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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3100 on: 2016-10-05 05:40:54 »
Dan, please don't kill me, but I have to for this one... I'm sorryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.  :'(

"I really wanted to play out with everyone, but you never asked me to join you."

You mean "play with everyone"...?

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3101 on: 2016-10-05 07:02:12 »
Nope. Meant "play out". I'm not sure how common that is in America, but either are fine here :)

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3102 on: 2016-10-05 08:38:28 »
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3103 on: 2016-10-05 08:44:44 »
I prefer my stick with a real sheep head on it.  Found both while out on a walk with family. But Pink Floyd are one of the best.  8-)

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3104 on: 2016-10-05 15:30:25 »
Nope. Meant "play out". I'm not sure how common that is in America, but either are fine here :)
In the US, "play out" generally only means like at live performances... "Play him out" and then the music starts playing and the dude gets off the stage. We might say "go out and play", but probably just "play" would be way more common here.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3105 on: 2016-10-05 16:59:50 »
Yeah I haven't heard anyone use "play out" like that in North America, likely a regional thing

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3106 on: 2016-10-05 17:49:48 »
I concur.  "Play out" isn't used that way in America.. how we use it is more like what Covarr said.

Case in point, where Bill O'Reilly ATTEMPTS to have a clip of Sting play out his show, lmao..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_HyZ5aW76c

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3107 on: 2016-10-05 21:47:15 »
Yeah but that clip is "to play us out" not "to play out with someone" - which is different.  To play us out means to end the show with a song (and it's normal he may have found that sounding odd. It's only natural when you've heard numerous presenters say it). To be honest I always try to avoid "play with" because it sounds like some sort of sexual contact hahaha.

"I wanted to play with you"  haw haw.

It may be better as "I wanted to hang out with you all".  The problem here is I was trying to make it sound like a child speaking...  but I guess it's older Cloud anyway so hang out might be better.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3108 on: 2016-10-05 22:01:57 »
Yeah but that clip is "to play us out" not "to play out with someone" - which is different.
The latter expression literally does not exist in North America. The closest we have is either "play us out", which as you said is completely different, or "play outside" which specifies a location and probably isn't what you want.

To be honest I always try to avoid "play with" because it sounds like some sort of sexual contact hahaha.
Not for younger children, and certainly not with groups.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3109 on: 2016-10-05 22:08:09 »
Oh I know it's not.  It just sounds odd because age has corrupted me.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3110 on: 2016-10-05 22:22:25 »
Edit:
Submarine controls...
X should say reverse.

You currently have X saying retreat, which doesn't make sense since a vehicle goes in reverse, not retreats.

http://imgur.com/a/3DhpI

After winning the mini-game, Cid disappears from his seat completely.
« Last Edit: 2016-10-05 22:33:35 by WatashiWaZero »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3111 on: 2016-10-05 22:41:52 »
Advance and Retreat are perfectly acceptable.

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=advance+retreat

As I've repeated 3 times, it's best you do not bring up localization choices as bug reports (in this case it's v likely exactly what the Japanese intends regardless). This isn't an issue.  Only specific terms that do not work in American English need to be reported.

You know what I'm gonna say for the second issue :P Separate thread.  It's not a Reunion issue(?) - but clearly it needs fixing.

« Last Edit: 2016-10-05 23:07:02 by DLPB »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3112 on: 2016-10-05 23:52:48 »
You know what I'm gonna say for the second issue :P Separate thread.  It's not a Reunion issue(?) - but clearly it needs fixing.

First of all, I PMed White about it already.  Secondly, not sure if this issue is related to Reunion or not, or if it only affect the Cid model.  It could affect any other model that sits in the chair.
I honestly didn't test this one properly because I didn't want to keep uninstalling and reinstalling Reunion every time just to confirm if it's a Reunion-only issue or not.  It's a pain in the ass to do so every time just so I can verify the bug and not tilt you any further than I have...  :-\

However...

Just found a game breaking bug with Reunion.  The bug just makes you stuck in battle forever and you can't do anything.  For this bug, I actually tested it quite extensively and made sure it's reproducible.  Already tried to replicate it after uninstalling Reunion, and it doesn't happen when playing vanilla.  If you have Added Attack + Hades and you manage to inflict an enemy with poison, toad, confuse, sleep, the battle freezes.  The game would continue to play music, and you can try to perform any action, but nothing happens.

Here an example of what I mean: https://imgur.com/a/PEzwP

Edit #1:
I can't even force a game over screen during the battle.  It's literally dead...  8-)

Edit #2:
I'm gonna disappear again and may resurface when you release R07.  Honestly too lazy to keep reporting bugs.  :cry:
« Last Edit: 2016-10-06 00:12:10 by WatashiWaZero »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3113 on: 2016-10-06 02:53:36 »
Is this bug above related to 60fps mod? 

Best way to test is to simply copy and paste the main game folder and then install Reunion without models etc.  Simply have different folders for different mods.  It's far easier than keep reinstalling.

So you can have one folder called "original" - no change.  One called "With models"  One called "with 60fps".  When you want to use one, you just rename it to the one the game expects.. in mine that's "FF7".  Steam has a set name I think.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3114 on: 2016-10-06 07:52:49 »
Can confirm it's the 60FPS mod causing the freeze.

Also, seems to me that playing without the 60FPS mod, but simply speeding up the game with Select+R2 works better since you're just speeding up the game rather than duplicating frames.  The game feels just as smooth, but without bugs; not to mention that things like the battle help bar doesn't flicker as much (like a 99% in reduction), if at all.

Edit:
After a bit of testing and tinkering, seems like speeding up the game is a much better option rather than enabling the 60FPS mod. (For me anyway)
Flickering of texts and objects are virtually gone, the battle speed is back to normal(?), and the game feels just as smooth without bugs.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3115 on: 2016-10-06 08:17:17 »
The difference is that the 60fps mod allows a true 60fps for the menu and correct speed for battle.  Without it... you simply have a 4x speed battle.  Tbh this whole approach I've used is a bit shoddy.  I'll see what Dziugo thinks.

It's pretty impressive you've managed to find that error - and also very weird that it should happen under that condition. I assume it may actually be more basic than that too when we get down to it.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3116 on: 2016-10-07 06:21:42 »
http://www.filedropper.com/1033-20h34m48s-accessorystore

So I happened to save it right in front of the store.  Was running around and checking new wares, and noticed that for an accessory shop, they sell mostly weapons...  Pretty sure this is intended right?


That's not "mostly weapons"  - it's all weapons.  This is a mistake that needs correcting in the next release :) Well spotted. Some shops mix items and what not - but others do not.  This one is probably wrong in Japanese too. The text, that is.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3117 on: 2016-10-07 09:29:00 »
I could not see any significant discussion about it (just an allusion to the French version's Mega Materia), but just a nitpick :P

Something that always bothered me is the term "Huge Materia". Maybe it's just my feel of language, but it has a rather mundane sound to it. In any typical Fantasy/Scifi story I'd at least expect something like "Great" or "Grand". Mega sounds a little too playful in English, though.

I find It's even worse in German, where it's just the equivalent to "Big Materia".

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« Reply #3118 on: 2016-10-07 09:47:13 »
Yeah....  it is a rather crap name.  The Japanese probably does use the kanji for "great / big / large" - but at this point it's probably wise not to tinker with it even if there is licence to do so.

edit.

ヒュージマテリア Hyūji Materia

It uses kana - so they definitely wanted it to be "huge". I agree it probably sounds better as "grand" or something. But then this is simply materia that's larger than usual :P
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3119 on: 2016-10-07 10:00:40 »
Eh, okay....it just reminds me of a translation in Shining Force 3, where a tomboy-ish elf girl was more or less given the name "Masculine" in kana. The English translation made Masqurin out of it. Staying close, but with it's own flavor without stating the obvious.  /triviatime

I guess they just like using foreign but obvious names, but I'm just talking out of my ass now.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3120 on: 2016-10-07 10:04:12 »
I guess they just like using foreign but obvious names, but I'm just talking out of my ass now.

Yeah, you see this pretty often in manga. They use words from other languages that sound cool to them, but end up sounding awful to native speakers. The author of Bleach is particularly notorious for it, but he's hardly the only one.

But I guess these are just huge lumps of (raw?) materia, like a waste product from a nuclear reactor.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3121 on: 2016-10-07 10:37:43 »
In other news, I tried that open mouth fix mod and it's not very good because all it does is completely remove the mouth rather than close it.  The result is worse than having open mouths.  If someone can fix that and make the mouths look closed - then I'll add it.  If not, I won't use it.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3122 on: 2016-10-07 14:32:22 »
Isn't that how it was in the original, though?  What if you made it an optional thing that you could check or uncheck in the installer?
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3123 on: 2016-10-07 17:18:40 »
It looks too poor to add it at all. Originally correct mouths were a line. Cloud for example was fine. With this mod even he has no mouth at all.



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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05b)
« Reply #3124 on: 2016-10-07 18:29:14 »
In other news, I tried that open mouth fix mod and it's not very good because all it does is completely remove the mouth rather than close it.  The result is worse than having open mouths.  If someone can fix that and make the mouths look closed - then I'll add it.  If not, I won't use it.

You probably already know this, but Sega Chief made a Mouth Replacer mod that simply swaps open mouths with mouths for the main cast. It looks great, I never play without it.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/dn4ujcbgglxuzj4/FF7+-+Mouth+Replacer.exe