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Title: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-07-25 03:40:36
Here I will start posting all my work, as i'm somewhat tired of going a few pages back to update a slightly older model, however, those pages which i've used will be kept linked below:

Barret:
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8566.0

Tifa:
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8600.0

Aeris:
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8646.0

Red XIII:
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8574.0

Note: the Red XIII model was started by Hermoor, and I modified it to its current state

07/09/09
BARRET RELEASED
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P8TTF6SX


(http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/drfeelgud88/Barret3.jpg)

(http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/drfeelgud88/Barret4.jpg)

(http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/drfeelgud88/Barret5.jpg)

Now, for my next model!! *drumroll*

Cait Sith! - nobody uses him, nobody likes him, but alas, he's the next character we get after Red, so here we go. I have currently finished the cat portion, and the moogle body should be done fairly quickly. The legs i made somewhat split.. largely because making topology to accomodate them would be somewhat troublesome, and it would get deleted anyways when i split the model (other places like the arms keeping proper topology helps make them properly)

(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4281/picture60.png)

(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/7553/picture61.png)

(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2489/picture62.png)

Any questions feel free to ask!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-07-25 03:42:21
I like it :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: KnifeTheSky77 on 2009-07-25 04:15:28
this is nice, in that it will give me the chance to watch him die... in HD  :evil:

my hatred for the character aside, your doing a great job on the cait sith model. Cant wait for the barret field model   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-07-25 04:59:48
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6863/picture63.png)

update desu~

I'm a lil too tired to night to do his feet and legs, so that'll come sunday when i'm back home. i'm aware... these models are very not optomized, the polycount will be a fair bit lower. I'm quite pleased with cait so far though. Thoughts from the people?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Nahatma on 2009-07-25 05:38:48
sugoiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, i hope that you would release this fantastic model :wink:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-07-25 05:41:58
i will, and all of them... in due time.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-07-25 08:51:05
damn i certainly cant wait for these models to come out! there's already the awesome apz cloud, now we just need the others!  :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: slayersnext on 2009-07-25 09:02:09
XD They're really cool. I like them a lot ^^
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-07-25 18:25:27
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6863/picture63.png)

update desu~
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1955/b0ae7c17e5cd90full.gif)

It's nice to see that you're working on Cait Sith desu!  :-D

Once he, Red XIII and Barret are finished, anyone that can rip models from KH2 will be able to have high-res models for every character desu!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: nfitc1 on 2009-07-26 00:29:40
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1955/b0ae7c17e5cd90full.gif)


Where do you find all these pics... do you make them yourself?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: halkun on 2009-07-26 01:05:45
I would appreciate it if you kept the 4-chan image macros down to a minimum please.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2009-07-26 01:14:55
Not at all preferably.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-07-26 02:45:35
Where do you find all these pics... do you make them yourself?

Hardly any of them are made by me  :-D

Most of them are from the chans.

I would appreciate it if you kept the 4-chan image macros down to a minimum please.

Hey, I found this one on desuchan! OK, I'll keep them to a minimum in the on-topic forums, but sometimes they're essential.  :-P

Not at all preferably.

Oh, that's mean :cry:

EDIT:

But let's get back on topic  :-P

How's the model coming along?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Opine on 2009-07-26 19:15:21
I like seeing the giant moogle!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-07-26 19:15:39
Sorry was at an extended birthday party....
have a moogle ^^

(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3391/picture64e.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-07-26 19:25:21
Oooo, it's coming along nicely  :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: titeguy3 on 2009-07-26 22:17:21
Good Idea compiling all your work into one thread. I was personally starting to forget everything you were working on...

You're making some really nice progress, though!

question: do you think updated weapon models should be made for cait sith? They're all roughly the same thing, just different colors, after all.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-07-26 22:24:16
millenia seems to be in charge of making all the weapons... the models could largely be recycled, but i'm sure he'd go to town adding lil details and variations in the textures that would add some interest to cait sith's weapons.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-07-26 22:39:50
I need a tester for barret - pm me please
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-07-27 03:41:22
I need a tester for barret - pm me please

Testing went well, Model is exellent :-)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-07-27 03:43:03
I thought you were testing it haha
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-07-28 01:33:01
Just to let ye all know i'm still working, heres a lil cid face :P (i know its rly crappy, it didnt get much time or love)

(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8851/picture65.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-07-28 01:35:29
Just to let ye all know i'm still working, heres a lil cid face :P (i know its rly crappy, it didnt get much time or love)

Well its a start on the next character model, so its all good  :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP thread.
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-07-28 02:29:33
millenia seems to be in charge of making all the weapons... the models could largely be recycled, but i'm sure he'd go to town adding lil details and variations in the textures that would add some interest to cait sith's weapons.

Of course thats not a bad thing.

I personally like all his little details. And the damage i LOVE that part :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: halkun on 2009-07-28 02:37:00
Timu, would you like your other threads locked so that we can concentrate on this one? (The correct answer may be "yes")
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-07-28 02:39:55
"yes"
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-07-28 03:19:25
He's a youtube vid of the Barett Model

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_-t7Jm4SXQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_-t7Jm4SXQ)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: halkun on 2009-07-28 04:59:15
"yes"

Ok, the other threads are locked and forwarded.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Opine on 2009-07-28 19:41:52
He's a youtube vid of the Barett Model

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_-t7Jm4SXQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_-t7Jm4SXQ)

Thanks for posting a link! This video looks great.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2009-07-28 21:16:31
Timu, it's ok you put the link to my thread in here. :-)

That would have been Halkun, seeing the thread name and thinking it was timu's.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-07-28 21:47:46
That would have been Halkun, seeing the thread name and thinking it was timu's.

timu put the link to Hermoor's topic here, halkun locked it  :-o
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2009-07-28 23:43:31
Timu hasn't touched the first post since the 26th, it was Halkun.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: halkun on 2009-07-28 23:52:42
That was me, you need your thread unlocked?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Izban on 2009-07-30 00:58:08
from the look of the video barrets arm bone is too long but thats an easy fix it just takes time and kimera iirc
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: obesebear on 2009-08-13 05:39:08
I was wondering if you still need the Barret Model all chopped up?  I've gotten pretty handy at 3D modeling and would be thrilled to do it
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-13 05:51:56
OMG that barret model looks amazing! Are you planning on releasing it?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-08-13 17:18:18
The Barret model is fine, Timu should release it soon, (he keeps putting it off, lol)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-08-13 17:59:06
The Barret model is fine, Timu should release it soon, (he keeps putting it off, lol)

I hope so! There haven't been any updates for quite a while; I hope that timu sumisu hasn't given up on these projects...
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-08-13 18:00:35
No he hasn't, he usually works on his models and recently his tutorials on Thursdays and Fridays
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-19 16:52:19
i'll try n get barret done tmrw, rly sorry guys for delaying it so much. On another note, i've lost a lot of inspiration to work on all this... can anyone think of a cool model to get done?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-19 16:55:21
This may be a dumb question but has anyone done a bad ass sephiroth?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-08-19 16:56:47
Shinra MP! And those weird blue buys you fight in the bombing mission that shoot umm bubbles? At you

Bad ass sephiroth wins
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-19 17:00:07
if by badass you mean topless then no
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-19 17:02:11
LOL thats not really what i meant. I was talking about a sephiroth model that compares to your barret (ie badass) but if you wanted him topless....

Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: KnifeTheSky77 on 2009-08-19 17:05:52
I would gladly take a sephiroth with his shirt on, lets not forget cid either. President shinra, the turks, zack, any of the monsters...

Heck, if you felt so inclined you could redo the visual effects from casting magic. If you did any of these things, I'd love you... TO DEATH  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-08-19 17:10:09
i'll try n get barret done tmrw, rly sorry guys for delaying it so much.

That's great to hear :-D

On another note, i've lost a lot of inspiration to work on all this... can anyone think of a cool model to get done?

The problem here is that you already have a lot of unfinished models. I think it's better to do one at a time; that way, if you give up halfway through, you'll still have a few finished models that can be used in the game. If you have several projects going on at the same time and give up halfway through, nothing usable will have been made.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-19 17:10:59
I would gladly take a sephiroth with his shirt on, lets not forget cid either. President shinra, the turks, zack, any of the monsters...

Heck, if you felt so inclined you could redo the visual effects from casting magic. If you did any of these things, I'd love you... TO DEATH  :mrgreen:

Choco/Mog summon almost redone
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Lionfist on 2009-08-19 19:38:09
i'll try n get barret done tmrw, rly sorry guys for delaying it so much. On another note, i've lost a lot of inspiration to work on all this... can anyone think of a cool model to get done?

Tifa imo  :-P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-08-19 19:50:37
First get Barret finished, then Tifa as they're the two members you get at the start of the game
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-19 22:07:06
i'll try n get barret done tmrw, rly sorry guys for delaying it so much. On another note, i've lost a lot of inspiration to work on all this... can anyone think of a cool model to get done?

Tifa imo  :-P

already modeled her The models are done, and i'm not much of a texturer, so get on millenia's case :P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-08-19 22:09:34
Wait, the models are done? All of them? Can we see what they look like? :-P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-08-19 22:38:11
Can you send me the completed models, I have some decent textures I could map to them  :-)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Borde on 2009-08-19 23:00:08
I'd go for someone who has recived less attention. Maybe Elena, Reno or Tseng. I think Jessie would be also pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-19 23:08:32
oh my... first post ppl

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8704.msg109574#msg109574 (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=8704.msg109574#msg109574)

i havnt done /everyone/ but i've done a few
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Satoh on 2009-08-19 23:12:38
Ok, I'm working on Rufus... (albeit slowly since my inspiration is gone) But once I finish him, I may be starting on Vincent... So, I suggest the Turks, some of the normal enemies, or Yuffie...  (though I may make Yuffie my own as well... no guarantees yet)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-19 23:22:08
I'm planning on doin the main cast myself :P may the first one there win... or follow up with a 1337er model.

in the mean time upgrading clouds avatar

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3109/cloudav.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-19 23:30:12
Are you planning on doing all the avatars timu?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-19 23:33:21
hell why not :P Theres a mountain of assets in this game that need redoing, might as well dig at wtv i can
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-19 23:34:32
Sweet cause id like to use them in my mod. With permission of course
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-19 23:44:02
slap my name on there n its a done deal. I also suggest with upcoming releases to put some kind of a open liscence blob in the readme (dunno if you do) but some kind of disclaimer is a good thing to have.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-20 00:07:31
slap my name on there n its a done deal. I also suggest with upcoming releases to put some kind of a open liscence blob in the readme (dunno if you do) but some kind of disclaimer is a good thing to have.

Good good, ill absolutely put your name in there. As for the open license thing does it really matter? If someone is going to try to rip our work off as their own a license isnt going to stop them
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: halkun on 2009-08-20 00:20:27
slap my name on there n its a done deal. I also suggest with upcoming releases to put some kind of a open liscence blob in the readme (dunno if you do) but some kind of disclaimer is a good thing to have.

We don't own the copyright to this, we can't sublicense the IP. Square will have kittens.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-20 00:25:26
slap my name on there n its a done deal. I also suggest with upcoming releases to put some kind of a open liscence blob in the readme (dunno if you do) but some kind of disclaimer is a good thing to have.

We don't own the copyright to this, we can't sublicense the IP. Square will have kittens.

There ya go. But your name will definately be involved in the releases
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-20 00:31:58
I LOVE KITTENS!

I just meant mumbo jumbo about who owns what and such. Anyhow, if you say no, then so be it
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-08-20 04:05:07
*snickers* ......Kittens :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Masa-Buster on 2009-08-21 04:32:50
I love kittens!!!! Wish I had a kitten mine just had to grow up -_-

Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-08-21 16:19:39
Are you guys? God...you sound like girls. :roll:

I ♥ koneko they are super kawaii desu neeeee!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Opine on 2009-08-21 16:21:10
Hey, real men aren't afraid to play with kittens.
Well, actually sometimes they can be kind of scratchy... and bitey... On second thought, best to keep your distance.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Satoh on 2009-08-21 16:54:14
Ok, so... umm... how about some modeling talk... at least for a bit...
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-21 17:04:02
I think timu has given up on modelling
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: KnifeTheSky77 on 2009-08-21 17:14:04
I think timu has given up on modelling

I would rather dismember a kitten than come to that realization. I would tear it apart limb from limb breaking bones and chanting satanic hymns all the while.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-08-21 17:48:32
idk but these were looking pretty good! i hope he keeps it up with the work and everyone seems to look forward to this  :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-08-21 18:10:10
I think timu has given up on modelling

I would rather dismember a kitten than come to that realization. I would tear it apart limb from limb breaking bones and chanting satanic hymns all the while.

And then I'd upload a video of you doing that to Youtube and tell 4chan where you live :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-08-21 18:16:05
I think timu has given up on modelling

I would rather dismember a kitten than come to that realization. I would tear it apart limb from limb breaking bones and chanting satanic hymns all the while.

And then I'd upload a video of you doing that to Youtube and tell 4chan where you live :-D
that is a good idea! do it! lol
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-08-21 18:17:53
We have to wait for knifethesky77 to kill that kitten first.

Also, this would be an incredibly bad idea, so it won't be happening :-P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-21 23:09:58
I think timu has given up on modelling

I would rather dismember a kitten than come to that realization. I would tear it apart limb from limb breaking bones and chanting satanic hymns all the while.

Well given I love kittens, I definately can't let that happen! so here... have an advnet children qualitiy Cloud face that I found a way to make usable in ff7 with realtime ambient occlusion and alpha blended maps

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4046/cloudpic.jpg)


sorry... just kidding, I whipped that up a while back n no it will never go into ff7, however, I will get back to modeling soon. I'm kinda of hyped working on character avatars, given I havnt done vector work in a long time. If you guys have any texturing skill let me know and I'll make some uv maps of my models for ye to work on! :D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: obesebear on 2009-08-22 03:52:56
No texture skill.. but I can get your model into Kimera quickly when the models are ready
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-08-22 06:26:36
@knifethesky77

Devil Incarnate-ish huh? Killing kittens won't make your life better.......it gets worst!!! ( Bakemonogatari
 Fan..Here!)

@Timu

What would make you inspired again to work on?....

We'll practically help you if that's what you want.....
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-22 15:19:59
Don't worry, i'm getting back into it already, just not so much modeling, i'm having fun doing vector art for the team avalanche project

EDIT:

adding to the chronicle of my work, a tifa avatar

(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/289/tifaav.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-08-23 01:33:02
 :-o KAWAII!!!...I can't help it!! (Sorryy..Halkun)

Aaahhh..Can I use this to cover my notebook?...a Fan of your work and all.. Can you do an Aeris Avatar next?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-08-23 02:32:27
Hmm, I think Aeris will just me stretched out and crappy lookin XD (he doesn't like her. For that matter neither do i XD)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-23 05:05:36
in vectors it dont matter, but yes shes next, as sthe screen shot i'm basing these from has her as the last one, then i'll need new screen caps
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-08-23 05:28:17
You want screen caps or the actual images?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-23 13:26:27
screen caps are just as good, takes less time to do, n you can get most of em all done at once.

:-o KAWAII!!!...I can't help it!! (Sorryy..Halkun)

Aaahhh..Can I use this to cover my notebook?...a Fan of your work and all.. Can you do an Aeris Avatar next?

For the notebook, you gonna print this out? I can send you a higher rez version
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-08-24 05:12:32
Soo just wondering Timu, That new cloud head you got up there, How many polys is it compared to your complete models? haha
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-24 05:20:21
er... something like 30k for the head... most of my ingame models are 3k for the whole thing
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-08-24 05:23:18
damn thats high haha.

Probably took FOREVER to model.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-24 05:34:20
modified a stock model, and its not much different than normal modeling, you work wiht the same number of polies... they're just subdivided and smoothed.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-08-24 05:36:20
Oh, so rendering adds the extra polies then?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-24 05:39:33
its a modifier, kind of a 3d filter of sorts, adds an operation to ever poly in the model (cut eat square into 4 squares, x amount of times, and averages position to smooth)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-08-24 10:52:04
@Timu

I'll make you my master if you give me those hi rez pics!!!..At least then you could complete the set of all the main characters...So I'll wait till you finish them...Then we could share this with everybody!!!!..Wouldn't be nice then?.... My Notebook can wait...
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: SwornEnemy on 2009-08-25 16:07:27
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Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: SwornEnemy on 2009-08-25 16:48:34
MXSTER! STOP FUCKIN ROUND WITH MY PROFILE
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-25 22:49:57
stop making so many accounts >>
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-08-25 23:36:06
stop making so many accounts >>

Elaborate on that please.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-08-26 01:00:37
...
MXSTER! STOP f***IN ROUND WITH MY PROFILE
stop making so many accounts >>
what the hell is going on?!  :?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-08-26 01:31:41
I'm really not too sure  :?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-08-26 01:32:30
i was talking to raziel
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread.
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-08-26 01:50:49
i was talking to raziel
wut other accs does he have?

EDIT: forget it, its not the point of this thread... sorry timu
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-08 00:54:17
Barret model is finalized and released, check the first post for the link, everyone, post your awesome screenshots! the best will be posted with the release link!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 00:54:58
Going to put this mod into my game right away :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: BrokenCrowe (Mendelevium) on 2009-09-08 01:01:31
Any word when Millenia (spelling) is going to release his barret weapons?
>>;;
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-08 01:02:45
When he gets around to it
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: BrokenCrowe (Mendelevium) on 2009-09-08 01:04:36
When he gets around to it
:-P


also timu
what is this other stuff you included in the release... .DS_store??
__MACOSX???
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-08 01:05:43
hmmm probably byproducts of mac OSX built in archive maker... i dont see it in my files :P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-09-08 01:08:45
Finally released it then  :lol:, I'm not sure why you delayed it for so long, because it looks the same as the one I've had for 2 months now.... But Awesome non the less!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-08 01:09:51
I had to fix the texture on the gunarm stub, then i messed with the bones a bit but it messed it up, so we had to peice it back together :P (before, the skin portion of the stub had metal on it... cant release it like that ;))
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-08 01:10:08
Finally released it then  :lol:, I'm not sure why you delayed it for so long, because it looks the same as the one I've had for 2 months now.... But Awesome non the less!

I had to fix the bugs  :-P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-09-08 01:15:32
Finally released it then  :lol:, I'm not sure why you delayed it for so long, because it looks the same as the one I've had for 2 months now.... But Awesome non the less!

I had to fix the bugs  :-P

What Bugs?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-08 01:22:31
Finally released it then  :lol:, I'm not sure why you delayed it for so long, because it looks the same as the one I've had for 2 months now.... But Awesome non the less!

I had to fix the bugs  :-P

What Bugs?

It was causing some crashing
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-08 01:22:37
Just managed to get this working. I might upload a screenie, if I can be bothered :-P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-09-08 01:27:44
lol, crashing?, you forget, I have been using this model. Here's a comparison shot, the old one on the left and the new on the right, I have to say you shouldn't have bothered changing anything cos they look identical

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7759/comparisond.th.png) (http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7759/comparisond.png)

Edit: Im sorry, Im just in a negative mood...  :roll:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-08 01:33:54
Thats because none of the changes were successful :P the changes i did wouldnt work, so long story short, its nearly the same as what you had, main change is the texture fix
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: willis936 on 2009-09-08 02:19:46
big Big BIG!

THIS IS AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-08 02:25:20
Preview of some funniez to come:

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7236/picture2av.png)

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1469/picture3ax.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-08 02:44:09
WOOT! I'm SO going to test this out! Thanks for releasing this!  :-D
Now for some screenshots!
(http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/drfeelgud88/Barret3.jpg)

(http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/drfeelgud88/Barret4.jpg)

(http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww236/drfeelgud88/Barret5.jpg)

Hope you like them!  :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-08 04:27:16
Waahh!!!??? :-o

 That's bad a$$ for you..Great job Timu!!... gonna dl now!!! :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-08 04:29:06
Preview of some funniez to come:

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7236/picture2av.png)

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1469/picture3ax.png)
Hahaha! His eyes are HUGE!  :-o
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-08 04:29:42
chibi eyes lulz
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: FF7Doug on 2009-09-08 21:53:20
Timu Sumisu-

Barret Model is excellent! Great work. How is your Tifa model coming? It would be nice to have the trio :)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-08 22:40:39
Hermoor used my picture, yay!  :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: romeo14 on 2009-09-09 01:49:36
after installing this and see it in action all i can say is...
this is wat i love about this forum - more than one mind working together to make such a master piece.
just like Team Avalanche's 2D Overhaul im liking the community working together instead of competing :)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: aaronlite on 2009-09-09 03:17:18
Awesome, I will put this in game sometime later. Rocking work.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-09 07:04:50
Woah!!..Somehow I feel like Mr. T resurrected in my laptop...hehee :-D


But great work man!.... This will be added to a fine collectors edition of the FFVII MODDING Community..
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-09 15:40:16
I'm working on converting this over to the field.
Question #1 - Do you care if I post a link to it once I finish?

Question #2 - When I load the battle model, the sbck weapon displays as the original and not the textured version.  Did I miss something?

Question #3 - I more like the idea of him running around with his Advent Children style hand instead of a gun.  In the event you don't mind me releasing this, I would like to know what other's opinions are on the matter?  It won't take much to mirror his left hand and map it to the metal of the gun.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-09 15:47:50
I'm working on converting this over to the field.
Question #1 - Do you care if I post a link to it once I finish?

Question #2 - When I load the battle model, the sbck weapon displays as the original and not the textured version.  Did I miss something?

Question #3 - I more like the idea of him running around with his Advent Children style hand instead of a gun.  In the event you don't mind me releasing this, I would like to know what other's opinions are on the matter?  It won't take much to mirror his left hand and map it to the metal of the gun.

Are you planning to make a full size model or chibi? Because i know timu is working on a chibi and would probably not want you to release one of those
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-09 15:58:46
Are you planning to make a full size model or chibi? Because i know timu is working on a chibi and would probably not want you to release one of those
Full size. 
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-09-09 16:09:35
Barret doesn't have any textured guns released yet
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-09 16:28:29
Barret doesn't have any textured guns released yet

Nope. And you probably wont see any until milennia finishes clouds weapons
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-09 16:30:04
Ahhhh, I thought the first one had been done.  My bad.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-09-09 16:37:00
First two are done. Just that they aren't released in game, If you know how to do that. try contacted millenia, And asking if you convert, if he'll release them (he did it with Clouds swords)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-09-09 16:48:58
First two are done. Just that they aren't released in game, If you know how to do that. try contacted millenia, And asking if you convert, if he'll release them (he did it with Clouds swords)

Well considering i know nothing about 3d it would be pointless to ask. Ill talk to timu later tho
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-09-09 16:53:49
was talking to obesebear on the converting haha. I believe it was him, Or Timu that got Clouds swords working. Time to go and check

I stand corrected. It was NeoCloudStrife. NEO! we need you! (i feel like i am in the Matrix now..)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: f1thos on 2009-09-09 18:22:38
This model for Barrett looks fine, except for the fact from the neck up it doesn't look like Barrett at all. Maybe a severely demasculined Barrett at best. Don't get me wrong, it's a great model, and I can appreciate all the time that went into it, but it simply doesn't look like Barrett. Barrett is supposed to be rough and masculine. You took his balls away.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-09 18:33:10
I'm working on converting this over to the field.
Question #1 - Do you care if I post a link to it once I finish?

Question #2 - When I load the battle model, the sbck weapon displays as the original and not the textured version.  Did I miss something?

Question #3 - I more like the idea of him running around with his Advent Children style hand instead of a gun.  In the event you don't mind me releasing this, I would like to know what other's opinions are on the matter?  It won't take much to mirror his left hand and map it to the metal of the gun.

1/ I'd rather you keep to yourself, and not spread it about.

2/ millenia's weapons arnt released yet

3/ the gun arm is a plot point of ff7... shouldnt change. that and, the metal wouldnt map well to a hand, least of all the left hand.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Costa07 on 2009-09-09 21:13:30
Wow timu excellent work going on here you always seem to amaze me with or texture and artistic work.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-09 21:19:58
textures arnt mine
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-10 03:28:21
Thanks for using my screenshots timu I feel so honored! And btw, 'gratz on achieving "freak" status lol.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-13 14:06:47
Hi people!
Maybe i missed something,but why model is black? :?
something wrong with textures??
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-13 16:01:58
Hi people!
Maybe i missed something,but why model is black? :?
something wrong with textures??
Pssst... Barret is supposed to be black.  Not everyone in the world is light skinned you know...

RACIST!!
 :-P

Seriously though, it should work just fine... redownload?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-13 16:16:12
he's based on the original model, colors n all, as to yer problem squallff8, try reinstalling it, i cant think of what would make it black. you just put all the files in and compiled the lgp?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-13 16:48:24
Here what i mean(I don't have anything against Black People :-P):
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/squallff8_2008/2.jpg)

I did the same operations like with APZ Cloud.As you can see his Gun arm is OK.Something wrong with Body texture.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-13 17:01:27
first thing that comes to mind is are you using aali's driver, because i think u need to to use 1024/1024 textures, of which the body is one.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-13 17:46:34
first thing that comes to mind is are you using aali's driver, because i think u need to to use 1024/1024 textures, of which the body is one.

OH!Yeah..you right!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: SwornEnemy on 2009-09-14 00:24:14
sweet model ive had it for months but still sweet lookin forward to ur work in the future
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-14 15:57:02
>>ive had it for months
Wow, will you be my hero plz?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Alkor on 2009-09-17 18:59:26
timu sumisu
If u will some one made some other models? mb u'll look this thread: _http://bbs.ffsky.com/disp.aspx?ID=1654607&bid=2
There are good artwork  :wink:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-17 19:20:51
Not quite suer what you mean, thers some nice concept art on that, though I'm more partial to the original style than advent chidlren. I am making the other characters, no concern
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-18 01:19:25
timu sumisu
If u will some one made some other models? mb u'll look this thread: _http://bbs.ffsky.com/disp.aspx?ID=1654607&bid=2
There are good artwork  :wink:

Are these Concept Art from the official artists? Or just Fan made?

 :-o :? 8-) :lol:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-18 05:39:48
timu sumisu
If u will some one made some other models? mb u'll look this thread: _http://bbs.ffsky.com/disp.aspx?ID=1654607&bid=2
There are good artwork  :wink:

Are these Concept Art from the official artists? Or just Fan made?

 :-o :? 8-) :lol:


Fun made...
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-18 06:03:01
timu sumisu
If u will some one made some other models? mb u'll look this thread: _http://bbs.ffsky.com/disp.aspx?ID=1654607&bid=2
There are good artwork  :wink:

Are these Concept Art from the official artists? Or just Fan made?

 :-o :? 8-) :lol:
Fun made...

*why ya little...*

Come on I'm serious.... :x

Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-18 06:22:16
timu sumisu
If u will some one made some other models? mb u'll look this thread: _http://bbs.ffsky.com/disp.aspx?ID=1654607&bid=2
There are good artwork  :wink:

Are these Concept Art from the official artists? Or just Fan made?

 :-o :? 8-) :lol:
Fun made...

*why ya little...*

Come on I'm serious.... :x




I was serious too :-).It's just parody on official arts.Here is real Tetsuya Nomura's artwork:
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_final-fantasy-7-advent-children_a.html
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-18 06:29:43
timu sumisu
If u will some one made some other models? mb u'll look this thread: _http://bbs.ffsky.com/disp.aspx?ID=1654607&bid=2
There are good artwork  :wink:

Are these Concept Art from the official artists? Or just Fan made?

 :-o :? 8-) :lol:
Fun made...

*why ya little...*

Come on I'm serious.... :x




I was serious too :-).It's just parody on official arts.Here is real Tetsuya Nomura's artwork:
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_final-fantasy-7-advent-children_a.html


I see.... I was kinda mesmerized/surprised by the Artwork..Even thinking it was an authentic Concept Art...
But you're right it was "Fun Made"..  :lol:

Sorry for earlier though... :oops:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-19 00:11:41
*deleted*
 :-)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-19 00:14:50
Had some experiments with Ehrgeiz today:

It's nice to see some work being done on Ehrgeiz :-)

However, I suggest you put that in another thread, or Halkun might delete this one :lol:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-19 01:02:46
its fascinating how they still unwrap characters teh same way, but alas yes, keep it elsewhere, i dont want halkun to eat my thread
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-19 20:25:14
Okay!Sure...i deleted them!I don't mean use them,because models won't be releasable.
I meant use them like example for making new from scratch!
Ehrgeiz have many missing Chars like Tifa(Old style),Vincent,Yuffi,Sephiroth,Django(can be used for Red XIII)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-20 03:55:23
its not unwrapped, so you can have some fun trying to do that, texture as you see fit, and feel free to release, but based on the outcome it may or may not be included in the avalanche name (were anal about our product quality)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: yoann80 on 2009-09-20 13:08:34
Hello everybody I am a French player of ff7, I am following your work for a while and I love ff7 remakes has nine is cool, cloud and barret but when aerith as in crisis core?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-20 15:11:14
i am remaking the main cast of ff7, so they'll get done eventually, however i am not remaking characters in costumes or designs other than the original game, so no CC aeris
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: yoann80 on 2009-09-20 15:44:52
ok but I have seen on the site that someone has managed to make aerith cc but there is no link  :-(
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2009-09-20 16:36:26
Because that model was from CC, by law it's illegal to share it out.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: yoann80 on 2009-09-20 16:42:09
ha ok , thanks for information
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Dango88 on 2009-09-21 00:16:32
Hi, I have to ask if any progress has been made on the Tifa Model, she's my favourite character  :oops:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-09-21 00:17:56
I belive the model is finished, it just needs a texture mapped to it  :wink:
I'm sure it will be done eventually....
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Dango88 on 2009-09-21 00:19:14
oh, well I wouldn't know anything about texturing, I just love playing the game  :lol:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-09-21 00:29:48
I just love playing the game  :lol:

Me too, but I also enjoy customizing everything I can! I also like testing mods and improving upon them, if I can  :lol:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-21 03:26:30
I'm scheming an interesting project, keep your eyes peeled, i'll need lotsa feedback on my preproduction work.

H'okay: here we go ;)

I got my hands on dissidia sometime back, and found that cloud's design was quite interesting, take more from its anime roots. Now, as much as I love Apz's cloud model (it inspired me to model up a whole buncha stuff) I dont find it fits that well with the rest of the anime style of ff7. Given I'm highly familiar with the character I figure this'd be a good project
1- to add to team avalanches graphical overhaul
2- practice my texturing cuz if anyone has notice... I havnt textured any of my models

Now lets analyse this. (the following is partly for feedback, and also for me to put my ideas down and conjure up some answers)

Our big issue here is the design. Lets take a look at the original
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Cloud_Strife_art.jpg)


I think it looks a little silly, largely because of the belt. Comparing the original, and the dissidia model, lets take a look at where the belt is placed ( i added the SOLDIER logo texture to help show this point)

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9817/picture11i.png)

Originally, the belt and SOLDIER logo acted as something of a "champions belt" (think those wrestler belts), and covered the torso and mid to upper abs. In dissidia, the belt is around the waist, acting more like *shock* what do you know... a belt. I think this looks better, and reduces the image of a nerd with his pants too high, which just doesnt fit cloud. (feel free to shout pro con). The problem here is that the original belt is at the bottom of the torso peice, and where the dissidia belt is, would be more in the crotch peice. This'd look something like

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6761/picture12eo.png) (http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3193/picture13w.png)

It would be fairly hidden by the legs, and might animate awkwardly, but for all i know might be fine, its a tough call and hard to know this early into producing the model. Another issue is the style of the belt. Dissidia has a wide belt with a smalle band around it, the compilation has the Soldier belt supported by 2 regular belts, and the original, as seen in the artwork above, is just a wide leather belt with metal studs. - not sure where to go with that.

Luckily, the hair isnt a big issue, as the dissidia hairstyle is similar yet new-ish enough that it fits my goals, and is a fine reference.

The last issue bugging me (that i can think of) is color. Uniform - blue, purple, black - who knows, I'm really not sure where to go wtih this, the project is going towards staying close to the original, but i dunno... the purple rly bugs me. dissidia does it well, but nonethe less.. same with the hair. more orange like kh, more yellow/greenish like dissidia, more natural blonde like ac? give your ideas.

Here's a closeup of each model should you need it -
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3144/picture7v.png)
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4457/picture14i.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-21 04:42:05
I always thought his hair was a dirty blonde (reference the original artwork you posted).

As for the uniform.  I remember reading (somewhere) that the uniform was going to be black (like crisis core) in the original game, but the creators decided on purple at the last minute because they didn't like the way the black color looked against the other backgrounds.   Personally, I say black is the way to go.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: secondadvent on 2009-09-21 04:51:26
in essence, purple is black (look at a black chocobo... it is pretty purple to me :D), so i would agree with going for black. he is supposed to be (impersonating) a first class SOLDIER anyway, and firsts wear black suits >:D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-09-21 20:11:15
he is supposed to be (impersonating) a first class SOLDIER anyway, and firsts wear black suits >:D

They only wear black in crisis core, in the original game they wore purple
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-21 20:13:03
I suppose i'm gonna have to try and make purple look xtra badass
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-09-21 20:24:19
I suppose i'm gonna have to try and make purple look xtra badass

Your good with photoshop right? why not just make the uniform purple, then re-colour it black, include both with the model and ppl can choose, then everyone's happy :wink:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-21 20:32:56
I suppose i'm gonna have to try and make purple look xtra badass

Your good with photoshop right? why not just make the uniform purple, then re-colour it black, include both with the model and ppl can choose, then everyone's happy :wink:

But the battle model was blue :|

But as long as it's easy to do, I agree with the idea of making two releases with different colours.

I'll be using the colour that's closest to the original :wink:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-21 20:33:31
i'm not that good with photoshop, but i'll experiment when its done, any thots on the other aspects? such as the belt?

and no, the original battle model was actually purple
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Costa07 on 2009-09-21 20:37:03
i'm not that good with photoshop, but i'll experiment when its done, any thots on the other aspects? such as the belt?

and no, the original battle model was actually purple

The belt should be at the waist not high up like the original makes him look nerdy lol   :-P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-21 20:39:15
and no, the original battle model was actually purple

Looks pretty blue to me (http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3109/ff7sephwin2.jpg) :wink:. Maybe a slightly purplish blue, but the blue is stronger than the purple. I was worried that people were confusing his battle model with his field model (which was definitely purple).
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-21 20:48:43
(http://mirex.mypage.sk/GALERY/clouds.jpg)   hrm, interesting contrast

While we're at it, the cg render is purple too

(http://www.blamethepixel.com/sigs/ff7-cloud4.jpg)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-21 20:52:34
Ah, Square and their inconsistencies :-P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: DeadManInBlack on 2009-09-21 21:09:45
Well it almost looks a dark purple/blue you see it all the time in anime the only true blacks are shadows everything else is dark grey/blue.

I think the dissidia color is a nice balance.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-21 23:45:06
because i want a spiky haired anime style cloud.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-22 00:57:05
that is what i said... is there a misunderstanding?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-22 02:12:21
i meant more anime than apz's model, and no, I save the mini skirts for tifa and the tail for red. I'd appreciate if you left your prejudice of anime in the completely unrelated board.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-22 03:30:28
Cloud's Hair Spikes needs more Balance... It somehow reminds me of Goku....
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-22 22:57:57
So i've modeled up a head so far, at first i modeled it after dissidia, then bent and morphed it to have more anime shape, (anime being original style) so shorter face, longer hair.

The hairstyle is a hybrid of dissidia and the original, with the odd flair of personal adjustment, its not optimized yet, so ignore the excess of polies floating around.
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/226/picture21.png)
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6563/picture22n.png)
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5161/picture23.png)
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8935/picture24q.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-22 23:03:48
His hair looks quite nice so far.

His cheeks and chin look fairly strange, however; they seem to stick out quite a lot and feel too rounded. Of course, they might look better once they have been textured.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-22 23:12:55
we'll see, the barret model i did was quite close to the original. I could viable make the muscles that extra bit more huge, but we'll see
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-22 23:13:20
That face looks sexy

It's nice to see that you're finally coming to terms with your sexuality :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-22 23:17:18
Oh shut up, you are the one sexually confused here. Now don't spam Timus thread you dirty bastard.

Please don't start fights in the on-topic forums, and watch your language.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-22 23:27:32
As amusing as I find your arguments, keep it elsewhere.

I adjusted the chin a little bit, the cheeks are fine, and quickly wrapped the dissidia texture to give an idea of the facial structure.

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2198/picture26z.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-22 23:30:54
Ah, so the face does look better with some textures! :-D

It's looking pretty good now. The only concern is the shape of the eyes; his eyebrows are very angry, but the eyes seem calm. It's a minor (and possibly misplaced) complaint, however, and it might not even be noticeable in battle.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-22 23:34:32
I don't think he is going to use the dissidia texture...  :roll:

Nor do I, but it's still worth pointing out. Perhaps the texture on Timu's Cloud could be made better than the one on Dissidia Cloud :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: KnifeTheSky77 on 2009-09-22 23:38:05
Oh shut up, you are the one sexually confused here. Now don't spam Timus thread you dirty bastard.

OH YOU GUYs I love the constant bickering, just not in front of cloud. He is still young and innocent.

Timu Sumisu: That is a sexy cloud face, granted I am a raging heterosexual so its O-K. I think you should add a lot of smaller spikes on the back of the head like the crisis core cloud had, they all kinda pointed to the back of his head to form a cone shape. I say this because it looks like he shaved the back of his head and spray painted his scalp to match his hair color.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Costa07 on 2009-09-22 23:38:49
Wow timu looking good wish i could make 3d models like that.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-22 23:51:50
Timu Sumisu: That is a sexy cloud face, granted I am a raging heterosexual so its O-K. I think you should add a lot of smaller spikes on the back of the head like the crisis core cloud had, they all kinda pointed to the back of his head to form a cone shape. I say this because it looks like he shaved the back of his head and spray painted his scalp to match his hair color.

I will be adding a greart many spikes in the texture, not much need to add polies for all of those, at least the dissidia model did a good job of that, so i figure i can too ^^

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1187/picture28m.png)


EDIT:

H'okay, i've started texturing, these are the original ff7 eyes, which will be painted over, more of a placeholder. Have mercy, this is the first time i've textured with photoshop.

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8803/picture29ps.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-23 01:12:01
I'm making the model object by object, in the parts required for ff7. they'll eat from the same texture, but thats not a problem
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-23 01:15:03
Timu Sumisu: That is a sexy cloud face, granted I am a raging heterosexual so its O-K. I think you should add a lot of smaller spikes on the back of the head like the crisis core cloud had, they all kinda pointed to the back of his head to form a cone shape. I say this because it looks like he shaved the back of his head and spray painted his scalp to match his hair color.

I will be adding a greart many spikes in the texture, not much need to add polies for all of those, at least the dissidia model did a good job of that, so i figure i can too ^^

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1187/picture28m.png)


EDIT:

H'okay, i've started texturing, these are the original ff7 eyes, which will be painted over, more of a placeholder. Have mercy, this is the first time i've textured with photoshop.

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8803/picture29ps.png)



Umm.. will you use those eyes on the final touching? .. I hope not.... :|
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-23 01:19:15
of course not! silly harruzame

EDIT:

more progress..

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4968/picture31z.png)
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9073/picture32l.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: aaronlite on 2009-09-23 04:16:37
Looking good. : )
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-23 08:08:47
Ara...Silly Me...   :-D

of course not! silly harruzame

EDIT:

more progress..

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4968/picture31z.png)
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9073/picture32l.png)


That's what I'm talking about!... Its really closer to the original but HI Res and Textured too!..

One of the best looking Anime-ish Cloud versions I've seen so far...Hope the whole body compliments it.   8-)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: DeadManInBlack on 2009-09-23 16:54:33
A nice style of texturing that that might look good was cell shading see slayersnext cloud for an example.

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6617.msg105111#msg105111 (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=6617.msg105111#msg105111)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-23 17:19:15
that is the dissidia model and texture, which style i am immitating to some extent. as to the edges, that doubles the poly count, and is rather inneffecient. we'll see how the texture goes as i work on it more.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: DeadManInBlack on 2009-09-23 18:44:25
Best of luck have to say im looking forward to seeing this, even though I think APZ has done a excellent job with his Cloud I much prefer this kind of style.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-24 00:05:02
MOAR! I'm fairly content with the face, if ye have ne other suggestions for it shoot, i'm gonna start working on neck n ears.

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8949/picture36o.png)
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4789/picture37a.png)
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1427/picture38r.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: secondadvent on 2009-09-24 00:18:29
that last one makes cloud look like he is going to rip somebody a new one... those look great  :-).
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: aaronlite on 2009-09-24 00:20:32
maybe make the pupil a tiny bit larger? idk something just seems off bout the pupil. Looks nice though. :D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-24 00:24:38
i made it a lot taller, so that it would pass the top of the eye, but didnt make it a bunch wider. I find it looks fairly intense right now, i may mess with it more.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-24 01:27:35
wow such facial expression!!!
 :-o

....Like he's gonna battle anyone right now!...Scary... :oops:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-24 02:25:03
k i had a real bad time trying to paint up some hair from scratch, largely due to having bad color selection, (only unwrapped one spike to test, nehow) all that got scrapped, and i messed with the vertex paints. These arnt final colors, just playing to see good combos. and to show you guys what the hair could look liek with more color in it. (just wanna show off what i did with it :P)

(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5713/picture41t.png)
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1709/picture42d.png)
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6334/picture43zo.png)
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5254/picture44h.png)

This last picture focuses one on spike i think has the best color for the hair
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2009-09-24 02:37:55
Haha, Clouds a ginger.

I jest.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: aaronlite on 2009-09-24 03:21:48
Hair looks good, besides the color obv. :P

His face looks aged too much or something though, idk. Looks good still though.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-24 03:25:31
I'm kind of going for the oldschool cloud, none of the effeminate, emo bullcrap. i'm talkin back when he was badass, and "not interested". he's 21, older than most FF heroes.

He has a youthful complexion, but angular, rigid features. I could tone it down, but i think it fits, and it needs to be slightly exagerated to read well ingame.

EDIT:
On that note, once i'm finished the head, i'll import just that to see how it feels'works ingame.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: obesebear on 2009-09-24 03:33:04
I'm kind of going for the oldschool cloud, none of the effeminate, emo bullcrap. i'm talkin back when he was badass, and "not interested".
Thank you
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-24 03:50:54
k i had a real bad time trying to paint up some hair from scratch, largely due to having bad color selection, (only unwrapped one spike to test, nehow) all that got scrapped, and i messed with the vertex paints. These arnt final colors

@hermoor
Read the posts
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-24 04:06:40
no... i drew that start to finish

EDIT:

proof!

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6519/picture47i.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-09-24 06:44:54
Looks epic :D
He does look slightly weird though, but it's something i cant put my finger on...
maybe its the eyes... the wrinkles around the bottom and such are a little too thick possibly. see what it looks like when they're thinner?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: aaronlite on 2009-09-24 08:46:47
of course not! silly harruzame

EDIT:

more progress..

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4968/picture31z.png)
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9073/picture32l.png)

I think you should tone the bags like in the post I just quoted. It doesn't look fem either, just makes him not look so old. :P Just suggestion
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-09-24 14:08:51
I think you should tone the bags like in the post I just quoted. It doesn't look fem either, just makes him not look so old. :P Just suggestion
YES! thats the problem, he's too wrinkle-y to be 21 :P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-24 15:25:20
no... i drew that start to finish

EDIT:

proof!

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6519/picture47i.png)

Your new eyes loks like as glass...IMHO :|
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: titeguy3 on 2009-09-24 18:40:34
Cloud's eyes are supposed to have a mild tint of green in them... I see that in the dissidia eyes, but not in yours, I'm afraid..
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-24 18:49:24
the colors i used were directly from the originals ^_^ I may play with the colors a bit but i kinda like em now

EDIT:

more face work (http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6811/picture48v.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-24 19:15:40
I'm kind of going for the oldschool cloud, none of the effeminate, emo bullcrap. i'm talkin back when he was badass, and "not interested".
Thank you

This. Cloud ain't no whinyass bishie :-P

Although I must agree that his hair looks a bit too ginger ATM, and his pupils look like those of a cat :-o
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-24 19:26:46
hermoor.... did you play ff7?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-24 19:33:54
Oh, I've just remembered something else... :lol:

Will you be making the transitions between the different colours in his eyes smoother eventually? ATM they are very distinct blocks of colour that don't look natural.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-24 19:42:24
like this?

(http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/3249/picture52j.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Kudistos Megistos on 2009-09-24 19:53:45
Yeah, that's what I meant :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-24 20:17:58
face is finalized! now have propper highlight on eyes (no longer mirrored) and earing is included (left ear only)

(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4559/picture53.png)

EDIT:
hrmm... hair is started, finally unwrapped it, will post more soon.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2436/picture57y.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: romeo14 on 2009-09-24 21:59:20
im not gonna lie, APZ's cloud is amazing but its not anime style. not to take away from APZ's cloud at all. but if your cloud comes out anywhere near as good as barret in this anime style theres gonna be a serious problem with people having to pic just one lol
i myself am a fan of the anime style :) keep up the good work bud :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-24 23:46:18
ZE HAIR.... ITS SPREADING!!!

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9495/picture59.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: aaronlite on 2009-09-25 00:20:03
Looking good. :P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-25 01:42:50
ZE HAIR.... ITS SPREADING!!!

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9495/picture59.png)
NICE! It's looking really good.  :-)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: squallff8 on 2009-09-25 14:57:29
His pupils in his eyes suppose to be small and have circle form.
I admited that in all Tetsuya Nomura artworks.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: CloudyWolf on 2009-09-25 17:41:24
hi i'm new here.. i've been reading this forum for a while and finally i've decided to make an account..  :-)

@timu: nice work on your own version of cloud!  :-o will you be making a chibi (field model) version of it? i've been waiting for the release of apz freak's but it seems like he's abandoned his project. or maybe he's just too busy..

also, this may be off topic but i noticed your barret model is not showing up on leviathan.. i thought maybe that was because it's custom.. but apz freak's cloud is viewable, do you know why is it so? :? :?  :? i can see him in game, btw.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-25 17:44:47
probably because barret uses a 24b bitmap, stead of apz's 8bit.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: CloudyWolf on 2009-09-25 18:09:34
i see...

how about the chibi field model? will you be making it? how about barret chibi field model?  :-)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Matt2Tees on 2009-09-25 22:48:53
how about the chibi field model? will you be making it? how about barret chibi field model?  :-)

One thing at a time  :wink:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-26 01:26:40
Nearly done the hair ^^


(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5973/picture63m.png)
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6783/picture64.png)
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5826/picture65t.png)

EDIT:

its done!!! least for now, it still needs more work, but its a start.

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9747/picture66.png)
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5774/picture67.png)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7045/picture68u.png)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1286/picture69k.png)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1909/picture70.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: halkun on 2009-09-26 04:08:34
Too orange, Could you yellow that hair up a little?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-26 05:06:14
It must be fun to be Halkun... He just asked requested for the hair to be yellow and presto! Someone does it!  :-P
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: halkun on 2009-09-26 08:14:35
I just made a comment, if you guys jump at my every whim... That would be...

TOTALLY AWESOME!


I DEMAND TIFA FANART WITH CAT EARS! MUHAHAHAHAH!!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-26 11:27:50
Was that Halkun?..hehehe   :lol:


Amazing piece there Timu!!..If you think about it . This version is the closest to the original as far as Cloud Modding is concerned..Keep it up!!

This forum keeps getting better and better...I feel like Jiraiya somehow...  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-09-26 11:54:41
Like this timu:
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5973/picture63m.png) (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/picture63m.png/)
He's going for the Original look, not anything else. just an updated original look. if you look at the original model, and even my avatar, his hair is more orange than yellow. well, at least in the field model anyway.
actually, in the original battle model, it doesi look yellow like that.

hmmm. i dunno, but i do like the orangeness. perhaps i'm the only one, but i really do like it. play around, timu, and see what you think's best.
just one other thing, actually. the hair still looks a little like a blob of clour - not enough hair streaks in it. this does give it a slightly realistic feel, but compare to the dissidia model.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: romeo14 on 2009-09-26 15:34:33
id like to see it somewhere between to orange and yellow. just a little bit of orange in there and it would look sweet. Timu this is looking awesome and the face does look very close to his original look. Hope the body comes out as great.
keep up the good work
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: romeo14 on 2009-09-26 15:51:49
hermoor i think that was a little to much yellow, i think this is about right
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5973/picture63m.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: CloudyWolf on 2009-09-26 16:47:17
i think i like timu's choice of color (the orange one)... if you make it more yellow, he would look like the dissidia cloud not the original cloud..

but i don't know... maybe it's just me...  :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: romeo14 on 2009-09-26 17:15:31
ya i like it the way Timu has it, i just posted that cuz thats as yellow as i think it should go but id rather in my game to have it the way Timu has it with more orangey hair
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-26 18:54:59
UPDATE TIEM!!!1!!lol

I found a hair color i'm fairly happy with, please share your thots on it, even i like or i do not like. I also started the collar, going with  a dark purple for the uniform.

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4403/picture74.png)
(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4120/picture75.png)
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3269/picture76.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: CloudyWolf on 2009-09-26 19:09:03
nice edit on the hair color... there is still a touch of orange! yey!

also, nice choice of color for the collar...  :wink:

keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-26 19:10:54
That is a good mixture between orange and yellow. And damn you are good at textures.
EDIT: Maybe you could lower the saturion a bit...so much colour...ahhh my eyes :wink:
(http://forums.qhimm.com/avatars/FFVII/Cloud.gif)

He's a strong character - he gets strong colored hair!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: romeo14 on 2009-09-26 20:17:07
That is a good mixture between orange and yellow. And damn you are good at textures.
EDIT: Maybe you could lower the saturion a bit...so much colour...ahhh my eyes :wink:
(http://forums.qhimm.com/avatars/FFVII/Cloud.gif)

He's a strong character - he gets strong colored hair!
Timu the hair color is perfect, unless you wanna change id leave like that  :-D
and i also like the color of the collar too. not to purple and not black, a nice happy medium  :-)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-09-26 22:09:46
Ok, requested by Timu, here's some Screenshots of the head ingame.
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/2009-09-26_2243.png)
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/2009-09-26_2244.png)
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/2009-09-26_2248.jpg)
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/2009-09-26_2249.jpg)
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x74/beefpwnage/2009-09-26_2250.jpg)

Yes, i am the worst screenshot-er in the world, so sorry for that. also, i think i made the head kinda a bit too big, i'm not sure. a combination of Biturn and PCreator is a nightmare when it comes to actually doing their jobs, and .3ds after .3ds, i couldnt get the head lined up perfectly with the old one.
Anyway, personally, i think the hair still needs a lot more shading done to it, especially the back. that, and the skin colour is a little too pale. other than that, great job :D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-09-26 23:16:26
It looks good. Hehe his hair stands out... Like that of a SSJ (DBZ). Catch my drift?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-26 23:51:52
not bad neocloud, it is infact too big, it should b quite a bit smaller... can u fix tht kinda thing in kimera? also, its very not done, i'm away of the changes u menetioned n they[ll get done sometime.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: BlitzNCS on 2009-09-27 00:15:19
yea i can fix it up no problem, dont worry.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-27 01:45:35
This is beautiful..Yeah Dark Purple is the way to go!..... Can't wait till you release this!!!!   :lol:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: romeo14 on 2009-09-27 13:56:35
Hermoor the color is a little off but thats prob because the brightness of the whole head has to brought down just a little. I took 2 pics of the original battle model and the color isnt that far off.
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4604/40951538.jpg)
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9693/31592669.jpg)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Myrmedus on 2009-09-27 21:19:01
Nice :) - it's pretty amazing to see FF7 being brought up to better graphical speed :D

I think the models are all generally great, there's only one thing that I would place some critique on, and it's more personal preference than anything else perhaps - it's on Cloud's face.

Generally I think the face is really well done, the one issue I have though is it feels a little too young looking. I know he's 21 but his face looks so innocent in the pictures! If it would be possible, when/if you change the scale of his head perhaps drag his eye brow down over his eyes a slight amount to give him a more intense look and reduce the size of his eyes a slight amount or elongate his nose slightly (great anime-esque way to make a character look older without reducing the anime-look of huge eyes, tiny mouth!)

One last thing: this is going to sound controversial and people may label me a pervert, but whatever: it's nice to see you not copping out on Tifa's 'physique' *cough* like Square did in later games. I'm not a fan-boy per se but it felt like Square started to make all female characters look exactly the same around FF8.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-09-28 02:36:50
And you thought you weren't going to be any good at modeling!  :-D
It looks really great so far, and I find the colors work really well. You managed to make purple look good. :-P And although some people might find the hair needs to be a bit more bleached, I find that a brighter shade goes well with the original ff7 colors (in other words very colorful), if that's what you're aiming for.

Can't wait to see some more progress.  :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-09-28 02:44:42
If going on original artwork, You have done a fantastic job on clouds head. i think it's just a tad to round. But that could very well just be the angle. Kudos to you my friend.

If you're going for the AC/Dissidia style, Hair needs to be lighter haha
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-28 03:44:49
MOAR! modeled up the body, it may look a lil weird. It is however perfectly proportioned to the original, belts n all. I will also model on the SOLDIER logo and the studs around the belt (as seen in the original art)

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/592/picture78e.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: BrokenCrowe (Mendelevium) on 2009-09-28 03:56:59
(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7568/cloudtexturesampletl2.jpg)

Just a little comparison to what your original cloud looked like.. . months ago.. lol..
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-28 04:19:14
oh jeez that was a long time ago, that was more er less a clone of kh1 cloud, made canon trying to emulate what apz had done, but original, so it could be released (his couldnt since it /was/ kh1) alas... he released his, so i saw no reason to continue, and here i am :P

EDIT:

more details on the belt, texture comin sometime :P
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6434/picture80.png)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: CloudyWolf on 2009-09-28 18:00:01
ooh... so you did one battle model and one field model before? and you did not release them?

and now you are making another one? you really like cloud, don't you?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-09-28 18:42:22
Two words: FAN BOY
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4694/avatarcopyotd.png)
Temporary hijack: Two Words: Pathetic Troll.

(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7568/cloudtexturesampletl2.jpg)

Just a little comparison to what your original cloud looked like.. . months ago.. lol..


Granted i could be (and probably am) very wrong, But i that is APZ's draft of his cloud.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-28 21:01:35
those models were made to imitate apz's first cloud model, which was never released. when he released his final model, i saw no reason to continue those. Neither are particularly fit for use ingame.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: FF7Doug on 2009-09-29 00:34:10
Timu, any update on the Tifa model? It's kinda weird with the two new models and one old one. These are great!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Tekkie.X on 2009-09-29 01:10:54
It was offtopic, Halkun was just doing his job.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-29 01:12:09
Timu, any update on the Tifa model? It's kinda weird with the two new models and one old one. These are great!

Tifa will probably get done after this Cloud model is done.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Chocobo_Girl on 2009-09-29 01:57:17
I can't wait to see you texture Tifa if you plan on doing that next.  :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: halkun on 2009-09-29 02:09:45
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Keep the cute non-related posts in non-related. We are tying to have a rational discussion on modeling here, You failed to add anything but a snide comment and so you were moderated...
Insulting a mod does not win you brownie points.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-09-29 03:43:49
Timu...  :-o

Are u planning to release this after you've done Tifa's model? Just like the Barret model of yours?

I would like to update the characters in game so it looks new again..APZ was great..But I'm really going for the Anime version of Cloud's battle Model...
hope you release this soon... :-D

ciao!  :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: CloudyWolf on 2009-09-29 10:29:15
nice work on the body! especially on the belt studs and logo.. so you decided to stick with the original design and not with the dissidia style..  :-o

but i thought you would like to finish the head part first before going to the other parts? or is the head final?

keep it up timu!  :-)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-09-29 12:17:51
I want to model the rest of the body first, as i wanna make sure i can get the entire texture nicely fit into a 1024x1024 texture. doing it part by part is a bit of a gamble, I dont really wanna scale chunks down.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: apz freak on 2009-10-01 07:11:49
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6434/picture80.png)

Whoah there buddy! Trying to eclipse me huh?  :wink: I've been without computer for a few weeks and now I see this :lol:

Looking good there man, keep it up i wanna see more!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: CloudyWolf on 2009-10-01 11:36:41
wow! you're back apz!

how's your chibi cloud going?  :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-10-02 04:07:28
Yes... I did it too, I made a buster sword. I'm all hyped, cuz i've suddenly gotten a knack for textures, so i'm taking a whack at things i know (cloud, buster sword etc). so here ya go, I'll have it ready for game very soon!

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7892/picture83s.png)
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6332/picture84.png)

655 tris, 512x1024 texture
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: halkun on 2009-10-02 04:18:01
Not bad. The buster sword is a really good "beginner model" because of is simple form. Nice to see you learning textures from it.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-10-02 04:24:44
Not bad. The buster sword is a really good "beginner model" because of is simple form. Nice to see you learning textures from it.

thanks! I mainly wanted to practice something metal, as I've been asked to model/texture/design for a space action game, mostly in the realm of ships, but dont worry, Many ff models will still come from my posts ^^
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Harruzame on 2009-10-02 09:20:20
I was waiting for ya to say " I'm gonna release this..someday "

But hey, wishful thinking...  :wink:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: death_gigas on 2009-10-26 06:07:14
how can i use them?.....
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-10-26 06:28:39
le sigh
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: obesebear on 2009-10-26 16:09:59
le sigh
I've decided to just ignore him altogether.  Sure it's annoying seeing "unread posts" only to find it's the same guy requesting help, but apparently nothing will be done about it.  So I give.

Billy Jean/Death Gigas/Whatever you decide to change your name to next, You win.  Your annoying persistence is more than I care to deal with.   However, just to answer all future questions you will post... the answer is no. 
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-10-26 18:54:45
le sigh
I've decided to just ignore him altogether.  Sure it's annoying seeing "unread posts" only to find it's the same guy requesting help, but apparently nothing will be done about it.  So I give.

Billy Jean/Death Gigas/Whatever you decide to change your name to next, You win.  Your annoying persistence is more than I care to deal with.   However, just to answer all future questions you will post... the answer is no. 

le LOL
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Tsetra on 2009-11-01 00:12:21
Unbelievable, I was starting to think it was somehow impossible for modelers to create an original style buster sword accurately and with the correct hole location. If I owned the entire internet, I would give it to you. Good job.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-11-05 17:49:35
Awesome job on the buster sword, though it looks fairly cell-shaded (not sure if you intended it as such) But otherwise FANTASTIC.

I do like how millenia added the battle damage though, i think it would add some character to it, after it. the buster sword has seen A LOT of use.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-11-05 20:03:06
mostly through ff7, it had no use until zack started with it, and he had it for a short time until cloud had it.. which is right before ff7.... unless i mixed up my timeline in CC and zack had it for a lawn tiem
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: secondadvent on 2009-11-05 20:22:47
yeah but zach fought both sephy and genesis with the buster sword, along with whatever else he decided to smack away at (he wasn't as careful with it as angeal was >_>), so it was bound to have taken some damage by the time cloud got it... maybe not a ton, but it would still have taken a beating.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-11-05 20:49:48
I'm just a sucker for neat effects like that haha. If i could texture worth a damn i would add a bunch of unique things like that to anything i made :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-11-05 20:50:28
I'm just a sucker for neat effects like that haha. If i could texture worth a damn i would add a bunch of unique things like that to anything i made :-D

Maybe you should learn how to texture
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-11-05 20:58:07
I am, i'm failing. But i am. thats what i spend most my time doing :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-11-05 21:28:45
I plan to start soon. Perhaps I'll have Timu help me out. He did say he didn't mind teaching me a while back.  :roll:
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: sl1982 on 2009-11-05 22:15:51
I plan to start soon. Perhaps I'll have Timu help me out. He did say he didn't mind teaching me a while back.  :roll:

He needs to finish some stuff for me first *cough*
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: drfeelgud88 on 2009-11-05 23:27:31
I plan to start soon. Perhaps I'll have Timu help me out. He did say he didn't mind teaching me a while back.  :roll:

He needs to finish some stuff for me first *cough*
Lol. Don't worry. It won't be any time soon. Maybe Winter break or if that doesn't work out well for me, Summer, lol.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: ae2011 on 2009-11-08 20:20:21
So I have the advent children mod beta installed...

I unpacked battle.lgp after ac mod and replaced with the new Barret files. Barret's battle animation still runs forward on long range weapons. Is there anything I can do about this? Because I would love to keep the other characters' models and still be able to use timu's Barret.

Any help is greatly appreciated
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-11-08 20:22:07
for each set of barrets models, replace the files ending with aa with the originals
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: ae2011 on 2009-11-08 23:18:34
I assume you meant the original installation files from battle.lgp: sbaa, scaa, sdaa, seaa

I tried this on two computers, both running vista

ac mod + your barret model:

-crash at end of battle
-also crash at beginning of battle when using gatling gun
-runs up, melee attacks & shoots (no long range)
-using original installation files sbaa, scaa, sdaa, seaa = same results


ac mod without your barret model using original installation files sbaa, scaa, sdaa, seaa:

-crash at end of battle
-also crash at begining of battle when using gatling gun
-when using all other weapons, most of barret's model is solid white
-runs up, melee attacks & shoots (no long range)

your barret model alone:

-everything works


Any other ideas?

There must be some other file in battle.lgp that is affecting this animation... and also making the game crash for that matter. The only other idea I had was to try each character model one at a time using originals for everything else. How can I find out which files in battle.lgp are associated with each character/items/weapons/enemies?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-11-08 23:23:44
then there is a problem with the ac mod... cant help ya there
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: ae2011 on 2009-11-08 23:44:37
that's fine, i figured that much. Is there a forum somewhere with a list of what models go with which files in battle.lgp?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-11-08 23:47:44
its stickied in this forum actually. Try removing all of barrets files bfeore installing mine... I rmmbr having all those problems when testing and fixing me release.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: ae2011 on 2009-11-09 17:42:19
That definitely worked! Deleting files "sb" through "se" from ac mod's battle.lgp, replacing them with the original installation's files, then installing your barret model fixed everything. All ac mod's character models along with your barret having no animation problems whatsoever. Thank you so much for your help!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2009-11-09 17:43:36
^^ glad it works
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Hellbringer616 on 2009-12-26 23:13:43
Nerolization!!!

Timu can you send me the original UV map of the buster sword please? tried doing the shirt one you send me.. and i failed :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Jaitsu on 2009-12-30 20:24:57
has anything but the barret been released??? if so please lemme know
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Cronus on 2010-01-27 12:29:23
Can anyone help me? Whenever I use this, barret's texture turns black. But before I asked someone to reformat this computer (due to a virus attack), this works perfectly. HELP ANYONE?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2010-01-27 13:58:36
install aali's driver, the problem came up earlier in the thread.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Cronus on 2010-01-28 10:29:36
install aali's driver, the problem came up earlier in the thread.

I did I just dont know if I'm using it right. I dont think I am I mean.. I dont see any difference! All I did was, I extracted the files into my FF7 Folder where ff7.exe is located. Then I ran the .reg file the one without the 64 Vista. And I pressed okay. And then I open the game and nothing. And no, I didn't open the config after everything.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2010-01-28 15:47:16
is your game patched to version 1.02?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: AlbusJC on 2010-01-28 16:19:42
Timu Sumisu what about your models of tifa aerith and the rest of party? are you going to continue the proyect and release them?  :-D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2010-01-28 16:24:59
On an interesting note, Xenobond has taken up my tifa model, and is improving it, and will eventually texture it, so it /will/ get done eventually :P

Right now i'm in the process of preparing an art portfolio for university, and also job hunting, and filling the rest of my time learning autodesk maya, so I'm pretty busy right now, at some point when things lighten up or i just get bored you'll probably see my work popping up again.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: AlbusJC on 2010-01-28 16:31:42
understood.  :-) I'm glad to know that this proyect still alive.  :-D by the way, those models are awesome! good work!
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Cloud1000 on 2010-03-25 14:15:19
Sorry to revive old thread, but I was wondering is your barret model for both field and battle? Or just battle?

If it is just battle is there a way I can make it on field too?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: titeguy3 on 2010-03-25 14:25:39
Sorry to revive old thread, but I was wondering is your barret model for both field and battle? Or just battle?

If it is just battle is there a way I can make it on field too?
The Barret model only works in battle.lgp. You can probably learn to convert it yourself after reading this (30 page) thread (http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=4045.0) (if there's a tutorial about it somewhere on these forums, I don't know about it), but all of the high res battle models will eventually be made into field models by the original creators, so it's best to just wait for that.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: obesebear on 2010-03-25 17:20:40
Converting battle to field and vice versa just involves exporting the model as a .3DS using biturn and then reimporting it like you would any other model.  

Including resizing and adjusting for animations, it may take you 30 minutes tops.

If Timu doesn't care, I can release the field model version... but unless I'm mistaken he and Millenia were planning to revamp both Barret's model and texture.


Alternatively, it may even be possible to simply rename the individual part files into their corresponding field .p files, though I've never tried.   But then I don't think lighting will effect them either
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Cloud1000 on 2010-03-25 17:34:22
Converting battle to field and vice versa just involves exporting the model as a .3DS using biturn and then reimporting it like you would any other model.  

Including resizing and adjusting for animations, it may take you 30 minutes tops.

If Timu doesn't care, I can release the field model version... but unless I'm mistaken he and Millenia were planning to revamp both Barret's model and texture.


Alternatively, it may even be possible to simply rename the individual part files into their corresponding field .p files, though I've never tried.   But then I don't think lighting will effect them either

cool I wish I could be so skilled with kimera.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: obesebear on 2010-03-25 17:40:46
I already know what it's about, and no.  Unless Timu and Millenia are ok with it.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2010-03-26 00:30:34
Barret will have a revamp sometime soon, field included, adjusting the texture to be more "toony", along with his proportions. be patient :D
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Aurangzeb56 on 2010-05-01 18:02:49
so any updates guys or models tht have been done?? ^^"
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-03 14:44:01
hmm.. just wanted to ask but is the bone animation of barret in your model somewhat messed up when opened in kimera?? ???
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2010-05-03 15:23:19
so any updates guys or models tht have been done?? ^^"

My work can usually be found in the Team Avalanche forum, look there, and I suggest you stop digging up old threads, or you risk getting punishment.

hmm.. just wanted to ask but is the bone animation of barret in your model somewhat messed up when opened in kimera?? ???

I honestly havnt checked it for ages. AFAIK, it was fine, I've seen it in use and it animates correctly.
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: nikfrozty on 2010-05-03 15:30:17
Oh.. because when I open your barret battle model the head is below the body and feet are at the side of the body etc.. Sorry for disturbing you but I want to make my own models by taking a look at the good ones like yours. :)
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2010-05-03 16:05:20
focus on how i made the mesh, and the order of the polygons. Where the peices are floating around is just an artifact of the program
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: ryanphlp2002 on 2010-06-27 00:41:07
Hi Guys, any sign of a Tifa (or any of the other main characters) release yet< very happy with APZ's Cloud & Team Avalanche's Barret but those just highlight how bad the others look! Tifa sounded near ready a while ago, any updates on any of the main party?
Title: Re: Timu Sumisu's WIP/Release thread. BARRET RELEASED!!! 07/09/09
Post by: Timu Sumisu on 2010-06-27 01:22:25
tifa is in progress by xenobond, as to the rest of the cast, they will come about when they do :P.

As to this thread, it is dated and no longer necessary, other than for info purposes.

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