Author Topic: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods and Modding Tool - The Reunion (19th October)  (Read 1403308 times)

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4550 on: 2019-04-29 11:56:13 »
I looked on Crisis Core and there Sephiroth does sound more like "He, he, he,...", but looking on other games translations there does lough even the great Fou-Lu with "Ha,ha... ha, ha,ha,". Things would be easier, if the font would allow cursive characters just to indicate a connection between Sephiroth and Cloud.
Sure it's a shame that this can't be transported into the English translation, it is on the other hand not a huge lost since there enough other obvious connections.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4551 on: 2019-04-30 01:10:10 »
I finally got round to finishing off the Submarine text replacement.  I had to create the numbers also.  A lot of hassle tonight but got it ALL done.  Just got to set X Y in the text file now.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PnDADoOVfwgC6n_zLiCRf9ApwH0sLxiw/view?usp=sharing


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#SUBMARINE TEXT#

#Default Char data (Width,Height,offsetX,offsetY)
#Do not change this data unless you know what you are doing.

[CHAR DATA]
A = 19,21,00,00
B = 18,21,19,00
C = 18,21,38,00
D = 20,21,57,00
E = 17,21,77,00
F = 17,21,95,00
G = 21,21,112,00
H = 21,21,133,00
I = 11,21,155,00
J = 14,21,167,00
K = 21,21,182,00
L = 17,21,204,00
M = 25,21,223,00
N = 20,21,00,22
O = 20,21,20,22
P = 16,21,41,22
Q = 20,23,58,22
R = 19,21,79,22
S = 14,21,99,22
T = 18,21,114,22
U = 19,21,132,22
V = 20,21,152,22
W = 25,21,172,22
X = 19,21,198,22
Y = 19,21,218,22
Z = 17,21,238,22
0 = 14,21,0,48
1 = 12,21,17,48
2 = 14,21,32,48
3 = 14,21,48,48
4 = 15,21,64,48
5 = 14,21,80,48
6 = 15,21,96,48
7 = 14,21,112,48
8 = 15,21,128,48
9 = 15,21,144,48
/ = 11,21,160,48
? = 13,21,176,48
Space = 6
NewLine = 50

#Use + for new line
#Use < to move a character further left
#Use > to move a character further right

#PAUSE
[0]
Text = P<<A<<USE+0123456789099
Xpos = 1
Ypos = 12
Colour = 5

#TIMELIMIT
[1]
Text = OUT OF TIME
Xpos = 122
Ypos = 122
Colour = 1

#TARGET
[2]
Text = T<<AR<GETS
Xpos = 122
Ypos = 122
Colour = 1

#SCORE
[3]
Text = SCORE
Xpos = 1
Ypos = 1
Colour = 1

#MISSION COMPLETE
[4]
Text = MISSION+COMPLETE
Xpos = 122
Ypos = 122
Colour = 1

#MISSION INCOMPLETE
[5]
Text = MISSION+INCOMPLETE
Xpos = 122
Ypos = 122
Colour = 1

#QUIT?
[6]
Text = QUIT?
Xpos = 122
Ypos = 122
Colour = 1

#TARGET NUMBER 1
[7]
Xpos = 50
Ypos = 50
Colour = 1

#TARGET NUMBER 2
[8]
Xpos = 100
Ypos = 100
Colour = 1

#TARGET SLASH
[9]
Text = /
Xpos = 150
Ypos = 150
Colour = 1

#SCORE NUMBER
[10]
Xpos = 200
Ypos = 200
Colour = 1


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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4552 on: 2019-04-30 15:16:46 »
Ok, now i'm impressed

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4553 on: 2019-05-01 23:52:45 »
Ok, now i'm impressed

I'm surprised that this is the thing that made you impressed - I'm constantly in awe at how this mod has developed over the years!

Great job DLPB!

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4554 on: 2019-05-02 15:56:28 »
Hi DLPB,

See mds5_m, text 2:

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“You could live forever in a place
  like this and you still wouldn’t
  make enough money.”
{NEW PAGE}
“Well,how about buyin’ some
  materia,already?”
{NEW PAGE}
“I’m gonna make me some dough,
  then get the hell out of this hole.”

The first sentence doesn't make much sense I think. The character is complaining about his miserable life in the suburbs and his lack of money, so the proper sentence should be:

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No matter how much money you have,
this is a horrible place to live in.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4555 on: 2019-05-02 17:21:25 »
But the meaning is: no matter how long you live in the slums, you won't get enough money for a good life. In other words it's a bad place to get rich.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4556 on: 2019-05-02 17:23:59 »
The sentence makes perfect sense.  The meaning is the same but far more natural.

No matter how much money you have,
this is a horrible place to live in.

Is ultra literal.

Also, I know I keep repeating this but...  there is no point bringing up dialogue corrections or recommendations until R07 is out... none of this is finalized - although that line likely won't be changed at all ;)  8-)
« Last Edit: 2019-05-02 17:25:37 by DLPB »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4557 on: 2019-05-02 18:06:31 »
Ok. In the Spanish translation we tried to use literal and easy-grasp sentences given that the game is aimed for teenagers.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4558 on: 2019-05-02 21:25:30 »
The game was "marketed" for teenagers back in the late 90's. Most mod users today are going to be those same people who want to relive the experience and enhance it to where it should have been on release. Dumbing down or simplifying the dialogue because you are trying to meet a "target audiance" is a disservice to yourself and the game.

The subtle nuansces between what you and DLBP have is enough to destroy the information that the scene is portraying. The purpose of that line in particular is to hammer home the fact that above the plate is so much better than under it that its nearly impossible to "move up in the world"

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4559 on: 2019-05-02 22:47:21 »
The game has cross dressing, death, war, stabbings, violence, tits, and numerous characters with higher than usual language skills (Hojo, Bugenhagen, Staniv, Chekhov spring to mind) and various characters who have a completely different dialect .  Changing dialogue because teenagers are too stupid(?) to understand natural dialogue isn't a good idea and I'd certainly suggest not ever doing that. 
« Last Edit: 2019-05-02 22:50:17 by DLPB »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4560 on: 2019-05-03 15:16:29 »
Game was marketed to teenager, but was more profound than most films marketed to adults at the time

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4561 on: 2019-05-03 23:51:49 »
Q. Will The Reunion work with X?
A. I don't take any interest in other mods, so I don't know.

This needs to go to the 7th Heaven area.
« Last Edit: 2019-05-03 23:57:16 by DLPB »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4562 on: 2019-05-04 00:46:02 »
Hello all, I'm running Windows 10, 64bit, and a fresh install of the steam version of FF7 and am trying to install The Reunion, but the screen that opens shows Sephiroth, I click next, then my window cuts off the installer and no longer works. I tried tabbing to select an entry but it just sends me back to the intro screen, leaving me forever stuck in a loop from hell. Anyone run into this before?

« Last Edit: 2019-05-04 00:54:50 by placeboblack »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4563 on: 2019-05-04 02:30:06 »
Edit: Response moved to new thread
« Last Edit: 2019-05-04 14:25:15 by LordUrQuan »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4564 on: 2019-05-04 02:34:48 »
Hello all, I'm running Windows 10, 64bit, and a fresh install of the steam version of FF7 and am trying to install The Reunion, but the screen that opens shows Sephiroth, I click next, then my window cuts off the installer and no longer works. I tried tabbing to select an entry but it just sends me back to the intro screen, leaving me forever stuck in a loop from hell. Anyone run into this before?


My guess is that you are using a high DPI screen and have scaling turned on. Try right-clicking on the desktop, choose Display Settings, and then scroll down a bit until you see Scale and Layout. See if you have a scaling percent above 100%. If so, turn it down to 100% until you finish the install.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4565 on: 2019-05-04 04:22:37 »
My guess is that you are using a high DPI screen and have scaling turned on. Try right-clicking on the desktop, choose Display Settings, and then scroll down a bit until you see Scale and Layout. See if you have a scaling percent above 100%. If so, turn it down to 100% until you finish the install.

That was it! Had to sign out of windows for the fix to work - thank you so much!

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4566 on: 2019-05-04 05:28:28 »
That was it! Had to sign out of windows for the fix to work - thank you so much!
Just as a future note, if you ever have an issue with games that appear cut off in the bottom right corner, it's also due to scaling. You always have the option to just leave scaling at 100%, or you can set scaling compatibility by right-clicking on the game you're trying to run, hit Properties, then Compatibility, and finally 'Change High DPI Settings'. Messing around with the options in there usually fixes weird display issues when using scaling.
« Last Edit: 2019-05-04 05:31:45 by Melancholy »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4567 on: 2019-05-04 10:12:50 »
With this MOVED topic in section... for a moment I though was out. Baby Jesus Christ.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4568 on: 2019-05-05 17:13:00 »
DLPB: I received a comment saying they felt like the Enemy Attack that is currently translated as "The Emperor" (official) or "The Pope" (Beacause) should really be "The Heirophant". If you want more details, let me know. I doubt you are still entertaining ideas on changes anymore, but just FYI.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4569 on: 2019-05-05 20:24:47 »
That was changed ages ago ;)  Always check The Reunion Database.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4570 on: 2019-05-06 11:43:33 »
Where is "The Reunion Database"?

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4571 on: 2019-05-06 13:39:16 »
There's a link to it near the top of the first post.   :wink:
« Last Edit: 2019-05-06 14:06:45 by DLPB »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4572 on: 2019-05-06 16:27:35 »
Thanks for adding that link!

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4573 on: 2019-05-06 17:57:09 »
I've had a lazy weekend and bank holiday Monday.  I need to get my mojo back and sort this out. I probably need to terminate my Internet connection as that's the source of most of my interruptions.

I'll get it done.  I've brought down bigger men than you, Picard.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4574 on: 2019-05-07 00:12:29 »
Let's hope we get a release before 2020. We'll need the distraction, if you take my meaning. ;P