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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4400 on: 2019-02-03 20:21:26 »
IMO Reunion Installer > 7th Heaven, at least in terms of simplicity. The only unrelated mod I am secretly hoping might be considered for adding into the Reunion installer is the hypothetical new version of New Threat that Sega Chief mentioned might use BC as a base for translation with his scripts added over in places as needed. It would be awesome to have a "remix" version of FF7 that still includes all the incredible translation work DLPB, Luksy, and the gang have worked on for so many years.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4401 on: 2019-02-03 20:29:42 »
My mod came long before 7th Heaven.  You aren't hearing me:

First off stop assuming that I just don't understand what you are saying...

My mod has an installer. It works. It isn't my job to make my mod compatible with another mod - or to work around issues with a now totally unsupported older mod that 7th Heaven devs decided to add.  I don't like 7th Heaven either, which is why I am making my own modding solution.

Again I never said your mod didn't work on its own... you don't have to keep repeating that. And actually it is your job to make your mod compatible... Being the mod author that means you are the one that makes changes to the mod... lol not saying you have to make it compatible... you don't have to do anything haha We don't have to use it if we don't like it... blah blah blah Ok now that we are over comparing our egos...

I will repeat as well that I didn't expect you to have support for everything that 7th heaven adds either... just the base installer.... I want to be able have no mods running from 7th heaven and still have your mod working... so I'm guessing you would have to make your installer work on the 7th heaven exe. (More work I get it) Also if you wanted to make your own modding solution that is great assuming it can do everything 7th heaven does and more... if not there is no point... you are just doing work that is already done. Instead of making competition why not work with the small community we have.
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To create a working translation, the menu needs to be edited, as certain text won't fit etc - that's why it currently comes as one mod.

You are also vastly underestimating the work that is needed.  I have my own mod to complete without spending 100s of hours fixing up another install package.

Ok fair enough when it comes to the menu... that completely makes sense. Let me ask you something honestly though.... you are making this mod for people who like ff7 and who want to mod the game.... if 99% of the people who mod this game are using 7th heaven why not just make one installer that works on top of the base 7th heaven exe and require 7th heaven? Thats how most games are modded... there is usually a compatibility patch that makes all versions the same... so that all the modders can have a consistent base game to work off of. Which is what 7th Heaven did... but you are still choosing to mod the base game and screw all the other mods and modders over that are using the compatibility patch... seems selfish...

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4402 on: 2019-02-03 21:25:00 »
IMO Reunion Installer > 7th Heaven, at least in terms of simplicity. The only unrelated mod I am secretly hoping might be considered for adding into the Reunion installer is the hypothetical new version of New Threat that Sega Chief mentioned might use BC as a base for translation with his scripts added over in places as needed. It would be awesome to have a "remix" version of FF7 that still includes all the incredible translation work DLPB, Luksy, and the gang have worked on for so many years.

This is definitely something I'm looking into with Sega Chief when both mods are at a stage where we call them complete.  It may happen sooner than you think ;)

@Opengrip.  It ain't happening.  Move on. I've given my reasons and my position is unlikely to change.  I'm also pursuing my own modding solution for modders and I find it to be much better than what we currently have (for standalone mods, at least).  So time will tell.
« Last Edit: 2019-02-03 21:36:43 by DLPB »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4403 on: 2019-02-04 00:24:35 »
So what exactly in 7th Heaven do I need to disable for this to work? 'Dialog Boxes'? Other things? I don't see any options to play with menus anywhere.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4404 on: 2019-02-04 00:27:19 »
Or, alternatively, how do I get Remako to work without 7th heaven, and the game to run in 1440p?

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4405 on: 2019-02-04 23:28:41 »
Don't know about 1440p but I took Kaldarasha's advice in the remako thread and basically did this:

Installed Reunion R05c
made a backup of FF7_en.exe
Installed 7th Heaven
ran the game converter
(Here's where it gets confusing and I'm not sure what I'm doing...)
I copied every file that Reunion changed (figured it out by what's in the Backup Reunion file) and moved them to "Final Fantasy VII/mods/textures"
Changed FF7_opengl.cfg's modpath to read "modpath = textures" and turn "direct_mode = on"(I had to do the latter so my mods loaded at all)
Opened up 7th Heaven and made the exe path direct to my backup exe which I also renamed to FF7.exe from FF7_eng.exe (idk if that specifically is important or not?)
Mounted the CD image using virtual clonedrive
Also changed my opengl settings thru 7H to the recommended in remako install guide

Doing it this way I was able to have access to the latest version of Reunion, Remako and any mod on 7th Heaven I want besides the Menu Overhaul sadly.
My only issue right now is that sometimes the text in the dialogue boxes don't fit, usually when Cloud is prompted to choose a response. Pretty sure it's not like this in vanilla R05 so it's something I messed up somehow.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4406 on: 2019-02-05 12:40:12 »
Hi,

Can you please take this issue to the 7th Heaven section as this is not related to my installer or project?


Thanks :)

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4407 on: 2019-02-09 02:44:11 »
Hello. Is a full Beacause script is available somewhere? There are a couple lines I realized I want to see the real translation of, but I don't want to play through the whole game for the 20th time just to see them lol.

In any case thanks for everything you folks do!

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4408 on: 2019-02-10 10:25:35 »
I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but is this mod using, for the audio improvement, the revamped ost done in 2013 by FBX?

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4409 on: 2019-02-10 19:30:14 »
Nah - it's using my own - the original OST with improvements to loops and so on.  But you can put any in it.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4410 on: 2019-02-13 07:53:50 »
Nah - it's using my own - the original OST with improvements to loops and so on.  But you can put any in it.

Improvements to loop points? Do tell please.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4411 on: 2019-02-13 16:39:30 »
DLPB's tracks should loop seamlessly where other versions often don't.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4412 on: 2019-02-14 00:55:39 »
Improvements to loop points? Do tell please.

Listen to the music in the Nibelheim Mansion, first on PS1, then on PC version, without mods. That's one difference. The PC version is faulty :) there's also a major looping issue when you watch the full Cloud's flashback in Disc 2, at the end, when the music changes to the World Map music, but it loops differently. The PC version ignores that difference though.
« Last Edit: 2019-02-14 00:58:20 by Cicciolo »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] Multiple mods - The Reunion (R05c)
« Reply #4413 on: 2019-02-14 05:08:28 »
Has anyone tested whether or not Reunion is compatible with the Remako mod? https://captrobau.blogspot.com/2019/01/ff7-remako-hd-graphics-mod-beta-released.html