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I vaguely remember that someone at Zophar has a conviction for possession of kiddie porn. Didn't someone at RHDN get busted too?
I ask because I'm curious how prevalent this phenomena is.
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honestly wouldn't surprise me if it was less legit child pornography and more loli hentai
either way it's screwed up though
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No I mean legit kiddie porn, not loli (although there isn't much of a difference, both are for perverts)
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Zophar...that takes me back. :)
It's not that all hackers/pirates/emulation users are pedos. Like all occupations, there are people with all kinds of interests and "skeletons in their closets". Not all gun owners are murderers and not all hackers are doing anything illegal.
Actual pedos are probably just as prevalent in the emulation community as any other community. It's hard to "make" and distribute without attracting attention. Loli stuff isn't illegal in some countries.
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It's probably more interesting to check out people who are in a position of trust. Certainly the worst abusers of power will seek to gain such a position. This has happened a lot with priests and even doctors. Look up Harold Shipman.
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We don't even know how much people out there are paedo. As far as homosexuals are now accepted by society still some are slandered, in pedophilia nothing changed, it's heavy taboo and negative talk. Society thinks pedos are perverted predators raping and killing children. Many of them are living a happy life with adult spouse and had never touched any children in inappropriate way, yet still they can't say who they are. There aren't many statistics about paedos because everyone is hiding.
@DLPB
I heard also that someone from Clinton's were having a "cheesy pizza" business. 8)
EDIT: https://www.google.pl/amp/yournewswire.com/fbi-clinton-pedophile-ring-true/amp/
:D
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Yup! They are as bad as they come.
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I ask because I'm curious how prevalent this phenomena is.
Pedophilia stems beyond the hacking community if that is what you are asking. Pedos exist everywhere, including communities that you are likely involved with. Sadly it is only the ones who get caught that make you realize this fact. I mean, just look at Jared from Subway, the most unsuspecting guy with the most innocuous occupation.
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I think it's not so much that it's prevalent in emulation and hacking as it is people like us spend more time in those communities, and therefore are more likely to hear about it when it happens in those communities, because those are people we know of or in some cases even know. When someone on our radars is convicted of something like this, obviously it's going to stand out to us more than if someone we've never heard of is convicted of the same exact crime. Conversely, people who are interested in sports and athletics are more likely to know if a sports star or coach is convicted, etc.
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@DLPB
I heard also that someone from Clinton's were having a "cheesy pizza" business. 8)
EDIT: https://www.google.pl/amp/yournewswire.com/fbi-clinton-pedophile-ring-true/amp/
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Except there's absolutely no evidence, and the concept requires way to much conjecture for it to get off the ground.
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There's plenty of evidence that something very wrong was going on. It's dodgy at the least. But, hey, ho... I doubt anything will be done about it or even investigated properly. When you can get away with blowing Libya to bits, I think a bit of "pizza" will be ignored. ;D
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There's plenty of evidence that something very wrong was going on. It's dodgy at the least. But, hey, ho... I doubt anything will be done about it or even investigated properly. When you can get away with blowing Libya to bits, I think a bit of "pizza" will be ignored. ;D
You're mixing up conjecture and evidence. See, when someone goes "this person knows these people, and they all meet here" that's called conjecture. When someone provides a physical object or someone's testimony, that corroborates all or some of it; that's called evidence. Literally 100% of this is conjecture with 0 evidence of anything dodgy.
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I'm sorry, but I and many others disagree. It isn't normal for that sort of code word discussion to be had about something innocent or benign. Not normal at all. Drug dealers /organized criminals are the only other group I know that use this sort of tactic. I'm not suggesting it was to do with a paedo ring or something - but I am suggesting it probably wasn't legal or otherwise acceptable.
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Get out while you still can
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I'm sorry, but I and many others disagree. It isn't normal for that sort of code word discussion to be had about something innocent or benign. Not normal at all. Drug dealers /organized criminals are the only other group I know that use this sort of tactic. I'm not suggesting it was to do with a paedo ring or something - but I am suggesting it probably wasn't legal or otherwise acceptable.
You, and many others disagreeing doesn't make it fact though. Not normal != nefarious. Again, you're mixing up conjecture and evidence.
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And you have decided there is nothing in it and so we're all supposed to accept your opinion as fact. Not happening. Speaking in code in that way is very odd and needs investigating properly.
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And you have decided there is nothing in it and so we're all supposed to accept your opinion as fact. Not happening. Speaking in code in that way is very odd and needs investigating properly.
No, it's not that I've decided there's nothing in it. It's just that there's nothing that warrants a search. Speaking in code is simply not enough to infer that anything nefarious is going on. You can bitch and moan about how evil the Clinton family is all goddamn day, but that doesn't make it so (not that I'd particularly argue that point, but a lot of people, yourself included, seem to have some sort of vendetta against them, and take it to an extreme where they can't take a shit without it being the biggest disgrace in the history of time. I find it even stranger that you feel so strongly about these issues, given that you have absolutely no vested interest in American politics). There's literally no evidence of anything illegal going on. There is absolutely nothing that warrants investigation from a legal perspective, and honestly, that is the only perspective that should be taken in this matter. Any other perspective comes to conclusions through the use of nothing more than conjecture; and even if there WERE a pedo ring (as ridiculous an idea as that is), there simply isn't enough evidence to warrant any sort of investigation that would yield any results. You can argue it's shady as fuck, and I won't even argue you're wrong; but the ideas that there is a pedo ring (or some other nefarious meeting) and the idea that whatever is going on must be investigated are ridiculous and have no footing in reality.
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EDIT: https://www.google.pl/amp/yournewswire.com/fbi-clinton-pedophile-ring-true/amp/
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Tabloid level journalism at its "best". The sources are anonymous FBI agents (as in not confirmed to actually BE an agent), 4Chan and Reddit. They're basing their entire article on unconfirmable reports and presenting it as fact. It only serves to harden an already biased audience even if it is true. The entire idea hinges on people's inability to think critically about the source of information they are presented. The Internet contains an uncountable amount of "fictional truths" that people just believe because they "read it somewhere". That is why some idiots don't vaccinate their children and we have a surge of easily preventable polio outbreaks.
The FBI wouldn't "hush it up" that a presidential candidate is involved in a pedophilia trafficking ring. That thinking preys upon people's desire to see politicians or any authority figure as corrupt and indicative of some conspiracy against them or use it as an excuse to vilify an individual or group.
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Tabloid level journalism at its "best". The sources are anonymous FBI agents (as in not confirmed to actually BE an agent), 4Chan and Reddit. They're basing their entire article on unconfirmable reports and presenting it as fact. It only serves to harden an already biased audience even if it is true. The entire idea hinges on people's inability to think critically about the source of information they are presented. The Internet contains an uncountable amount of "fictional truths" that people just believe because they "read it somewhere". That is why some idiots don't vaccinate their children and we have a surge of easily preventable polio outbreaks.
The FBI wouldn't "hush it up" that a presidential candidate is involved in a pedophilia trafficking ring. That thinking preys upon people's desire to see politicians or any authority figure as corrupt and indicative of some conspiracy against them or use it as an excuse to vilify an individual or group.
DING DING DING!!! CONGRATULATIONS! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!
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They are speaking pedophiliac code words, and there is plenty of circumstancial evidence surrounding this. Then there is hard indisputable evidence that they are openly OPENLY stating that they are engaging in spirit cooking and satanic practices.
How far the west has fallen when people like you literally defend pedophilia. They are normalizing evil in this world. When I was younger I thought liberal minded people just saw things differently, then I grew wiser and thought maybe they are just gullible or ill informed. Now I've come to see that Liberalism is a religion, a cult religion, it's practices are dogmatic, it's leaders invoke divine right and are unquestionable and infallible. We are told that we live in a democracy but the country was setup as a republic and almost all of the distinctions between republic and democracy have been annihilated by the powers in control, all of the safeguards on uncontrolled power.
We are told we live in a free country but with each passing year our freedoms are eroded away, gun rights are restricted, freedom of speech has always meant freedom of political speech but they used the case of Schneck vs United States to whittle away free speech and freedom of association. They start with something completely reasonable that you can't yell fire in a theater when there is no fire, to begin the slow whittling away of free speech. But free speech was always about protecting speech of a political nature, everyone, EVERYONE knew this. The whole case was a farce as the government continually grabs more and more financial and bureaucratic power and slowly chips our freedoms away. Now they talk about hate speech. Why are they afraid of such speech? Because it has the potential to lead to rebellion, and the new aristocracy of bankers and their pets are afraid of losing their status as leeches of the world, creating nothing yet consuming everything and everyone.
In the age of the internet people have no right to be uninformed or claim ignorance, many of them are quite frankly evil. It's a new Satanic religion that has grown up in the west in the aftermath of two world wars fought primarily for the benefit of the international cabal. A demoralized and controlled society that has completely given up on God and God has therefore given up on them. All you have to do is look at Roe vs Wade, every justice who participated in that decision or has come afterword admitted there is nothing in the constitution that guarantees a right to abortion, in fact the opposite is true it guarantees a right to not have your life deprived without due process. They essentially admit they have shit all over and used the constitution as a toilet rag to spread their satanic beliefs. The fact that people in general and Christians especially haven't revolted yet attests to their power to control people through fear, money, the media, and manipulation. The exact same way President Shinra and then Rufus controlled people. When money doesn't work, just use fear. Or as the Romans said, bread and circuses for the plebs and when that doesn't work threats of violence or actual violence. But the bread and circuses almost always work right up until the end, when they day of the rope comes for all of you who have been shitting up and shitting on this world. It always comes eventually.
Some say it's been going on since WW1, this insanity, but its roots go back further. As Karl Marx said, capitalism was the necessary weakening of the state and people to usher in the insanity of Communism. Capitalism introduced the weakness to the immune system of the west, and Communism is the virus that ravages it.
DLPB you should know:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aeQ3DmKU7A
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The FBI wouldn't "hush it up" that a presidential candidate is involved in a pedophilia trafficking ring.
I was about to ask if you have any conception of the history of things the FBI has hushed up, or any conception of the corrupt world we live in where people with lots of power and money are able to silence large amounts of people by threatening their job security or families.
I find it odd that there are people who enjoy ff7 when large parts of the story are very traditional and quintessentially against Capitalism and Communism. The war between Wutai and Midgar, the comments of the villagers in Kalm, the history of Corel and so many other details. Kinda reminds me of people who hate Christianity and yet love the Chronicles of Narnia or Lord of the Rings. I mean are they that dense you don't even need to read Tolkien's letters or listen to C.S' Lewis radio show to see he is basically recreating the Christian story that their entire mythos and story telling revolve around those beliefs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ds1fmgB3g4&t
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In the age of the internet people have no right to be uninformed or claim ignorance, many of them are quite frankly evil.
Spot on.
Also pretty funny you should mention CoN and LotR v Christianity. Covarr and I had this convo last night :P
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Spot on.
Also pretty funny you should mention CoN and LotR v Christianity. Covarr and I had this convo last night :P
I love them both, I think they helped me move away from atheism when I was feeling pretty down and like there couldn't possibly be a God. Of course I'm not claiming to even be a good person but that doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to be good people, that we don't inherently and intrinsically know right from and wrong. People simply don't want to hear the truth because it shatters their illusions, illusions are lies that they have built up, and based their existence around. The father of lies is the devil.
As Tolkien said in the video where he converted Lewis away from atheism/agnosticism:
"Oh Jack, myths are not lies. In fact they are the very opposite of a lie. Myths convey the essential truth. The primal reality of life itself.....Well you see we have been duped into using the word myth as being synonymous with a lie, because we have been duped into accepting the first real lie of materialism....that is the hideous claim that there is no supernatural order to the universe. The materialists have imprisoned us in a world of mere matter. Of physical facts divorced from and devoid of metaphysical truth. Well I say that they are lying. I say that they are the ones who have come up with a false myth. Their world doesn't exist it's merely a figment of their imagination. Well fine, however there is a problem, the problem is that they've convinced us that it is true. 3 dimensions, 5 senses, 4 walls!....The 4 walls of materialism are the 4 walls of a prison! The four walls of materialism are the four walls of a prison and the materialists are our jailors....they don't want us to see what's beyond those walls. They don't want us to discover what lies outside of their narrow philosophy.... Worst than that they think any attempt to escape from the prison is an act of treason!"
"We tell stories because God is a storyteller. In fact he is THE storyteller."
Tolkien believed Christianity was the culmination of the myths of our people. As a linguist versed in ancient languages and myths he was well aware of this truth. Tolkien said "Christianity is the true story, that makes sense of all the other stories. It is the archetype, it is the story in which all other stories have their source and the story to which all the other stories point."
Let us for example compare the end of the world of the Norse mythology as written in the Eddas to Christianity as written in the New Testament:
Brothers will fight
and kill each other,
sisters' children
will defile kinship.
It is harsh in the world,
whoredom rife
—an axe age, a sword age
—shields are riven—
a wind age, a wolf age—
before the world goes headlong.
No man will have
mercy on another.[13]
12 “Brothers will give their own brothers to be killed, and fathers will give their own children to be killed. Children will fight against their own parents and cause them to be put to death. 13 All people will hate you because you follow me, but those people who keep their faith until the end will be saved.
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How far the west has fallen when people like you literally defend pedophilia. They are normalizing evil in this world. When I was younger I thought liberal minded people just saw things differently, then I grew wiser and thought maybe they are just gullible or ill informed. Now I've come to see that Liberalism is a religion, a cult religion, it's practices are dogmatic, it's leaders invoke divine right and are unquestionable and infallible. We are told that we live in a democracy but the country was setup as a republic and almost all of the distinctions between republic and democracy have been annihilated by the powers in control, all of the safeguards on uncontrolled power.
Who has "literally" defended pedophilia? I don't defend it. My point is question your source of information. I've seen so many things on the Internet that are just plain wrong.
In the age of the internet people have no right to be uninformed or claim ignorance
Terrible logic. Ever heard of a tree octopus (http://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/)? Could it be you're uninformed or ignorant? No, you're not because there is no such thing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest_tree_octopus). However, the information is presented in such a way as to purport to be completely accurate and serious and people DO believe this (http://advance.uconn.edu/2006/061113/06111308.htm) and continued to defend it when proven false.
Let us for example compare the end of the world of the Norse mythology as written in the Eddas to Christianity as written in the New Testament...
Your comparison is weak. Is the only similarity that you're drawing on the "brothers" line? These two passages have entirely different meanings. The Norse passage implies that during the end of days that families will turn on each other to survive while the Christian passage implies that families will expose one another if one is found to be a Christian (Christ's teachings were considered "heretical" at the time).
[Liberalism is] a new Satanic religion that has grown up in the west in the aftermath of two world wars fought primarily for the benefit of the international cabal.
Don't confuse amorality with Satanism or immorality. These are three completely separate philosophies. Liberalism is, as far as I understand it, an attempt to serve all people and culture groups with a single broad set of logically established (I'm struggling for the right word here) rights which may be considered immoral to some. Liberalism means different things to different groups so there is no one consensus on its tenants.
I was about to ask if you have any conception of the history of things the FBI has hushed up, or any conception of the corrupt world we live in where people with lots of power and money are able to silence large amounts of people by threatening their job security or families.
Yes, I do know there are plenty of things the FBI has hushed up and that corruption exists in all governments. This just wouldn't be one of those instances. Even if it were, there are plenty of internal committees designed to prevent internal corruption. It hinges on there being a "top dog" that doesn't answer to anyone that is behind it all when that's just not true. Everyone, at least on paper, answers to someone else.
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DLPB, are you under the impression that everything is a conspiracy and any "establishment" talk is pure subversion?
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Nope. All I have said is that there needs to be a proper investigation because those leaks paint a very disturbing picture. Others are basically saying "Nothing to see here". It's that simple, really ;)
I look at each and every case and make my own mind up. JFK? It was Oswald. Moon landing? It happened. 9/11? It was a bunch of Muslims armed with box cutters.
So, no, I am not a conspiracy theorist.
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That's cool, just asking.
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It's probably more interesting to check out people who are in a position of trust. Certainly the worst abusers of power will seek to gain such a position. This has happened a lot with priests and even doctors. Look up Harold Shipman.
That's something I noticed regarding social justice types as well. They seem very good at using social leverage to get into and stay in positions of power and authority bottlenecks, after which they promote their friends and generally wreck up the place. It usually starts with heavy-handed moderation in the name of fee-fees.
Qhimm has generally lax moderation; all the better to let little arguments burn out instead of letting lots of tension build up. Everyone's allowed to argue to the point where it becomes mud-slinging (entertainment, argument for its own sake) and then someone shuts it down, but leaves it public.
Any organization can only serve once master. For us that master is rom hacking, but if we were supposed to do rom hacking and social justice (or any other form of evangelism) it would quickly become unbearable.
We don't even know how much people out there are paedo. As far as homosexuals are now accepted by society still some are slandered, in pedophilia nothing changed, it's heavy taboo and negative talk. Society thinks pedos are perverted predators raping and killing children. Many of them are living a happy life with adult spouse and had never touched any children in inappropriate way, yet still they can't say who they are. There aren't many statistics about paedos because everyone is hiding.
Kiwi Farms has a great write-up on Allison Rapp. She is a pedophile, a translator who apparently censored "problematic" stuff in Nintendo games before being fired, a hooker in an open relationship who also got her husband to be a gay hooker, and an all-around dumpster fire.
Warning: NSFW nudes from her (and his) escort website and terrible jokes in poor taste.
https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Alison_Rapp
http://www.gameskinny.com/f61aa/nsfw-individual-investigations-on-alison-rapp-have-discovered-what-her-moonlight-job-may-have-been
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Alison_Rapp
While I don't think that pedophiles should be executed, that is because we are better served by studying them. Preferably in a prison somewhere. Once we know how to spot them and we know what causes pedophilia, we can make sure that no more pedophiles are created.
As for why I think pedophiles should be exiled and studied; they are a threat to children and to public health.
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Well, I would also note that paedophile and abuser are two very different things. The latter is a criminal, the former is not. It's only when one acts on the dysfunctional impulse, infringing on another directly or indirectly, that it becomes a crime. For example, taking pictures, downloading material (depending on country) - or just plain sexual conduct with a minor.
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Qhimm has generally lax moderation; all the better to let little arguments burn out instead of letting lots of tension build up. Everyone's allowed to argue to the point where it becomes mud-slinging (entertainment, argument for its own sake) and then someone shuts it down, but leaves it public.
In general, I feel that tossing around bans tearing apart the modding part of the community over things that happen in CU would be counterproductive to the goals of the site. If I'm gonna do anything more serious than closing threads, it's generally only going to be when I see the potential for real trouble. The level of disagreement in this thread is enough for me to keep an eye on it, but not enough for me to take action (and I hope it doesn't reach that point).
Now, if any of you wanna start distributing copyrighted content, cussing out long-time members for calling you out on it, and telling me I will "surely get what I deserve some day" then we can start talking about taking more serious action.
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It seems we are capable of compartmentalizing our butthurt.
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In general, I feel that tossing around bans tearing apart the modding part of the community over things that happen in CU would be counterproductive to the goals of the site. If I'm gonna do anything more serious than closing threads, it's generally only going to be when I see the potential for real trouble. The level of disagreement in this thread is enough for me to keep an eye on it, but not enough for me to take action (and I hope it doesn't reach that point).
Now, if any of you wanna start distributing copyrighted content, cussing out long-time members for calling you out on it, and telling me I will "surely get what I deserve some day" then we can start talking about taking more serious action.
Yeah well.... Fern you, Covarr.
EDIT: although, Just for the sake of fun, and to keep this going. Who among you can actually tell me what spirit cooking is? (protip: satan isn't involved, what you guys seem to think is satanism, isn't satanism, and uhh... yeah you seem to be pretty misinformed on a few things).
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Why is it so hard to not be a butthole on the internet
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Satanism doesn't exist. Confused Matthew said it best "It's for the kids".
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Satanism doesn't exist. Confused Matthew said it best "It's for the kids".
In the sense that there are people running around sacrificing virgins to a goat's head at the top of a pentagram? No, not at all. In the sense that are philosophies and religions that use the story of Lucifer/Satan either in a deistic fashion or in an allegorical manner, yes, Satanism is a real thing, I can confirm that 100%
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In the sense that there are people running around sacrificing virgins to a goat's head at the top of a pentagram? No, not at all. In the sense that are philosophies and religions that use the story of Lucifer/Satan either in a deistic fashion or in an allegorical manner, yes, Satanism is a real thing, I can confirm that 100%
Satanism is a way for dorky weirdos and try-hards to seem edgy and get laid. It impresses fatties and looney women who are attracted to serial killers and rapists.
In any case since we're now talking about Comet Ping Pong et al, I would be remiss if I didn't post a link to the MPC thread about it.
https://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/9246-comet-ping-pong-besta-pizza-and-you-the-world-is-run-by-pedophile-child-traffickers/
Highlights:
The reason were even talking about this now is because NYPD found Weiners email stash and they contained common pedophile codewords. NYPD obviously know what these codewords mean as they have seen it before so they went to the FBI and Comey re-opened the case. Lets all pray to God that the NYPD still has a copy of the emails they found on Weiner's computer. PMan, you and I dont know what pedophile codewords are, but that doesn't mean they don't exist and there are many bizarre emails that dont make any sense. People talking about sharing a single slice of cheese pizza? They want to know how many people are coming so they know how thin to slice the slices???? This makes no sense in the context of food, but in the context of pedophile codewords, it does.
And youre right, we dont know for sure if this is pedophilia or not, which is why we need several investigations done. Im boggled as to why not a single investigation in 9/11 and this pedophile s**t has been done yet. At the very least, the Molesta emails looks like satanic ritual abuse and it needs to be investigated thoroughly. If Podesta the slimeball sits there without being investigated then all is lost. Trump must press charges and have the AG go after the devil worshipers. Investigations for every pervert involved. If we lived in a moral society, Hollywood and the government would have been investigated for pedophilia long ago.
I'm not saying there's nothing to any of this, I think there are likely pedophiles in that circle simply because you always see gay men in that milieu and where there are gay men, child molesters are never very far behind. It's an open secret among these people that gay men f**k underage twinks, they consider it acceptable for their own demented reasons, and pedophiles benefit from this. I don't know what the pizza stuff is about, but it's easy to read a lot into an inside joke. I think if there is really something going on the FBI will find bigger evidence than some vague innuendo about food. And at this point it will be difficult to cover up, given the animosity within FBI ranks.
I don't doubt for a moment that there is pedophilia among other sexual crimes rampant among the elites, and that those who don't partake turn a blind eye to it. We know it happens because we have so many criminal cases--Jimmy Saville, Dennis Hastert, Jerry Sandusky, Rotherham--in which it's been exposed. In every case there were people who knew and said and did nothing. Most likely these cases are the tip of the iceberg, and there is even more going on that is better concealed. People like Podesta mix with this element blithely, and that in itself should be cause for alarm. Nothing about what has come out reflects particularly well on him, the most charitable interpretation is that he is basically a nihilist whose interest in sexual images gets close to sadism.
It is the nature of today's elites and the perverse environment that shapes them that nihilism and sociopathy run high, and those are conditions that will always lead to abuse and exploitation. The banal form of that abuse is Hillary Clinton mistreating her underlings, the more sinister form is sexual. I can't at the moment describe exactly why sexuality is the special target of this kind of evil nihilism, but it always is. It's an aspect of sexual morality that liberals are always in denial of.
I think pman nailed it. When I was growing up in DC, there were always rumors of sexual impropriety discussed in hush tones, and I met some profoundly weird f**kers (especially at the Unitarian church), who produced broken relationships and damaged progeny. But I never caught anybody red handed.
Still, this is one of the reasons the contrast between Trump's family and the Clinton's is so viscerally startling. It's one thing to cheat on your wife because you can't control your horny levels. I do NOT condone or excuse that, but, truth is, in the grand scheme of things, it's a pretty normal mistake. Trump obviously never stopped loving his kids for a second, it shows in their health and vigor (and easy, natural smiles). I also strongly suspect that he was much less of a playboy than he wanted you to think he was (for marketing purposes) but that's a different story.
At any rate, there's a big difference between that sort of thing and true depravity. You might laugh at this, but another somewhat Trumpian figure is Phil Robertson, the patriarch of the Duck Dynasty clan. While he ultimately found God and patched up his marriage, he lived a famously lecherous life in his early years. Again, his kids turned out great, the happiness and wholesomeness is plain to see -- and it triggers the f**k out of the perverts.
Now, here's where I'm going with this: I know several other examples from my personal life of guys who struggled with fidelity, and they fit a pattern similar to Trump and Robertson. One key thing is their kids turned out great. "By their fruits ye shall know them" indeed. But the other thing that REALLY stands out in my mind right now -- and this might sound silly, bear with me -- is that they're all grossed out by buttstuff. Remember that GQ interview with Phil Robertson where he said he didn't understand the sexual appeal of an anus, nor why any man would choose that over a vagina?
This is important because it indicates the difference between simple sexual incontinence ("damn I want to hit that but I'm married but damn...") versus an addiction to transgressiveness and depravity ("man it would be so hot to cheat on my wife, so naughty, I want to be naughty..."). In the beginning, these two things look alike from the outside, but over time, they diverge, because addictions always escalate. Hence why gays in particular almost always go from bad to worse in their behavior. Homosexual intercourse is by its nature transgressive, so it's not just about the physical sensation but about the "high" that comes from being naughty. And the exploits of homos are well documented elsewhere on MPC.
But this sort of thing can apply to heteros as well. If the pleasure of sexual intercourse doesn't come from the physical sensation and the feelings of pair bonding with your mate, but rather, comes from the "high" of being "naughty," you're looking at a situation that will almost certainly progressively escalate to worse and worse things to get that "naughtiness" fix. I take it I don't even need to explain how the use of pornography aids and abets this process.
So, does this pizza stuff really indicate a pedo ring? I don't know. On the other hand, all of the trappings absolutely indicate normalization of sexual transgressiveness. And because that inevitably escalates -- and because these people have the money and resources to get away with it -- there are almost certainly lots and lots of people with varying degrees of guilt by proper moral standards. But is it actually a pedo ring? Or is it just someone like Lena Dunham who didn't see what was wrong with molesting her sister? It's hard to tell, and the one certainly doesn't preclude the other.
In conclusion, I recommend that our weaponized autism division continues to dig -- but also to be patient, and accepting of messiness and ambiguity. Things might be worse than the current theories, but then, they might also be "better" in that they don't involve sex slavery, but perhaps just diddling a permissive neighbor's kids. I don't know, but I guarantee you that if you keep digging, you will find some incredibly ugly s**t that will leave normal America aghast. At the very least, bringing the true depth of depravity of our elites to light can open the eyes of a public that is largely clueless.
Take that image I posted and show it to people who are reluctant to get on the Trump train, or who tepidly supported Clinton. Explain that this is the type of crowd that the Clintons run with. They will be appaled.
Normie twitter thinks we need to be gracious in victory. Well, against those of good faith and basic decency, yes, for sure. But for the deranged and degenerate true believers? Hell no. Run them down and destroy them. Find and expose all of their dirty laundry for the public to see. Drive them into exile. To the extent that they are depraved, even if they aren't kiddie diddlers (or prostitute beaters, or...) they one day would be, given the time and resources to feed their inevitability escalating depravity. Their disgusting behavior must be exposed, and they must never have the resources to get away with their indiscretions. Cast them into outer darkness, forever.
I have to agree here, that the essence of what is going on is not pedophile rings so much as banal tolerance of depravity by the powerful and their gay social circles. As far as the whole Illuminati or Satanist angle, I honestly believe that it is just part and parcel of the leftist need to worship themselves and transgress normal moral and social boundaries. The essence of modern occult movements are Luciferian and their beliefs resemble the self-love and license that typifies purely secular leftist ideology. In fact, I find little space between the two.
A question that I always wonder about is this - these people all start off as basically secular nihilists, in thrall to their appetites and loyal only to their own ambitions. I don't doubt that the more sadistic of them are drawn in some ways to Luciferian doctrines since they boil down to "worship yourself and do as thou wilt," but I'm sure that most who actually engage with actual occult rituals start off doing it mostly as a joke. How many eventually take it seriously? I have known people who join a church because they want their children to have a moral foundation, and eventually buy into it all after a long period of LARPing. I imagine that the same is possible with Satanists. How many start this s**t as a way to network with like-minded, transgressive sociopaths and show how they are "in on the joke" and can be "trusted to keep secrets," and eventually get to a point where they believe it on some level? How many true believers are there in high places in this country?
I still bet not that many, but even one is too many.
Satanists/Gnostics/Frankists all come to the same thing: transgress rules and morals. Transgress social rules. Shock people. Transgress God's rules. Transgress the basic fabric of the universe and then you can become like gods. Then you can make the rules. You don't have power only over people, but of the whole structure of society, of physics. You can have power over God. That is the promise. It's a false promise of course, but for these people it seems to be seductive.
What is all this trans nonsense, but an attempt to break through the roles that nature has given us. They actually think they can get one up on their own DNA. Cut off your dick to show that you won't be bound to your DNA.
Ejaculate in a woman's anus, isn't that defying nature? Take it a step further and ejaculate inside a man or inside a child. Isn't that sticking one to God? Who does he think he his to tell you what to do, anyway, Dad?
It might sound like nonsense to you, but they seem to believe it.
The other thing is that, if you accept spiritual reality as real, as I obviously do, then the evil rituals and practices and symbols and all that have an objective reality beyond whatever the fool who dabbles with them intends, and by making use of them and staying in prolonged contact with them, he opens himself up to malevolent influences - demons - who will gain influence and power over him. He will not have the latitude for long to think of it all as a lark, a joke or performance art. Exorcists like Fr. Amorth and Fr. Ripperger have described many, many exorcisms that were necessitated because someone, a kid usually, dabbled in occult stuff and let something in. Now imagine what is let in if you, God forbid, do something really dark like what is being suggested here?
BTW I haven't looked at any of the images in the links and I wouldn't recommend it, or if you do, don't keep looking at them. These kinds of things can affect you in bad ways and especially graphic images of this sort of thing are bad for the soul. Church exorcists warn against morbid interest in these sorts of things. Pray for police investigators who have to view this stuff as part of their investigations.
There is a lot of evidence that gay men like to have sex with boys, but even in the scientific literature it's handwaved as gay men "seeing" the otherness in a lonely children and "inducting" boys into gay culture by raping them. If normies knew there was more to gay men than being catty, superficial, and dying of AIDS, gay men would not be held in high esteem by anyone of worth.
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I was about to say that I stopped reading when I saw the words "where there are gay men, child molesters are never very far behind."... Then I saw your statement at the end of the post, and had to scrap everything I wrote.
I know we -JUST- had a conversation about civility; but I'm sorry, there's no place for it here, when you're literally saying that gay men are pedophiles because they're gay. Covarr, sl, obesebear, whoever sees this; if you have to ban me, go right the fern ahead, because I simply can't help myself here.
You are, without a doubt, one of the most disgusting piece of strawberries human beings I've ever had the misfortune of learning about the existence of. You have nothing but hatred and contempt in your heart, and a people like you are the reason why there will never be world peace. It's not because of Islam, or black people, or homosexuality, or whatever your flavor of the week bigotry is. I sincerely hope you experience nothing but pain and misery for the rest of your (hopefully short) life. You wish nothing but pain and misery on others, and are genuinely of no value to society. Your opinions are invalid (and yes, opinions -CAN- be invalid. "I think gay men are inherently pedophillic" is factually invalid, and therefore your opinion is invalid), and I would not be surprised to find out that your IQ is equivalent to that of a rock (I'm sorry rocks, please forgive me). You either fail to see the parallels to one of the most horrifying events in human history playing out before us, or you embrace them. Either way, it shows us that you yearn to live under the shadow of Fascism once more. I will have NO sympathy for you whatsoever when your family members die fighting for your sickening ideals; all I can hope for, is that you live long enough to see it.
EDIT: by the way, it would still please me if you died sooner rather than later.... Fuck it, try to die as soon as possible; prevent your genes from continuing in the first place.
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Annnd we are done. Topic closed. Too many people right ready for a ban.
edit: this is an inclusive place. nobody deserves to get shit on.