qhimm Catalog is out of date and has no NT support.

A minor thing I may have found is that Lv.2-1 Limit Breaks (aside from Cait's) refuse to unlock no matter how many enemies I kill. I'm not entirely sure how many enemies Cloud and Barret have slain, but I would've thought I'd have Cloud's 2-1 Limit by now (just finished the Wutai side segment). Cait's Lv.1-3 Limit also refuses to unlock, even though I've used his 1-2 Limit at least 6 times by now. I'll keep working at unlocking them, since it's entirely possible I haven't hit the kill/limit uses mark yet. Is there an ingame way to see how many enemies each character has killed?

One way to check is with the black chocobo save editor which records character kills. Current kills needed for 2-1:
Cloud 180
Barret 120
Tifa 120
Aeris 100
Red XIII 100
Yuffie 100
Cait 6
Vincent 6
Cid 50

[PokeFaize]

One way to check is with the black chocobo save editor which records character kills. Current kills needed for 2-1:
Cloud 180
Barret 120
Tifa 120
Aeris 100
Red XIII 100
Yuffie 100
Cait 6
Vincent 6
Cid 50

Goodness, that's a lot of kills for 2-1 Limits (aside from Cait's, Vincent's, and Cid's) lol
I had checked the Respectable Inn in Junon for the Limit Unlock requirements, and it said 90 kills were needed for Cloud's 2-1 and 180 for 3-1. If those are wrong, you might want to update their dialogue to reflect that.

[Sega Chief]

Goodness, that's a lot of kills for 2-1 Limits (aside from Cait's, Vincent's, and Cid's) lol
I had checked the Respectable Inn in Junon for the Limit Unlock requirements, and it said 90 kills were needed for Cloud's 2-1 and 180 for 3-1. If those are wrong, you might want to update their dialogue to reflect that.

Will do.

[SwordofAeons]

Will add unequips there but you can transfer Materia between characters using the Exchange option in the Materia menu.

Oh, neat!

[Sega Chief]

That's 2.0.6 up; Type B is unlocked and the fixes/adjustments below were applied.

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V2.0.6 - 3/08/2020
*) Game Type B Enabled
*) Midgar Raid: Placement of Rude could cause a sotflock under certain conditions.
*) Costa Del Sol: Vincent was visible before his recruitment in the Villa basement.
*) Aeris: Added some animation files to the char.lgp for Installer version.
*) Shinra HQ: Some text box alignments & animation speed settings.
*) Sector 5 Slums: Shorten Wait on scripts for Sector 5 Slum vendors.
*) Wonder Square: If you buy Materia before weapon then weapon can't be bought.
*) Source System: Randomiser toggle would lose sources when checking stats in menu.
*) Fort Condor: Teleport NPC wasn't being enabled at start of Disc 2 under certain conditions.
*) Respectable Inn: Tetx updated with accurate kill count needed for 2-1, 3-1 Limit Breaks.
*) Ying/Yang: Softlock when attacking Ying with Magic.
*) Unknown2: ? Needle set to reduce target's HP to 1 instead of MHP - HP difference of Unknown2
*) Unknown3: Creepy Touch set to inflict Paralysis instead of Imprisoned/Ejected.
*) Materia Cave: Changed Gold Flare animation.
*) Sample HO512: Can now be hit with Gravity-based attacks
*) Sample HO512: Changed animation of cloying breath
*) Aeris: Healing staves have been given the ignore-defence property.
*) White M-Phone: Extra slot added, Triple Growth set.
*) Black M-Phone: Extra slots added.

Type B has some fairly heavy event editing in there that lives alongside the vanilla events, so I recommend that you save often and use a new save slot when you do (so you can revert to an earlier save if something goes awry).

[Kurne]

if dont mind asking i know you were trying ot do something with yuffies innate prior to release of b, is she ready to go by chance? ...

[Sega Chief]

if dont mind asking i know you were trying ot do something with yuffies innate prior to release of b, is she ready to go by chance? ...

Nah, I couldn't get it to update an enemy's gil after the initial *2 for some reason. I'll have to come up with something else.

[Sega Chief]

I forgot to set the bloody fight in one of the Type B things; it won't block progress, but it will be a bit strange to fight 2x MPs out of the blue. Will quickly update; sorry everyone.

[Spotty Len]

Awesome, time to play... tomorrow, since it's almost midnight here. :'>

Congrats again for the release, I'll look out for glitches as I play.

[DefMettle]

has anything changed in the Kernel or Battle.lgp from 2.05 to 2.06?
for 2.05 i have edited these files to my liking. can I drag and drop them to 2.06 or would you recommend i re-edit the 2.06 files?

[Sega Chief]

has anything changed in the Kernel or Battle.lgp from 2.05 to 2.06?
for 2.05 i have edited these files to my liking. can I drag and drop them to 2.06 or would you recommend i re-edit the 2.06 files?

You should be fine sticking with the 2.0.5 scene + kernel, the changelog has a list of alterations made. I'll filter the list here:

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Scene
*) Ying/Yang: Softlock when attacking Ying with Magic.
*) Unknown2: ? ? ? ? Needle set to reduce target's HP to 1 instead of MHP - HP difference of Unknown2
*) Unknown3: Creepy Touch set to inflict Paralysis instead of Imprisoned/Ejected.
*) Materia Cave: Changed Gold Flare animation.
*) Sample HO512: Can now be hit with Gravity-based attacks
*) Sample HO512: Changed animation of cloying breath

Kernel
*) Aeris: Healing staves have been given the ignore-defence property.
*) White M-Phone: Extra slot added, Triple Growth set.
*) Black M-Phone: Extra slots added.

[xenofears]

Got the vending machine, still trying to replicate the dressmaker pause though. Just to make sure; it's the old guy wearing the flat cap while he's in the store right? Is he behind the counter or by the dress rack at the time?

I don't remember who it was exactly; actually maybe it was the daughter not the dressmaker. They were standing in the middle of the dress shop when I spoke to them, after speaking to the dressmaker in the bar.

[Sega Chief]

I don't remember who it was exactly; actually maybe it was the daughter not the dressmaker. They were standing in the middle of the dress shop when I spoke to them, after speaking to the dressmaker in the bar.

Cheers for the info.

[gnollboll]

Not sure if I did something wrong, but went throught the Ancient Forest, and instead of taking me to the cave it took me back to the world map

[Saberfrost]

Parasite enemies are able to cast Magic Breath in the Crater.

I'll keep it in mind then because v1.5 document says they can cast it to but they don't. I just setup Aeris to Mega-All party with a healing rod to just afk and bait it and when I came back it wasn't learned at all. Manipulation didn't hold fruit for it either.

So for version 2 I'll just have to wait and see for myself if I miss it in Gaia again.

[DefMettle]

I forgot to set the bloody fight in one of the Type B things; it won't block progress, but it will be a bit strange to fight 2x MPs out of the blue. Will quickly update; sorry everyone.

have you fixed this now?

will you be able to release a separate mod for just changing the MENU,OK, CANCEL and SWITCH, to △, O, X, and ▢ please?
was looking for ps buttons just the other day. was awesome to see it implemented with this mod.

[Sega Chief]

Not sure if I did something wrong, but went throught the Ancient Forest, and instead of taking me to the cave it took me back to the world map

That's odd, fairly sure that was caught and a fix was implemented during the beta test run before 2.0's release. Are you on IRO or Installer?

I'll keep it in mind then because v1.5 document says they can cast it to but they don't. I just setup Aeris to Mega-All party with a healing rod to just afk and bait it and when I came back it wasn't learned at all. Manipulation didn't hold fruit for it either.

So for version 2 I'll just have to wait and see for myself if I miss it in Gaia again.

Oh you're on 1.5? You'll want Marlboro on the Right Path in the Crater; he counters with Magic Breath when hit by a Limit Break.

have you fixed this now?

will you be able to release a separate mod for just changing the MENU,OK, CANCEL and SWITCH, to △, O, X, and ▢ please?
was looking for ps buttons just the other day. was awesome to see it implemented with this mod.

Yeah I uploaded it pretty much ASAP; if you're using the IRO from catalog, then you may need to delete the NT 2.0 IRO first before re-downloading it due to the version number + release date being the same.

Buttons are a tricky business, because they're unfortunately defined statically within the flevel like regular text so a mod that replaces the text will, because of how text and event scripting live with each other in the file, have to forego any event scripting changes as well. Default game would need its own button text changes, NT needs its own, hardcore mod needs its own, etc.

I think mods that change the button prompts into actual button icons exist within 7h though. Unless this is needed for non 7H versions in which case I could see about making one for the default game.

[gnollboll]

That's odd, fairly sure that was caught and a fix was implemented during the beta test run before 2.0's release. Are you on IRO or Installer?

I'm on IRO, I tried to teleport myself afterwards to the cave but I get stuck in a wall or something 

[Asherdoom]

maybe  a bugg i dunno i ask here

Barret attack all mobs always.- his initial weapon do so but after that i found another gatlin gun that increments stats and have not reported attack all and such but barret still attack all mobs no matter what weapon i equip to him. is that intended ?

[Sega Chief]

I'm on IRO, I tried to teleport myself afterwards to the cave but I get stuck in a wall or something 

I'll check it out; and just in case, this is 2.0 and not 1.5?

maybe  a bugg i dunno i ask here

Barret attack all mobs always.- his initial weapon do so but after that i found another gatlin gun that increments stats and have not reported attack all and such but barret still attack all mobs no matter what weapon i equip to him. is that intended ?

All of Barret's machine guns have a toggleable 'All' effect that deals split damage when used to target all mobs. You can swap to single target like with All Materia by pressing L1/R1 (PageUp/PageDown). For things that are used commonly across something of the same type, I tend to leave off the desccription after that (for instance, Fire reports the 1% deduction to enemy defences but Fire2 and Fire3 don't though they have the same effect).

[gnollboll]

I'll check it out; and just in case, this is 2.0 and not 1.5?

2.0.6, I managed to get myself unstuck and picked up the *edit for spoilers* PG and the materia and ended up outside the cave near Forgotten Capitol

[DefMettle]

thanks for the info. il do a B play through and take notes.

[Luplow]

Hey Sega,

In type B, when you are at Shinra building, there is a softlock when you go to the prison to rescue "someone" after this event, the game consider you escaped from the prison, people are dead and Red is here before you even encounter him, telling his usual things, when you take the elevator, the softlock happens shortly after, when Cloud start talking to Hojo

Edit : BTW the type B is really fun, thanks a lot !

[Sega Chief]

Hey Sega,

In type B, when you are at Shinra building, there is a softlock when you go to the prison to rescue "someone" after this event, the game consider you escaped from the prison, people are dead and Red is here before you even encounter him, telling his usual things, when you take the elevator, the softlock happens shortly after, when Cloud start talking to Hojo

Edit : BTW the type B is really fun, thanks a lot !

I somehow missed this post earlier, I'll take a look at it.

Edit: My test file doesn't seem to encounter this issue; what happens during the scene? It should be:

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You enter the jail screen and before you can reach the guard, he reacts to you and a battle with 1x Mighty Grunt ensues.
After this, Cloud should automatically take the key from him and run downwards into the cell. After a conversation, the player is warped out of the jail field and back into the 'main' floor 67 field.

Is anything happening in there that's different?