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Reunion + 7th Heaven - The Final Answer
« on: 2020-03-05 14:11:37 »
The Reunion will not be included in any Qhimm Catalog moving forward.

DLPB (Dan) has made it very publicly clear, through both words and actions, that he does not want it featured anywhere except within his own domains. That means no catalogs, no .iros, no separate threads and no alternative hosting sites. This is not to guarantee people won’t still do it, so I can’t speak on behalf of them. But I can speak for the Qhimm Catalog, and it’s not happening.

With all that said, there are a couple things that need to be addressed for others not familiar with modding FF7 to understand. The most complex mod to ever touch this game is The Reunion, hands down. And unless you have taken the time to crack it open and see for yourself, you will never fathom what it takes to even attempt implementing it into something workable for 7th Heaven.

First off, prior to R06, the method of modding was through an executable installation. It was much easier reverse engineering to pull out parts of it like BEACAUSE or MENU OVERHAUL and begin the attempts to format it (.iro) for 7th Heaven. Parts of it worked well, while others not so much. After the first publish of it in 7th Heaven, it didn’t take long to realize how incompatible it was with basically ever mod there is. The Reunion touches so many aspects of the game files, that it’s almost guaranteed to break at some point throughout the game when a Reunion file finally clashes with the same file of another mod it doesn’t like. The Reunion is still in development and crashes with itself, so let’s combine it with other mods and hope for the best...whoops...

The game crashes...there are hundreds of thousands of game files, so now try thinking about troubleshooting that without the knowledge of knowing what exactly the Reunion is changing. The only way this can happen is if DLPB is working directly in tangent with the other mod author to help build and fuse them together as one. A prime example would be with New Threat, which is constantly asked if compatible with Reunion. The only answer to that is never...not unless DLPB and Sega Chief decide to fuse them into one. The amount of work for that would take years I imagine.

Now secondly, R06 introduced DLPB’s own method for modding FF7, which in conjunction, basically made R06 proprietary to it. It also baked in restrictions for use with 7th Heaven. R06 is proprietary and 7th Heaven restricted...the message should be clear at this point...

It was in past Qhimm Catalogs so why can’t it work now? With much humility, I will admit that it was a mistake, and I’m sorry. Sorry not only to DLPB, but also to the community for leading us to believe we could have everything. We need to stop asking about the Reunion and leave DLPB to his work. Moving on is the only way to set this issue free of its past and create a better future. In fact, we’ve already paved the way for this to happen. MENU OVERHAUL was finally removed in Qhimm Catalog, only to be replaced by Enhanced Stock UI. This was specifically developed by Chrysalis and I, so that the community could have a new menu mod in active development that is capable of working with other mods we love. This is how we need to build this modding community, by earnestly developing and giving something for each other, rather than desiring and taking everything for ourselves.

If anyone asks about The Reunion + 7th Heaven (or other mods), please politely guide them to this post and try to leave it at that. The only way we’re going to work and grow as a community, is by accepting this together for what it truly is.

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Re: Reunion + 7th Heaven - The Final Answer
« Reply #1 on: 2020-03-11 05:28:45 »
This will be sad for those looking forward to this but that's how it goes sadly.  Also I am currently back at work on mine and trying to work out the kinks while putting in something new about to test and see how it works.