Author Topic: FF7 with Windows XP and Radeon 9800 (Read 14634 times)

EvilMike · « **on:** 2004-08-26 14:56:39 »

It installs just fine but the 8-bit textures fail and when started up, no movies play.. hit escape and the menu pops up with working sound then hit new game and nothing happens again, no image. Anyone know how to get it working without switching drivers?

System:
P4 2.8ghz
1GB Corsair TwinX 400mhz Dual Channel
Radeon 9800Pro 128mb
Catalyst 4.6
Windows XP with SP2
SB Audigy LS

Nom_Anor · « **Reply #1 on:** 2004-08-26 16:43:06 »

Quote from: EvilMike

Windows XP with SP2
SB Audigy LS

Sp2 is probably killing your game. Did you install Direct Draw yet?

Aslo, run FF in Compatabilty mode, for win98/ME. Then see if it works.

edit: Moreover, did you install the FF XP Patch yet?

Jedimark · « **Reply #2 on:** 2004-08-26 17:04:19 »

Can you play the movies in Windows Media Player directly?

Aaron · « **Reply #3 on:** 2004-08-26 17:12:44 »

FF7 working fine in SP2.
Anyway, did you check out the FAQ thread (at the top of the Game Tweaking forum)? You should try installing the 1.02 patch and the upside-down movie patch.

EvilMike · « **Reply #4 on:** 2004-08-26 17:18:52 »

Tried the 1.02 patch, didn't work. Tried the anime-dude's patch, not working. Tried in compatability mode, didn't work. No direct draw. Cannot play movies in Windows Media Player.

Jedimark · « **Reply #5 on:** 2004-08-26 17:39:15 »

Quote from: EvilMike

Cannot play movies in Windows Media Player.

Aha! That's the problem then....

You need this:
http://ftp.eidos.com/pub/patches/final_fantasy7/ff7betap1.exe

- Mark

Edit: Ohhh----ohhh you installed the AnimeVamp Patch :p.... silly!

EvilMike · « **Reply #6 on:** 2004-08-26 17:42:40 »

Woo, it worked. Been wanting to play forever. Worked on my mom's Dell 1ghz crapola but I really didnt wanna play it on there. Off to slay some Ultimas

savage-xp · « **Reply #7 on:** 2004-08-26 19:13:57 »

Yeah FF7 works good in SP2.

xephiros · « **Reply #8 on:** 2004-08-26 19:28:56 »

Can you play it with FSAA on?

I have Radeon too and I get those stupid gridlines T_T

Jedimark · « **Reply #9 on:** 2004-08-26 20:05:59 »

Quote from: xephiros

Can you play it with FSAA on?

I have Radeon too and I get those stupid gridlines T_T

No don't think you can...

The best perfomance you are going to get out of your Radeon is by:
1. Applying the 1.02 Patch
2. Check the Riva box (or was in the TNT... can't remember).. experiment.
3. Make sure you have Catalysts > version 3.6

Marc · « **Reply #10 on:** 2004-08-26 20:27:52 »

has anyone tried temporal AA ? maybe it doesn't do grid lines ... I can't try because I play on win98.

EvilMike · « **Reply #11 on:** 2004-08-26 23:13:06 »

Have not tried AA or AF, but will prob toy with it later. Even with a R9800P it's still granulated during cutscenes and junk

EvilMike · « **Reply #12 on:** 2004-08-27 01:27:52 »

Yep, getting grids with 8x AA and 16x AF

xephiros · « **Reply #13 on:** 2004-08-27 13:14:26 »

Thats too bad

There seems to be no fix for it either..
Guess us Radeon users will have to play it Ugly style

EvilMike · « **Reply #14 on:** 2004-08-27 14:07:29 »

Actually I got some improvement in setting it to Nvidia TNT, still doesn't look amazing but what do you expect for the first 3D FF game :p

Cyberman · « **Reply #15 on:** 2004-08-27 14:36:35 »

Quote from: EvilMike

Actually I got some improvement in setting it to Nvidia TNT, still doesn't look amazing but what do you expect for the first 3D FF game :p

The was completed in 1997 which means it was started in 1994, which means it's REALLY ancient. Sad thing is it's just now the data is becoming more readily available on it.

Cyb

savage-xp · « **Reply #16 on:** 2004-08-27 19:56:10 »

anyone send me post a pic with radeon please

EvilMike · « **Reply #17 on:** 2004-08-27 21:00:11 »

In-game picture or the card?

xephiros · « **Reply #18 on:** 2004-08-27 21:52:00 »

Alright, Here are some Pics of my Radeon 9500 Pro card with FSAA On:

The 'Gridlines' when you walk around..
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=114569

In Battles its DOES look better and smoother..But messes up the Menu/Letters
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=114571

Cloud
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=114573

Cloud Again
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=114574

Tifa...
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=114578

Er..I made this one On accident

but they DO look more Round !!

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=114575

EDIT: For some reason the Pics didnt directly show up so I made them Links instead,

Cyberman · « **Reply #19 on:** 2004-08-27 22:50:35 »

They won't show directly because you have a script or program intermediating between and it's whining 'Warning this is from the games area' or some such lameness. Which means it requires a stupid cookie.

Anywho, the first image with cloud near the crator/reunion area is caused by the fact the background is in 16x16 blocks and the driver is stretching it to the wrong 'edge'. The reason the battle looks better is the background for all battles is.. 3D not the 2d for the FIELD scenes.

An aside, if we ever do find the walk mesh this means we do have a 3d scene layout from the walk mesh. Interesting thought isn't that?

Cyb

xephiros · « **Reply #20 on:** 2004-08-28 00:17:41 »

To tell the truth..

I Didn't Understand ANYTHING you just said! haha

But It's just me tough...

=P

savage-xp · « **Reply #21 on:** 2004-08-28 01:14:14 »

Well guys just a question? It is possible on Radeon cards to change the Textel Origin Adjustement? If so, may be that.

Jedimark · « **Reply #22 on:** 2004-08-28 09:37:39 »

When I get back from work tonight I'll post some screenshots of FFVII on my Radeon card and you will all envy me :p
xephiros: You should really get better graphics than that...

qwerty · « **Reply #23 on:** 2004-08-28 15:28:52 »

Quote from: Cyberman

Quote from: EvilMike
Actually I got some improvement in setting it to Nvidia TNT, still doesn't look amazing but what do you expect for the first 3D FF game :p

The was completed in 1997 which means it was started in 1994, which means it's REALLY ancient. Sad thing is it's just now the data is becoming more readily available on it.

Cyb

Wow... so we're worshipping a game that popped into the developer's heads 10 years ago?!?

And we're making a movie about a ten year old, overly mass produced game that's still being sold for PSX to this day?!?

Damn. Never thought anyone could milk a MOVIE this long, much less a video game.

And we're STILL patching the game!!

Nice work Square

savage-xp · « **Reply #24 on:** 2004-08-28 16:26:45 »

Nice work?

We are suffering because of the lamme conversion of game to pc plataform!