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Title: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-03 16:25:40
 doomtrain , ifrit , quetzacolt none of those three tools are compatible with the steam version of final fantasy 8 , i check that out now :\ , i hope someone will make them compatible with the steam version
Title: Re: please help
Post by: Girl next door on 2018-06-03 19:24:43
Of course they are compatible with the Steam version but first you have to extract files with Deling. In the battle.fs for Ifrit for example.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-03 20:22:12
Of course they are compatible with the Steam version but first you have to extract files with Deling. In the battle.fs for Ifrit for example.

thanks , and for the other two programs what i have to extract and from what file ? :D
Title: Re: please help
Post by: Girl next door on 2018-06-03 20:42:36
For Doomtrain and Quetzacoatl, you'll find the kernel.bin and the init.out in the main.fs

And for Ifrit, I remember that you don't really need Deling. Click on Tools and Extract files from battle.fs
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-03 20:50:06
For Doomtrain and Quetzacoatl, you'll find the kernel.bin and the init.out in the main.fs

And for Ifrit, I remember that you don't really need Deling. Click on Tools and Extract files from battle.fs

ok i will try and let you know :D
Title: Re: please help
Post by: Covarr on 2018-06-04 00:31:24
Over the last several days, ploppo, I have seen you double post repeatedly, as well as post multiple threads in the Releases sections that weren't releasing new mods. Not gonna issue any warn level, because I assume these were honest and generally harmless mistakes, but please read the rules (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=11440.0) before further posting. ~Covarr
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-04 00:45:16
Over the last several days, ploppo, I have seen you double post repeatedly, as well as post multiple threads in the Releases sections that weren't releasing new mods. Not gonna issue any warn level, because I assume these were honest and generally harmless mistakes, but please read the rules (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=11440.0) before further posting. ~Covarr

as you can see , with my first post about help for final fantasy 8 i didn't got any useful reply , i had to do this post in order to get some helpful information , so i did nothing wrong , also double posting isn't so problematic , no need to complain for such a little thing , also , why you never reply to anyone that ask for help ? you only stay here and read everything without help despite the fact that you are the ones of those who know more about modding final fantasy 7 ,8 and 9 :O , and come to think of it , besides the two posts about help to mod final fantasy , i really didn't make any double post anywere
Title: Re: please help
Post by: Covarr on 2018-06-04 20:34:41
I know nothing about modding FF8 and FF9, and my FF7 modding knowledge is more focused on music modding. I am in no place to help with 7thHeaven, which is what most people usually need.

Saying you did nothing wrong is not true. The rules say to use the edit button instead of replying to yourself, and the rules say to post things in the right places. If you break the rules, you did something wrong, period. Instead of arguing, follow the rules, and you might get to have a pleasant stay here in the future.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-04 20:39:57
Saying you did nothing wrong is not true. The rules say to use the edit button instead of replying to yourself, and the rules say to post things in the right places. If you break the rules, you did something wrong, period. Instead of arguing, follow the rules, and you might get to have a pleasant stay here in the future.


that rule really is meaningless , also i didn't answer to myself , i give one more reply because i had to better explain myself , and for the replies i only used the "quick reply" button , or the quote sometimes , that's all , and i post in the right place , in the section about the modding tool for final fantasy 8 ,look if you admit that you did a mistake nothing will happen , don't worry , and again , i never wanted to reply to myself , i had to explain myself better for the person that helped me instead of just read and go away, and if i just modified my previous comment , none would ever read it because they already read it , and so never notice what i meant to say, just learn some flexibility
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-04 20:48:26
Look, I don't really care if you think the rules are meaningless or not. You either follow them or you will not be welcome here. Stop arguing.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-04 20:53:59
Look, I don't really care if you think the rules are meaningless or not. You either follow them or you will not be welcome here. Stop arguing.


just calm down , as i said before , there is nothing wrong if you admit that you did a mistake , just because you two are the administrators , doesn't meant that you can't make a mistake , as i already said , i wasn't reply to myself at all , i send more than one message because otherwise none would ever care about a modified message , whoever replied to help me had to notice the notification of the new reply , without the notification , none would ever reply again to make me understand better , make sure that the rules aren't an obstacle to the visibility of a post , because as you can see is really hard to get some helpful attention if someone need help, just learn to read the situations , my intentions wasn't to spite everyone , the same goes for the post in final fantasy 9 , if i just modify the comment that everyone already read , they will never notice it , is yet a miracle if i get all those replies to my comments , and you also expect to stop doing the very only thing that allow me to be noticed by the people who helped me ? and let's not forget the other reason why i can't avoid to post multiple comments , the fact that sometimes , people just read the comments and literally ignore them  , so i have to write something more catchy in order to get an answer , as you can see , i am doing this because there really isn't any other way , i am not doing this to be spiteful 
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-04 22:00:48
I made absolutely no mistake and suggesting that i did is not in your best interest. The fact of the matter is you were told politely to stop double posting as it is against the rules. Just because you have some sort of reasoning does not mean the rule does not apply to you. Nobody double posts because they were talking to themselves anyways.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-04 22:04:19
I made absolutely no mistake and suggesting that i did is not in your best interest. The fact of the matter is you were told politely to stop double posting as it is against the rules. Just because you have some sort of reasoning does not mean the rule does not apply to you. Nobody double posts because they were talking to themselves anyways.

is not double posting , i pointed things that in the previous message wasn't clear , is different , and as i said , everyone need the notification to read the new messages , they will never read again the same message since they don't even know or care if someone explained something wrongly , so yeah , this time you did the mistake , not me , i didn't just copy and paste the same message twice , i write more than one comment to make things clear for the person who replied , is more clear now ?
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-04 22:08:08
DOUBLE POSTING IS NOT ALLOWED! IS MORE CLEAR NOW? Do it again and your posts will be moderated.

Just so you are aware double posting does not mean posting the same thing twice. It means two posts back to back without a reply.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-04 22:37:21
DOUBLE POSTING IS NOT ALLOWED! IS MORE CLEAR NOW? Do it again and your posts will be moderated.

Just so you are aware double posting does not mean posting the same thing twice. It means two posts back to back without a reply.


you are wrong as i already said , and once again , double post must only be considered the copy of the previous message , explain things better with a second message can't be considered double post , and i already explained that sometimes is necessary because it happen that the first message just get completely ignored  ,so if you care so much about this foolish rule , just remind everyone to reply to the messages instead of ignore them just because they aren't catchy enough , otherwise i will have to send a second reply in order to  make sure that people reply , you can tell that by reading the conversation , without some little pushing , even years can pas without get any answer , the result is that none get the required help , understand now ?
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-04 23:05:35
I am not going to repeat myself again. You have been warned
Title: Re: please help
Post by: Tsunamix on 2018-06-04 23:55:57
just while double posting happens to be the topic here i do have a quick question.
Every day i log in here and the very first thing i do is click the "Unread posts since your last visit" link.
If you do post something and then edit it the next day, will your message re-appear on that tab?

I think that's what is bugging Ploppo here. If i could make a suggestion to the way it works would be the most recent message on a thread, if it is edited can it be placed back onto the "Unread posts since your last visit" link? Would be cool

Thanks :)
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-04 23:59:42
I dont know. Care to do an experiment and tell me if they do?
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-05 00:02:09
I am not going to repeat myself again. You have been warned

i also have to repeat myself , if i need to reply a second consecutive time because people deliberately ignore my messages or if someone that want to help me require some more explanations , i will have to do what you call double post , and again , you are wrong
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-05 00:08:50
Enough. I am not going to argue this. The rules have been around long before you showed up and will be there long after you leave. Which if you keep it up will be sooner than later. Your posts will now need admin approval before they show up and we will make sure the rules are followed.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-05 00:10:03
as you can see from the message that you yourself suspended , even after two consecutive replies i don't get an answer , even knowing that i am asking something that the interlocutor know , do you finally realized that i need to reply multiple times because otherwise none will ever care to reply ?? :O
Title: Re: please help
Post by: Covarr on 2018-06-05 00:14:28
When you reply to yourself repeatedly in the span of just a few hours, that's not people ignoring you, that's you being impatient.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-05 00:17:14
When you reply to yourself repeatedly in the span of just a few hours, that's not people ignoring you, that's you being impatient.


no , is people that are ignoring, and not only me , there are many posts that are dead only because most of the people just read and don't care to reply , and as you can see , the notification storming is the only way to stimulate everyone to reply , and your rules about double posting is making problematic to do the only thing that can solve this problem
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-05 00:31:52
You know what? I dont care. People arent obligated to answer to anyone. Least of all people that spam the crap out of topics. So the rules stay the way they are and you either accept them or you go away.



no , is people that are ignoring, and not only me , there are many posts that are dead only because most of the people just read and don't care to reply , and as you can see , the notification storming is the only way to stimulate everyone to reply , and your rules about double posting is making problematic to do the only thing that can solve this problem
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-05 00:35:01
You know what? I dont care. People arent obligated to answer to anyone. Least of all people that spam the crap out of topics. So the rules stay the way they are and you either accept them or you go away.

you are still wrong , of course nothing is physically forcing anyone to answer , but still isn't right , still this site would be meaningless and non existent at all if wasn't for people that help each other , so in the end everyone should always reply and i have all the right to make sure that this happen , again  ,if anyone ever reply to anything , there wouldn't be any forum at all , the rule that you like so much is also the cause of the partial death of this site
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-05 02:09:23
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Title: Re: please help
Post by: Kaldarasha on 2018-06-06 12:19:22
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Be patient. We can't all be online all the time, and nagging will make us want to help you less, and may lead to warnings.
And another reason why your post(s) get ignored:
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Use Meaningful, Specific Subject Headers
When posting a new thread, consider the subject header carefully. The subject is your opportunity to attract people to your thread, so it's in your own best interests to use it properly.

Stupid: HELP ME!!

Smart: Help required with getting model into FF7

Smarter: FF7 model importing issues - problem with assigning textures.

The community has become quite a bit silence, since the remake of FF7 was announced and the moding community around FF8 wasn't really huge from begin with.  It may sound sad but qhimm.forums slowly dies in regard to active moder. Probably most of the fans of the original FF PC games becomes older and therefore the interest and the willingness to spend time for it does also slowly dying.

What I want to say is that your post isn't the first one which didn't get help and it isn't the last one. And in regard to FF8 it's much higher.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: DLPB on 2018-06-06 14:37:11
Additionally, what makes you think people ignored replying?  I saw this and genuinely can't help.  And I doubt anyone would help because it's a non trivial undertaking.  The odds that you will get the tool creators seeing "please help" and even remotely being able to fulfil your request is slim at best.

You should have at least found the official threads and made a polite request.

On the bright side, you smoked SL1982 out of his retirement hole. :)

Edit.

Ha part of my response made no sense, 'cause I was at work dealing with a customer at same time.

What I meant was that the creator of the tools would need to make a non trivial update and the odds the creators will even see the contents of this thread are slim. 
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-06 15:34:27
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Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-06 15:35:16
Additionally, what makes you think people ignored replying?  I saw this and genuinely can't help.  And I doubt anyone would help because it's a non trivial undertaking.  The odds that you will get the tool creators seeing "please help" and even remotely being able to fulfil your request is slim at best.

You should have at least found the official threads and made a polite request.

On the bright side, you smoked SL1982 out of his retirement hole. :)

wrong , but i explained myself well enough , no need to repeat myself , you are just an administrator that think to always be right
Title: Re: please help
Post by: Covarr on 2018-06-06 15:40:58
ploppo, everyone who has responded to you has been around this site for years. We've seen firsthand what works and what doesn't. Your methods DO NOT WORK for getting help and support, no matter how many times you say we're wrong, the fact is we know what we're talking about and you don't.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-06 15:44:49
ploppo, everyone who has responded to you has been around this site for years. We've seen firsthand what works and what doesn't. Your methods DO NOT WORK for getting help and support, no matter how many times you say we're wrong, the fact is we know what we're talking about and you don't.

they did as you can see from the conversations that you were bitching about , infact the only problematic thing about them is quite the useless rule about double posting that you all invented , but come to think about it, i already said that isn't necessary to keep telling this
Title: Re: please help
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2018-06-07 04:22:05
Too much attention given to something that doesn't need it. Don't want to follow the rules? Warning. Still don't want to follow the rules? Ban.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-07 10:11:35
Too much attention given to something that doesn't need it. Don't want to follow the rules? Warning. Still don't want to follow the rules? Ban.


you are ridiculous and you aren't even trying to understand
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-07 11:29:41
We dont have to try and understand. It is up to you to understand our rules. Not for us to try to conform to your thoughts of how this place should be.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-07 14:16:55
We dont have to try and understand. It is up to you to understand our rules. Not for us to try to conform to your thoughts of how this place should be.

again , you are wrong, that's a wrong rule , and you can see from yourself , this forum is almost dead , and that's because of this stupid rule about double posting
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-07 17:26:46
Sure. Of course i have my head up my ass and cannot see the light. Either way i am just going to continue deleting your double posts (I am sure you have noticed already) until i tire of it. Then I am going to ban you entirely for repeatedly breaking the rules. Have a nice day.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: DLPB on 2018-06-07 17:37:40
The place is far from dead and the very people who are keeping it alive are the people you want to help you - the modders.  But, hey, guess what?  It's easier to beg and complain  and whine about that elusive mod you want than to get off your backside and learn how to make one [Note:  When I first came here I requested a Disable random battles mod  - and from there I listened and learned and now make my own mods].  And this is a forum where the regular members will be *shocker* modders.

So, of course a site like this is going to have less activity than, say, a braindead forum where the main focus of discussion is

a. How big are Tifa's tits

and

b. Whoa whatz latest news on the remake!!!?
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-07 17:40:10
Sure. Of course i have my head up my ass and cannot see the light. Either way i am just going to continue deleting your double posts (I am sure you have noticed already) until i tire of it. Then I am going to ban you entirely for repeatedly breaking the rules. Have a nice day.


your rules are ruining your forum itself
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-07 17:52:32
Indeed. Maybe you should jump ship instead of sinking?  Just a thought
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-07 18:18:17
Indeed. Maybe you should jump ship instead of sinking?  Just a thought

no you d*ck head
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-07 18:23:13
Be nice now. Attacking other people is not allowed.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: ploppo on 2018-06-07 18:30:12
Be nice now. Attacking other people is not allowed.


you are the one who is attacking with that idiotic matter about double posting -.-
Title: Re: please help
Post by: sl1982 on 2018-06-07 19:08:38
Sigh. Well nobody can say I did not try. My patience is not infinite. I hope you enjoyed your stay because it is over.
Title: Re: please help
Post by: DLPB on 2018-06-07 20:27:07
Where once was light
Now darkness falls
Where once was love
Love is no more

Don't say - goodbye
Don't say - I didn't try...
Title: Re: please help
Post by: EQ2Alyza on 2018-06-08 07:50:25
Sigh. Well nobody can say I did not try. My patience is not infinite. I hope you enjoyed your stay because it is over.

Where once was light
Now darkness falls
Where once was love
Love is no more

Don't say - goodbye
Don't say - I didn't try...

It ain’t easy having to treat adults like children.

+1 for you both.