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« Reply #225 on: 2012-02-05 16:13:20 »
Anyone got it yet? I've just finished 500AF, really enjoying it :)

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« Reply #226 on: 2012-02-06 01:46:42 »
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/final-fantasy-xiii-2/user-reviews

News is... it isn't lookin' good!

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Sadly with FF Series is going the same as Call of Duty and Resident Evil, they explode the serie with **** games for the only purpose to make more money because they know that fans buy these games no matter how bad they are, this game only have graphic and awesome CGI, but the gameplay and the story and how the game led by, make this game horrible, the pages "specialized" in reviews, the majority are paid to give a good review, Sadly the fans are guilty of creating these types of games, they are the ones who give money to companies so that users would continue taking money from the pockets, to create more games that are just as bad or worse the predecessor, the FF series ended after FFX, FFXII is a horrible Game, even I do not know as there are some people who like this game, I hope that Final Fantasy Versus XIII is better than these, or will be forced to reset the saga as happened with several games and I hope that Capcom and Activision do the same with Resident Evil and Call of Duty, Call of Duty especially with that please do not make anymore ;D. Sorry Square,but for some long, long time are they doing bad games, and YES PLEASE MAKE KINGDOM HEART 3, AND STOP MAKING THIS **** GAMES, sorry FFXII Fans but STOP BUYING THIS **** GAME

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Although even after that the poor fool is still gonna buy versus hahaha

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The series is dead. It may not be a corpse lying in a grave, but its a zombie that just won't lie down.

HAHAHAHAHA!
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Re: Final Fantasy XIII-2 News
« Reply #227 on: 2012-02-06 01:52:35 »
it's cool

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Re: Final Fantasy XIII-2 News
« Reply #228 on: 2012-02-06 10:33:46 »
The game is actually fucking brilliant. I've been glued to my PS3 all weekend. I'm shocked at how much I'm enjoying it.

All the side quests and mini games are fun, the NPC's are back (and there are more than ever, it really gives each town a great ambience), Live Trigger let's you ask the questions you actually WANT to ask, theres a shit load of optional stuff to do, and the story is actually very coherent and makes a lot of sense. The levelling system is completely user controlled and the monster levelling system is engrossing. I've read a few reviews that complain about the story, but I honestly can't see how.

The VA's are stellar and the story - while slightly impeded by that fact that you can jump to different times ahead of when you're logically supposed to - is actually really good (so far).

In addition to that, it's beautiful and I can't wait to get home from uni and play it till I fall asleep. I've clocked almost 20 hours so far and I'm only about 1/5th of the way through the story, because I've been exploring and doing optional things and side-quests.

It once again feels like a Final Fantasy game, and is hands down the best JRPG I've played since X.

I haven't completed it yet, so if anyone is going to post spoilers could you please post a warning? I'm sure others would appreciate it too.

EDIT: Also wanted to add that Noel is one of the best characters in FF history. I thought I would hate him, but he is a traditional FF hero (slightly stoic, good guy, helps the helpless but not in an "I'm such a hero" annoying way) in addition to me actually caring about his character. I can honestly say I didn't connect with the characters in XIII as much as him. Also his VA is amazing.
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Re: Final Fantasy XIII-2 News
« Reply #229 on: 2012-02-06 13:17:56 »
I dislike the fact that the ending

SPOILER ALERT

Has a "To be continued" tag.

I hated how depressing it was... even after all that. It sucks, I became attached to the characters damnit.

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« Reply #230 on: 2012-02-06 21:10:55 »
Just loaded my save file up, and Fang did the recap. I was amazed xD

Yeah I've been saying that I've finished 500AF....it was actually 200 lol.

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« Reply #231 on: 2012-02-07 19:50:31 »
For whoever is still on the fence here is a quote from gabe over at penny arcade:

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If you liked FF XIII then the sequel is even better and you should go get it right now. If you hated the previous game you’ll find nothing to like about XIII-2.


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« Reply #232 on: 2012-02-08 11:05:06 »
I actually disagree with that. The only thing similar to XIII is the battle system, and even that's been refined.

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« Reply #233 on: 2012-02-10 18:11:12 »
Chocolina is amazing. She has to be one of the best characters ever xDD

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« Reply #234 on: 2012-02-10 19:34:31 »
I'm enjoying this game so far, played & finished ff13 completely. The only thing I miss about ff13 is, (more playable characters) I mean like main party, not monsters :p.
And weapon upgrading system :(. About 7 hours played so far, and at 200AF.
The best parts of FF13-2 for me:
No limits on crystarium I think?
Able to change leader at will.
Tons of monsters to get to party.
Able to travel through time back & forth (Reminds me of Chrone Trigger) :D
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Re: Final Fantasy XIII-2 News
« Reply #235 on: 2012-02-11 14:34:25 »
The crystarium is limited to lv.99 per role. It's still a great system though.

Completed it last night. Got ~151 fragments, just got to get the paradox endings and that stupid 7777 casino coins fragment from Serendipity. Since I've got tons of gil, I'm tempted to just buy all the coins I need and sit and pull the lever for a few hours. Scary beeswax.


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« Reply #236 on: 2012-02-12 08:38:43 »
I dislike the fact that the ending

SPOILER ALERT

Has a "To be continued" tag.

I hated how depressing it was... even after all that. It sucks, I became attached to the characters damnit.

attached to the characters. damnnnn. that hasn't happened to me since ff8

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« Reply #237 on: 2012-02-12 08:41:58 »
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If you liked FF XIII then the sequel is even better and you should go get it right now. If you hated the previous game you’ll find nothing to like about XIII-2.

This guy has no idea.... XIII-2 is nothing like XIII.

I'm about 22 hours into XIII-2 now, and its actually pretty darn great.

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« Reply #238 on: 2012-02-12 14:55:07 »
Yeah I completed it on Thursday. Thought it was awesome. The ending is a real shock.

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Re: Final Fantasy XIII-2 News
« Reply #239 on: 2012-02-12 16:02:18 »
Still has auto battle though, so fuck that, they took the mash x to win joke a bit to seriously with that.

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« Reply #240 on: 2012-02-12 19:15:22 »
Jihl Nabaat DLC battle



No word on whether she's tameable or not though.

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« Reply #241 on: 2012-02-13 10:11:58 »
Still has auto battle though, so fuck that, they took the mash x to win joke a bit to seriously with that.

Seriously, if you "mashed x to win" in this game you wouldn't get very far at all. In FFXIII you can do that for a large first portion of the game, because they baby you with non stop tutorials. This one isn't like that at all.

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« Reply #242 on: 2012-02-13 19:57:57 »
Seriously, if you "mashed x to win" in this game you wouldn't get very far at all. In FFXIII you can do that for a large first portion of the game, because they baby you with non stop tutorials. This one isn't like that at all.
Actually, I bet most people who hate FFXIII would be surprised how soon that strategy becomes not an option, and you are forced to experiment in battle unless assisted by the aid of a walkthrough video. You can't even beat an Eidolon that way.

The auto-battle function is actually very useful in the later part of the game where you want to kill an enemy that is weak to fire and not have to go into the menu and hit "fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire" each time for one attack. It's not so much that it plays the game for you but becomes a way of easily selecting attack combinations on enemies you have already discerned the weaknesses for.

If you actually can stand the linearity and poor story (background mythology aside) and stick with the game long enough the battles become more enjoyable and complex. But the thing is, that is all there is this game. Battle battle battle, cutscene, battle battle battle, and some optional chocobo digging at the end.

Dahaka, all of the Barthandelus boss battles, Orphan I, , Mark mission 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 62, Attackus, Vercingetorix, and the Long Gui all provide difficulty. The question is, can you stand to make it that far?

For me, I've played all the final fantasy's for the sake of trying, and although this game did seem like a step back and isn't near as good as my favorites in the series, it certainly isn't the worst. There are A LOT of cons to FFXIII but I would say the battle system isn't one of them, but if you really made the case that it is, it would be at the bottom of the list of problems.

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« Reply #243 on: 2012-02-13 20:00:19 »
It does not change the fact that the game is still dumbed down over what the series used to be, you have even less characters in battle, I have read people who still complain about the lack of strategy,

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For a franchise that prides itself on story I have to say this game is one of the poorer entries in the series. Possibly the worst. The story is very bland and uninspiring. Also it doesn't make a whole lot of sense and is not easy to follow even if you're a fanboy. I will say that the graphics for this game are very good but that was already established by the previous game. Combat again is largely the same and I found myself using the same combination of Paradigms and moves over and over again making the experience very bland. They did add quicktime event which didn't add much for me and I also feel are outdated to begin with. Overall this was a very poor game showing that Square Enix is running out of innovative ideas.

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It's nearly impossible to pay attention to them, because the battles are a mess of spinning swords, flashing numbers, and explosions. It's all cinematic, you could select a paradigm that gives the party one attacker and one healer, and then put down the controller and go do something else. You'll eventually win. There's no skill, logic, or thinking involved whatsoever. Your input is completely insignificant to the outcome, and the battles drag on. It can take upwards of 5 minutes to win some of the early battles in the game.

and to top it off, the story is awful and ends with a "to be continued".

It is just a cash in.

It is currently scoring among the very worst FF in history at Metacritic by user score (actually I do believe THE worst).  7.2 for playstation 3 and 5.9 (FIVE POINT NINE) for Xbox

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/final-fantasy-xiii-2

Even FFX-2 got 7.7

You can't tell me this is coincidence?
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« Reply #244 on: 2012-02-14 13:17:00 »
The game is not remotely dumbed down. It has a very complex levelling and battle system, and there are a shit load of side quests that aren't empty (as in, there are a ton of sub plots with VA recorded dialogue, a purpose for each one). The characters all have depth, reasons for what they're doing and no plot point is useless (though there are a few plot-holes).

It's all about choice. You can choose how you want to level your characters, which roles you want them to advance in for the strategies you're going to use in battle.

If there was no strategy required, I would be able to spam auto battle all the way through, and you seriously can't do that. If you choose to level the wrong roles or don't have the correct paradigms set before battles, it's actually very easy to get a game over.

The story is actually not bad. There was at least a running narrative this time, and the characters were finally real enough to care about. The only problem was TOO MUCH CHOICE leading to a slightly fractured narrative, but that's only me because I'm a completionist and had to do everything as soon as it was available.

You have 2 characters in battle, and another 150 monsters to choose from. This makes for some very interesting (and fun) strategic planning. I'm not going to pretend I don't miss having my 6 characters to choose from as in XIII or any other FF game, but what I will say is that I fucking LOVE taking a Tonberry into battle with me. It's hilarious and keeps the battles from getting stale.

If there's one thing I'm going to complain about, it's Serendipity. It just feels quite empty. The chocobo races are impossible to consistently win on the highest class without a totally levelled Silver/Gold chocobo, and even then they're repetitive. Not to mention my rage at trying to get that 7777 coins fragment. Literally just got 20000 coins from the exchanger and sellotaped L1 down.

Got my platinum trophy this morning. The game is worth every penny, and Square Enix have taken the complaints with XIII and actually implemented every single one.

The ending was a bit of a mindfuck, but it was still totally worth it. I wouldn't be defending it's predecessor nearly as much as I'm defending this, and that's because every fan complaint has been dealt with. If people want to keep bitching they have a right to an opinion, but I think people that have played it from start to finish are pissed off because they can see they fixed what they didn't like about XIII, and they still don't like it. Which is a shame.

To be honest, the biggest mistake they made was calling the auto-battle button auto-battle. Having recently replayed VII and VIII, you're doing the same fucking thing for the first few hours anyway. Attack, Attack, Attack, Attack. You do the same thing at the start of EVERY FF game. Just attack to win. Hold X to win, as it were. Then you might have to cast magic once in a while to kill something new, or to heal. Technically speaking, XIII and XIII-2 actually require more button presses to do this, what with the paradigm shift before you press "auto-battle" again hahaha :P.

EDIT: I've just re-read this and I would like to make it clear that I am in no way saying that this is the best ever Final Fantasy game, but it's still a damn good one. I just feel the need to vehemently defend it since a lot of people seem to have made the assumption it's just like it's predecessor when it's a completely different game.
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Re: Final Fantasy XIII-2 News
« Reply #245 on: 2012-02-14 15:53:11 »
Looks like i'll give this a try il wait a bit more for it to be a bit cheaper

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« Reply #246 on: 2012-02-15 09:21:50 »
It is currently scoring among the very worst FF in history at Metacritic by user score (actually I do believe THE worst).  7.2 for playstation 3 and 5.9 (FIVE POINT NINE) for Xbox

hahaha @ this

The fact that XIII is higher than XIII-2 is pretty obvious proof that these kind of scores should be taken with a grain of salt, wouldn't you agree?

Sure, you can argue that the unique XIII style battle system isn't as good as <insert favourite FF battle system here>, but the whole 'things just keep getting worse and worse' attitude is pretty darn silly.

The fact is, from playing XIII-2, you can see that Square have taken HUGE steps in the right direction, and taken on a TON of player feedback.

Things are looking up my friend. Based on what I have seen, I'm actually pretty excited for what the next Final Fantasy will bring. It also will certainly not use the same XIII style battle system, another plus in your books.

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« Reply #247 on: 2012-02-15 16:23:54 »
I disagree.... I think when you get user scores that low for an FF game (the lowest), there is a very good reason for it.

The reason it has gone lower than XIII is likely to do with fan backlash.
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« Reply #248 on: 2012-02-16 08:24:50 »
The reason it has gone lower than XIII is likely to do with fan backlash.

Exactly right, these aren't level headed reviews to be taken very seriously. These are fans still pissed off from XIII and XIV. This is why the actual score, not the user score, is much better.

This gametrailers review is pretty spot on actually: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AWPhQqYIwg

Or just read Prince Lex's mini review above, he's on the money. Especially about Serendipity lol, it really is a pretty shitty attempt at a 'Gold Saucer'.

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« Reply #249 on: 2012-02-16 08:26:10 »
tell me this though,

would you put it in the top 50% of FF games? i think our expectations for final fantasy have dropped so low that basically we feel a feeling of surprise when a game that is somewhat decent comes out.

i doubt it will top FF4, 6-10. And 11 doesn't really count imo