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« Reply #25 on: 2002-06-13 14:47:24 »
If you set up a wireless network correctly, you haven't got a problem. Brute force hacking still takes /ages/, especially if your system is set up correctly to, say, restrict connections to one attempt per second; at that rate, it'd take centuries or more to brute force hack it...

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« Reply #26 on: 2002-06-13 15:03:52 »
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If you set up a wireless network correctly, you haven't got a problem. Brute force hacking still takes /ages/, especially if your system is set up correctly to, say, restrict connections to one attempt per second; at that rate, it'd take centuries or more to brute force hack it...


Yeah, that's true.  It really does depend on how the network is setup.  However, some administrators don't seem to know about that.  Where I used to work, they had a mixed network.  One day, they got hacked, but fortunately for them they didn't have access to other computers (at least that's how it seemed).  They have an AS/400 (where all the accounts information is located) and it's protected by two routers and a firewall.  One of the managers was blaming us that one of us (trainers) may have given out the password.  The weird thing was that they only left traces that an attack (and intrusion) occured, but no trace of who did it and from where.  I don't have info of what logs they had.

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« Reply #27 on: 2002-06-13 15:29:53 »
Yeah. The real problem with wireless networks is that if you set them up wrong, it's really asking for trouble. Incompetant network admins aren't so much of a problem with private wired LAN's because it's not /as/ easy for a hacker to get access to the network - with wireless it's far easier to get in.

The real solution is to get a proper admin and make sure the network's set up correctly ;)

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« Reply #28 on: 2002-06-13 15:55:24 »
wireless? bah! im currently in the process of running cat5 through my entire house :) too bad i can't just use one cable.... at one point i will have 4 cables at the same place.

as for firewalls........ ZoneAlarm :)

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« Reply #29 on: 2002-06-13 21:10:24 »
Well, like I said, If I had a choice, I'd go with the wired approach, but with my dad, it's one of those "my way or the highway" sorta things.

Oh, and Aaron: If you do plan to integrate the other two, it would be wise to switch all the computers to using "infrastructure" mode first.  It'll probably be easier for the two new ones to get settled in.

And, lastly, my dad is running a mixed network.  He's got his PII 266mhz and my sister's P1 233mhz (yep, that's my old system!) on a physical wire, but both my 1.5Ghz and dad's new laptop are using wireless.

So far, everything's working without a hitch, the laptop is using WinXP, all the others are using Win98SE.

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« Reply #30 on: 2002-06-13 22:39:21 »
Here's a big question.

I'm good friends with the guy who lives next-door to me.  I believe a wireless network would reach his house (it's not far at all) and that way, he could buy some devices and netowrk HIS house, and then we could play games and share files and stuff.  Cool.

However, we'd want all the computers in my house to get access to the internet through MY connection, and the ones in his house to get access through HIS (we both have cable, but we are using different service providers).

Is this achieved easily by changing the gateway setting in the TCP/IP setting to match the computer's IP that you want to get internet access through?  Or is their more setup involved?  (Or is it possible? Heh)

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« Reply #31 on: 2002-06-14 06:44:29 »
Probably, is all I can say without knowing more about wireless networking ;) You've got the right idea - if the computers in each house can have their house's net server as a gateway, then that should work. *Should* being the key phrase ;)

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« Reply #32 on: 2002-06-14 14:19:24 »
keep the networks separate, configure XP ICS individually, then plug in the wireless network.

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« Reply #33 on: 2002-06-15 15:17:21 »
*Drools*

Geez, we don't even have that service in my area...

FF11 won't be shipping to Malaysia, right?

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« Reply #34 on: 2002-06-15 23:53:32 »
Ive been wanting to set up a network for my two computers for a couple months.  Ive bought Cat5 cables and a Linksys hub, but I have no clue on how to set up the actual network.  All Ive been able to do is connect both of my pcs with the cat5 and play networked Unreal Tournament and Command and Conquer.  If anyone can help me or if they need any more details about my situation just ask.  One pc is ME the other 98.  I dont happen to "have in my possession at this time" the 98 disc, so if that makes a difference.....
Anyway thanks in advance to all you guys, Im planning on buying Kingdom Hearts but Im not sure about ff11.
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« Reply #35 on: 2002-06-16 03:50:55 »
well..... technically speaking, you have a network :) just enable netbeui or something.

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« Reply #36 on: 2002-06-17 03:38:14 »
ok, i got about ten different definitions for it on google but no info on how to set it up!  if anyone knows of a site or can explain how to set it up please, im desperate

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« Reply #37 on: 2002-06-17 04:12:39 »
Well, if you can play games over your "network," then you obviously have a network set up.

1 - Right-click on "Network Neighboorhood" ("My Network Places" in ME) and select "Properties."  (If the icon is not present on your desktop, go to the Network control panel.)

2 - This will bring up a list of protocols and services installed on your computer.  You need to install...

 - Client for Microsoft Networks
 - AT LEAST ONE of the following protocols (I usually select all three):
* NetBEUI
* TCP/IP
* IPX
 - And the File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks service.

(Make sure to click the file/print sharing button and enable it)

Restart.

Any more questions?

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« Reply #38 on: 2002-06-17 04:19:14 »
Well, the network only works when i connect the pcs DIRECTLY through the ethernet cards, not with the hub in between.  i was running a tcp/ip connection i think (might have been ipx but im to lazy to check).

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« Reply #39 on: 2002-06-17 04:22:24 »
Well then.

If you have a working connection connecting two PCs directly with an Ethernet cable, the cable must be a crossover cable.

For it to work properly with the hub, I think you'll have to find yourself some normal cable.

Maybe this is the problem?

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« Reply #40 on: 2002-06-17 04:24:18 »
well that would be bad, do u have aim, maybe we could discuss this since u obviously are online

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« Reply #41 on: 2002-06-17 04:25:27 »
im on express, so i cant find out what ur sn is
sorry

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« Reply #42 on: 2002-06-17 04:53:32 »
Well there is this nifty "AIM" button at the bottom of each post.  And if you hold the mouse over it, you can look at the bottom of the screen to see my screenname.

In other words, it is [snipped].

[Edit] Spelling/Grammar fix

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« Reply #43 on: 2002-06-17 11:33:29 »
Yeah thats right. If you are using twisted pair cables to connect two computers directly, you need different cable as when connecting computer into hub. You should go to your local shop and ask for the cable.

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« Reply #44 on: 2002-06-17 15:33:31 »
i use a crossover cable. the first port on my hub has a "crossover" button :)  if you don't have one of those, you can just take of one of the ends and put it back on the other way.

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« Reply #45 on: 2002-06-17 21:52:31 »
Yeah, well, you'd need cable-clamping equipment.

Anyway, I ordered two WUSB11's so I'll see how my wireless network works out when they get here (a week ish).

Stay tuned!  :-p

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« Reply #46 on: 2002-06-17 22:30:01 »
i have an uplink port, is that the same as a crossover port, i think so

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« Reply #47 on: 2002-06-17 23:23:00 »
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Stay tuned!  :-p


LOL.  And he says that about upcoming info on his wireless networking experiment.

Nice pun! :p

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« Reply #48 on: 2002-06-17 23:28:21 »
Lol, I didn't even catch that myself until just now.

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« Reply #49 on: 2002-06-19 00:29:10 »
Anyway, about the PS2 and its broadband capability......

If you run a cable from the PS2 to a dsl router (like the one my dad has), would I get full dsl access for games like FF11?

That'd be great, if it was possible......LOL!