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James Pond

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>_> I have a new found love for HD.
« on: 2007-01-15 17:53:14 »
Just downloaded a HD Metallica concert and f*** me, the quality is aces!

HD Metallica gig
Right Click > View Image for the full size versions



DVD of Iron Maidens Rock in Rio



NEEEEEEEED Xbox360 HDDVD Drive tbh.

Especially if bands start making HD versions of their concerts.
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« Last Edit: 2007-01-15 17:55:33 by James Pond »

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Re: >_> I have a new found love for HD.
« Reply #1 on: 2007-01-15 18:25:22 »
Heh.

And the original is not in real HD, either - only 544 lines. Basically, a PAL DVD is capable of that, except that the horizontal resolution will be lower (720 instead of 960 the picture has). The screengrab is really sharp for the resolution, though. So, a real HD recording at least has the capability of looking even better. Whether it does... well, that depends. :)

The softness in the second picture is probably somewhat due to source being soft - either camera out of focus, camera not very good, master tape not very good or something like that - DVD can do better than that.

But indeed, I do not understand people who say that HD format is not needed. I think that they either don't have eyes, or don't have large enough TV/projector/whatever. Even the WMV HD demos from MS look very, very nice compared to regular DVD.

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Re: >_> I have a new found love for HD.
« Reply #2 on: 2007-01-15 21:19:37 »
Get some CG Movie trailers with a 720p or higher resolution to really see detail.
Say for example Shreak 2, Cars or something newer.
CG movies show up nicer on HD thats for sure.

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Re: >_> I have a new found love for HD.
« Reply #3 on: 2007-01-16 00:03:54 »
Its full 1080i Jari, but VLC scales it down fora screenshot for some reason.

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Re: >_> I have a new found love for HD.
« Reply #4 on: 2007-01-16 00:40:41 »
Well, then I must be blind. I can see why HD is needed for games (hell, 640x480 is way too low resolution), but I don't really see how a movie could look MUCH better than the standard DVD quality. Then again, I don't own a 42'' television (and provably will never get one).

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Re: >_> I have a new found love for HD.
« Reply #5 on: 2007-01-16 00:43:27 »
Sorry, can you seriously not see the difference in quality between the DVD of Rock in Rio, and the HD Picture?

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« Reply #6 on: 2007-01-16 01:40:25 »
Its full 1080i Jari, but VLC scales it down fora screenshot for some reason.

Hmmm, so it has scaled it to one quarter.... no wonder it's so sharp, VLC is basically doing supersampling when it scales it for screenshot. :P

Not that it wouldn't be sharp otherwise - but it actually does get some benefit to perceived sharpness from this scaling. Especially so if the original 1080i was even a teeny weeny bit on the soft side.


Well, then I must be blind. I can see why HD is needed for games (hell, 640x480 is way too low resolution), but I don't really see how a movie could look MUCH better than the standard DVD quality.

Awwwww. :lol: I think that you might fall into the 'lack of large enough display device', rather than just blindness. :)

Let's put it this way; home theater setups - with a projectors - have gotten lot more common in the past three years. And I mean something like tenfold more common. I suppose that the average screen is about... hmmm, 80 inches. Diagonal, of course. I'm feeling way too lazy to calculate how wide and high the picture actually is. :P

Anyway, when you put something like 720x480 or 720x540 on that screen, it doesn't look very high resolution anymore.

Don't get me wrong - it does look awesome, and the largest problem (IMHO) is in the bad video mastering; horrible macroblocking in some titles, conversions from film to interlaced and back again, but an increase in the resolution is most welcome. Assuming of course that they can find good enough source material for releases; a HD-movie made from a source that was soft for a DVD is not going to be any sharper for merely being HD.

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Re: >_> I have a new found love for HD.
« Reply #7 on: 2007-01-16 07:44:00 »
Yeah, I dont get it either tbh Jari :/

Looks lovely when its fullscreened on the PC though :D

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Re: >_> I have a new found love for HD.
« Reply #8 on: 2007-01-16 10:56:20 »
Sorry James Pond, I haven't seen that DVD. Well, I supose you are right. If you have a very big screen It could make a real diference. But for a 25'' screen... I don't think the difference is really noticiable most of the time.

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Re: >_> I have a new found love for HD.
« Reply #9 on: 2007-01-16 12:59:54 »
Sorry James Pond, I haven't seen that DVD.

The Screencap of it is right below the HD Picture >_<

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Re: >_> I have a new found love for HD.
« Reply #10 on: 2007-01-16 14:14:05 »
Oh, ok, I thought both images were from the HD version. Well, come on, as Jari said, a DVD can look far better than what that image depicts.