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terrible pop music(that bugs me most, radio music has no place in a ff, thats where the devil started), again BAD BACKROUND MUSIC....


I actually half and half agree with you here; I personally enjoyed parts of X-2's soundtrack, even the J-Pop songs, and I think it worked considering Spiras setting, it wouldnt have worked in X of course cuz of the overall depressing mood caused by sin and the whole anti-technology stuff but I feel it did work in X-2, (especially when one keeps in mind that the songs were basically from Lennes memories from a time when it made sense pop music would be the in thing) however the overall feel of the music did feel like it was marking the downfall of the series. It had nothing on the older soundtracks.
Nonetheless, I wasnt worried about the game until I beat my first proper battle and found out they'd changed the victory theme. I know it sounds like a silly thing to worry about an entire game over, but I honestly did.

I still think the music was decent enough, the majority of the tracks were just nothing special to me, then there was a couple I liked (not counting the vocal tracks, Eternity: Memory of Lightwaves and Leblancs battle theme: I'll Give you Something Hot) but the rest was rather forgettable.

Unfortunately the games that followed seemed to all have nothing but forgettable pieces... (at least XII did, seriously cannot think of a single track from that)

I think the true mark of FF going to strawberries, at least music wise, was when they had Leona Lewis for the theme song of 13. That was the point where I knew they were putting getting a mainstream audience above the actual storytelling... at least J-Pop isn't exactly popular in western countries, with 13 they had the japanese theme song and rather than having a english version re-recorded or simply releasing it over here in japanese as they did with Suteki Da Ne, they purposely went out of their way to get a artist popular over heres song in it instead, made even worse by the fact I dont think the song fit with the aesthetic of the world at all

of course this is just how I feel x3

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The issue with FF13 isn't so much that they changed the battle system, or even that it's semi-real-time, but that it's really poorly implemented. The balance of the thing is all wrong. It wouldn't work particularly well in any other franchise either.

Oh sorry x3 I meant the real time one they are apparently putting in 15? as I said I've not actually played 13 but I've heard mixed things about its battle system, with some saying its the best thing about the game and others saying its awful.

Of course that doesnt mean I have hope for 15 having a decent battle system either, from my experience, Square often implement new battle systems in their games that have amazing features yet nothings done to take advantage of them. X-2 is still my favourite example of this with the moving around the map as battle continues yet from what I remember it was entirely aesthetic.

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yeah, I assumed there'd be a chance problems will happen along the way, but so long as I can play it fine for now I can deal with them when I get there x3

nd yeah, I thought it was strange my integrated graphics had trouble with a game as old as FF7, even with HQ textures, but none with games like Saints Row or Skyrim, but I just presumed it was maybe something to do with how the game handled memory or something xD

but anyways, thanks for the help =] if anything major pops up I'll try remember to post details on the updated driver thread if that'll be useful? =]

EDIT: Also I managed to fine the answer to my wallmarket skill names problem in the actual thread so thats no longer an issue either =]

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Oh wow! I've set it up it and it seems to have loaded the majority of my mods fine (least the ones I can immediately check) ^_^ and as of yet its not crashed and it generally would have done by now. There are a handful of small errors happening (for example the arrows showing accessible areas/ladders etc. seem to be loading the wrong graphics/when attack changes to limit its loading something wrong for the rainbow effect and the minimap on the world map has disappeared so theres just a yellow fan moving about on nothing x3) but none of these things bother me at all and are a fair trade off for not crashing xD

so thanks a lot! =] this seems to have basically solved my problem ^_^

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Ahhh damn. x3 nah mines integrated. Thanks for the help anyways =] guess I'll just have to live with playing the game in small sections x3

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Thanks for replying =] Im actually not using the menu overhaul x3 but heres my APP.LOG; it literally just had a crash fore I checked here aha :'] (It lasted a long while this time though, I was grinding on the world map with absolutely no problems until I decided to enter Nibelheim to continue so maybe changing areas has something to do with it?)

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INFO: FF7/FF8 OpenGL driver version 0.7.11b
INFO: Auto-detected version: FF7 1.02 US English
INFO: Intel Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000 3.1.0 - Build 9.17.10.3223
INFO: Using PBO
INFO: Found swap_control extension
INFO: Max texture size: 8192x8192
INFO: Number of texture units: 8
INFO: Original resolution 640x480, window size 900x700, output resolution 900x700, internal resolution 1280x960
INFO: FBO extension detected, using fast scaling/postprocessing path
INFO: FFMpeg movie player plugin loaded
INFO: FFMpeg version SVN-r25886, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
INFO: No shaders, codecs with YUV output will be slow.
INFO: FF7Music helper plugin loaded
INFO: Loading external library Multi.dll
LOCK UNLOCK TEST
MATRIX INITIALIZE
INITIALIZE DD/D3D END
ERROR: could not open file c:\users\cashgen\documents\my games\finfan7\ff7input.cfg
initializing sound...
creating dsound primary buffer
reading audio file
loading static sounds
sound initialized
set music volume: 127
set music volume: 127
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF CREDITS!!!
INFO: c:\users\cashgen\documents\my games\finfan7\movies\eidoslogo.avi; indeo5/pcm_s16le 640x480, 30.000000 FPS, duration: 12.933333, frames: 388
INFO: slow output format from video codec indeo5; 6
set music volume trans: 127->0, step=60
END OF CREDITS!!!
Entering MAIN
set music volume: 127
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
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Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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Exiting MAIN
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Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Swirl sound_effect1
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Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
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Exiting MAIN
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[BATTLE] Scene# 140
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
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Exiting MAIN
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END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
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Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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Swirl sound_effect1
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[BATTLE] Scene# 141
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
pause_sound
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[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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Swirl sound_effect1
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End of Swirl sound_effect1
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[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 142
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[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
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Swirl sound_effect1
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End of Swirl sound_effect1
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[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 141
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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set music volume: 127
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Swirl sound_effect1
stop_sound
End of Swirl sound_effect1
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Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 142
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
pause_sound
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[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
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set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
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END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
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stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
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Swirl sound_effect1
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End of Swirl sound_effect1
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Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Entering MAIN
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[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 143
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
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Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Swirl sound_effect1
stop_sound
End of Swirl sound_effect1
Entering FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 141
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
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set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Swirl sound_effect1
stop_sound
End of Swirl sound_effect1
Entering FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Entering MAIN
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[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 143
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
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Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Swirl sound_effect1
stop_sound
End of Swirl sound_effect1
Entering FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 140
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
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Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
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-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
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Swirl sound_effect1
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Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
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[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 140
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
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Swirl sound_effect1
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[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 142
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[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
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[BATTLE] Scene# 140
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[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
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[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
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[BATTLE] endof battle.
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stop_sound
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[BATTLE] endof battle.
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[BATTLE] End of current battle
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[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
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[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
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START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
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[BATTLE] End of current battle
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[BATTLE] Scene# 142
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[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
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[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
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Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
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Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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Exiting MAIN
Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
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Swirl sound_effect1
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Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
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Exiting MAIN
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 141
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[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
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[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
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Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Swirl sound_effect1
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Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
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Exiting MAIN
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 140
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
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set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Swirl sound_effect1
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Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 141
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
ERROR: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY
ERROR: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY
ERROR: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY
ERROR: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY
ERROR: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
cross play music: 0
set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Swirl sound_effect1
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Exiting MAIN
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 140
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[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
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[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
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Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
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set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Swirl sound_effect1
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Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
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Exiting MAIN
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 141
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
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set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
set music volume: 127
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Swirl sound_effect1
stop_sound
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Entering FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 142
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
cross play music: 0
set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
set music volume: 127
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Swirl sound_effect1
stop_sound
End of Swirl sound_effect1
Entering FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 141
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Begin main battle loop
[BATTLE] End of current battle
[BATTLE] Begin end battle stuff
stop_sound
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_QUIT
[BATTLE] endof battle.
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_QUIT
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
cross play music: 0
set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
set music volume: 127
cross play music: 0
set music volume trans: 127->0, step=4
stop_sound
set music volume: 127
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
START OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
END OF MENU SYSTEM!!!
-=-=[START OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
stop_sound
-=-=[END OF WORLD MAP!!!]=-=-
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
Field Start
Field Quit
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE SWIRL
ERROR: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY
Swirl sound_effect1
stop_sound
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Entering FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Exitting FRAME_QUIT SWIRL
Entering MAIN
Exiting MAIN
[BATTLE] Entering FRAME_INITIALIZE
[BATTLE] Scene# 565
[BATTLE] Exitting FRAME_INITIALIZE
ERROR: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY
ERROR: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY
ERROR: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY
ERROR: GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY

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I havent actually played FF13 due to a combination of never having bought a PS3 and having half gave up on the series apart from some spin-offs and 'side games that are sorta related' eg: Kingdom Hearts.

Honestly though I dont see why the new battle system in this game would generate so much hate; its been clear for a while Square have been targeting a more mainstream audience as opposed to the diehard JRPG fans, and a real time battle system will fill that need, but also imo gives way for a chance at much more strategic combat than turn-based would. In other words I feel that, if they play there cards right, they could actually please everyone for a change. (especially if earlier posts were right in them bringing back the staples of the series mostly lost from 10 upwards such as the world map; all things I think made the FF series what there were more so than having a turn-based battle system)

However, I *do* think they could have really perfected turn-based systems. In my opinion the slickness of X-2s battle system, even though it felt unfinished (it still annoys me how you can end up moving around the battle map when doing attacks and yet they done nothing with that feature) really shown a lot of promise for future games in the series.

In response to character design being part of the problem. I agree, actually I think that the general designs of the games has became completely blurred to the point its hard to tell one entry in the series from another; to me they all look too similar to the world aesthetic they created in X with minor differences (exception being 12 which was set in a universe they created aeons back anyways). Its honestly very off putting as I cant look at newer entries in the series as the same as VI-X where it felt like a whole new world had been designed specifically for that one game (5 downwards shared similar world designs, however I feel this is more to do with limitations on the older systems plus a fear to stray from what they'd always done, sides it was just basically medieval fantasy world but more colorful so I feel I cant complain about something 90% of other RPGs do anyways)

Finally, on Tidus, I think people are hating him for all the wrong reasons (yeah he was a bit whiny, but nowhere near as bad as most people are saying and at least for justified reasons; I bet most people would react much worse in the same situation) He does nonetheless irk me at times with the constant slip-ups bout Zanarkand, and going on bout how it was his story etc.

but on the otherhand, he felt like a real person. He was by no means the most likable FF protagonist; but I quite honestly see a LOT of love for other characters from this series that are so 2D in terms of personality, I really just cant understand why people would hate on someone who goes through pretty well written character development, irregardless of how annoying they can be at times.

(sorry for the long ass post x3)

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Well before I get to the small problems I have, Hey! im Andeh =] (I couldnt see an introduction thread so yeah x3 sorry if there is in fact a huge obvious one I've somehow totally missed) I've been lurking these forums for a while now, mostly in regards to my use of mods in my game, but have had trouble finding anything in regards to my upcoming problems so I thought I may as well make an account, sides I was pretty active on FF Citadel fore it started dying out, so a new FF forum seems worth being part of  aheh :3 nyways sorry bout that, onto what this topics about.

Basically, I have just a couple small problems with my modded game. I've used the Bootloader to install my mods and its worked out more or less perfectly; my game is currently using gjoerulvs hardcore mod with both aerith revival and new spell names (just in case any of this is at all relevent)

My first problem is when using the wallmarket editor, there were some things I felt needed tweaking to my own personal liking in the hardcore mode with skills, which I done easily enough, however with so much power at my hands it was hard to resist creating my own skills, and thats where my problem came in; I edited both Mini and Frog into Drain spells, and they function exactly as I designed, however, when I save the changes to the Kernal, the names appear as what Ive changed them too, but when I then load up the game,  the names are still Mini/Toad, yet they function as the spells I changed them too. I'm sure I'm just missing something hugely obvious but I cannot for the life of me figure out what that is and I cant see anything about it in the help faq that was part of Wallmarket. So yeah, how do I make my text changes stick?

My second problem is that since modding my game, occasionally after a while of playing, small graphical errors will start happening.
To be precise, Clouds model or weapon model or both starts disappearing (its happened with Red XIII too, but otherwise its only ever Cloud), menu icons for items start disappearing, and eventually, black squares start covering large amounts of backgrounds in areas, eventually I'll enter a new area and they'll be no background whatsoever; plus once the graphical errors go this far, then the next battle I enter with near 100% certainty will give me an "oops! something bad happened" error.

At first this was little more than a minor annoyance as it happened quite rarely and was of course fixed by simply closing and reopening the game. However since I reached the world map its became increasingly common, sometimes happening every handful of battles, so if anyone has any idea whats going wrong and how to fix this it would be of great help.

I'm sorry if this would have been better suited for one of the other boards, I couldnt decide where it should go and saw little reason in making a topic for each problem so I just put it here considering the description x3

Thanks in advance =]

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