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Miscellaneous Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: nfitc1 on 2017-12-13 14:31:28
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X1t_B2f9Gw
Title sounds a little click-baity, but there's apparently been a lot of confusion about what happens to new-born materia with full inventories.
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Is this a deliberate mechanic? This seems more like a bug.
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Yeah. I agree, Covarr. If the inventory is full... nothing should be added.
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It's absolutely deliberate. Toward the bottom of the "new materia born" function contains the code to do this.
What ticks me off is there's no indication that this is happening and this mechanic went virtually unknown for fifteen years! I can find no mention of it on GFAQs, the French ff7 page (admittedly I can't read French), FFwiki, etc. I actually posted a vaguely worded message relating to this a while back (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14633.msg205640#msg205640) but didn't explain what I meant. The game should have you choose what to do with the new materia rather than just dump existing inventory. If you're grinding for a Master Magic this can really screw you over since Fire, Ice, etc. are so low on the priority list.
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My 2 cents but I was not surprised by your video. However, I cannot remember if / where I saw / read this before. To me, it seemed like common knowledge, but I guess I am wrong.
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If you can find it again please let me know. I'm claiming discovery of this until it's proved otherwise. :)
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It's possible that I tried it myself when I was curious about mastering Master materia (long time ago). What would happen then (if it would create a new Master or create all of the corresponding materia, ie new fire, ice... when mastering a Master Magic).
But if that was it, then I did not post anything about it but I assumed that it was common knowledge.
So by all means, it can be your discovery :)
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Looks like at least one person had already discovered it, as early as 2013: https://steamcommunity.com/app/39140/discussions/0/846959520905317771
However, you might be the first (or one of the first) to actually discover the mechanics details, i.e. the "materia born function", confirming that it's deliberate, etc.
And I'm sure many people would be interested to know how the game decides exactly which materia gets thrown away first. Myself included. :)
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I've just realized this happened to me in 1998 on PSX. It must have, because my underwater materia vanished into thin air and I had no clue how.
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Looks like at least one person had already discovered it, as early as 2013: https://steamcommunity.com/app/39140/discussions/0/846959520905317771
However, you might be the first (or one of the first) to actually discover the mechanics details, i.e. the "materia born function", confirming that it's deliberate, etc.
And I'm sure many people would be interested to know how the game decides exactly which materia gets thrown away first. Myself included. :)
Yes, THAT has been known for a while. I found a lot of reports just like that when trying to find documentation about this. The actual list, and that it is a deliberate game mechanic, is what no one else has discovered. It's easy to notice a single materia disappear when you're looking for it. The priority list would be very time-consuming to document.
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Someone posted about it on GameFAQs recently
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/197341-final-fantasy-vii/76075079
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The list of priorty seems to be the reverse of the list Yuffie uses when taking your materia from you.
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Which makes sense, since she will want the best ones.
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Someone posted about it on GameFAQs recently
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/197341-final-fantasy-vii/76075079
You do realize that was me, right?
The list of priorty seems to be the reverse of the list Yuffie uses when taking your materia from you.
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I haven't compared directly, but it's not the same list in memory because they'd be backwards of each other