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« on: 2001-09-11 22:26:00 »
...at least as we know it.

I've been informed that due to high server stress I'm unable to keep this message board as a separate board on the server. This leaves me with two options:

1) Merge with rpgboards.com, meaning we'll have our own cathegory with a couple of forums.
2) Find a PHP host for the msgboard and switch to phpBB (or something like it).

If no solution is found, this board will be closed as of Monday, September 24th.

Comments/suggestions?


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« Reply #1 on: 2001-09-11 23:21:00 »
What a day. First the trade towers now this. I cant think of what you could do but hell...good luck with it.

There is always ezboard...but ezboard sucks ass.

Good luck Qhimm!


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« Reply #2 on: 2001-09-12 06:47:00 »
Well....I think Delpi's forum are free...
 http://www.delphi.com/clc_forum/messages/?msg=3.1" TARGET=_blank>http://www.delphi.com/clc_forum/messages/?msg=3.1

Guess you can look into it.


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« Reply #3 on: 2001-09-12 13:50:00 »
Look at http://www.ezboard.com" TARGET=_blank>http://www.ezboard.com  or http://www.everyone.net" TARGET=_blank>http://www.everyone.net  for alternatives.
The Everyone.Net Community is better as their ads aren't as intrusive as ezboard.com

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« Reply #4 on: 2001-09-12 14:24:00 »
...yea, what a day...

Qhimm, nice to see you again...it has been always nice to see you, but...not on this horrific day...

...I'll respect and follow whatever your decisions are...


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« Reply #5 on: 2001-09-12 19:21:00 »
Closing down this forum? ... whaa    :(

IMO, it'd be better to find another host...b'cause this boartd has got something 'personal' - it's a bit nbot like the others...

(Damnit, are there only f**kin' news these days? - it just to start 'bout comitting suicide...)

- Alhexx

- edit -
Is it possible just to move this board onto another server? Or will we lose all our 'data'? (<- that'd be trash!)

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Qhimm: You could take a look at
 http://www.freewebspace.net" TARGET=_blank>http://www.freewebspace.net

and search for a free host that supports cgi...

(I found my site via this page)

[This message has been edited by Alhexx (edited September 12, 2001).]


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« Reply #6 on: 2001-09-12 20:41:00 »
Yeah, would you be able to download the message board (or just the forum folders and html/cgi) and upload it to another server?
 http://www.host.sk" TARGET=_blank>Host.sk  has 999MB/infinite space, no ads, all cgi and php etc. support. Only problem is that it's not so fast, well not for me anyway. People in other countries might find it fine,  http://completeff.host.sk/complete_ff.html" TARGET=_blank>click here  to test how fast it goes for you from my html page.

You cant close the board down Qhimm. It's so much better than any others, its not over-crowded, has lots of info and is really useful. How will the Remake Project work without it? Well, I guess its all up to you so I'll be fine with whatever. Could we like move to a temperary shitty board if you need time to get another board up.


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« Reply #7 on: 2001-09-13 05:19:00 »
Seems like 3dfiles/tweek3d are going down, too.
 http://www.3dfiles.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.3dfiles.com/

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« Reply #8 on: 2001-09-13 07:09:00 »
Message.

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« Reply #9 on: 2001-09-13 08:12:00 »
NOoOOOOOOO!!!! High server stress?!?! Golly, we don't visit this board toghether all at once! There should be no problem! If the board is full, I suggest that we compress all the very old messages into a high compression format like cab or even FF8's compression format. Then, like eight, we view the compressed files directly using web pages. If the article needs to be viewed, the file can be decompressed temporarily for viewing/downloading. If the file remains untouched for 1 or 2 days, it is deleted.

How does that sound? The max users at once that I've seen before is only 6. Isn't it a little ironic that this nice and warm board has to be closed down just because of a small problem? New server? No problem. Many of us have our own servers, so we can offer a little bandwidth. The Saint has his own website, hosted by a local telephone company called Maxis. Try requesting him for some space.


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« Reply #10 on: 2001-09-13 08:21:00 »
Is it the world war 3? Good sites from downloads to porn are delcining after the fall of the World Trade center.

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« Reply #11 on: 2001-09-13 08:23:00 »
Is it the world war 3? Good sites from downloads to porn are delcining after the fall of the World Trade center.

Qhimm, tell us truthfully~does the closing of this msgbrd has something to do with it?


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« Reply #12 on: 2001-09-13 12:22:00 »
Damn, this sucks.

If Qhimm doesn't find a solution, what IS the remake team going to do?

I suppose I could open a few forms on my msgbrds as a backup for the Remake team if Qhimm's boards fall like the WTC towers. Only prob is my board is on ezboard. Not the best site in the world, but at least it's free.

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« Reply #13 on: 2001-09-13 15:49:00 »
How about  http://www.eSmartStart.com" TARGET=_blank>eSmartStart ? It provides free webspace.

It supports CGI-BIN, FTP, and all the other stuff needed to build a UBB Board.

Well, this board is a great one. The greatest I have ever been to. It would be a loss to shut it down~


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« Reply #14 on: 2001-09-13 17:01:00 »
Alhexx is right, you wanna keep this board personal, plus you dont want it hosted with a load of other boards coz then there will be less association with you and ure appz ergo decreasing your renown throughout the www.

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« Reply #15 on: 2001-09-14 07:04:00 »
Qhimm: Not good...
I'm surprised no one has mentioned ::gulp:: the issue of money. Is bandwidth the problem here or just server stress in general?
Maybe if we could pay 3Dstream so that they could set up another server just for this board? Or switch to one of those pay services? I don't know how feasible that would be, but maybe one of those $5-10 US a month services? I guess that would make bandwidth a lot more important, and the board wouldn't be free anymore, but maybe if all/most/some of us chipped in some money, we could do it? This board's given a lot to me, and I'm willing to pay some of the load. I'd have to get my finances in order to make sure (and you'd have to tell me how to get the money to you), but I think I can provide at least $90+ US if we don't come up with another solution. That would be 9 months of service at 10 bones a month...
I know a few higher-ups in a few game networks. A lot of them are falling on hard times, but I guess I can ask around and see what they say about hosting something like this board.
IIRC, UBB does consume a lot more bandwidth than, say, the PHP based VBulletin, so maybe just switching over to a PHP based board would lower server stress enough to keep us here, like we are, on 3DStream?
I'd hate to see this board go. Good fortune to us all.

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« Reply #16 on: 2001-09-14 09:05:00 »
VBulletin . . . now there's an idea.  VB's are nice, with lots of customization options.  In fact, I'm beginning to think they're nicer than UBB.

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« Reply #17 on: 2001-09-14 12:17:00 »
I'm in the progress of getting nextff.net to host us. I'm not sure that they will help out since hosting another board doesn't bring them any good at all in my opinion. It just increases their bandwidth usage. To make things worth, the webmaster of nextff just isn't around so I haven't been able to contact him.  :(

If they do host us, however, it will most likely be a php based board, and even more likely it will be phpBB cause phpBB is free!
Vbulletin is nice too but it costs money  :(

However, I would recommend that someone were to start backing up threads that all of you need, especially the remake staff  :)

Although Qhimm & I are looking for possible hosts, it would be preferable if you guys help too  :)


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« Reply #18 on: 2001-09-15 00:43:00 »
this is not good
this forum has progressed so much im seriously goona be down if this site goes!!

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« Reply #19 on: 2001-09-15 01:09:00 »
I've already told the Remake staff this, but I already have a backup of this board up until the end of June this year. I'm currently updating it to cover up until today. So to avoid even MORE stress on 3dstream, could anyone who wants mass backups (ie. of LOTS of threads) please wait until I upload my own copy, and then use that? If you're only downloading a couple of your favourite topics then of course I don't think anyone would object to that ^_^

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« Reply #20 on: 2001-09-15 01:19:00 »
 
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NOoOOOOOOO!!!! High server stress?!?! Golly, we don't visit this board toghether all at once! There should be no problem!

   The problem is more than just this board, but the combination of three message boards operating on the same server.  RPGboards.com was turned off for part of the day on Monday and the third board was closed (basically without notice, i feel bad about that). Thats what brought us to where we are now.

 

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Is it the world war 3? Good sites from downloads to porn are delcining after the fall of the World Trade center.


Qhimm, tell us truthfully~does the closing of this msgbrd has something to do with it?

 I'm not Qhimm, but I can answer that, the answer is absolutely not. I contacted Qhimm about this Monday afternoon before the terrorist attacks ever took place.

 

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Maybe if we could pay 3Dstream .......

  I'm not finishing that quote because I can tell you that 3dStream is not in a position to except money for hosting.  We were a year ago, but not now.


Thats all the questions I saw through the posts that I know I can answer.  I'll go into a little more detail about the rpgboards option. You guys have 6 forums on this board right now, I can have those 6 forums on rpgboards.com right below the 3 discussion forums in a category (like the Discussion, Popular RPGs categories that are already there. I can give two categories like you have if needed).  Qhimm would have the administrative power to make them look and feel just like this board does using the vBulletin Control Panel and the admins/mods would be let on there at Qhimm's discretion.

thats it for this post... UNTIL NEXT TIME
cya!

EDIT: Backups of this board can be done fairly easily and the transfer of the files doesn't hurt the server.

[This message has been edited by Russ [3dStream] (edited September 14, 2001).]


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« Reply #21 on: 2001-09-15 02:52:00 »
Russ:  
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The problem is more than just this board, but the combination of three message boards operating on the same server. RPGboards.com was turned off for part of the day on Monday and the third board was closed (basically without notice, i feel bad about that). Thats what brought us to where we are now.
I see. How many servers does 3DStream have in total? Just 1?

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I'm not finishing that quote because I can tell you that 3dStream is not in a position to except money for hosting. We were a year ago, but not now.
How about donations?  :wink: I'm just kidding; I'm sure you don't accept those either.

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Thats all the questions I saw through the posts that I know I can answer. I'll go into a little more detail about the rpgboards option. You guys have 6 forums on this board right now, I can have those 6 forums on rpgboards.com right below the 3 discussion forums in a category (like the Discussion, Popular RPGs categories that are already there. I can give two categories like you have if needed). Qhimm would have the administrative power to make them look and feel just like this board does using the vBulletin Control Panel and the admins/mods would be let on there at Qhimm's discretion.
Most of that sounds good. However, there's still 2 problems I see:
1. Usernames. This isn't too big a deal, a fair amount of us have...er...unique handles, but some probably will find that someone else at RPGBoards already has their name.
2. The simpleness of this board. Maybe this isn't a problem either; I don't know. But a lot (all?) of the people here like just how  simple this board is. For example:
1) We have no avatars (load times with the thread tables can be long enough as it is), but RPGB does.
2) I don't think we have a signature feature (if there is, it's very obscure, as only Sephiroth 3D seems to use one, and even his *doesn't* have pictures). I have a very low tolerance for images in sigs, because of how much they tend to detract from quality and, more importantly, they really drive up loading times. RPGB does.
3) This board has few images (again, load times), and while we briefly flirted with emoticons beside post titles, most of the users didn't like them, so they were removed. However, RPG Boards has those, and a heckuva lot of other similar graphical fluff, so we'd be back at square 1, if not square -1. Some of us will obviously care/not care about that more than others, but the point should be made.
4) The ranking system here is nice and simple, while at RPGBoards they have "Veracity". Users here come and go, and a fair amount of them like the anonymity they can have. That anonymity will be lost at RPGB, since there's a memberlist.

Sure some of VBulletin's other features are nice, and maybe Qhimm can just turn all of the ones he doesn't want off. I don't know. But otherwise, the price may be too high.
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If RPG Boards proves to be our only option, I'm sure we'll take it. It's definately a nice offer, as opposed to just shutting us down.


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« Reply #22 on: 2001-09-15 03:26:00 »
Hear hear. The simple nature of this board is a lifesaver for me when I'm on a 56K modem. Take nextff as an example - the design looks beautiful, it's a great layout - but when I'm at home on a modem, each page takes absolutely agggggeeeessssss to load. (BTW, SaiNt, that's not a criticism as such ... it's not YOUR fault people use large pictures for their sigs and avatars. Lots of good boards have just the same problem). I just like the way I can check out 3-4 updated threads in here in less than a minute.

I agree with everything that Srethron said - we're very grateful that this is an option and we may very well like to take it up  :wink:

If we could take it up *and* keep a setup like our current one (everything Srethron mentioned...especially a lack of avatars and iamges-in-signatures) that'd be superb.


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« Reply #23 on: 2001-09-15 05:44:00 »
Try YABB, it's free, and very customizable.
 http://yabb.xnull.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://yabb.xnull.com/

Look at an example at http://www.3dgpu.com" TARGET=_blank>www.3dgpu.com


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« Reply #24 on: 2001-09-15 06:10:00 »
-Hey Im alex,owner of NEXTFF.com

ok i like the baord, so what im gonna do is either ill make a separate forum on our board, or ill host this one, BUT there are some things you gotta do, all active members must register at nexff's forums, if that happens, then thats all you gotta do, but if you dont wanna do that, then youll have to put a banner of ours on the BOTTOM of your forum pages.

-thats really all i can do for yas... sorry  :(