Author Topic: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v2.0.99994) (Read 4899012 times)

Sega Chief · « **Reply #8950 on:** 2020-02-17 22:45:14 »

Quote from: nyny1010 on 2020-02-17 18:51:23

This might've been asked before but where is HP absorb located? (Playing Vanilla version but couldn't find it in the usual North Cave spot.

Should be in the cat house in Wutai (if the Yuffie Materia sidequest was done). There's some stairs in the back that you can climb by pushing the Confirm button (may need to mash it a bit). There'll be a chest up there with it inside.

Quote from: clarkymark on 2020-02-17 20:42:02

Thanks, sadly it just isn't working for me for some reason. I'm stumped. Just get the 'unknown exception occured' message

They are def unblocked (doesn't even have the little message to say unblock at the bottom like on other things oddly)

sad. I really wanted to play this. loved watching 4-8 play this couple years ago.

All right, do the following:

1) Uninstall then reinstall the Steam game.

2) Download this:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/c57at39b54geauy/Direct_Patch.zip/file

3) Unzip the folder and remove the .EXE files from it (the mod can run with default .exes). Then merge the folder contents with your data folder, confirming overwrite when prompted. Should be scene.bin, kernel.bin, flevel.lgp, battle.lgp, and char.lgp.

4) Try the game and see if it it's resolved.

clarkymark · « **Reply #8951 on:** 2020-02-18 06:01:43 »

Quote from: Sega Chief on 2020-02-17 22:45:14

Should be in the cat house in Wutai (if the Yuffie Materia sidequest was done). There's some stairs in the back that you can climb by pushing the Confirm button (may need to mash it a bit). There'll be a chest up there with it inside.

All right, do the following:

1) Uninstall then reinstall the Steam game.

2) Download this:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/c57at39b54geauy/Direct_Patch.zip/file

3) Unzip the folder and remove the .EXE files from it (the mod can run with default .exes). Then merge the folder contents with your data folder, confirming overwrite when prompted. Should be scene.bin, kernel.bin, flevel.lgp, battle.lgp, and char.lgp.

4) Try the game and see if it it's resolved.

nope. game works but mod isn't there. The flevel.lgp, battle lgp, char.lgp isn't in that folder. just scene.bin kernel.bin and kernal2.bin

Sega Chief · « **Reply #8952 on:** 2020-02-18 13:00:36 »

Oh wrong file; probably should have known from the size of it.

This is it: https://mega.nz/#!O1MnRIDJ!ozA-5UnQWdUyLlAT_JYxGoYi1IekKBBr8c_ZWn3VPzQ

clarkymark · « **Reply #8953 on:** 2020-02-18 15:17:15 »

It is ok now

, turns out all I needed to do was uninstall steam all together then re-install steam, then it worked.

Really odd but oh well. Works fine now

thank you

Megamilan · « **Reply #8954 on:** 2020-02-20 18:32:17 »

Hello!

Just started the mod. Really enjoying it.

A question: is it possible to play with the new gameplay but without the revised script and/or Cloud's new character model color?

Thanks!

Sega Chief · « **Reply #8955 on:** 2020-02-20 19:56:43 »

Quote from: Megamilan on 2020-02-20 18:32:17

Hello!

Just started the mod. Really enjoying it.

A question: is it possible to play with the new gameplay but without the revised script and/or Cloud's new character model color?

Thanks!

Text is baked into the field's event script, so unfortunately it would be a fairly large undertaking to put it back as it was. As for the character model, if you get Luksy's ULGP tool and unpack the char.lgp of NT and a default .lgp, then transfer all the aaaa files down to the first 3 anim files (this is all of cloud's model parts).

Megamilan · « **Reply #8956 on:** 2020-02-20 21:22:35 »

Got it. Will look into it. Thanks for the answer =)

EQ2Alyza · « **Reply #8957 on:** 2020-02-24 12:13:41 »

Were the Arrange Mode selection at the start of a New Game and Barret music options taken out?

Sega Chief · « **Reply #8958 on:** 2020-02-24 12:44:45 »

Quote from: EQ2Alyza on 2020-02-24 12:13:41

Were the Arrange Mode selection at the start of a New Game and Barret music options taken out?

No; where did you get the IRO from, was it this thread?

EQ2Alyza · « **Reply #8959 on:** 2020-02-24 15:29:19 »

Yes, of course.

Sega Chief · « **Reply #8960 on:** 2020-02-24 19:29:30 »

Quote from: EQ2Alyza on 2020-02-24 15:29:19

Yes, of course.

I checked the IRO file and it is definitely in there; the welcome script, etc. Is this a test of it on 2.0? I would check Gjoerulv's mod as well as that has the same file structure as NT (to check it, load a save that's either on Floor 64 and ready to open the chest on Floor 65, at the foot of the Sister Ray, or about to enter any of the Materia Caves for the first time. If a special battle triggers when proceeding with those events, it means its flevel is patched).

Chunks needed for NT are 1, 3, 5, and 7. 5 isn't as important but it prevents a lock from happening at the end of the dark cave sidequest.

EQ2Alyza · « **Reply #8961 on:** 2020-02-24 21:01:04 »

It should just be a direct unpack from your IRO. Nothing altered. I say “should be” so I’ll check over it again.

coredumperror · « **Reply #8962 on:** 2020-02-27 07:42:48 »

I think the Shinra HQ Library puzzle, with the Mayor, has a bug. I can tell from reading a walkthrough that you've messed with it for the mod, and now if the password is BEST, the hints from the improperly filed books in the library actually spell BEHT.

#1 Biological Characteristics of the Ancients
#3 Special Peacekeeping Law
#14 The Ancients in History
#5 Reactor Construction Chart

Is the #14 supposed to be #11, perhaps?

IcyElemental · « **Reply #8963 on:** 2020-02-27 09:57:25 »

I just started playing this mod and love it so far. One thing I want to mention though is that there's still some issues with the Jessie mod compatibility.

After the guard scorpion fight and on the way out of the reactor, I had a random encounter with another guard scorpion that did thousands of points of damage per round. This occurred right at the bottom of the ladder on the same screen Jessie is normally stuck on, just before I was able to start climbing.

It's not a big deal - I just started again without the Jessie mod - but I wanted to mention as the opening post specifically says they should be compatible now.

Sega Chief · « **Reply #8964 on:** 2020-02-27 14:49:17 »

Quote from: coredumperror on 2020-02-27 07:42:48

I think the Shinra HQ Library puzzle, with the Mayor, has a bug. I can tell from reading a walkthrough that you've messed with it for the mod, and now if the password is BEST, the hints from the improperly filed books in the library actually spell BEHT.

#1 Biological Characteristics of the Ancients
#3 Special Peacekeeping Law
#14 The Ancients in History
#5 Reactor Construction Chart

Is the #14 supposed to be #11, perhaps?

Yeah it's off, that's my bad for going into the text there and not double-counting the letters.

Quote from: IcyElemental on 2020-02-27 09:57:25

I just started playing this mod and love it so far. One thing I want to mention though is that there's still some issues with the Jessie mod compatibility.

After the guard scorpion fight and on the way out of the reactor, I had a random encounter with another guard scorpion that did thousands of points of damage per round. This occurred right at the bottom of the ladder on the same screen Jessie is normally stuck on, just before I was able to start climbing.

It's not a big deal - I just started again without the Jessie mod - but I wanted to mention as the opening post specifically says they should be compatible now.

This is due to a encounter chunk in the Jessie Mod overwriting the encounter table to use the default one (and because NT has some late-game encounters placed in wherever I could make space, this table loads them in).

I made a compatible version by removing this chunk from the Jessie Mod IRO; it didn't need this chunk to begin with so it still functions. It's available on the 1st page of this thread, but will link it here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/825mu1w33g83ruh/Jessie_IRO_Compatability_Patched.iro/file

You import that via the 7h library tab and disable/delete the old one.

Blagnarok · « **Reply #8965 on:** 2020-02-28 05:51:46 »

Hi Sega Chief, just wanted to let you know I think your mod is the best gameplay mod.

I solved a problem with a bug in the game where the dialog with Sephiroth in the basement Shinra Mansion during the flashback scene, as well as some dialog in the Temple of Ancients, was not showing up using your mod, Tifa's 7H, and Menu Overhaul.

I figured the problem was with Menu Overhaul, so I tried the new "Enhanced Stock UI" mod which basically is an IRO that does the menu overhaul without all the other Reunion stuff, and can run off the FF7.exe rather than FF7_mo.exe or FF7_bc.exe. Unfortunately, this mod also had the same bug with the dialog boxes disappearing after I activated it, so I messed with the settings in the "Enhanced Stock UI" mod and figured out the solution!

Turns out changing one of the settings in the Enhanced Stock UI fixes the issue entirely. If you set the option for Field Dialog Text Style to "stock" rather than the default "Menu Overhaul with Digit Fixes" the text will show up in those scenes!

Seems the bug was a result of the field text alignment fixes in Menu Overhaul, which can be toggled off in the "Enhanced Stock UI." There is a little more space between lines of dialog when this setting is on "stock," but the text is still crisp and pretty just like it is in Menu Overhaul mod, and there is no more missing dialog.

Regards,
Nate

Sega Chief · « **Reply #8966 on:** 2020-02-28 10:20:15 »

Quote from: Blagnarok on 2020-02-28 05:51:46

Hi Sega Chief, just wanted to let you know I think your mod is the best gameplay mod.

I solved a problem with a bug in the game where the dialog with Sephiroth in the basement Shinra Mansion during the flashback scene, as well as some dialog in the Temple of Ancients, was not showing up using your mod, Tifa's 7H, and Menu Overhaul.

I figured the problem was with Menu Overhaul, so I tried the new "Enhanced Stock UI" mod which basically is an IRO that does the menu overhaul without all the other Reunion stuff, and can run off the FF7.exe rather than FF7_mo.exe or FF7_bc.exe. Unfortunately, this mod also had the same bug with the dialog boxes disappearing after I activated it, so I messed with the settings in the "Enhanced Stock UI" mod and figured out the solution!

Turns out changing one of the settings in the Enhanced Stock UI fixes the issue entirely. If you set the option for Field Dialog Text Style to "stock" rather than the default "Menu Overhaul with Digit Fixes" the text will show up in those scenes!

Seems the bug was a result of the field text alignment fixes in Menu Overhaul, which can be toggled off in the "Enhanced Stock UI." There is a little more space between lines of dialog when this setting is on "stock," but the text is still crisp and pretty just like it is in Menu Overhaul mod, and there is no more missing dialog.

Regards,
Nate

I'll try setting the dialogue back to vanilla for those fields, or using the vanilla text-box sizing; I'm building the final version atm it'll be in that version.

kmrblue1027 · « **Reply #8967 on:** 2020-02-29 01:32:35 »

Minor typo or effect is wrong. Aerith's Wizard Staff from the Ancient Forest restores MP on hit not HP as the effect states. I assume it's a typo as HP restore is pretty outclassed by that late in the game but mana sustain is pretty freaking good.

Aerodynamics · « **Reply #8968 on:** 2020-02-29 04:22:05 »

Hey there Sega Chief, i'm just curious: how the progress is going on the 2.0 version? It'll be the ultimate way to play ff7. Can't wait for it's release.

Cheers

Sega Chief · « **Reply #8969 on:** 2020-02-29 11:54:36 »

Going for 20-25th March.

nostalgic · « **Reply #8970 on:** 2020-03-02 02:02:31 »

@Sega Chief

I'm watching a streamer play New Threat Mod and it looks awesome! I'm definitely going to play it, but I had a quick question if you don't mind.
I'm planning on playing the New Threat + Reunion version, and I was wondering if you think Necrosis would work in combination with these mods? I have played Reunion + Necrosis before (albeit with a slight bit of tinkering to get it to work), so I was hoping I could try it here too.

coredumperror · « **Reply #8971 on:** 2020-03-02 03:39:50 »

I'm not sure if this has already been reported, but the Mr. Smile dialog has a small display bug. His line "And that concludes the deal." gets placed in a box that's slightly too short, which puts a linebreak after the "e" in "deal".

Sega Chief · « **Reply #8972 on:** 2020-03-02 08:53:52 »

Quote from: nostalgic on 2020-03-02 02:02:31

@Sega Chief

I'm watching a streamer play New Threat Mod and it looks awesome! I'm definitely going to play it, but I had a quick question if you don't mind.
I'm planning on playing the New Threat + Reunion version, and I was wondering if you think Necrosis would work in combination with these mods? I have played Reunion + Necrosis before (albeit with a slight bit of tinkering to get it to work), so I was hoping I could try it here too.

If it's the translation part of reunion (beacause) then it won't work together; NT has a lot of custom event scripting that lives in the same place as dialogue in the field files. 7h does split field files into separate parts but dialogue + event scripting unfortunately exist in the same section. Beacause also replaces text in the scene + kernel which is where NT's enemy/character changes are so that's another point of conflict. Necrosis is same issue; changes are more minor but would still clash; NT with Necrosis would likely be unwinnable anyway.

Quote from: coredumperror on 2020-03-02 03:39:50

I'm not sure if this has already been reported, but the Mr. Smile dialog has a small display bug. His line "And that concludes the deal." gets placed in a box that's slightly too short, which puts a linebreak after the "e" in "deal".

Think it slipped my mind, been a while since I heard about it though.

coredumperror · « **Reply #8973 on:** 2020-03-03 04:50:43 »

Quote from: coredumperror on 2020-03-02 08:53:52

The Mr. Smile dialog has a small display bug. His line "And that concludes the deal." gets placed in a box that's slightly too short, which puts a linebreak after the "e" in "deal".

Quote from: Sega Chief on 2020-03-02 08:53:52

Think it slipped my mind, been a while since I heard about it though.

It might only affect some early game save points. I started from the beginning, and I saw it on the original "save point" that starts the SP system, and also in Fort Condor. But on the ship from Junon, it's fixed. Maybe it stays fixed throughout the rest of the game? That could explain the lack of reports.

coredumperror · « **Reply #8974 on:** 2020-03-03 06:36:36 »

Super super minor bug report: The bikini girl on the Costa del Sol beach, who passes on Hojo's message to you after you sleep at the inn the first time, has a grammar error in her dialog:

"What you're looking for has went west." should be "What you're looking for as gone west."