Yeah, really happy for the American people that they've chosen to leave the policies of Obama behind and not follow Europe into the dust. Putting your own people's safety and prosperity first is what all good leaders do. America gets no thanks when it does things right and a lot of hate when it does things wrong.As the strongest country in the world, I'd say it's a clear signal for the rest of the world about where the future is heading. Trump's support is far higher than being reported, I would compare those tolerant protestors to um, dying gasps...
Trump is pulling the plug. It's so refreshing to see a population stand up against the blatant Leftist propaganda in the media too. Meanwhile, the tolerant left continue to burn and wreck and riot.
I wish I could have the same optimism you two have, I love everything Trump says, but he's got too many connections to the same people he criticizes. My guess is he'll be another Bush, basically another Democrat/Communist-Lite. That being said, we knew Hillary Clinton was evil, at least Trump is an unknown factor, I'd love if I was wrong about him and he actually meant what he says.I'd be surprised since everything suggests the opposite. It's a soft coup against the exisiting world order. Soft coup usually involves not killing/overthrowing existing people.
I did notice the other threads so I tried to be careful :P(http://i.imgur.com/NBCgk8el.jpg?2)
Pre-emptive (and hopefully unnecessary) warning: Keep it civil. This thread is off to a perfectly fine start, but as with all political threads, I'll be keeping an eye on this one and it's subject to immediate closing if I see it getting out of hand. ~Covarr
My 2 cents? It's going to be more of the same. It always is. And likely always will be until World War 3. You know who will benefit from Trump's policies? The upper class. You know who won't? The middle and lower class, as always. The rich will get richer. The poorer will get poorer, and freedoms will continue to erode right in step with the ocean's reefs.
Pretty much this, I'll just add World War 3 will be inflicted upon us as a final way for the globalists to cement their power to promise to end all wars by turning us into "global citizens" IE slaves, cogs in the machine. The west died long ago with World War 1, freedoms were eroded and we got the league of nations and a promise of no more wars, then world war 2 came and the globalists won yet and profited once again, bailing out their banker friends who were in serious trouble, creating that infamous illegal state and sanctuary for them, and giving us the horrible league of nations, followed in WW2 by the United Nations and the birth of modern liberalism. World War 3 will be the final toll of the bell for the West, because we failed to heed the past and listen to the wisdom of our ancestors, like Tolkien's Numenorians, literally men of the west, we will fade away under the malice and power of evil in this world. Also like Tolkien's Numenorians our fall is largely of our own making, instigated by treasonous outsiders to be sure, but the blame lies on the traitors within our midst the "Black Numenorians". I think Tolkien was ahead of his time and saw the writing on the wall, he fought in World War 1 and lived to see World War 2, he was probably familiar with Oswald Spengler's Death of the West and he was certainly familiar with Hesiod's Ages of Men, and Norse and Hindu cycle of ages.Hmm, well I'd agree that there's a possiblity someone will do something stupid to somehow "prove" Trump is not a good president. We all know how places like CNN work - cat is run over by car - add trump to the headline - cat is run over by car, trump - and now it becomes part of their groupthink circles that Trump killed a cat and anyone who says otherwise is a nazi. I think that's how that Pence hating gay people thing started. So far Trump says he is using twitter to defend himself against this, but I hope he has other solutions up his sleeve for that crap.
Cicero 2,000 years ago "“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
Nothing has changed, World War 3 will usher in the end of freedom and the beginning of open rule by the globalist cabal. My opinion? Let the world and more specifically the west burn, it deserves its fate for ignoring the wisdom of its ancestors and for failing to see that it was being played by its ancient enemies. Like how Sauron the deciever played the Numenorians through lies and propaganda, and through promises of wealth and power these enemies would not have won if not for the traitors in our midst and their greed for power.
Like a forest that must periodically burn to grow stronger and healthy so too does this world and its peoples. Let them lie in the bed that they are making.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXQLUVDOhyo Had me splitting my sides ;)Yep, infowars has been great this election cycle. I watched it all day on election night, good memories! I love 'em!
Nah, Piers Morgan is an egotistical opportunist. He just follows which way the wind blows and is gutless on topics that matter. You won't see him protesting Saudi women's rights, or the paedophile Muslim gangs of the UK, or Sharia. He just wants to be someone and make money. He's slime. Not as slimy as a lot on the left - but he's someone the Right need to chuck away. He does us no favours. Also, he is against the 2nd amendment.I think he got owned more by Alex Jones than Shapiro :D But yeah, I know what you're saying. I do find 2nd amendment people far easier to deal with than other types though.. He was also retweeting Paul Joseph Watson a moment ago.. quite surprising.
Got owned by Shapiro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHIQtxLCgrM
Piers actually rigged this up by bringing a kid in a wheelchair (from a shooting), ready to play the emotional card and make Shapiro look evil - but Shapiro saw right through it and blew him away.
http://truepundit.com/trumps-first-drone-attack-backs-cia-agents-said-obama-ignored-intel-refused-to-strike-critical-isis-targets-for-year/I never realized Trump would do everything in his first week. Holy shit :P I guess that's what happens when someone who isn't a puppet to others gets into power. He's in it to win, definitely..
Says it all - assuming this is a good source. If true, it's terrible.
And apparently his investigation into all of those "illegal" voters will only be happening in states he lost.
And yet, Trump is going to waste most of our tax dollars on a completely ineffectual wall between US and Mexico.
He also wants to increase torture, specifically waterboarding, because he's asking people who agree with him if it's effective even though more than half of "intel" gathered from torture is false.
I think we were left with a terrible decision on election day: a scheming politician or an ignorant egotist. Either way, we lost.
It's almost as if he was trying to silence political dissidence. You know, the sort of thing a ferning Fascist would do.
I don't support torture BUT I also find it hard to feel sorry for people like the gitmo lot. Personally, I wouldn't capture them. They aren't protected under the Geneva convention, because they don't obey its rules or wear a uniform. I'd shoot them dead on any battlefield.Here's the latest on the torture thing http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-mattis-override-views-torture-article-1.2957473
awwww yeah; gettin Fascist up in this buttercupFrom what I know about the crimes and injustices imposed on regular US citizens, I really have no sympathy.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/28/trump_has_suspended_due_process_for_muslims.html
Non Citizens have no rights in your country.That's plain wrong... The laws in every country in the world applies both to citizens and non-citizens.
awwww yeah; gettin Fascist up in this buttercup
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/28/trump_has_suspended_due_process_for_muslims.html
Edit: Meh not worth the effort to try to bring truth to those who relish in and live in lies. No person can awake such a sheep, only the world or God can.It's true. People in my own family just post whatever they can find to back up the idea he is a tyrant. There's plenty more evidence that he gives a toss about innocent Christians abroad - the people the Left have abandoned. For one.
Side note, Labour supporters are turning on Jeremy Corbyn for his supportive stance on Article 50 (AKA leaving Europe ASAP) where was that mindset during the referendum in the first place since he's always been anti-EU?
I'm not even convinced it's real. The cynic in me thinks it's a ruse to make people think he supports democracy and the will of the people. But I have no evidence of that. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him though.
Good god JFK airport is a clusterfuck. Trump's reich is off to a great start
Most of the people who were advocating it like Boris and Farage are the same, and behold as soon as the vote passed they buggered off, left everyone else to deal with the aftermath.No, I'm sick of that argument. It just means the right people wern't in power at the time the vote was passed - if someone like Trump was in power (i.e. Farage) - then the UK would be doing what the US is doing now (i.e. shutting down immigration and liberals going nuts). That's what Brexit means, pretty simple. There will be no compromise and liberals know exactly what it means for them.
Realistically, do you think a blanket ban is going to fix anything? I don't think so. A blanket ban is implying that everyone originating from the middle east is inherently evil.
There are a few hundred families there (that are now missing members) wishing he had been their president. That I can promise you.
We've done things the Left way for the last few decades and it isn't working.
And it's clear to see that people made the right decision when all you see from the Left is rioting, threats, insults, and violent "protests".
= The game is up for emotional lies from the Left and their media allies.
The peaceful people are NOT the problem, the problem is that a portion (and we can even argue that it's a large portion) of them ARE indeed terrorists who have and will eventually kill dozens of people.
I wonder how each and everyone of the people defending the mass refugee immigration would feel if one of their loves ones had died in one of the very recent terrorist attacks that have been taking place all over the world... Probably you wouldn't be as welcoming huh.
Were all Germans Nazis? And when the time came, who had the biggest relevance in history? The peaceful, non-nazi civilians or the much, much smaller group of Nazis?
you little dipstrawberriess really have the nerve to cry about the refugee crisis?Keep personal attacks out of this thread. I'm impressed we've made it this far before the first one, but this is the only warning I'm giving, and it applies to everyone. Next one from anyone at all and I'm locking the thread. Y'all can disagree with each other as much as you want, but please remain civil. ~Covarr
But Jari and those who share his views do not have any counter argument that relies on logic or facts; they just have insults and ridicule and emotion.I wasn't going to get directly involved in this thread, but you do realize you are saying this directly after Jari quoted some statistics re: refugee numbers, right? I'm pretty sure that counts as facts.
Isn't it great how so many people keep shouting that not all Muslims/Refugees/Middle Eastern people are terrorists... WE KNOW! The peaceful people are NOT the problem, the problem is that a portion (and we can even argue that it's a large portion) of them ARE indeed terrorists who have and will eventually kill dozens of people. People like to compare Trump to Hitler which is hilarious but since we're on that comparison, I'll leave you with a question.It's not even all about terrorism, it's about the less brighter ones not integrating properly due to 3rd world culture, carving out ghettos due to excessively high numbers, committing "casual" crimes that get covered up and always voting for dickheads so the rest of us get brought down. The last reason being why they are brought in in the first place.
Were all Germans Nazis? And when the time came, who had the biggest relevance in history? The peaceful, non-nazi civilians or the much, much smaller group of Nazis?
I wonder how each and everyone of the people defending the mass refugee immigration would feel if one of their loves ones had died in one of the very recent terrorist attacks that have been taking place all over the world... Probably you wouldn't be as welcoming huh.
Bearing in mind that nationals of the seven countries banned by Trump have killed exactly zero people in US based terror attacks between 1975 and 2015, compared to the 4323 deaths caused by terrorists from other countries in the same timeframeI just covered that argument in literally the post before yours as someone else regurgitated it (from Twitter I presume). I imagine more of those people will be banned after proper procedure is set up during the temporary ban..
Bearing in mind that nationals of the seven countries banned by Trump have killed exactly zero people in US based terror attacks between 1975 and 2015, compared to the 4323 deaths caused by terrorists from other countries in the same timeframe
lol You're going on as if we are all imagining the 49 people killed in a gay club by a Muslim,
or virtually all Muslim countries being undemocratic,
or all 10 countries that support death for gays being Muslim,
or the 100s dead in France, or the dead in Belgium, or the mass rapes in Sweden and Germany, or the terror attacks in Germany—and everything else that is going on... all perpetrated by Muslims.
It doesn't matter what you think (if you aren't just back to your old trolling ways, which would be so sad),
the electorate have spoken. America doesn't want what the left is selling, which is mass rape and death at the hands of a brutal and intolerant religious ideology called Islam. It isn't listening to you :P
It's not a good time to believe what you do, because your way is on the way out. All across the West, we're going back to the Right. There is nothing you can do about it. And insulting people won't work anymore. Got anything else?
Keep personal attacks out of this thread. I'm impressed we've made it this far before the first one, but this is the only warning I'm giving, and it applies to everyone. Next one from anyone at all and I'm locking the thread. Y'all can disagree with each other as much as you want, but please remain civil. ~Covarr
No-one is even arguing about the number of refugees. It's irrelevant. The number of terror attacks by those arrivals is important - and the religious ideology they share. I await his rebuttal to Shapiro (It won't happen). If even one mass murder occurs because we let in 100,000 asylum seekers, it is one too many.
Also, he does not cite a source.
Furthermore, it isn't just "asylum seekers" - it's the immigration policy too. The UK voted for Brexit largely because it is fed up of mass immigration (largely from Muslim countries). So, Jari just conveniently cuts out the millions that have been allowed into Europe by ignoring immigration.
And looking at his list again, he deliberately dodges Germany and other countries that have taken in a net of over 1.5 million Syrian refugees. Way to go on the selective use of stats to bolster a non existent argument.
PS. Not to mention that Germany accepts more than you could ever imagine
I am discussing Europe as a whole, not just the UK or Finland. So why he's even using a few countries as some sort of argument is beyond me. I think it's just to push his own narrative rather than look at the wider scope of things. Trump didn't formulate his travel ban based on the goings-on of Britain and Finland. He did so looking at the whole of the Middle East, Europe, and Israel.
Also, as stated on a video I posted, the list of terror linked countries was compiled by the Obama administration. Obama banned Iraqi refugees for 6 months. I didn't see anyone jumping around waving their hands in hysteria then. It's just a ludicrous attempt by the Left to sow discord and create havoc.
Is this enough, or do we want more?
It's not even all about terrorism, it's about the less brighter ones not integrating properly due to 3rd world culture, carving out ghettos due to excessively high numbers, committing "casual" crimes that get covered up and always voting for d*ckheads so the rest of us get brought down. The last reason being why they are brought in in the first place.
And we don't want them to either. More need banning. The whole system needs to be improved. It won't stop all terrorism, but at least it will be massively reduced in the long run and you won't end up looking like Europe - the laughing stock of the Milky Way.
Roden and DLPB I don't know why you guys bother with these people. Only 10% of people can be convinced by logic and facts. If the state and decay of the western world since the left came into power after WW2 hasn't woken them up by now nothing will, the sheep won't wake up until they are thrown in a gulag themselves. They are nothing more than useful idiots for the people in power destroying our nations and the world. Welcome to the Animal Farm. I believe some of them aren't just useful idiots though, some of them know exactly what they are doing, they've replaced good and wholesome ideas and things with ways to feel better about their own strawberriesty souls. In other words they're evil, and they lie to themselves to convince themselves that black is white, that evil is good.Yeah I'm not really bothered about them.
Brothers will fight
and kill each other,
sisters' children
will defile kinship.
It is harsh in the world,
whoredom rife
—an axe age, a sword age
—shields are riven—
a wind age, a wolf age—
before the world goes headlong.
No man will have
mercy on another.
12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.
13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
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19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.