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Final Fantasy 7 => Graphics => Releases => Topic started by: Matt2Tees on 2009-08-16 22:13:25
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Hi, Welcome to the Chibi Reconstruction Project, this is a work in progress mod to update all the field characters with proper hands, legs, arms and feet.
I have been working on updating the NPC's and will release new updates as more are completed
The Current version as of 01/09/09 is version 1.5
Download from the link below
Click Here (http://www.mediafire.com/?znlyz43vvhz)
To install, run the Chibi Reconstruction 1.5 exe which installs the new files to the desktop, then copy the files into the correct places (data\field and data\wm)
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awesome patch,,,, the field models look way better,,
nice one Mxster
:-o
Edit:
Ive stole MXster's cloud field model and have recoloured it ,,, i have talked to MX and asked if he could include my recoloured cloud into his chibi reconstruction mod....
he is unsure what people would make of this,,, and has declined,,,,.......................so.
i have posted an image and i would like the people (you) to vote wiether the mod should stay as is,
or include, my super-duper re-coloured cloud!
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1821/cloudvscloud.jpg)
ive tryied to match the colours to the APZ cloud.... i think its pretty close......
please vote,,
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sweet! i'll be keepin an eye out for this, thank you
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It still seems to crash at the start of the flashback and when going into Seventh Heaven...
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Kudistos have you got a save at these points that you can send me?
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Kudistos have you got a save at these points that you can send me?
Here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mcvhmdzmwyt). The same thing happened with Murak's mod.
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Ok thanks, I'll get to work on a fix for this :-D
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Hey MXster. PM me your msn.
Or drop me a line. Cause I want to work on this too.
I just don't want our work to over lap.
:-D
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Well progress is progress. I knocked off a couple of these models.
Well here you are.
Zangan and Beach Boy:
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/comparisant.jpg)
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/beachboypic.jpg)
I know their feet are a tad small. I will fix that later. Also the colors are slightly off. I will also fix this.
Right now i have to go eat dinner!
:D.
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I've just noticed that there are some animation problems with Cloud when he jumps around just before the Jenova fight starts. His limbs become slightly detached.
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I've also noticed and have hopefully fixed for next release :|
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Well people. I have just went out of my way to fix our mini game biker cloud.
He looked appalling originally.
Now not so much. Just, my work ain't the best.
:wink:
Before:
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/holycrap.jpg)
After:
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/bikerfixed.jpg)
I have not tested this in game. I am uncertain if it works.
So this is just a work in progress, at best.
Just one question.
Do i set the transparency to 0 or black in kimera?
Cause textures confuse me greatly.
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(sighs)
*edit*
Here is the beach girl:
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/beachgirlfixec.jpg)
once again, the colors are off. I will fix this once i get all the models on my quota done. Then I will go back an tweak them, until they are "perfect".
:-D
Oh, and since i do plan on doing all these models, here with MXster of course, I want to know if any of you have a requested model.
For now i am doing them alphabetically. But, if you guys have requests, that would be good too.
:-D
*edit 2*
Another character done.
Beach Man 2
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/beachman2pic.jpg)
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Lookin good.
Glad to see there will be no more pop-eye arms haha
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Awesome work! Dumb question but are these textured?
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Think only the mouth and eyes are textured on FF7 defualt models. the rest are colored polygons
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That is correct. Only the mouth and eyes are textured.
I plan to fix all the mouths eventually.
:wink:. They really do bother me. But the arms bother me more.
xD.
Here is another update. I will eventually fix all the colors. They are extremely hard to get exact in kimera. (unless i happen to be missing some crucial tool).
here is another update;
Beach Woman 1:
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/beachwoman1pic.jpg)
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LOL her bikini has sleeves
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Laugh it up!
:-D. The darker models are hard for me to do. Cause i have to adjust the brightness for each part.
It will be fixed eventually. But, for now, i don't think it will be noticed in game.
:wink:
I tried to fix her..
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/beachwomanfixed.jpg)
what do you guys think?
:-D
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arms are just a tad off still
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yeah. you are right.
I will try and fix that later. It is so tedious hitting a plus and minus button for an hour.
xD.
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(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5441/ww1.png)(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8986/ww2.png)
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Those two are lookin good MXster, you and Blood_crow teaming up?
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Those two are lookin good MXster, you and Blood_crow teaming up?
Yes we have teamed up, hopefully we can get all the models done quicker this way.
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http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8857.msg113903#msg113903
recoloured cloud.....
CHECK IT OUT!!
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New Version Released
Fixed Crash at 7th Heaven and Clouds Past, Sephiroth's model was the cause, so I have re-made him
I've moved Clouds arms slightly, which hopefully will make his animations look better
Added a few more NPC's
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(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/guyinsuitpic.jpg)
well did the guy in the suit. xD.
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There's something I've wondered...
Do their hands have to be in such unusual positions? They look like they are holding invisible batons :?
Is it harder to model hands that are a little more open?
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There's something I've wondered...
Do their hands have to be in such unusual positions? They look like they are holding invisible batons :?
Is it harder to model hands that are a little more open?
If you relax your hand at your side it forms this sort of position, you have to use your hand muscles to stretch your fingers out, so I think this position is perfectly fine.
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blood crow,, are u trying to knock these out as quick as possible, cause tbh, there not looking that good
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There's something I've wondered...
Do their hands have to be in such unusual positions? They look like they are holding invisible batons :?
Is it harder to model hands that are a little more open?
If you relax your hand at your side it forms this sort of position, you have to use your hand muscles to stretch your fingers out, so I think this position is perfectly fine.
I was thinking of a hand position halfway between the current one and stretched out, with the fingers slightly bent....
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To be honest. I know. Kimera bothers me.
And i don't have enough time. Summer is quickly closing.
And my skills in kimera, i am quite rusty. I can't get the colors to match.
And... Yeah. I will go back and fix all my models. When i can.
:|
As it is, i only have a couple of good ones.
And also, i haven't replaced the legs or anything. These are bare W.i.P shots.
:wink:, they will be better, with the final product.
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awesome patch,,,, the field models look way better,,
nice one Mxster
:-o
Edit:
Ive stole MXster's cloud field model and have recoloured it ,,, i have talked to MX and asked if he could include my recoloured cloud into his chibi reconstruction mod....
he is unsure what people would make of this,,, and has declined,,,,.......................so.
i have posted an image and i would like the people (you) to vote wiether the mod should stay as is,
or include, my super-duper re-coloured cloud!
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1821/cloudvscloud.jpg)
ive tryied to match the colours to the APZ cloud.... i think its pretty close......
please vote,,
Have to say I prefer the new colour.
Overall good job cant say I have been a big fan of the purple especially now people are making the dark blue/black custom battle models
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Ok, I have tweaked your beach boy and Zangan
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/725/bboy.png)(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9414/zangahn.png)
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I fixed the colors on the beach girl.
Well i did a modification on the beach girl.
Before: After:
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/beachbum.jpg)(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/beachbabelessblockish.jpg)
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Did she lose her feet or is just the way the model is positioned?
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Yes, her feet are missing! :-o
Her bikini is an improvement, but I think that the briefs are now a little too conservative.
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:-D lol, nice
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Is that a thong i see? lol
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Can't install your patch, Says my file version is unknown, Is it because i've already used LGPtools on it? (both normal and now Aali's)
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Is that a thong i see? lol
lol it would appear so hehe
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Can't install your patch, Says my file version is unknown, Is it because i've already used LGPtools on it? (both normal and now Aali's)
If you've edited your char.lgp at all, the patch might not work. Check "date modified"; it should be 1998. If you patch a completely unmodified char.lgp, it should work.
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Thats a drag if you want to use a modded char.lgp and update it with these files..
Good thing i backed up my originals :D
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You might want to try keeping a copy of your modded lgp, patching a clean one, then copying the files that were changed by the patch into the lgp that you had modded before using a program that extracts and replaces files in lgp archives.
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I keep back ups of all my mods. So it's not THAT bad, But still inconvenient
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I keep back ups of all my mods. So it's not THAT bad, But still inconvenient
i unfortunately have certain back ups but not all of them lol
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Just about done with Beach Woman 2
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/beachbabebetter.jpg)
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Ara?..she looks "dazzling" in green :-o
But since its chibis...hmmm..modai nai...( Sagara Sousuke voice...)
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(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/beachgirlwipeout.jpg)
Tweaked her a bit. Under the guidance of a well appreciated mentor!
:-D
Now she doesn't look as masculine. xD.
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Since the original sephi crashed the game. I tried to remake him, as close to the original one made by murak modder as i could. I just think the cape needs a bit of an adjustment.
Also, i plan on replacing the mouth soon.
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/sephiroth.jpg)
his neck isn't really that scrunched down. Its just the blurr in the pic. :|
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Does that Sephiroth work in game, without it crashing in clouds past?
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yes. I just tested it. I am uploading it now.
:-D
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Hmmm, why do his cape and parts of his legs look different from the rest of the black on his model?
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oops. i forgot to mirrior the other leg.
:-o.
And the cape is the exact same color as the rest of the model's black.
Just the feet are a different shade. Forgot to do that one too. xD.
Sorry, i have had a long day.
*edit*
fixed all of sephi's colors.
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Blood_Crowe/sephirothcompletepic.jpg)
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What about his upper body?? shouldn't the black be all the same :roll:
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It had gray in the battle model. So i just stuck to the original. But made all the colors the same.
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Well, I have made a decision. That working on this project no longer suits me. MXster, we haven't even really spoken on this project, much. Team work is lacking. And your style, obviously, differs greatly from mine. All you have done actually is replaced the arms. I thought this was a "chibi reconstruction project." Not an arm replacement project, that has already been done.
I am going to do personal mods for the time being. And I don't mean to start a flame war, or anything, its just its quite frustrating, when I replaced the entire bodies (save the head), and he only replaces the arms, and "tweaks" my models.
Well I am off. I hope you all enjoy what ever MXster can conjure up on his own.
Good Luck!
:-D
Oh, and to all of you out there, who just "mooch" off this forum, its not that hard... All it takes is the ability to read, and then you are set. It just annoys me how a lot of you, come and post comments about how my unfinished work is bad. Can most you do better?!
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fair enough, don't worry MXster, i know u could do this on ur own, but il help u........
Blood Crow u shouldn't take this so seriously, its only a bit of fun, its just to see what we can do with the game with the means and skills we have at this present moment.
i believe anyone on this forum could do what u, me and MXster have been doing if they really wanted to.
i think to do a serious chibi reconstruction project we would have to be at the standard or 'APZ freak' with his chibi cloud....
which to be fair looks f**king difficult to do.
i believe this reconstruction project is good enough for the time being, cause it stays true to the game but make the characters look slightly more realistic which is awesome
well done MXster for ur work so far. i think its great , keep it up...
(me and MX are planing a lot of things for the future so keep ur eye out for us)
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Well, I have made a decision. That working on this project no longer suits me. MXster, we haven't even really spoken on this project, much. Team work is lacking. And your style, obviously, differs greatly from mine. All you have done actually is replaced the arms. I thought this was a "chibi reconstruction project." Not an arm replacement project, that has already been done.
I am going to do personal mods for the time being. And I don't mean to start a flame war, or anything, its just its quite frustrating, when I replaced the entire bodies (save the head), and he only replaces the arms, and "tweaks" my models.
Well I am off. I hope you all enjoy what ever MXster can conjure up on his own.
Good Luck!
:-D
Oh, and to all of you out there, who just "mooch" off this forum, its not that hard... All it takes is the ability to read, and then you are set. It just annoys me how a lot of you, come and post comments about how my unfinished work is bad. Can most you do better?!
Whoa!! Ok first point, why upgrade the body's of NPC's? The main party has had their body upgraded, isn't that enough?? Second I was only 'Tweeking' your models because their colour was slightly off, and you've found a better method to solve this now, Third, we haven't been talking much because you said
I'm not allowed on MSN
Fourth The only model that you've replaced the body on was the Beach Woman, which to be honest I didn't like, and Finally The 'Hand Mod' only did the main party and important characters, I didn't continue this project to make chibis to the level of APZ, im only a basic modder and fan of ff7 so im doing this for myself and if anyone else wants to use it I give them the option
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kinda took offense to the mooching comment.. Seeing as i am actually trying to learn, I just lack time for the most part...
On topic: Shame you're leaving, this mod was shaping up nicely.
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kinda took offense to the mooching comment.. Seeing as i am actually trying to learn, I just lack time for the most part...
On topic: Shame you're leaving, this mod was shaping up nicely.
I'm not leaving, and due to the fact that Blood Crow was 'borrowing' parts from the PRP models, i don't think it will be too hard for me to continue solo, sigh :|
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I have to say I glad someone is taking the time to do this, whilst I think no one expects APZ level work, I would imagine it would take nearly a year of constant modeling/texturing to get even just the mains done, nevermind the likes of "beach lady" and all other obscure npc's I think like you say the chibis stay true to the originals but make enough improvements to give the game a breath of fresh air.
Bit of a request and im not sure how people feel about this but have you thought about replacing the open mouth textures especially on the likes of Sephiroth I always think they all look so shocked with that silly mouth design.
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I have to say I glad someone is taking the time to do this, whilst I think no one expects APZ level work, I would imagine it would take nearly a year of constant modeling/texturing to get even just the mains done, nevermind the likes of "beach lady" and all other obscure npc's I think like you say the chibis stay true to the originals but make enough improvements to give the game a breath of fresh air.
Er, these mods have nowhere near that much detail; they're basically smoothing the rough edges of the models. It would probably take too long to re-texture everything
Bit of a request and im not sure how people feel about this but have you thought about replacing the open mouth textures especially on the likes of Sephiroth I always think they all look so shocked with that silly mouth design.
This has already been addressed. Everyone hates the great big open mouths and I believe that the current modders are trying to deal with them (at least I hope so! :-D)
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Bit of a request and im not sure how people feel about this but have you thought about replacing the open mouth textures especially on the likes of Sephiroth I always think they all look so shocked with that silly mouth design.
This has already been addressed. Everyone hates the great big open mouths and I believe that the current modders are trying to deal with them (at least I hope so! :-D)
Thanks for quick reply
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Yeah Open mouths are going, lol, why do they have open mouths anyway?
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kinda took offense to the mooching comment.. Seeing as i am actually trying to learn, I just lack time for the most part...
On topic: Shame you're leaving, this mod was shaping up nicely.
I'm not leaving, and due to the fact that Blood Crow was 'borrowing' parts from the PRP models, i don't think it will be too hard for me to continue solo, sigh :|
to be honest, i only did that for zangan. :wink:.
The rest i used battle models for.
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New Version Released :lol:
First Post (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8857.msg113902#msg113902)
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about to text the new version. Thanks for your work on the project :-D
EDIT: do you just have a stock model for adding hands? Or so you remake them manually?
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about to text the new version. Thanks for your work on the project :-D
EDIT: do you just have a stock model for adding hands? Or so you remake them manually?
Stock Models for the NPC's, otherwise it would take ages, its just a basic mod to get rid of the stupid square hands and arms
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I've just noticed this:
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1231/wtfr.jpg)
Shera seems to have taken a turn for the worse :cry:
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Shera seems to have taken a turn for the worse :cry:
lol, yeah I fixed that in V1.4, your using V1.3
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Here is a nice comparison Pic, I usually make one side then mirror the parts to the other side
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3923/comparison.png)
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Very nice. I can't wait for the next release. 8-)
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looks great, For the next release can you not use that patcher? I find that thing HIGHLY annoying to use.. Always asks for a new LGP...
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looks great, For the next release can you not use that patcher? I find that thing HIGHLY annoying to use.. Always asks for a new LGP...
Ok I won't use a patcher...
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New version released, It isn't a patcher anymore as requested by hellbringer616, enjoy, I've added a fair amount of NPC's in this one, also, I've played around with some of the NPC's hands and made them less curved as requested by Kudistos Megistos, not sure if you'll notice but hey, its in there :wink:
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I've played around with some of the NPC's hands and made them less curved as requested by Kudistos Megistos, not sure if you'll notice but hey, its in there :wink:
I think it's slightly noticeable :-P
Also, it's nice to not have to play around as much with the .lgp files; installation was quicker this time :-)
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Also, it's nice to not have to play around as much with the .lgp files; installation was quicker this time :-)
Thats good to know :-D
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BTW, I believe that Murak had a problem with Tifa's animations that meant he had to make her skirt longer. Have you found any ways to get around this?
I'm worried about length of her skirt only because I want the mod to be as authentic as possible. Not for any other reasons. No. :roll:
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unofficial quote due to laziness: 'BTW, I believe that Murak had a problem with Tifa's animations that meant he had to make her skirt longer. Have you found any ways to get around this?'
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3338/tifawithoutskirt.jpg)
notice in here, on one leg, i removed the skirt from the leg, from the front, it looks reasonable, from the side however, it looks bad and not even remotely straight or like a skirt, and due to that, the animations made her legs noticeably detach from the body, so i added the skirt to the top, and that happens to be the shortest i could get it so it wasn't badly transformed so it at least resembled a skirt and not a 'parachute pant' style skirt.
the waist could be rotated or moved, but due to the butt in placement to the 'belt', it would look like the waist isnt even connected to the chest.
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I just wanted to say great work guys, great mod that's true to the original and does make quite a diffrence, if i know first thing about wrapping i'd slap on some textures, but i'm quite out of the loop at anything but Photoshop..
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How has this project been coming along? Sorry to be a necromancer, but i (amongst others) really enjoy using this mod in conjunction to the PRP and would love to see progress.