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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8950 on: 2020-02-24 12:44:45 »
Were the Arrange Mode selection at the start of a New Game and Barret music options taken out?

No; where did you get the IRO from, was it this thread?

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8951 on: 2020-02-24 15:29:19 »
Yes, of course.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8952 on: 2020-02-24 19:29:30 »
Yes, of course.

I checked the IRO file and it is definitely in there; the welcome script, etc. Is this a test of it on 2.0? I would check Gjoerulv's mod as well as that has the same file structure as NT (to check it, load a save that's either on Floor 64 and ready to open the chest on Floor 65, at the foot of the Sister Ray, or about to enter any of the Materia Caves for the first time. If a special battle triggers when proceeding with those events, it means its flevel is patched).

Chunks needed for NT are 1, 3, 5, and 7. 5 isn't as important but it prevents a lock from happening at the end of the dark cave sidequest.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8953 on: 2020-02-24 21:01:04 »
It should just be a direct unpack from your IRO. Nothing altered. I say “should be” so I’ll check over it again.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8954 on: 2020-02-27 07:42:48 »
I think the Shinra HQ Library puzzle, with the Mayor, has a bug. I can tell from reading a walkthrough that you've messed with it for the mod, and now if the password is BEST, the hints from the improperly filed books in the library actually spell BEHT.

#1 Biological Characteristics of the Ancients
#3 Special Peacekeeping Law
#14 The Ancients in History
#5 Reactor Construction Chart

Is the #14 supposed to be #11, perhaps?

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8955 on: 2020-02-27 09:57:25 »
I just started playing this mod and love it so far. One thing I want to mention though is that there's still some issues with the Jessie mod compatibility.

After the guard scorpion fight and on the way out of the reactor, I had a random encounter with another guard scorpion that did thousands of points of damage per round. This occurred right at the bottom of the ladder on the same screen Jessie is normally stuck on, just before I was able to start climbing.

It's not a big deal - I just started again without the Jessie mod - but I wanted to mention as the opening post specifically says they should be compatible now.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8956 on: 2020-02-27 14:49:17 »
I think the Shinra HQ Library puzzle, with the Mayor, has a bug. I can tell from reading a walkthrough that you've messed with it for the mod, and now if the password is BEST, the hints from the improperly filed books in the library actually spell BEHT.

#1 Biological Characteristics of the Ancients
#3 Special Peacekeeping Law
#14 The Ancients in History
#5 Reactor Construction Chart

Is the #14 supposed to be #11, perhaps?

Yeah it's off, that's my bad for going into the text there and not double-counting the letters.

I just started playing this mod and love it so far. One thing I want to mention though is that there's still some issues with the Jessie mod compatibility.

After the guard scorpion fight and on the way out of the reactor, I had a random encounter with another guard scorpion that did thousands of points of damage per round. This occurred right at the bottom of the ladder on the same screen Jessie is normally stuck on, just before I was able to start climbing.

It's not a big deal - I just started again without the Jessie mod - but I wanted to mention as the opening post specifically says they should be compatible now.

This is due to a encounter chunk in the Jessie Mod overwriting the encounter table to use the default one (and because NT has some late-game encounters placed in wherever I could make space, this table loads them in).

I made a compatible version by removing this chunk from the Jessie Mod IRO; it didn't need this chunk to begin with so it still functions. It's available on the 1st page of this thread, but will link it here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/825mu1w33g83ruh/Jessie_IRO_Compatability_Patched.iro/file

You import that via the 7h library tab and disable/delete the old one.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8957 on: 2020-02-28 05:51:46 »
Hi Sega Chief, just wanted to let you know I think your mod is the best gameplay mod.

I solved a problem with a bug in the game where the dialog with Sephiroth in the basement Shinra Mansion during the flashback scene, as well as some dialog in the Temple of Ancients, was not showing up using your mod, Tifa's 7H, and Menu Overhaul.

I figured the problem was with Menu Overhaul, so I tried the new "Enhanced Stock UI" mod which basically is an IRO that does the menu overhaul without all the other Reunion stuff, and can run off the FF7.exe rather than FF7_mo.exe or FF7_bc.exe.  Unfortunately, this mod also had the same bug with the dialog boxes disappearing after I activated it, so I messed with the settings in the "Enhanced Stock UI" mod and figured out the solution!

Turns out changing one of the settings in the Enhanced Stock UI fixes the issue entirely.  If you set the option for Field Dialog Text Style to "stock" rather than the default "Menu Overhaul with Digit Fixes" the text will show up in those scenes!

Seems the bug was a result of the field text alignment fixes in Menu Overhaul, which can be toggled off in the "Enhanced Stock UI."  There is a little more space between lines of dialog when this setting is on "stock," but the text is still crisp and pretty just like it is in Menu Overhaul mod, and there is no more missing dialog.

Regards,
Nate

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8958 on: 2020-02-28 10:20:15 »
Hi Sega Chief, just wanted to let you know I think your mod is the best gameplay mod.

I solved a problem with a bug in the game where the dialog with Sephiroth in the basement Shinra Mansion during the flashback scene, as well as some dialog in the Temple of Ancients, was not showing up using your mod, Tifa's 7H, and Menu Overhaul.

I figured the problem was with Menu Overhaul, so I tried the new "Enhanced Stock UI" mod which basically is an IRO that does the menu overhaul without all the other Reunion stuff, and can run off the FF7.exe rather than FF7_mo.exe or FF7_bc.exe.  Unfortunately, this mod also had the same bug with the dialog boxes disappearing after I activated it, so I messed with the settings in the "Enhanced Stock UI" mod and figured out the solution!

Turns out changing one of the settings in the Enhanced Stock UI fixes the issue entirely.  If you set the option for Field Dialog Text Style to "stock" rather than the default "Menu Overhaul with Digit Fixes" the text will show up in those scenes!

Seems the bug was a result of the field text alignment fixes in Menu Overhaul, which can be toggled off in the "Enhanced Stock UI."  There is a little more space between lines of dialog when this setting is on "stock," but the text is still crisp and pretty just like it is in Menu Overhaul mod, and there is no more missing dialog.

Regards,
Nate

I'll try setting the dialogue back to vanilla for those fields, or using the vanilla text-box sizing; I'm building the final version atm it'll be in that version.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8959 on: 2020-02-29 01:32:35 »
Minor typo or effect is wrong. Aerith's Wizard Staff from the Ancient Forest restores MP on hit not HP as the effect states. I assume it's a typo as HP restore is pretty outclassed by that late in the game but mana sustain is pretty freaking good.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8960 on: 2020-02-29 04:22:05 »
Hey there Sega Chief, i'm just curious: how the progress is going on the 2.0 version? It'll be the ultimate way to play ff7. Can't wait for it's release.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8961 on: 2020-02-29 11:54:36 »
Going for 20-25th March.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8962 on: 2020-03-02 02:02:31 »
@Sega Chief

I'm watching a streamer play New Threat Mod and it looks awesome! I'm definitely going to play it, but I had a quick question if you don't mind.
I'm planning on playing the New Threat + Reunion version, and I was wondering if you think Necrosis would work in combination with these mods? I have played Reunion + Necrosis before (albeit with a slight bit of tinkering to get it to work), so I was hoping I could try it here too.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8963 on: 2020-03-02 03:39:50 »
I'm not sure if this has already been reported, but the Mr. Smile dialog has a small display bug. His line "And that concludes the deal." gets placed in a box that's slightly too short, which puts a linebreak after the "e" in "deal".

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8964 on: 2020-03-02 08:53:52 »
@Sega Chief

I'm watching a streamer play New Threat Mod and it looks awesome! I'm definitely going to play it, but I had a quick question if you don't mind.
I'm planning on playing the New Threat + Reunion version, and I was wondering if you think Necrosis would work in combination with these mods? I have played Reunion + Necrosis before (albeit with a slight bit of tinkering to get it to work), so I was hoping I could try it here too.

If it's the translation part of reunion (beacause) then it won't work together; NT has a lot of custom event scripting that lives in the same place as dialogue in the field files. 7h does split field files into separate parts but dialogue + event scripting unfortunately exist in the same section. Beacause also replaces text in the scene + kernel which is where NT's enemy/character changes are so that's another point of conflict. Necrosis is same issue; changes are more minor but would still clash; NT with Necrosis would likely be unwinnable anyway.

I'm not sure if this has already been reported, but the Mr. Smile dialog has a small display bug. His line "And that concludes the deal." gets placed in a box that's slightly too short, which puts a linebreak after the "e" in "deal".

Think it slipped my mind, been a while since I heard about it though.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8965 on: 2020-03-03 04:50:43 »
The Mr. Smile dialog has a small display bug. His line "And that concludes the deal." gets placed in a box that's slightly too short, which puts a linebreak after the "e" in "deal".

Think it slipped my mind, been a while since I heard about it though.

It might only affect some early game save points. I started from the beginning, and I saw it on the original "save point" that starts the SP system, and also in Fort Condor. But on the ship from Junon, it's fixed. Maybe it stays fixed throughout the rest of the game? That could explain the lack of reports.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8966 on: 2020-03-03 06:36:36 »
Super super minor bug report: The bikini girl on the Costa del Sol beach, who passes on Hojo's message to you after you sleep at the inn the first time, has a grammar error in her dialog:

"What you're looking for has went west." should be "What you're looking for as gone west."

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8967 on: 2020-03-04 07:22:58 »
More info on the "Let's make a deal" bug. The Save point on the railroad track on Mt. Corel is *partially* bugged. It looks right when I finish ranking up Cloud, but it's broken for everyone else you can have at that point in the game (Barret, Yuffie, Aeris, Red XIII, Tifa).

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8968 on: 2020-03-04 10:15:48 »
Might be the length of character names.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8969 on: 2020-03-04 13:04:37 »
From what you've posted previously about changes in 2.0 I assume it's not going to be save compataible with 1.5. Just wanted to check as I'll wait for 2.0 instead of starting a new threat run now.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8970 on: 2020-03-04 18:21:36 »
Yeah I'm reassigning memory so they probably won't be. You can still load save files from different versions to another but it can lead to certain things not activating.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8971 on: 2020-03-04 19:07:45 »
Just putting this here; it's a hextless NT IRO for users having trouble with IROs with a Hext component on the new 2.0 7h: https://mega.nz/#!DglhRJIa!cecDieYyAL1R1J9Qse1-Z2ZAhgQ_BOUXzykMnFrOkzE

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8972 on: 2020-03-05 02:20:41 »
Hey Sega Chief, just wanted to say I discovered your mod recently and have been having an absolute blast. I was having a rough time passing time until Bannerlord and Doom Eternal but your mod has made my childhood come alive again. 2.0 cant come soon enough and I cant wait to play it! Keep up the great work and thank you for this awesome mod!

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8973 on: 2020-03-05 03:45:57 »
Bug Report

I see you've changed Super Dunk's "Double Chance" to "Triple Chance" in the Gold Saucer, but two of the original pieces of text have not been updated to reflect that.
"You may continue after you successfully double your GP."
"NOW PLAYING DOUBLE CHANCE"

Those both should say "triple".

Speaking of bugs, are you back-porting bugfixes to 1.5, or are they just going into 2.0? The fact that 1.5 saves won't be forwards-compatible with 2.0 makes me hope you are. Yhough obviously the ones I've been reporting aren't a huge deal.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8974 on: 2020-03-05 04:01:28 »
Hi Sega,

I see that there's a Download link for compatibility with the R06 (Reunion) mod, but I am seeing in the installation process for this that there's no compatibilty yet with that mod. Is this correct? If that is the case, what does that file do?