Author Topic: Final Fantasy 8 Translating (Read 28151 times)

YarYar · « **on:** 2003-10-11 17:07:28 »

Hi! I'm a hungarian guy who want to translate the FF8 to hungarian language. I have a question. How can I edit the FF8's Battle Texts, Menus, Tutorials, etc.? With Qhimm's Garden program I can edit the field text data but I want to translate the whole game. Please help!

Caddberry · « **Reply #1 on:** 2003-10-11 18:25:21 »

To the best of my understanding Garden was somewhat incomplete... It worked and all, but had bugs.. consider it like an alpha release.. I didnt think that it would edit all that stuff.. I thought it was just for the field text...

YarYar · « **Reply #2 on:** 2003-10-11 18:55:44 »

Yes, the Garden is incomplete. But there is no other way to translate the battle texts and the others?

DeadLajik · « **Reply #3 on:** 2003-10-11 23:13:15 »

If I recall correctly the text inside the Ff8 data files jumps around a lot. Also, does Hungarian use special characters ? These may not be supported.

Ofcourse you can translate it.. but its going to require a lot of work with a hex editor.

YarYar · « **Reply #4 on:** 2003-10-12 07:36:35 »

Except the "Å" the FF8 support all the hungarian character. Which file contains the texts? If I must make with hexedtior, I make with that.

And another question. How can I decompress-edit-compress the background images of the FF8 if I want to redraw them.

mav · « **Reply #5 on:** 2003-10-12 09:43:58 »

Here, in poland we're trying to translate FF8 too, but it's not our (FF7PL) team

. AFAIK they know how to translate menu and few other things. They've enhanced Garden too. Maybe I can catch their project coordinator's email, and contact him with you

YarYar · « **Reply #6 on:** 2003-10-12 11:55:50 »

Oh, man! Please make it! I need that Garden

The hungarian peoples will be very happy and your name goes to the FF8 Hungarian Translator Team's Credits list.

If you don't understand what I want to say, it's because i don't speak english very vell. Sorry!

mav · « **Reply #7 on:** 2003-10-12 13:55:32 »

Me too

. But I have to disappoint you. The only change they made this far to Garden is that now it's extracting all files from game. And still they don't know how to import translated files (eg. Menu) to game.

YarYar · « **Reply #8 on:** 2003-10-12 14:46:45 »

No problem. I know few hungarian programmers who very clever. Perhaps we could make it. Two cleverer than one. How can I get it?

mav · « **Reply #9 on:** 2003-10-14 15:26:47 »

Finally

. I wrote a program to manage archives in FF8. It can extract and import files to them. Link Here. I translated it to English, but leaved Help menu in Polish, cause I don't have time now

. Hope this will help you translate the game ^^.

YarYar · « **Reply #10 on:** 2003-10-14 16:36:48 »

You'r the best, man! Very thanks and of course your name goes to the credits list. At Saturday i refresh my page and write your name. Then I write here the link if you want to visit it. But it's hungarian.

YarYar · « **Reply #11 on:** 2003-10-14 17:11:55 »

I tried out your program. It's working! BUT. I can decompress the data files, but i can't edit them. The files full of incomprehensible letter. I can't find the text anywhere. Where is it and how can i edit them?

Here is a picture from the hungarian version. It's now 60% complete (60% of the field text data). If you want to see it.

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mav · « **Reply #12 on:** 2003-10-14 18:54:47 »

Great job man! Glad I could help

. As for the dialogs... They're of course in field.fs. There are sereral (900) archives in it, and in them, you can find .msd files. In this files, you can see some text, but it's completely unreadable. It's because small characters are "shifted" by 2 letters (for eg. a means c), and big characters are shifted by 5 letters back (X means T). Maybe I'll write a program for editing dialogs from single files if I'll find a while or two

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YarYar · « **Reply #13 on:** 2003-10-14 19:52:37 »

The upper translation made with the Garden. But if my understanding good, the battle texts and the menus are unreadable, too. Why the Squaresoft hide the datas?

mav · « **Reply #14 on:** 2003-10-14 20:11:59 »

I don't now, I'm new to FF8

. You have to check that

. If I'll find more time, I'll search for that

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Edit: Oh, forgot to add: In FF7 menu texts were in .exe file. Try to search for them there

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YarYar · « **Reply #15 on:** 2003-10-15 14:12:14 »

Ok, I'll try. And thanks for the so much help! Please inform me if you find something.

Srethron Askvelhtnod · « **Reply #16 on:** 2003-10-16 02:08:38 »

IIRC, the Menu text is all in kernel2.bin. The file is LZS compressed. However, you can already edit all of it with Cosmo--just use the "Internal Editor" tool.

M4v3R: Very cool. I going to have to check out this new FF8 archive editor of yours.

mav · « **Reply #17 on:** 2003-10-16 06:41:57 »

Srethron: You're talking about FF7 and we're talking about FF8

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BTW, my program has a bug - if you replace a file that is compressed, it'll ruin all files after it. I've repaired it, and here it is:
Link
I still didn't tested it in-game, I've only checked if Eight is able to extract all files from archive I changed.

Srethron Askvelhtnod · « **Reply #18 on:** 2003-10-17 00:16:40 »

Oops. Sorry.

Quote

my program has a bug

Could be why it was corrupting my install every time.

I'll try the new version.

mav · « **Reply #19 on:** 2003-10-17 06:26:42 »

If you have problems then tell me, ok ?

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YarYar · « **Reply #20 on:** 2003-10-17 14:22:33 »

M4V3R: I viewed the .exe file and found some readable word but the menus not there (or I not found it). And another request. I I finished off the FF8, will you help me out in the FF7 translating, too?[/b]

mav · « **Reply #21 on:** 2003-10-17 17:51:00 »

Can you paste here some of this text in exe ?

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And of course, I can help you with FF7, it's no problem

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YarYar · « **Reply #22 on:** 2003-10-17 18:27:59 »

This from the top of the file:

> ? O S T ^ h v w x Âˆ â€œ Ë‡ Â¤ Ë Ä¾ Ã‚ Å˜ =FbktyÅ¡Å»Ä…ÃŽÄƒË™*-@Ë™Ë™btitle.ovl kernel.bin sysfnt.tdw icon.tim namedic.bin Ã¼ÄPÅ±4 ÃœÂ°4 â‚¬ â‚¬Ë™ Ë™â‚¬ â‚¬ y:\battle\work\btlmusic\btlwave.dat y:\battle\work\btlmusic\btlmusic.dat Dec 1 1999 13:55:42 %x SAVEDATA SAVEDATA SAVEDATA OFF ON OK OK OK OK R2 INIT R1 PC SAVE L3 PAST L2 DEBUG L1 PC LOAD SCENE %3d TIME %3d RATE100 %s AP*10 %s EXP*10 %s DOGOUT %s ODIN %s FORMATION %s WITCH %s X_ITEM %s X_MAGIC %s X_GF %s X_DRAW %s X_COMMAND %s X_PINCH %s X_RESURRECT %s CHOCOBO %s CHOCOBO LEVEL %3d CHOCOBO WAZA %3d MOGURI %s RANNYU1 %s RANNYU2 %s RANNYU3 %s PET5 %s PET6 %s PET7 %s PINCH %s GILGAMESH %s SQUALL FB %s scene music wave namedic start party autoload pinch bg_debug readwait vibration print bdprint triple double rate logic rnddamage damage limit kernel icon tdw sound command on off all auto manual normal rftpath rftpath1 logpath menupath scenefile init $dummy1 $ $dummy2 kernel.bin \ff8\data\batdata \\GORO\ff8\master2_1_99\ff8btl\ff8\battle\work\batdata scene.out init.out sysfnt.tdw icon.tim y:\battle\work\btlmusic\btlmusic.dat y:\battle\work\btlmusic\btlwave.dat namedic.bin harata.cnf \ff8\data\batdata scene.out

This from the center of the file:
Keyboard
1. "Select" %i
2. "Exit" %i
3. "Misc" %i
4. "Menu" %i
5. "Toggle" %i
6. "Trigger" %i
7. "RotLt" %i
8. "RotRt" %i
9. "Start" %i
10. "Select" %i
11. "Up" %i
12. "Down" %i
13. "Left" %i
14. "Right" %i
Joystick
1. "Select" %i
2. "Exit" %i
3. "Misc" %i
4. "Menu" %i
5. "Toggle" %i
6. "Trigger" %i
7. "RotLt" %i
8. "RotRt" %i
9. "Start" %i
10. "Select" %i
11. "Up" %i
12. "Down" %i
13. "Left" %i
14. "Right" %i

Codes

NONE %s %i
\MENU\ %sicon.tim c:%s Å™Å¼Å¡ÅLâ€¡7 Â C HC â‚¬?Iâ€™d? Â C bC C C â‚¬? â‚¬? C C D Ä‘C @ @ â‚¬A Â C HC 6â€W?Iâ€™d? Å”C bC C C â‚¬? â‚¬? C C D Ä‘C UUÅ? @ â‚¬AÅ•]Â¸ Å” Å» Ã– Å˜ Å® Ãš Å° Ãœ Ã Å¢ ÃŸ Å• Ã¡ Ã¢ Äƒ Ã¤ Äº !"#$%&'()*+012345678 vibrate.vib C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkbtl\asm_tkbtl.cpp icon.sp1 vibrate.vib C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\psmescon\asm_psmescon.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\psmescon\asm_psmescon.cpp packcode.bin C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tklib\asm_tklib.cpp mngrphd.bin face.sp2 C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp magsort.bin mwepon.bin mmag.bin mthomas.bin areames.dc2 mmagic.bin mitem.bin areames.dc1 mmag2.bin cyocobo.bin m000.bin m001.bin m002.bin m003.bin m004.bin m000.msg m001.msg m002.msg m003.msg m004.msg mitem.bin pet_exp.bin pet_exp.msg shop.bin price.bin mitem.bin mwepon.bin mwepon.msg mmag.bin cardanm.sp2 mtmag.bin C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\eng\tkmenu\asm_tkmenu.cpp Reset Game Quit Game Ë™Ë™Ë™Ë™Ë™Ë™Ë™Ë™ Å•@ â‚¬AB'Â°B:PCNxCSÅ”C\ â‚¬ â‚¬ Å• â‚¬Å• â‚¬Å• menumain.ovl menucfg.ovl menupty.ovl menusts.ovl menuabl.ovl menushop.ovl menuext.ovl menuitem.ovl menumgc.ovl menugf.ovl menujnc2.ovl menusav.ovl menucrd.ovl menututo.ovl menutmag.ovl menutips.ovl menutest.ovl mngrp.bin init.out mngrp.bin Å£â€¢;Ä‘:9^.Å±9Å¡Å¡Å¡9Å‚(:â€“ n:F Åš:Å¡Å¡Å¡:Ë™Ë™ :Ä‘::^.Å±:Å¡Å¡Å¡:Ë™Ë™ :â€“ n:F Åš:Å¡Å¡Å¡: â‚¬Å˜ â‚¬Å˜ C:\FF8\Menu\katano\menu_vram.cpp C:\FF8\Menu\katano\menu_vram.cpp \MENU\ %smag15.tim %smag16.tim %smag17.tim %smag18.tim %smag19.tim %spad0000.tim c:%s %spad0001.tim c:%s %spad0100.tim c:%s %spad0101.tim c:%s %spad0200.tim c:%s %spad0201.tim c:%s %smc00.tim %smc01.tim %smc02.tim %smc03.tim %smc04.tim %smc05.tim %smc06.tim %smc07.tim %smc08.tim %smc09.tim %sstart00.tim c:%s %sstart01.tim c:%s %sface1.tim C:\FF8\Menu\katano\menu_vram.cpp %shires\Face_b00.tim c:%s %shires\Face_b01.tim c:%s %sface2.tim C:\FF8\Menu\katano\menu_vram.cpp %shires\Gf_big00.tim c:%s %shires\Gf_big01.tim c:%s %smag00.tim %smag01.tim %smag02.tim %smag03.tim %smag04.tim %smag05.tim %smag06.tim %smag07.tim %smag08.tim %smag09.tim %smagita.tim %smag10.tim %smag11.tim %smag12.tim %smag13.tim %smag14.tim c:%s ÄÃ¢ÄCÃ¢ÄÃ¢ÄÃ¢ÄCÃ¢Ë› Ä˜Å¡; Ã¡Å‘â‚¬â€“Â˜ @B Â â€ ' Ä d
0123456789ABCDEF )&'($ #%A_[\]lmnoq C:\FF8\tools\menutools.cpp rb C:\FF8\tools\menutools.cpp wb ******Can't Open File for writing
******Error writing
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I hope it'll be engough

mav · « **Reply #23 on:** 2003-10-18 07:30:07 »

So menu texts aren't here, and this keyboard... You can check that if you change some of these texts - will it change in game in controls menu ?
Some text (there are 17Kb's of it) can be found in .msg files within menu archive. They're encoded with the same method as dialogs. I can read there text's like:
"Silences Echo Screen", "Thundaras Dynamo Stone", "G2Returners Dragon Fang", "refines into ..." or "Reverse Revive party member from KO". But still I can't find words "Junction", "Item" and others from menu...

Edit: Found it! It's in mngrp.bin from menu archive. Encoded with same method. I can read there "Item Item Menu Magic Magic Menu GF Guardian Force Menu" and other

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YarYar · « **Reply #24 on:** 2003-10-18 15:19:02 »

Thanks! There's no a program what make the encode instead of me? It's a hard work.