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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #100 on: 2019-08-23 22:11:07 »
Some dickweed on another forum deadass asked me to source my claims, so I thought I'd mirror them here, too.

PS1 music features: https://twitter.com/Dotemu/status/1138723243999801344

No Chocobo World, its items moving to Angelo Search: https://www.siliconera.com/2019/06/19/final-fantasy-viii-director-yoshinori-kitase-talks-about-the-remaster-and-original-development/

Removed trophies: https://www.exophase.com/game/final-fantasy-viii-remastered-xbox/achievements/

Graphics: Should be obvious by just looking at it, but yes, I was seriously asked to source whether or not the graphics were changing. https://www.rpgsite.net/news/8853-final-fantasy-viii-remastered-launches-on-september-3 Also shows incorrect UV mapping on world map.

Lack of circular analog movement, button prompts return: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=197r5l9nuoQ (Movement is pretty obvious here, with how Squall snaps from one direction to another instead of a natural, gradual turn.)

Upscaled FMVs, lack of 60 FPS battle UI (Note that battles were 30 FPS in FFVIII to begin with, but the UI itself was 60. Everything in battle is 30 FPS in FFVIII Steam / Remastered.): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_XUmO3IWJE

Cheats: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/66375/final-fantasy-8-remaster-cheats-convenience-features/index.html

Lack of vibration is supposition, as is the ability to reassign trigger buttons on the coming Steam release.
« Last Edit: 2019-08-23 22:16:34 by rotschleim »

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #101 on: 2019-08-23 23:32:39 »
Ha ha, what the hell did they do to Squall?? And not to mention every other character... SE is, again, trying to make a J-Pop band of their characters lmao.
I mean, unless they change the movie scenes (which they won't), the design will conflict. Annoyingly so. Wth????

There is a lot to say about pricing in gaming. For instance, In Norway, a beer costs about $10 (not in the stores but in bars), unless you drink crap beer. A meal in a restaurant costs about $20 (depends, of course). You want a beer with that meal? $30. Compared to this, $20 for a game seems ridiculous. But in the FF8 remake case, IF you compare the amount of work with other games made from scratch, $20 is a tad bit high imo.

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #102 on: 2019-08-24 03:02:55 »
Take a look at Quezacotl and Bahamut , it also looks like the sound effects are still broken. You can also enjoy (for 3 seconds) the untouched worldmap .

Top and bottom black bars are still there too.
« Last Edit: 2019-08-25 15:03:27 by Aavock »

rotschleim

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #103 on: 2019-08-24 03:12:16 »
neat, it actually sounds to me like they fixed quezacotl's sound effects. but it's hard to hear over the din of the convention. i thought i heard the ps1 explosion noise at least

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« Reply #104 on: 2019-08-24 07:41:00 »
Is the Grandia remaster really garbage though? The filter doesn't look that bad and people who hate filtered sprites must be a minority considering developers keep adding those.

Anyway, I want that on Good Old Games. I'm hopeful since Grandia 2 is already there.

If you are used to the PSX version than it's okay, but they promised to use the good things from the Sega version which should have been result in better and a more variety of textures. There are also some fake shadows for the houses. https://youtu.be/1txHf-QU-7c

Maybe it's modable in the future.

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #105 on: 2019-08-26 11:56:18 »
Final Fantasy twitter showing off some of Rinoas limit breaks, good news they fixed the slowdown during Wishing Star

https://twitter.com/FinalFantasy/status/1165942212611514369

rotschleim

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« Reply #106 on: 2019-08-28 03:38:30 »
« Last Edit: 2019-08-28 20:12:39 by rotschleim »

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #107 on: 2019-08-29 01:58:21 »
siren is being censored https://twitter.com/FFDream/status/1163710755939803136

Not a big deal, but still, any kind of censoring is always annoying. I mean, what's the point of censoring an old game?

Maybe I was wrong in the FF7 Remake thread, maybe Square did start caring about dressing modestly all of a sudden.

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #108 on: 2019-08-29 04:52:10 »
No analog is a big deal. It is easier to find hidden draw points in psx than the PC ver because of how the character spin around

Arthandas

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #109 on: 2019-08-29 08:56:49 »
siren is being censored https://twitter.com/FFDream/status/1163710755939803136
That's not censoring, it's just an updated model with better design.

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« Reply #110 on: 2019-08-29 09:30:49 »
That's not censoring, it's just an updated model with better design.

Not saying that it is censorship but afaict the other summon models aren't "redesigned".

Arthandas

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #111 on: 2019-08-29 11:42:41 »
Not saying that it is censorship but afaict the other summon models aren't "redesigned".
Because they don't need to be. Siren looked like she had a pubic jungle between her legs but if you look closely (or check the concept art) it's just "feather armor". Now it looks like a feather skirt and the design as a whole is clearer. Whether you like it or not, there's no other version of that particular model so you can't call it censorship. Unlike Squall, I think this model is a huge improvement.

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #112 on: 2019-08-29 12:45:39 »
Unlike Squall, I think this model is a huge improvement.
She still looks like a ticked off mermaid wanna-be.  No way I'm dashing myself upon her rocks.

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #113 on: 2019-08-29 14:47:20 »
Not a big deal, but still, any kind of censoring is always annoying. I mean, what's the point of censoring an old game?

Maybe I was wrong in the FF7 Remake thread, maybe Square did start caring about dressing modestly all of a sudden.

Likely because rating standards aren't the same as when the game was released.

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« Reply #114 on: 2019-08-29 17:21:12 »
hmm, im a little surprised that the reaction to siren's new design has been lukewarm or even positive. i have to admit, her new skirt has grown on me as well

here's OG siren from an unmodded 2013 steam release https://i.imgur.com/GKfYvgN.png

here's remastered again for an easy comparison https://i.imgur.com/4yLjgna.png

siren's concept art https://i.imgur.com/xBFuCTQ.png

the official action figure https://i.imgur.com/nwmx375.png

it's pretty obvious that this more humanoid looking woman (with a human flesh tone) has her whole vagina out and it's only covered by a bush straight out of a 1976 porno

shiva's design hasn't been altered (aside from heavier eye makeup) https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=236&v=ZPHBXWQfPIg

and the design of ifrit (who also has the pube problem) seems unaltered as well
« Last Edit: 2019-08-29 22:35:50 by rotschleim »

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #115 on: 2019-08-29 18:22:44 »
Over an hour of gameplay here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIWBmOSD3Qc

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« Reply #116 on: 2019-08-29 18:26:32 »
https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/1026680/extras/Guardian-Steam-PreOrder-EN.jpg?t=1566406260

Order from Steam and they'll give you the same wallpaper that you got 20 years ago.

Arthandas

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #117 on: 2019-08-29 18:57:33 »
Over an hour of gameplay here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIWBmOSD3Qc
Damn, those backgrounds... I can't believe those incompetent idiots lost both the source code AND the original high res backgrounds. Jesus Christ, the more I look at them the uglier they become, how's that even possible.
« Last Edit: 2019-08-29 18:59:41 by Arthandas »

rotschleim

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #118 on: 2019-08-29 18:58:52 »
Over an hour of gameplay here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIWBmOSD3Qc
what i gleaned from that vid:

New "Exit" option added to main menu; exit and return to title screen (Replaces soft reset?)

Still have 2 "slots" of 30 saves, still called "GAME FOLDER" (?)

PS4 has classic save menu

No sign of controller rumble

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #119 on: 2019-08-29 20:09:15 »
When i wasn't rage blinded by the backgrounds, and squalls model, i did notice one positive. They have fixed quezacotl sound fx.....that's something in this s*** storm i suppose
« Last Edit: 2019-08-29 20:11:20 by gunner_1207 »

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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #120 on: 2019-08-29 21:46:03 »
I can't believe those incompetent idiots lost both the source code AND the original high res backgrounds. Jesus Christ, the more I look at them the uglier they become, how's that even possible.
Because 20 years ago, storage wasn't nearly as cheap as it is today.

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« Reply #121 on: 2019-08-29 22:39:28 »
They have fixed quezacotl sound fx.....that's something in this s*** storm i suppose
i wonder if they "fixed" it like how the current fan-made fix did it... as in phoenix would also have quez's sfx lmao

edit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIWBmOSD3Qc&feature=youtu.be&t=2432 40:30 in the vid light posted earlier
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Re: FFVIII Remastered
« Reply #122 on: 2019-08-30 01:57:01 »
It was cheap enough that a multi million pound company could keep a backup on various media very easily
Apparently not, since Square binned both 7 and 8.

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« Reply #123 on: 2019-08-30 05:09:03 »
Apparently not, since Square binned both 7 and 8.
If I understand the story correctly, the sources for the games were made on gold discs and just misplaced when various people left the company. They probably still exist somewhere in someone's basement/attic. Might be worth a fortune now if it weren't such terrible work.
HiRes images were never kept. They were done by a third party and square only paid for the images they could use on the old PSX. I assume a similar thing was done with the FMVs, but I don't remember reading what happened with that other than they weren't kept either.

It was cheap enough that a multi million pound company could keep a backup on various media very easily
It wasn't really common practice to save source or resources longer than a short period in case you need to make small adjustments between versions. Version control wasn't a widely practiced thing until mid '00s.

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« Reply #124 on: 2019-08-30 05:40:50 »
HiRes images were never kept.
It wasn't really common practice to save source or resources
Except that's not really true. Competent companies weren't losing their assets left and right - it's mostly a Square's thing. How many source codes did Nintendo lost? Blizzard? Id Software? Any other major company? If you're in business of making software, you keep backups of its source code, that's just common sense and embarrassing yourself is by now Square's modus operandi.