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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4525 on: 2019-04-18 20:54:27 »
The problem is there's no way to know the spelling the original writers intended...  All 3 spellings are valid - though Lucrecia leads people to pronounce the name wrong.  But it's still a valid spelling of the kana and of the name.  It's going to be tough to amend that given we also have all current media using Lucrecia for FF7.

What we'd need here is something that conclusively tells us the writer's intention of the spelling - if they even had one.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4526 on: 2019-04-18 21:45:03 »
The problem is there's no way to know the spelling the original writers intended...  All 3 spellings are valid - though Lucrecia leads people to pronounce the name wrong.  But it's still a valid spelling of the kana and of the name.  It's going to be tough to amend that given we also have all current media using Lucrecia for FF7.

What we'd need here is something that conclusively tells us the writer's intention of the spelling - if they even had one.

Well in this case I would follow the Zax case and stick to Lucretia to don't mislead the people from pronouncing it in a wrong way even though Lucrecia it's made canon nowadays. As Caledor suggests below:

Wanted to point out that the change from Lucretia to Lucrezia is just a sign of time passing. With the fall of the Roman Empire, Latin evolved into "Volgare", and the "Lucretia"s became "Lucrezia"s.

Lucrecia is the spanish equivalent for that name, but in japanese it's usually rendered as ルクレシア, Rukureshia.

ルクレッツィア (Rukurettsu~ia) - but who better then Luksy can tell us!

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4527 on: 2019-04-18 22:14:20 »
This isn't the same as Zax though... Zax is wrong spelling and wrong name, whereas  Lucrecia is a variant of Lucrezia.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4528 on: 2019-04-18 22:24:24 »
However, we all agreed that it is a misleading variant. :p

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4529 on: 2019-04-18 22:29:48 »
We'll have to go on likelihood.  I'll defer to Luksy and Charlie Beer. If it's tied, I'll leave it as Lucrecia.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4530 on: 2019-04-19 12:13:22 »
In other news, Maki has fixed almost all remaining bugs in Aali's dll - and I fixed the Chocobo Races issue.  So I'm looking at closing this installer out finally.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4531 on: 2019-04-19 12:30:03 »
From https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Junon#Tifa_and_Scarlet_slap_fight


There are two missing dialogues - Only the Wiki one was fixed.  I've done both now.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4532 on: 2019-04-19 12:40:16 »
In other news, Maki has fixed almost all remaining bugs in Aali's dll
Please excuse me while I go wet myself 8) Any chance Maki could do some documentation on how some of the options really work?  One of the things that's always confused me is in the resolution settings, and what "2X*320" and "4X*240" really means, since X=1 ends up with 640x960, while 3840x2160 (the 7H default) isn't a 4:3 ratio, either.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4533 on: 2019-04-19 12:43:53 »
The game works at 640 * 480 (and some parts 320 * 240).   

I am not sure what 7H does - but all multiples of that are normal.

I use 1280 * 960 in window mode. 

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4534 on: 2019-04-20 00:14:25 »
Hey, I wanted to chime in and say thank you for this great mod pack, It really has become the definitive way for me to re-experience FFVII, I had 2 questions to ask though.

1. Is it possible to use the Reunion with New Threat?

2. I'm loving the model overhaul mods used in the Reunion but was wondering if there's any in-battle model mods to complement as it seems the Reunion doesn't change.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4535 on: 2019-04-20 14:25:30 »
1. This will only be considered when New Threat and The Reunion are complete - and will require the help of Sega Chief.

2. Model Overhaul is designed to be faithful to the original art style.  The battle models are already high poly enough and as accurate to the game style as they can be, so it's not something I am pursuing.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4536 on: 2019-04-20 14:30:33 »
I am now working flat out to finalize the installer and get R06 out - even if an update is then needed down the road.  At some point it has to be released and we've waited long enough.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4537 on: 2019-04-21 20:28:48 »
EDIT:
▝ After reading first page regarding Model Overhaul (which is already a good improvement staying loyal to FFVII) was wondering if is there anything planned in future for Reunion to give a graphic boost such as Remako HD backgrounds?

Interested to know if DLPB is planning a HD background module for The Reunion too.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4538 on: 2019-04-22 09:55:39 »
I am now working flat out to finalize the installer and get R06 out - even if an update is then needed down the road.  At some point it has to be released and we've waited long enough.

I just want to rip apart the files and dig into it, cannot wait..

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4539 on: 2019-04-22 17:31:33 »
Well, dear DLPB, it seems we are really close to the R06 release.

That day we will all need to drink something to celebrate. 

And then a well deserved pause to lay back and enjoy what you and your collaborators have accomplished.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4540 on: 2019-04-22 18:11:11 »
I kinda wish we had an actual release date just so I can request that day off work to play it.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4541 on: 2019-04-26 22:11:01 »
A quick one (kuro_8):

Shouldn't Sephiroth laugh be different looking at the Japanese? Not "Ha Ha Ha" but: "Heh Heh Heh"
Also because only Sephiroth and Cloud are sharing this particular laugh ("クックックッ"; and Hojo I Believe)

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4542 on: 2019-04-26 22:40:52 »
I kinda wish we had an actual release date just so I can request that day off work to play it.

It's out when it's out

A quick one (kuro_8):

Shouldn't Sephiroth laugh be different looking at the Japanese? Not "Ha Ha Ha" but: "Heh Heh Heh"
Also because only Sephiroth and Cloud are sharing this particular laugh ("クックックッ"; and Hojo I Believe)

Seph
Cloud

Yeah, that last one is more like a wicked kind of snicker.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4543 on: 2019-04-26 23:18:27 »
It is, but a good localization is not going to use "heh heh heh"  - it comes across ridiculous and against the character in English.  Facts should be maintained where possible but you have to get the tone correct as well.  Also, the animation is clearly a laugh.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4544 on: 2019-04-27 01:58:42 »
https://youtu.be/d5f4-m77O90?t=1859
this is a laugh only sephiroth and cloud share its kinda a hint that the two have somethings in common..

also if you have not you may want to watch these.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4545 on: 2019-04-27 12:01:47 »
Charlie Beer has watched them all and is flagging up things from there also that need to change.  The laugh isn't something that I feel can work well when changed to English, which is prob why Charlie hasn't raised it either.  Still, I've forwarded this to him.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4546 on: 2019-04-27 13:12:05 »
Charlie Beer has watched them all and is flagging up things from there also that need to change.  The laugh isn't something that I feel can work well when changed to English, which is prob why Charlie hasn't raised it either.  Still, I've forwarded this to him.
The main take away about the laugh for me is not that it should be "ha ha ha " or "heh heh heh" but that Sephiroth, Clould and Hojo share the same Maniacal laugh that is different from the the laugh other characters use as they do in the Japanese. Perhaps this will help you  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaIJKM0sjdo its a bunch of Maniacal laughs from movies.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4547 on: 2019-04-27 13:18:38 »
There's no good way to represent that kind of laugh in English - other than what we already have.  The game itself seems to do a decent job of portraying that already through animation.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4548 on: 2019-04-27 13:31:40 »
Its a shame in a language as common as English there is no commonly used maniancal laugh  i think something like  mwhaha  would work to get the point across and its two characters shorter then ha ha ha.

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« Reply #4549 on: 2019-04-27 14:56:06 »
Its a shame in a language as common as English there is no commonly used maniancal laugh  i think something like  mwhaha  would work to get the point across and its two characters shorter then ha ha ha.

Japanese has a lot of interesting nuances that are hard to properly translate.