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Re: [PC] Trainer and Debug Tool - Ochu (3.4)
« Reply #225 on: 2018-08-02 19:44:59 »
Anyone else?

Works fine for me.

It's not a virus. If it were, don't you think thousands of people would be here complaining?

--  Seems to be Google up to their old tricks from what I can see.  Their awful automation.
« Last Edit: 2018-08-02 22:13:39 by DLPB »

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Re: [PC] Trainer and Debug Tool - Ochu (3.4)
« Reply #226 on: 2018-08-06 11:44:10 »
I am sure most Antivirus software would flag this as a possible virus,  its doing memory injection and that is often used by viruses.

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Re: [PC] Trainer and Debug Tool - Ochu (3.4)
« Reply #227 on: 2018-08-06 16:43:40 »
Google has taken the best part of a year or more to block it. It's shoddy and annoying for a company to decide what is and isn't a virus based on whether it changes memory or not.  And in this case, it's likely being flagged because it has upx compression on the exe.

I shouldn't have to password protect my files to stop Google's lazy detection.

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Re: [PC] Trainer and Debug Tool - Ochu (3.4)
« Reply #228 on: 2018-08-15 18:43:17 »
Hey DLPB

everytime i try to use you Ochu ff7 trainer, my AVG thinks its a virus and puts in the Quarantine

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Re: [PC] Trainer and Debug Tool - Ochu (3.4)
« Reply #229 on: 2018-08-15 18:58:24 »
Tell your AV that is isn't and remove from quarantine.

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Re: [PC] Trainer and Debug Tool - Ochu (3.4)
« Reply #230 on: 2018-08-15 20:48:01 »
Game trainers are notorious for false positives in antivirus software because they edit memory. Heck, even Cheat Engine sometimes gets flagged, and it's really well known software that should be getting a pass from AV manufacturers by now.

You'll notice it gets flagged with some sort of "GEN." or "Generic" name by AVG. This means it was caught by what is called "heuristic" detection. In other words, rather than recognizing a specific virus, trojan, or other malware, it sees that it behaves similarly to a virus, so it assumes it must be one. This is simply not the case, but in the modern antivirus world there's really no way to prevent these false positives.

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Re: [PC] Trainer and Debug Tool - Ochu (3.4)
« Reply #231 on: 2018-08-23 00:18:04 »
AV softwares are notorious for flagging ANY software that they haven't reviewed personally as a virus.  It's a simplistic approach and annoying for any developer trying to build small homebrew tools like this.

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Re: [PC] Trainer and Debug Tool - Ochu (3.4)
« Reply #232 on: 2018-08-24 13:58:52 »
AV softwares are notorious for flagging ANY software that they haven't reviewed personally as a virus.  It's a simplistic approach and annoying for any developer trying to build small homebrew tools like this.
That is not true Av software doesn't flag any software they dont review as a virus. Read Covarr explanation as to why this is often flaged as a virus. Don't Spread FUD.

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Re: [PC] Trainer and Debug Tool - Ochu (3.4)
« Reply #233 on: 2018-08-24 16:36:32 »
In this case it's because of the UPX compression.  And google has flagged anything using upx as a virus.  Cause they're stupid.

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Re: [PC] Trainer and Debug Tool - Ochu (3.4)
« Reply #234 on: 2018-08-26 04:48:59 »
Some antiviruses DO flag non-reviewed EXEs... As I've seen with many of my custom tools I've built over the years:

https://github.com/PKISharp/win-acme/issues/28

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33998715/visual-studio-2015-community-trojan-heur-qvm03-0-malware-gen
« Last Edit: 2018-08-26 04:52:07 by codemann8 »