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Title: MRAWR
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-10-21 13:27:55
I save up, get a nice shiny imac 24", sooped up to the max, and look what they go and do!

http://www.apple.com/imac/

bastards...


p.s. technology is evil ><
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Jari on 2009-10-21 13:31:04
...and look what they go and do!

At least they didn't make it any better, since it's still a Mac. :-D

I keed, I keed.


EDIT: Oh, for heaven's sake, first they had only one button on the mouse, now they have no buttons? What asshattery is this? :lol:
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-10-21 13:33:23
 :-D :-D :-D

Maybe you should get a Macbook Wheel. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA)
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Jari on 2009-10-21 13:50:42
Considering this tickle-me-mouse business with touch sensing, wanna bet that the next Apple product is iFap-keyboard?

It has built-in iCum-technology; when you blow your load on it, the Mac will automatically shut down the video it was playing. :-D
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-10-21 14:57:55
I was messing with a Mac at Best Buy and I'm all like "How the hell do you use this thing?" Mouse buttons on it were weird too!! And then I was saying "Where the hell is Ice T when you need him?!" LMAO  :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qWhYlhfWCI
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-10-21 15:59:55
Considering this tickle-me-mouse business with touch sensing, wanna bet that the next Apple product is iFap-keyboard?

It has built-in iCum-technology; when you blow your load on it, the Mac will automatically shut down the video it was playing. :-D

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7415/reactionpondering.jpg)

I was messing with a Mac at Best Buy and I'm all like "How the hell do you use this thing?" Mouse buttons on it were weird too!! And then I was saying "Where the hell is Ice T when you need him?!" LMAO  :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qWhYlhfWCI

If you want to make Ice T appear, all you have to do is right click and...

Oh, wait, it's a Mac :lol:
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-10-21 16:58:02
contrary to popular beleif, macs usually have 2+ buttons... they havent had a one button mouse for about 3 years. (you can still use only one button, but can just as easily have any number... the might mouse actually has 4 buttons, despit its appearance)
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-10-21 17:12:25
contrary to popular beleif, macs usually have 2+ buttons... they havent had a one button mouse for about 3 years. (you can still use only one button, but can just as easily have any number... the might mouse actually has 4 buttons, despit its appearance)

It isn't popular belief; it's popular trolling :-P
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: titeguy3 on 2009-10-21 17:59:46
shiny imac

lol. Gotta admire apple for substituting shininess for versatility so effectively.
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-10-21 19:45:03
 :-D
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2009-10-21 19:52:55
Step 1: Put together a regular PC
Step 2: Install MacOS
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit

And then you can dual boot into Windows so you can actually play games properly.

This way it's a win win scenario and a bit cheaper.
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Jari on 2009-10-21 20:02:07
Considering this tickle-me-mouse business with touch sensing, wanna bet that the next Apple product is iFap-keyboard?

It has built-in iCum-technology; when you blow your load on it, the Mac will automatically shut down the video it was playing. :-D

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7415/reactionpondering.jpg)

Admit it, you'd get one. :-D


contrary to popular beleif, macs usually have 2+ buttons... they havent had a one button mouse for about 3 years. (you can still use only one button, but can just as easily have any number... the might mouse actually has 4 buttons, despit its appearance)

It isn't popular belief; it's popular trolling :-P

Yeah, we don't hate Macs. We just hate people who use Macs. Wait, that's not it, either. :-P Yeah, it's just a bit of friendly jabbing. :-)


Step 1: Put together a regular PC
Step 2: Install MacOS
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit

And then you can dual boot into Windows so you can actually play games properly.

This way it's a win win scenario and a bit cheaper.

Or, you could just install a Linux-distro and get the safety and (somewhat imaginary) stability benefits from that.

I have to admit that I have considered installing Mac OS, just so I could piss off hardcore MacFags who - for example - took it really hard when they saw that PC built into a G5 case. :-D Very amusing, that was.
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-10-21 20:12:01
Step 1: Put together a regular PC
Step 2: Install MacOS
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit

And then you can dual boot into Windows so you can actually play games properly.

This way it's a win win scenario and a bit cheaper.

Aren't your hardware choices pretty limited when building a Hackintosh? :?

I'm almost certain that you have to use Intel processors, amongst other things...

Anyway, a win-win situation is Windows and Linux, using Common Sense 2009 edition as your AV software :-D

Considering this tickle-me-mouse business with touch sensing, wanna bet that the next Apple product is iFap-keyboard?

It has built-in iCum-technology; when you blow your load on it, the Mac will automatically shut down the video it was playing. :-D

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7415/reactionpondering.jpg)

Admit it, you'd get one. :-D

Nah, since it would be designed for Macs it would only be compatible with gay porn. (http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1125/400pxtrollfacehdd.jpg)

contrary to popular beleif, macs usually have 2+ buttons... they havent had a one button mouse for about 3 years. (you can still use only one button, but can just as easily have any number... the might mouse actually has 4 buttons, despit its appearance)

It isn't popular belief; it's popular trolling :-P

Yeah, we don't hate Macs. We just hate people who use Macs. Wait, that's not it, either. :-P Yeah, it's just a bit of friendly jabbing. :-)

This.

But we also dislike certain Apple business practices, such as the questionable amounts of honesty in their advertising, as well as this crap:

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9854/lolmacprices.jpg)

Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: titeguy3 on 2009-10-22 06:01:33
wow really? 800 bucks for 4 gigs of ram??
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-10-22 06:29:39
wow really? 800 bucks for 4 gigs of ram??

Of course, its apple ram  :roll:
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Jari on 2009-10-22 10:29:45
1320 bucks, you mean. :-D Because I spy with my little eye a pound-sign in that screenshot.

But hey, it's genuine Apple-RAM. Re-badged made by virgins born during the full moon, and raised in a Apple-monastery since their birth to keep them pure. They only bathe in honey, too.
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-10-22 13:21:23
Yep, and an extra $400 to increase the clock speed of the dual-core processor by 0.26GHz. :-D

Incidentally, the cost of that 4GB RAM upgrade is what I paid for my entire laptop, which has 4GB of RAM. Admittedly, DDR3 RAM is still a little more expensive than DDR2 right now, and a single 4GB stick costs more than 2x2GB sticks (I'm sure someone will know why), but I think it still shows how overpriced some of their products are.

The pic, if anyone wants to know, is from a thread where someone was talking about a friend who paid £4500/$7000 for a MacBook Pro. Just imagine what kind of PC you could build for that price...
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Jari on 2009-10-22 13:45:01
Incidentally, the cost of that 4GB RAM upgrade is what I paid for my entire laptop, which has 4GB of RAM. Admittedly, DDR3 RAM is still a little more expensive than DDR2 right now, and a single 4GB stick costs more than 2x2GB sticks (I'm sure someone will know why), but I think it still shows how overpriced some of their products are.

And SO-DIMM format (the laptop memory, that is) makes it even more expensive. Still, one could get the entire 2 x 4GB 1066 DDR3 SO-DIMM set here for about 500 euros - if Fujitsu-Siemens is good enough name for one. It's probably re-branded memory as well, I doubt they have a plant capable of producing DDR3-memory. Apple most certainly does not have, AFAIK the Apple-memory is made by Kingston. Might very well be the very same memory, even.

The reason why single 4GB stick costs more than 2x2GB sticks is yields, especially if the larger stick uses the same amount of chips, meaning that a chip must be twice the capacity. Increasing the amount of semiconductors on a die pretty much results in lower yields, as the chances of finding a faulty one from twice as many is... well, probably twice as large. :-P Leading to twice as many non-working chips.

Same is true for processors - especially in the case of models with very large cache, as that often holds the most of the semiconductors in a CPU - and GPUs, which have insane amount of semiconductors. Larger models are probably not that much more expensive to manufacture per unit, but you'll end up throwing away much more of them. This is also the reason why both ATi and nVidia sell graphics cards with more or less GPU pipelines deactivated; these are the chips that were faulty and couldn't be used in the flagship product.

...and the reason why Cell has 8 of the... whatevertheywerethingies, but only 7 are active. One is a spare, so single faulty... thingy does not mean loss of entire Cell.
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-10-22 14:44:33
If one goes for a more recognised brand (in the world of RAM), the prices are a little higher.

(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8682/scandotcodotukprices.png)

However, that's still quite a difference from the extra £800 that Apple want to charge. :roll:

Upgrading from 4GB of "Apple" memory to 8GB is almost twice as expensive as going from 2x2GB of Corsair memory to 2x4GB

The reason why single 4GB stick costs more than 2x2GB sticks is yields, especially if the larger stick uses the same amount of chips, meaning that a chip must be twice the capacity. Increasing the amount of semiconductors on a die pretty much results in lower yields, as the chances of finding a faulty one from twice as many is... well, probably twice as large. :-P Leading to twice as many non-working chips.

Ah, yes, I can understand that. The manufacturers have to compensate for those 1.7% yields. :-D
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: titeguy3 on 2009-10-22 16:46:56
made by virgins born during the full moon, and raised in a Apple-monastery since their birth to keep them pure. They only bathe in honey, too.

I would pay 200 tops for that.
Perhaps an extra 500 if the virgins were included.

The pic, if anyone wants to know, is from a thread where someone was talking about a friend who paid £4500/$7000 for a MacBook Pro. Just imagine what kind of PC you could build for that price...

I once envisioned and mapped out the price for the most optimal supercomputer physically possible to build with commercialized materials at the time, with all heat generating parts watercooled with pentuple radiators (that's 5).

The cost was $5000. Apple fail.
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: KnifeTheSky77 on 2009-10-22 21:01:48
Step 1: Put together a regular PC
Step 2: Install MacOS
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit

And then you can dual boot into Windows so you can actually play games properly.

This way it's a win win scenario and a bit cheaper.

Aren't your hardware choices pretty limited when building a Hackintosh? :?

I'm almost certain that you have to use Intel processors, amongst other things...


Over the last year or so, the 'hackintosh' www.osx86.com (http://www.osx86.com) has actually had a dramatic increase in hardware compatibility. You can run OS 10.6 on most newer, popular hardware including newer AMD and intel processors. It doesnt support all  laptop hardware and poopy integrated whatnots, however. But ultimately, the best iMac is a PC with mac OS. I have an installation of 10.6 that I have for teh lulz running on a core i7 and a nvidia gtx260 (I wonder how much my setup would cost if it came from apple). I cant stand to use it though because it makes me feel like I am five years old, openSUSE FTW!
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-10-22 22:34:46
AMD processors, you say? :-P

Hmm, so it seems that a Hackintosh might actually be quite easy to do for most people. I wonder how Apple would be effected if most people knew that they could use the OS without having to buy a Mac? I'm presuming that Apple make far more profit from their hardware (which can't be torrented :-D) than their software. Methinks that only the really hardcore Macfags would still buy Macs if Hackintoshing were to take off; it would be very bad news for Steve Jobs...
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: titeguy3 on 2009-10-22 22:39:42
Pfft, people don't buy macs because of their "easy to use" Operating System...

...they buy them because they're shiny and "cutting edge".
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: KnifeTheSky77 on 2009-10-23 01:52:44
I didn't want to say this but due to apple's full disclosure in this thread:

Those apple commercials macfagging the windows 7 launch... what the hell?
If I were to write a ratio representing apple-anti-windows7 launch commercials to windows 7 launch commercials
that I have seen today, it would be 4:1 and I have had the tv on for only 1 hour thus far. What is this world coming to?

I don't usually support micro$oft but the RTM of win7 is just to nice to bash
so consider this a f*ck you Steve Jobs, you wouldn't even have apple if it werent for Wozniak anyways

this is an ibm thinkpad x300 running OS X 1/2 Tiger next to my jailbroken iPod

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr283/knifethesky/100_1699.jpg)

And yes, that is windows 7 running in the background.
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: lyada on 2009-10-23 07:00:08
Woz is my hero
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-10-23 11:42:15
Thinkpad, eh?

I've heard that you can beat the owners of inferior computers to death with those things and they'll still work, but I've never had the pleasure of owning one. :-D

And I'm surprised that you're surprised by the amount of anti-Windows advertising campaigns by Apple; isn't bashing Windows basically all they do? (besides using the word virus in a context that will make the people they're marketing to think that Macs are impenetrable fortresses immune to all nasties). Have they kept to their standard philosophy of not quite being dishonest enough to get themselves sued? :-P
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: nfitc1 on 2009-10-23 19:17:39
wow really? 800 bucks for 4 gigs of ram??

It's not about the actual RAM so much as it is keeping your warantee (sp?). They don't like third-party RAM in their systems, even if they are identical sans the label.
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: titeguy3 on 2009-10-24 15:22:27
warranty*

For that much, you can get a better, third party warranty AND the extra RAM.
Title: Re: MRAWR
Post by: Jari on 2009-10-24 19:25:28
this is an ibm thinkpad x300 running OS X 1/2 Tiger next to my jailbroken iPod

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr283/knifethesky/100_1699.jpg)

Oooh, Pinkthad! :-D


Thinkpad, eh?

I've heard that you can beat the owners of inferior computers to death with those things and they'll still work, but I've never had the pleasure of owning one. :-D

Pretty much. I accidentally shat sat on my T40, and it's none the worse for wear. That's the nice titanium composite shell - it can take a pretty severe beating and still work. Not only that (the 'unibody' made out of aluminum that Macbook Pro uses is pretty durable as well), but the Big Blue akshually has service manuals on their website for you to download, and even the Pinkthads themselves have stickers on the bottom, indicating which size the screws are, and which size screw goes where. And they offer replacement parts for pretty human prices, should you want to repair a Pinkthad.

So, unlike fApples, you can fix it yourself, if you want.

Funny anecdote; about a month ago my 5 year old Pinkthad became an emergency replacement for Macbook Pro, because owner of the latter failed to carry a DVI-to-VGA adapter with him, and the projector's remote control and signal unit surprisingly enough didn't have any DVI-inputs on it. Apple fail. :-P


It's not about the actual RAM so much as it is keeping your warantee (sp?). They don't like third-party RAM in their systems, even if they are identical sans the label.

It's not about the actual RAM so much as it is keeping your profits. They don't like third-party RAM in their systems, even if they identical sans the label, because that would take a serious bite out of their profits. There, fixed it for you. :-D

In other news; it seems that Nokia sued Apple for all of their patents Apple used in iPhone when Apple refused to pay up. There has been a long history of cross-licensing in cell phone industry (you use ours, and we use yours), and the rest of companies have paid a pretty nominal fee for the patent holders. This, of course, wouldn't suit Apple. Since they, you know, steal innovate. :-D

Some people have questioned the timing, but there are rumors - which would be consistent with prior similar events - that Nokia and Apple have in fact been in negotiations since the launch of iPhone, and Nokia is seeking the legal route only after finding out fApple to be a total asshat.

I've seen MacFags pull a pretty astounding defenses, like the one stating that the network parts of iPhone are subcontracted, thus the subcontractors should pay the licensing fees. Apparently this also excludes the manufacturer from responsibility, should the subcontractor fail to do so - or so sayeth the MacFags. Should that stand in court, it would be largest and most obvious loophole in patent law, ever.

Other claims include the possibility for Apple's countersuit on GUI and touch screens. Let them try. MacFags might be surprised when Nokia claims prior art (meaning that they did it before Apple patented it, thus making Apple's claims invalid) on touchscreen.  :-P For that matter, Nokia wasn't even the first one.

In any case, it'll be interesting to see the big boys battle it out.