Post by: Qhimm on 2001-02-28 11:41:00
For those of you who haven't heard of the new system (coming with Windows XP), it works like this: Everytime you install a product like Windows or Office, the installation programs scans your hardware and compiles this information into a 'hash' ID. This, together with the product code, is sent to Microsoft.com for storage. Now, consider this: If you upgrade your PC (eg. new gfx card) or get a new PC altogether and want to (re-)install the program, the hash ID is different from the one stored at Microsoft, and installation is halted. Basically, Microsoft has locked the program to a specific PC, with a specific hardware configuration. The good news in all this? There are none, except that I doubt Microsoft will be able to get a way with such a stunt.
So whatever you do; don't upgrade above Windows 2000.
Post by: Jedimark on 2001-02-28 13:58:00
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-02-28 14:08:00
Post by: halkun on 2001-02-28 14:34:00
A side shot is that things like winamp plugins, that use the raw sound streams to make the pretty fluff on the screen will no longer work, but Microsoft Windows media player will work great.
-halkun
Post by: ficedula on 2001-02-28 16:11:00
Post by: CKtalon on 2001-02-28 17:55:00
But reading that XP really disappoints me...
And MS will get to meet CJ Jackson again..
Post by: ficedula on 2001-02-28 18:04:00
But I doubt they'll actually be able to do that, the amount of bad publicity they're getting about it already is quite impressive.
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-02-28 18:52:00
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2001-02-28 20:24:00
This is the most stupid idea ever. What the point? And about that MP3 on You could also get a crack for that as well! haha nice try bill
Post by: cHiBiMaRuKo on 2001-02-28 20:41:00
Post by: dagsverre on 2001-03-01 18:50:00
I'm not defending Microsoft, they should die and Linux rules forever. ;-)
Post by: CKtalon on 2001-03-02 14:14:00
Post by: Jedimark on 2001-03-04 12:29:00
This is just another stunt so that Mcrosoft can make more money. Obviously they are not satisfied with having Windows installed on almost every home computer, but now they expect you to get a new copy every time you upgrade! Its rediculous! Microsofts arrogance at thinking everyone will buy windows again and again just because its windows will lead to its undoing. I have thought of going over to Linux on several occasions: - it is meant to be much more stable than Windows 98/ME, and Possibly 2000, but the big problem with linux at the moment is lack of support. You have to get special linux copies of games to play them, and only a few games do that, and the apps are no where near as good as office. But, I agree. if linux gets the support it deserves, it could put a stop to windows once and for all.
Post by: Jedimark on 2001-03-04 12:30:00
Post by: CKtalon on 2001-03-04 13:38:00
Well that's the new name of it..
Its based on the Win2000 kernel not the Win9x kernel
It has a professional version for businesses and a personal for gamers..
That's pretty much I know..
Linux really needs supports from software developers just like the MAc...
Post by: cHiBiMaRuKo on 2001-03-04 21:03:00
Post by: Joey on 2001-03-05 16:31:00
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-03-05 16:44:00
downloading exe is forbidden? i dont think so, ive got win2000 and i dont thinkso!
unless the admin has done it
Post by: dagsverre on 2001-03-05 17:35:00
The whole point of Linux is open-source. You don't expect your Windows programs to run flawlessly, because Linux have better alternatives. That is, in a programmer's mind they are better, though they tend to be a lot less user-friendly. Please remember that Linux is a OS made by programmers for programmers and so most people using it think user-friendliness gets in their way...
You will always be able to use the older Windows versions in a dual-boot. This means that if you don't like Windows XP, simply don't upgrade. Stay to Win2K and 98, and the problem goes away. All programs must support the previous windows versions anyway (at least they have until now).
If the new office won't run on earlier windows versions, use the old one. Office hasn't improved too much since Office 6.0 for Win3.1 anyway.
Post by: Ant on 2001-03-05 17:46:00
Post by: ficedula on 2001-03-05 18:14:00
Case in point: My current setup.
Netscape: Crashes randomly. Sometimes every 2 mins (literally), sometimes not at all during a day. I can't upgrade to a newer version because NS6/Mozilla don't support every website properly, including my bank. Which I need for online banking.
KMail: Email program. Last week, deleted all of my old email. WHY? No apparent reason.
Java: The java implementation I have doesn't work under Gnome, which is a pity, because I prefer Gnome to KDE.
I could go on...
Linux as an O/S is more stable than Windows, but out of the box, I've found Windows apps (whether MS or not) to be far more stable for me. Probably if I *wanted* to I could spend ages finding patches to make all these programs run better on my Linux setup - but why on earth should I bother, when everything runs far better under Windows with no work required?
Post by: halkun on 2001-03-05 18:45:00
-halkun
Post by: dagsverre on 2001-03-05 19:16:00
I'd have to say that Micro$oft Vi$ual $tudio is also pretty kewl.
Believing that is your priveliege of course. Just have to say I strongly disagree. Why? Well, for instance I'd like a C++ compiler that manages to compile C++ code. I once talked to a really experienced C++ programmer (well, he mostly use Java now) and I asked him about VC++. He laughed and said:
VC++? Hehe. VC++ isn't a C++ compiler!
That pretty much sums it up.
Try doing this in VC++: That is all standard C++. But VC++ doesn't compile it. And yes, I do need it and it is a really useful snippet of code. Also take this: template This line of code is crucial to STL (standard template library) which is a crucial part of the C++ standard library. Does VC++ support it? NO! VC++ have it's own version of STL to hack it's way around the problem, introducing a lot of bugs in the process. If I could count the hours wasted in Legacy because we want to be VC++ compatible and can't use standard C++ code...we were about to drop VC++ compatability once when we found a fix in the last minute. I could go on... If you meant Visual Basic I apologize, you probably don't want me to get started on why everyone should hate that one... They don't use it because it's best. They use it because of Microsoft's dominance in the market.
template
class SomeClass
{
//class...
};It is infact what most PC Games developers use nowadays so it must be the best for Win Games Programming.
Post by: CKtalon on 2001-03-05 20:56:00
Microsoft may win in the end..
Bill Gates will be reveiling in 2003 when MS starts to go bankrupt for lawsuits....
Microsoft Linux!!!!
since linux is open source...
Post by: cHiBiMaRuKo on 2001-03-05 22:49:00
[This message has been edited by cHiBiMaRuKo (edited March 05, 2001).]
Post by: Caddberry on 2001-03-09 10:19:00
"Who do you want to blow today?"
Post by: Joey on 2001-03-10 07:57:00
Post by: ficedula on 2001-03-10 19:30:00
Post by: cHiBiMaRuKo on 2001-03-10 22:03:00
Post by: M0T on 2001-04-02 23:21:00
it requires you to activate in 14days, and cos its an evaluation copy you have only 180 days but there are loads of hacks already and it hasent come out properly.
Also its a hell of a lot more stable than anything else at all. ok. Anyone wants screeshots they are large (500k 1.50mb) mail me ([email protected]) and ill mail you some just dont expect it to occur immediatly it takes a while to uploadf that much on 56k
Post by: M0T on 2001-04-02 23:51:00
to see them go here: www.geocities.com/garak112/winxpwhist.jpg www.geocities.com/garak112/winxpwhist2.jpg
Those dont seem to work so if you want them mail me at [email protected]
[This message has been edited by M0T (edited April 02, 2001).]
[This message has been edited by M0T (edited April 02, 2001).]
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-04-03 02:26:00
skillsters email
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-04-03 07:51:00
Unfortunately for me, I'm not the sole user of my home PC. Thus, installing LINUX will only make the situation worse in my house. My father in particular has major problems in getting accustomed to certain software in my PC that are of different revisions compared to his office. If it was my sole PC, i wouldn't mind installing LINUX.
LINUX is a great platform but the thing is it isn't too user friendly.
Post by: Joey on 2001-04-03 14:07:00
Find the Visual Studio Team and please kick their ASSes for me. Thank you.
Post by: M0T on 2001-04-03 20:18:00
Post by: Anonymous on 2001-04-13 06:18:00
Post by: Jedimark on 2001-04-14 12:13:00
![]("http://go.163.com/~flp27/2463/wxp_2463_02_xl.jpg")
![]("http://go.163.com/~flp27/2463/wxp_2463_03_xl.jpg")
Post by: eerrrr on 2001-04-14 19:23:00
Post by: Sir Canealot on 2001-04-14 20:36:00
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-04-14 21:56:00
Post by: eerrrr on 2001-04-14 22:41:00
Post by: Anonymous on 2001-04-15 02:55:00
int main() {
for (int i = 0; i < 3; printf("%i",++i));
int i = 5;
return 0;
}
For some odd reason, the variable i remains outside the scope of the for loop. What the heck is up with that?
Post by: ficedula on 2001-04-15 03:01:00
Post by: Joey on 2001-04-15 15:04:00
Post by: eerrrr on 2001-04-15 17:10:00
Post by: The SaiNt on 2001-04-15 17:15:00
Post by: eerrrr on 2001-04-15 17:55:00
Post by: Qhimm on 2001-04-15 18:14:00
int a,b;
{
int c;
c = 4;
}
c = 5; // Illegal
Post by: Anonymous on 2001-04-15 19:46:00
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-04-16 16:16:00
Post by: Aaron on 2001-04-16 16:19:00
...?
Post by: Joey on 2001-04-16 12:37:00
Post by: dagsverre on 2001-04-16 16:02:00
Most of the VC++ compiler problems is listed at http://www.boost.org/more/microsoft_vcpp.html
WindowBlinds: Tried it, it wastes resources and makes the machine crawl. Personally I don't bother about skins, the computer is a *tool* and I don't care much about skins as long as they let me do whatever I want to do (which does not include staring pointlessly on the window borders). But by all means go for it...
Post by: Anonymous on 2001-04-27 07:35:00
Post by: M0T on 2001-04-27 19:30:00
Post by: The Skillster on 2001-04-27 20:55:00
but thats as far as ive tested it, u will need quite a bit of memeory if its running in win2000/me/xp
Post by: M0T on 2001-04-28 00:19:00
Post by: Joey on 2001-05-03 07:48:00
Post by: M0T on 2001-05-03 19:34:00
Post by: Anonymous on 2001-05-06 23:57:00
In 1994 Erwin Unruh presented to the C++ Standards Committee a template program that generated prime numbers. The program didn’t compile, but in its error messages it displayed the prime numbers. This created a new way of thinking about templates.