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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #450 on: 2014-10-23 01:30:55 »
Oh, you're right. I must have tampered with them when I was putting the new items in; I've added it to the next scene.bin patch I'm working on.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #451 on: 2014-10-23 08:30:27 »
EDIT:

Okay, I was worried something got screwed up with Vincent's sidequest but I forgot the trigger the "second event" with Lucrecia you have to fight 10 random battles. So all is good and I have all Oversoul Shards now.

EDIT 2:

Okay, a new weird thing is happening. I can't make Tyrant.

It says I need 1 Red Crystal, 3 Megalixirs and 1 Behemoth Horn. I have the Red Crystal from the super-Movers or whatever they were called, I have 11 Megalixirs from all across the game and I have 1 Behemoth Horn from Morphing the Behemoth King in North Crater. (or King Behemoth, whichever it was named)

Is the Red Crystal supposed to be an item or Key Item? It's only an item for me. Maybe I'll try to get an extra Behemoth Horn.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #452 on: 2014-10-23 14:28:02 »
Yeah, I messed up. I reduced the item requirements for most of the monsters, but that particular one slipped the net. The text says 1x Behemoth Horn but the game is still checking for 3. It'll be fixed for the next patch.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #453 on: 2014-10-23 17:37:48 »
Ohhhh yeah! Nemesis is toast! All that is left for optional bosses (that I know of) are:
Tyrant
Kalm Traveler boss for the Desert Rose
Mammon Machine

Didn't you say there was a special boss you haven't seen anyone face? Where is he/she? Let me at 'em!

Honestly I probably fought Nemmy in the dumbest way. The only person doing any real damage was Aerith with W-Magic Comet2. Cloud and Yuffie sometimes jumped in with 4xCut but that barely amounted to 4-5,000 a piece so...yeah, Aerith with her 1,500 or so per hit twice every turn was the only way I could have won there. Only used one Megalixiri too so I'm proud of myself for that.

Is Armageddon a "every so many turns" move? I interpreted it as a "you've chippped away so much health" thing but I wasn't really basing that off anything. i just kept thinking "okay, he's used it once, he's 25% dead...okay he used it again, now he's half-way dead..." I guess I just needed that because, you know, I had no idea how outmatched I was or not and if I was actually getting anywhere close to killing him.

I do have to admit though,  Carmine was kinda disappointingly easy. I beat it in about...6 minutes? On my first attempt no less.  I guess Omnislash helped but even still, Cloud's regular physical attacks (with Mastered Elemental Lightning equipped) did about 5K-6K per cut.

I'm feeling really good right now though, hehe.

But since I have to get those two extra Behemoth Horns anyway, I think it's time I start some more AP grinding. I haven't leveled up Qudra Magic or Mastered W-Magic or anything. Definitely going to want at least 2 or 3 of that. W-Item too maybe.

EDIT:

Wait, what's supposed to happen with the Chocobo boss? I waled on it forever and it just ran away... I don't think that was supposed to happen?
« Last Edit: 2014-10-23 19:13:23 by Nikkolas »

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #454 on: 2014-10-23 19:47:05 »
Nemesis isn't the best; I basically had this idea to recreate the boss (attacks, AI, etc.) of the same name from FFX's monster arena but it's a bit one-dimensional with it's attack pattern. The stats were originally the same too but I figured I should just drop them if I was putting in a level-cap, etc.

Carmine is probably easier than the original Emerald Weapon because of the reduced stats, save for the Gravity immunity so that's not much surprise. I didn't really make an attempt to start tinkering around with his AI but one of these days I'll sit down and see what I can do with it, maybe make a new variant of it for some new content somewhere. Glad to see you using elements though, that's something I want people to be considering in their set-up, along with statuses.

The Chocobo just starts with high stats but you can adjust those stats by feeding it different types of greens (and it resets a counter for M.A.D Breath whenever it's fed). Why, was he broken or was it just fairly easy to fight through it?


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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #455 on: 2014-10-23 20:15:03 »
Well it was a tough fight in a sense that none of the Greens I tried did a lick of good in terms of hitting the damned thing. I had to just spam magic and when I got Cloud's or Yuffie's Limits up I'd use whichever green lowered its Defense/raised Attack.  Then I'd use the other Green that raised Defense/lowered Attack after I got my Limits off. All I know is I got off two Omnislashes and 2 Doom of the Livings (with Omnislash doing 2K per hit and Doom doing about 600 per hit) plus Aerith's magic must have done....uh, I dunno, 100K? i used a lot of Turbo Ethers on her.

Anyway, was I supposed to be able to kill the thing? How much HP does it have? I didn't think it would run away but I guess the last Greens I threw to it went faster than the others maybe?

Also yeah I saw what you were going for with the mod's Nemesis being like FFX's. I thought it was a pretty cool fight. Armageddon is a helluva move if you aren't healed up and ready for it.  Plus you need  Ribbons to survive Ultra Spark and that makes  it a bit harder since it means you won't have Accessories to boost stats or anything.

Although I forgot to mention - Cait Sith's sidequest? That was both hilarious and awesome. It was also one of the harder optional bosses.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #456 on: 2014-10-23 20:37:46 »
Oh, right; that's normal then. When he dies, he uses the 'run away' animation that Chocobos usually use when they've been hit. I thought you meant he was doing something unusual, like not attacking or something. Each Green will raise a stat, but lower another one so it sounds like his physical defence was quite high but his Magical defence was quite low. At the start (pre-greens) all his stats are generally high.

But it seems like I need to get this next wave of stuff finished. I'll make a second bracket for the Junon Leagues and get this Keystone Disc 3 thing finished. Someone suggested Dark Summons (like FFX's Dark Aeons) on the YT channel so that'll probably take some form soon.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #457 on: 2014-10-24 06:32:39 »
Wow the Keystone, Leagues, and Dark Aeons stuff sounds neat.

What's the mammoth machine, is that something new?

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #458 on: 2014-10-24 07:48:02 »
The Mammon Machine is the boss guarding Knights of the Round. 

I just kicked its ass too. Thank God I decided to go and finish up the Extra Battle bosses first. I got a Wizard Staff from Tyrant that allowed Aerith to get 2K per hit in Comet2. She was dealing 36K per turn. So awesome. I used up a few of my Megalixirs but oh well, I still have 4 more, plus 20 regular Elixirs. With W-Item now, that should be more than enough. I was worried there at the end of the fight when it said it was approaching limit since I assumed it would do some crazy damage technique that we could not survive, even with Wall or Shield. I was going to use my two Gospel Sparks but then Aerith was kind enough to win the fight before it could use the limit.

BTW, does Tyrant give any more rewards? First fight I got Red's Magic +30 weapon, second fight I got Gospel Spark and third fight was the Wizard Staff. Fought him about four or five more times and got nothing else. Was hoping to get a Magic +30 weapon for Cloud or Yuffie.

Speaking of KOTR though...um, is it supposed to kill me? I tried to use it on the Midgar Zolom because every fight up to this point the thing has just immediately ended the fight by ejecting my party.  I wanted to try and kill it at last. Only I killed myself with my Sneak Attack KOTR.

Anyway, I too would love Dark Aeons. Hell, I'd love just a New Game + feature. That woud give me more incentive to keep playing the mod even after I beat the game.

So I think that does it for optional bosses, right?
Viridian Weapon - Beaten
Carmine Weapon - Beaten
All Extra Battle Bosses - Beaten
Al Kalm Traveler Bosses - Beaten
All Materia Cave Bosses - Beaten

All that's left is the final bosses, right? I'm pumped!!!

EDIT:

Wait, was it the Hero Medal you said earlier that I needed for the "secret ending"? You advised me to get a couple of them right? For NG+? I could probably do that. Be easier now with W-Item and stuff.

EDIT 2:

I now have 2 Hero Medals. I might go for a third but I can't see me doing any more than that. Don't be too hard on yourself - Nemesis is no pushover as a superboss for this mod. The fight is long and intense and you constantly need to watch out. Even with Ultra Spark's status ailments gone thanks to Ribbon, it will bring you down to just too little HP to survive Armageddon.

The new equipment I got from the Mammon Machine is helping a lot though. Mystile or something like that? Whatever it is, a lot of Nemesis' attacks miss now. The Minerva Band also seems to help Yuffie dodge it on occasion. Cloud though, he always gets hit and even if all he ot hit by was one Ultra Spark, it takes him to 100 Hp too little to survive Armageddon.

It's a pretty awesome fight. You have to keep on your toes.

EDIT 3:

Looking at this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbGPS9bGmzo

He seems to do way more damage. That Cannon move only does like 2K or so on me, maybe 3.  Then again, the fight seems to go way quicker for the LP'er than it does for me.  Plus he has like, thousands more HP than I do. lol

EDIT 4:

Do you know if Nemesis gets stronger each time you fight him? Because holy hell, he will not stop killing Cloud now. I have not changed Cloud's equipment at all that I know of... Maybe one or two Materia I removed made all the difference but before Cloud could survive Armageddon, now he cannot. I'll have to look into this. I was trying to make my own video but it ended up being just an epically long failure.

EDIT 5:

Got my 3rd Hero Medal and made a video of it! A half-an-hour long! 6 GB! And that was half-sized in Fraps.... But yeah, long fight. I guess that just means I really suck. I don't know what made Cloud die easier on my third attempt but I remedied the situation by saying screw it to the Gigas Armlet. I didn't want to get rid of it because it had Str + 30 but I wanted to test out the Escort Guard. Well, no longer was Armageddon doing 6600 to Cloud. Now it only did 4900 or so. Plus losing 30 points of Str didn't hurt as much as I thought it would. Cloud only did like, 100 less damage per slash. So...yeah, gonna stick with the EG from now on.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #459 on: 2014-10-24 14:02:33 »
Those youtube videos that I uploaded were from the older version 1.1, that's why my party had tons of HP until Sega put in the curve. Sounds like you made awesome progress :> . If you have the hero medal(s) in your inventory, you should be able to save right after the Safer boss fight, that's when you know you triggered the "ending".


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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #460 on: 2014-10-24 15:30:41 »
Like LCP says, some of his playthrough stuff is from 1.1 which had a few differences:
-) No level cap
-) Plus Materia available (HP Plus, etc.)
-) Sources available (actually easier to get)
-) Different Monster strength (some weaker, some stronger)

The goal of 1.2 was to make a challenging curve that holds from the start to the bottom of the Crater, but I also took out the Plus Materia (save for MP Plus) and Sources so I could introduce them later if needed. Same thing with certain pieces of armor; the Shinra Alpha, Ziedrich, Imperial Guard, and Aegis Armlet were pushed back so there'd be something to nab for either NG+ or the lengthier sidequests I want to make.

Here's the drop list for the Extra Battle and some other roulettes; mind that the way item drops work is that it checks each one in ascending order, so the lower down ones are less likely as the items above them have to 'fail' to drop first:

Proud Clod/Asimov
-) Ragnarok (16)
-) God's Hand (16)
-) Spirit Lance (16)

Hojo Lifeform/Calamity
-) Umbrella 8
-) Behemoth Horn 8
-) Starlight Phone 8
-) Oritsuru 8

Variablis
-) Fire Ring (16)
-) Ice Ring (16)
-) Bolt Ring (16)
-) Guardian Ring (16)

Love Buster
-) Curse Ring (16)
-) Reflect Ring (16)
-) Protect Ring (16)
-) Relic Ring (16)
Morph: Pile Banger

Abyss
-) Ribbon (32)
Morph: Oversoul Shard

Nycta Dragon
-) SS-Mine (16)
-) Magic Shuriken (16)
-) Outsider (16)
Morph: Oversoul Shard

Tyrant
-) Gospel Spark (16)
-) Spring Gun Clip (16)
-) Wizard Staff (16)
Morph: Oversoul Shard

Seems like you've killed pretty much everything; there's still the Junon League to try out though, that's accessed from the Beginner's Hall in Junon by talking to the two soldiers in black down there. It's only one bracket and should be fairly easy to sweep through with enough firepower (I think they all only have about roughly 10kHP each), but it rewards some of the new attack items like SS-Mines and Fletch Rockets.

As far as the NG+ goes, I'm going to re-do every enemy in the game with a different colour, name, and move-set but besides that I'm setting up a pared down scenario for progressing through the game that cuts out most of the story; the player starts in the Sector 7 bar, Meteor has been summoned, and you have to get from there to the Crater is the basic gist. The first goal of that would be finding the 'Key to Sector 5' key-item to get out of that door close to the Church and leave Midgar. This would be the last addition to the mod, though; I've a bunch of other stuff to do first. That said, the prototype for Midgar is currently working; maybe a demo soon? :p

But yeah, for the secret fight all you need is one Hero Medal in the inventory; these'll have a consumable effect in NG+ so having more than one isn't a waste. I'll actually need to set up a save point for AFTER the last boss fight (both versions) so that it transitions easier into the NG+; I think teleporting to a repurposed Debug room might be the key, makes it much easier for the two flevels to pass the baton if the player has to be on one particular field to transition across. That room + save will be in the next update, I'll try and get that done quick.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #461 on: 2014-10-24 18:46:14 »
Ugh, I'm definitely going to need to buff my secondary party members... I've ever done this whole thing with Bizarro Sephiroth and while I was able to kill some parts of him, I didn't know the strategy to it until I looked it up. Killing both Arm Parts and then the Core Parts  isn't easy and means my Level 50 other teams around for a while and none of them can survive anything. Well maybe one attack, barely....


I didn't want to grind Limits. It's boring as shit. But it doesn't look like I have much choice. The only way any of them are going to be able to win is with Level 4 Limits. I have some Mastered Comet and Ultima too but, again, they're all weak as hell.

Do you know how much HP you gave the Core Parts?

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #462 on: 2014-10-24 20:03:50 »
It's a surprisingly tough fight when all three parties have to get involved; perfect template for a future super-boss, eh?  :wink:

Anyways, this is the low-down on Bizarro/Pinnacle:

-) Torso: 80,000HP + 60,000HP if KOTR was used during Jenova-SYNTHESIS fight.
-) Head: 16,000HP
-) Core: 35,000HP
-) Arms: 20,000HP

That's consistent across all forms and variants. The way it goes is usually this:

Starts off with centre party. They have to kill a part to move to the other two teams, generally best to go for either an Arm or the Head and focusing damage. Game then prompts to transition to another party (careful not to pick the wrong option!)

Your Left and Right parties are uneven, as one party only has two people. The two-man team should be beefier than the three-party team to try and compensate for that. The goal of the Left and Right teams is to expose their side of the Core and destroy it; to do that, they have to kill the Arm which protects it. However, the Head will revive the Arm so the sequence for Left/Right Party is:
1) Head
2) Arm parts
3) Core

When their Core-side is destroyed, try to swap to your other team and do the same thing there. The Two-Party team is fighting less targets if memory serves. When both Core Sides were destroyed, try and swap over to the centre team. If the game swaps you to the wrong team (I'm not sure how it decides, might be a cycle or set-pattern) then usually the Head will revive for you to destroy and get the swap prompt again.

Finally, Centre Team has to destroy both Arms to reveal the Core. The head will revive at intervals in this one, so it's best to ignore it and focus on getting that Core wrecked. Once it's gone, you're on the home straight to wreck the Torso.

...or alternatively start Centre team with Aeris, she uses Planet Protector or Great Gospel for the Peerless/Invincible status, then let rip with KOTR+MP Turbo on W-Summon. That works too.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #463 on: 2014-10-25 11:48:02 »
I actually tried that KOTR strategy but my game kept freezing every time it tried to complete the summon animation. Dunno why.

But anyway....

PROOF OF SUCCESS!!!!
http://i.imgur.com/kDkcJfw.png

I didn't need to go grind Limits or anything! That was what was really killing me. i was SO CLOSE to finishing the game and I didn't want to head all the way back just to grind for an entire day.

But with some creative use of my Materia, I pulled it off. For one thing, I now have a new appreciation for Quadra Magic. I mastered it once but it didn't seem very useful. Ultima is massively depowered per use so maybe you come away with a 1000 extra damage but so what? HOWEVER, even when it was equipped to a weakling like Cait Sith or Tifa, Quadra Magic Ultima did 1500 a shot. So even they could not do almost 8000 damage a turn.  Yet this led to more anxiety on my part. Since I had dismissed it as useless, I only had one mastered QM. For a time I tried using it on Team 2 but that wasn't working. I ended up just giving Cait Sith Ultima to do a pitiful 2000 or so a turn while Cid did at least some damage with his Rocket Jump Limit Break - about 3000 or so. He was nice enough to get it all the time thugh so that helped. Then I gave Vincent a Circlet and one of my Mastered Comet Materias to be the main damage dealer in Team 2 and once you get every other part out of the way, Comet2 will wreck the Core.

For my two person team I kept trying with Barret because he has more HP than Tifa but theN i recalled Tifa also had one of her Defense Weapons, God's Hand.  I ended up giving Tifa my Mastered QM while Red got a W-SUmmon. That way he can start the fight with Bahamut ZERO and Typhon. Together they pretty much kill all the parts. At most it takes one more attack. I used those Magical Ashes or something I got from the Mammon Machine.  Once all the parts were down, I repeated my strategy from Team 2 and used Comet2 to obliterate the Core when it was unprotected.

It sounds so simple and easy yet it sure wasn't. So many failures and rearranging of materia to figure out this....

I was worried about Safer because none of us had Barrier Materia to protect against Mega Nova and I DID NOT want to have to go through that previous fight again.  I ended up using one of my Gospel Sparks on Aerith just to be safe. Needn't have worried though, it did only about 2K, maybe 3K damage. And he died immediately after using it.

Phew....I did it! I'm very happy. 
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #464 on: 2014-10-25 16:40:54 »
Sounds great! One of the things I want from this mod is for it to encourage people to get more into the game's mechanics and try different things; it sounds like Comet2 is a bit OP seeing as I have it 6 hits instead of 4 but seeing as it loses a lot of it's effectiveness against multiple targets/groups I think I can live with that. A problem with Safer is that it would really suck to lose there after going through Bizarro, but it's one of those things where a save point between them would utterly break the tension.

KOTR (and other multi-hit spells) can freeze the game when used against a multi-target enemy with I think HP/MP Drain attached to it. Or was it only when it was attached to Quadra and HP/MP Drain? I forget.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #465 on: 2014-10-29 23:41:56 »
So found a few interesting things last night to report in:
 - Peace Rings from the first version of the Battle Arena are listed at 4,000 points but actually cost 8,000.
 - Those goblin dudes at Gongaga are little bastards. >_>
 - Lambda Calcule is confusing. I imagine this is by design, but I'm worried I screwed up and missed out on something.
 - Vincent... Well... http://www.twitch.tv/potatohandle/c/5394779 (Warning: Nibelheim spoilers.)
 - I believe the new items I mentioned last time are still un-useable. (If you just haven't had time yet, that's cool, just a reminder.)

Had a lot of fun yesterday, was very surprised a number of times, hehe. \o/

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #466 on: 2014-10-30 00:17:01 »
That Peace Ring price must have been a nasty shock; it's easy to fix but I'll double-check them all again. I revised the prizes recently, was the thing. I've been working on an extensive patch to fix up a big list of problems, issues, and stuff that was just no good, including a quite serious one regarding variables (I had to test for new variables and change them all) which is why I'm running a bit late on it. Very nearly done though.

Battle Square 1 & 2 is just about done; and because I can't do much about the roulette, I decided to do away with the random groups and make it the same eight fights every time (like how Special Battle works) and hand-picked which fights would appear. I also added AI to deal with the auto-buff so monsters that appear now have their original HP, STR, and MAG rather than a %-boost (which tends to become unmanageable in mods where stats are adjusted). I also changed the one-time Keystone Battle Square event prize to some things that'll be much more useful, including another new item.

Ultimate strats on Vincent, eh? :p

In 1.1 I was using a weird set-up to get around a glitch where character-models used as enemies soft-lock the game when struck by attacks. I had an invisible 'hit-box' the player would attack while the player-model enemy would use attacks, so two enemies to make one. Thing is, I since found a way to make it so that these guys could be attacked directly but I've likely forgotten to update their status defence info. I better give them all a quick check to make sure their elemental weaknesses and the like are all what they should be.

Lambda's only gimmick is that if he's killed before he can transform into one of his two forms, the fight will repeat. The only way to end it is to trigger his transformation and then kill him, at which point he'll eject the player party from the battle and end it properly. A lot of people have said they found him confusing, though; I reckon it might be time to get rid of this and make him just like Lost Number but with the different attacks. Boxer in Gongaga, however, will remain his usual bastard self.

I'm gonna watch that big ol' highlight for notes, etc. though judging from the title it seems like I better get this battle square fixed up pronto  :-X

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #467 on: 2014-10-30 00:37:52 »
Haha, the battle arena is alright, but it takes a very particular setup which took a while to nail down, including the Wall Ring from the speed square which itself needs some not-well-known-strats (Or actual skill, I guess. >_>) to get the maximum reward from, hehe.

With the extra levels and materia from getting up to Nibel I've got a setup which works quite reasonably now, gunna grind away for those reflect rings over the next couple of days, hehe. Something to consider would be adding in a 'nicer' way of getting GP at this point in the game. Not that playing Super Dunk with a metronome isn't extremely exciting or anything. :P

EDIT: And yeah the actual fight against Lambda seemed basically the same as normal, it was just the eject and the dialogue which made me think I missed something.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #468 on: 2014-10-30 02:01:35 »
I was thinking that actually; one of the biggest obstacles to actually doing anything in the Gold Saucer in Disc 1 & 2 is getting GP (Most people wait for Chocobo Racing for a big supply of GP from trading in rare items/Materia for 3-500GP).

What I'll do is up the GP awards from the machines, and have Cait Sith give the party a 'present' of 100GP or so to start when he joins. That should fix her up.

I'm up to Gongaga in your highlight, saw a puzzling glitch with the music there but I think I've found the cause so that'll hopefully be fixed up too. It looks like I left components in there to handle music after the Reno fight and got distracted before I finished it. Might tune the fight up to make it more interesting, and give them stuff to steal.

Patch will be up tomorrow it seems like, should make grinding those Reflect Rings a fair bit easier. The eight encounters will be the same every time (might expand it later but I reckon it'll be better that way, easier to prepare and kills some of the RNG already in the Battle Square). I also put different music in for each iteration of Battle Square, ease that inevitable Aseri2 headache ._.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #469 on: 2014-10-30 14:48:17 »
Them there new patches are up. 15 days worth of bug fixin' and wrangling, featuring:

-) Cleaned up variables used by the NT Mod, as there was a risk that some variables were already in use by the game. This is largely harmless for current players, but has the side-effect of making Lv.4 Limit Sidequests available for completion again if they were finished prior. The only real consequence of this is that you can now get a second copy of every Lv.4 Limit Book and another O. Shard (maybe some more EXP too, Extra Bosses don't have the level cap AI).

-) Battle Square rebalanced with a static eight encounters for each variant, with the first two (pre-Bronco and post-Bronco) having enemies with AI to prevent the auto-buff that Battle Square (which shortens to BS, interestingly) gives it's enemies. GP rewards were also boosted for the Basketball and Wonder-Catcher minigame (the others will be boosted soon), and Cait Sith gives the party 100GP when he joins the party to encourage folk to stick around the Disc 1 Gold Saucer and try stuff out, like, uh, Battle Square...

-) Fixed a tonne of issues and made various optimisations to bosses from all over the game. Key attention was paid to end-game bosses where Shield could make them unable to inflict any damage, so a mix of non-elemental attacks was put in there to keep players on their toes.

-) Made Junon Leagues available much earlier, from Disc 1.

-) Adjusted Materia equip effects and fixed the broken Mime Materia.

-) Some spell balances; KOTR was made usable again, Comet2 got a slight nerf, and Ultima was buffed.

-) Umbrella placed back in Speed Square's Disc 1, and is available from Lifeform Hojo as an uncommon drop.

If I've missed anything, then let me know.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #470 on: 2014-10-31 00:34:12 »
Was in the Area getting Mythril, and had a few minutes to try the Junon league this morning. I can *almost* beat some of them, haha. I'm impressed by the amount of content there though, all new bosses; I'm excited to get a bit tougher so I can try for reals. \o/

I have run into the big mounted dude in the arena before and beaten him there (Wondered why he had dialogue, now it makes sense, hehe.) but I got berserked before I could slow him this time, so he kicked my butt, hehe. A few were way too hard though so I'll prolly try again after Rocket Town. Gunna try and smash some battle arena tonight, but I snagged 2 reflect rings with my remaining GP so I was getting the old version sussed out, but some encounters were nearly unbeatable so it's good to see a change, might be inclined to grab some Curse Rings now as well.

Thanks again for all your work on the mod Sega, it's a really fun experience. \o/

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #471 on: 2014-10-31 00:47:22 »
No prob, thanks for playing it and going through the headache of streaming it. Next thing is Dark Summons (like FFX's Dark Aeons) but I've been thinking it'd be a good idea to add stuff for Disc 1/2 as well. A few new things for earlier on couldn't hurt. I've been looking at Kattan and Sample G0512's mechanics as well, to see how viable it is to transplant Kattan's mechanic to Sample (which would be a better fit, and solves that boss being too flat and uninteresting at present) but I'll need to come up with a replacement for Kattan.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #472 on: 2014-10-31 16:46:45 »
Well if anyone wants to see absolutely how NOT to fight Nemesis, here's my third Hero Medal vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BWpp34l8wM

It takes way too long I figure but, well, I suck. Also it's not the best quality because my computer can't really handle the game and Fraps running at the same time too well.


Can I just say I hate the Limit Break system in this game? "Oh yes we'll make it so you can't use any more physical attacks until after you use your Limit. Or you die, either or." Maybe I don't want to use my Limit because the boss counters with Ultima!

My favorite part is when you use a Limit on Nemesis, he counters with Ultima, but that doesn't count as his turn so his actual next turn is Armageddon. Coming right on the heels of Ultima. This video is 100% Good Luck on my part with both of those missing Aerith. But yeah, if not for that thing I got from thE Mammon Machine, this would have been another failure video. Again, it's more of a guide how NOT to fight Nemesis.

 I find the smartest strategy of dealing with the counter-Ultima is to have a W-Magic/W-Item lined up and ready to go. If you need some last second healing to ensure you survive the counter, use one spell/item to heal, then activate the other character's Limit to interrupt the W-Magic/Item, and then immediately after the Limit and Ultima the healer will complete the W-Magic/Item turn, restoring your party  to decent levels, if not full.

Still, I love that fight. I might have to retry it now Comet2 is weaker.  I'll def have to think of a new strategy.

Honestly I'd rather have made a video of the new Jenova WAR encounter where you get some backup because that was awesome. But I'd have to get back to the fight and it just be a bit of a pain. Besides, PH is spreading the good word about the NT mod so I don't need to make any more bad videos.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #473 on: 2014-10-31 19:28:31 »
I hadn't thought about that for Nemesis; in FFX, Overdrives don't replace the attack command like they do here. There are a few ways around it, like equipping Mug, but it's always been a pain no matter how you slice it.

FF7 PC is a bit dodgy for recording/frame-rates because of the way it limits frames; I've seen a lot of beefy machines be unable to record smoothly whenever graphical mods are installed. A quad-core seems to help though, my old entry-level PC doesn't have a dedicated Graphics card but it can get fights down with Fraps without any real frame-loss (except for field screens when ran in a window)

Make videos of whatever you want to; there's plenty of footage around the place but there's always stuff that gets missed out either due to RNG or because the player party was too strong for it to have a chance to trigger. If FPS is a problem, you could always try speeding the footage up by 1.5x; I tried watching your video with that setting and it more or less moved at the speed it was supposed to, even the audio (although speeding it up in Windows MovieMaker means that the audio is lost; to get around that, make a separate file by converting the video to audio and speed that up in something like Audacity, then lay your sped-up audio track over the muted sped-up footage in movie-maker as a 'music track'; just need to make sure it's synched correctly).

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.2)
« Reply #474 on: 2014-11-02 19:09:31 »
Hey Sega Chief,

After finally building my new pc i have got round to playing your mod, well sort of ha. I have mainly been trying it with 7H and loading other mods on top and going through which ones break it and which ones don't and so far the one i really want to work just totally breaks it which is the Menu Overhaul Mod, is there any reason why this would break it?

Also any chance you are close to releasing a 7H version so we can combine it with the HD stuff?