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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8275 on: Yesterday at 06:04:11 »
@Walkingplague

The tool Black Chocobo can edit your save and your location. If you change it to Bone Village, everything should be fine.

Or you take the lower exit from the dark cave, if you still got a save - it brought me back to the entrance.

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The Corneo-villa of the dark cave had a graphics bug. I picked Tifa and Aeris and as i entered the room with Corneo's desk, Aeris was inside the desk. Didn't have consequences though - i could proceed normally.


The stat system has a really nasty quirk. A certain boss forced confusion and peerless on Tifa, who protected herself with [added effect] + [mystify]. She was confused the whole fight and nothing could heal that, not even death. Tifa's spinning corpse was...unsettling.
I am really thinking about scrapping status defenses altogether because the really nasty bosses seem to force them anyway and my protections prevent a cure.
Is there a way to change that effect? I mean - i have nothing against protect rings and touph rings for everyone but that seems so counterintuitive, especially since i already get a hefty stat malus for protecting myself through materia.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8276 on: Yesterday at 08:43:12 »
Hello! Finally at the end game here farming for ultimate weapons and noticing I don't have Morph at all. I read through a bunch of pages and it sounds like it was somewhere in the early game. I played on the wrong .exe until about Fort Condor, so that might explain why I missed it. Is there anywhere I can find one at this point in the game?

Morph was sitting in the garden next to Aeris' house, so it should still be obtainable (unless playing on a different version/vanilla and grabbed Cover from there instead).


Hi Sega Chief,

I extracted your mod with IroNite tool. I noticed there is a folder named "hext" in unpacked folder. What files and values do i need to change, to have materia equip effect that i would like to play. For example, i want materia equip effect like Master Magic gives +70 to all stats (strength, vit, mag, spi, dex, luck) and max hp +10%, max MP +20%. Do i need to change for all 4 txt in hext folder? Or just files that ff7 exe file that i want to play with mod setting in 7H (ff7_bc.exe)?

You only need to change the file that targets your intended .exe (the listed exe is at the top of the file; there's one for ff7.exe, ff7_en.exe (steam), ff7_bc.exe, and ff7_mo.exe). There should be a block of addresses toward the end of the file, each with 16 bytes. The first byte is the stat value, the second byte is a modifer for positive/negative (00 if it's positive, FF if it's negative). The stat value is signed, so the max range is 127 positive/negative (but it's advised to avoid 3-digit values as they won't appear correctly in the menu).

This is an example (70 in each stat, 10%HP, 20%MP:
[Offset] = 46 00 46 00 46 00 46 00 46 00 46 00 0A 00 14 00
That makes: 70 Strength, 70 Vitality, 70 Magic, 70 Spirit, 70 Dexterity, 70 Luck, 10%HP, and 20%MP in that order.

Thing is though, each Materia has a byte set to it for which set of bonuses/penalties it uses. So what to do is, change the last offset to match the values I posted above and then set Master Magic in the kernel to use the same bonus/penalty set as KOTR.


Sega chief! i posted on one of your you tube videos about this issue, figure id put it on here and ask again. The sp level up system for me was giving +5 stat boosts per use. Just wondering if this has been fixed at all? anybody else have this issue playing nt mod?

The older .exes for NT set it up so that sources would give +5 per use instead of +1; this was recently removed as it meant trouble if the .exe failed to patch and could leave players heavily under-statted. If using 7h you need to get some vanilla .exes as the IRO now patches in .exe changes automatically at run-time. The normal installer shouldn't have this issue as it patches the .exes directly with the new changes and should revert the 5>1 behaviour.


Hello,

First time poster and I want to say I'm really loving the New Threat mod. The new fights and tweaks to the stats/materia have been great and I love all the little humor added to the game.

I don't know if this is a bug or if I'm doing something wrong, but I just can't seem to get the Chocobuckle Enemy Skill. I've just gotten out of Midgar and am at the Chocobo Farm, but the chocobos don't seem to want to use the move. I feed the chocobo a Gysahl Green then use Quarry Fuse (which I assume replaced L5 suicide) but the chocobo just runs away every time. I've tried other things like using Quarry Fuse without feeding it a green and also waiting until it finished eating the green, but every time the chocobo just runs away.

Am I doing something wrong? Is it not a 100% chance it will use the move?

Thanks in advance for any help.

First off, Chocobuckle only gets used if a Mimmett Green (or Sylkis Green) is used on the chocobo first. The other greens don't flip the flag for Chocobuckle (this is something from vanilla game).

But the other issue seems to be that while the set-up for getting the skill is the same (it's done by tracking the attack ID rather than the nature of the attack itself), the problem is that if the skill kills the chocobo then it won't use Chocobuckle and as Quarry Fuse isn't percentile damage like L5 Suicide was, it makes it trickier to learn later in the game. In the meantime, try using sense on a chocobo to get its HP, and if Quarry Fuse is dealing way more damage than its MaxHP try putting MBarrier on it before using. I think what I'll do is set the chocobo's HP to something extremely high to circumvent this issue next time I make a patch.

Thanks, I found it. Now I am now in the post game and I am a little lost of what to do and what order use.

First thing to do is visit the bottom of the north crater, opening up all the chests you can find. There is a boss sitting on each route though so make sure to save the game before going down there. Characters also give a fixed item after reuniting so don't worry about what paths you send them down. Key things to grab are Shield (first screen), Planet (right-side last screen) + Gospel Spark, HP Plus (left-down), and some other bits and pieces. If encounters get too bothersome, consider turning them off at a save point or equipping Sneak Attack + Teleport. When you reach the bottom, a bunch of stuff will be unlocked.

There's no real fixed order for them, but I would advise always starting with the Crater first to get as much stuff from it as possible so you have more to work with when tackling the extra stuff. To know where to go for the Lv.4 Limits, a new NPC gets added to the Highwind cockpit that gives hints about it. Tifa and Cid need to be party leader to trigger theirs, which can be swapped using another new NPC in the Operations Room (right-side NPC).

-) Materia Caves
-) Lv.4 Limit Bosses (1 per character, Cait Sith technically has one but it's for a material to make his ultimate weapon instead)
-) Junon Leagues
-) Battle Square (Normal, Special, Extra - this last one is accessed through an NPC on the left-side of the hallway)

@Walkingplague

The tool Black Chocobo can edit your save and your location. If you change it to Bone Village, everything should be fine.

Or you take the lower exit from the dark cave, if you still got a save - it brought me back to the entrance.

@Sega Chief

Spoiler: show
The Corneo-villa of the dark cave had a graphics bug. I picked Tifa and Aeris and as i entered the room with Corneo's desk, Aeris was inside the desk. Didn't have consequences though - i could proceed normally.


The stat system has a really nasty quirk. A certain boss forced confusion and peerless on Tifa, who protected herself with [added effect] + [mystify]. She was confused the whole fight and nothing could heal that, not even death. Tifa's spinning corpse was...unsettling.
I am really thinking about scrapping status defenses altogether because the really nasty bosses seem to force them anyway and my protections prevent a cure.
Is there a way to change that effect? I mean - i have nothing against protect rings and touph rings for everyone but that seems so counterintuitive, especially since i already get a hefty stat malus for protecting myself through materia.

Yeah, she isn't hidden properly; there's some logic going on with the Wall Market fields to display one of two field models and I ran afoul of it.

I'm scrapping ignore status defence from the final update, as it causes too many problems and goes against the grain of preparing a team. Peerless can be removed using Debarrier or Dispel, but if a status is forced through when resistance is innate (from armour, materia, etc.) then it stays on as what status immunity effectively is in this game is a toggle lock.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8277 on: Yesterday at 14:31:56 »
Hey guys,

    I mistakenly tried using this mod with the reunion mod and it added weird lines under text in the game menu. Would anyone know how to correct this issue? I use this mod as an iro in 7th heaven. I have deactivated the reunion mod and still have the issue.
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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8278 on: Yesterday at 15:39:05 »
I'm scrapping ignore status defence from the final update, as it causes too many problems and goes against the grain of preparing a team. Peerless can be removed using Debarrier or Dispel, but if a status is forced through when resistance is innate (from armour, materia, etc.) then it stays on as what status immunity effectively is in this game is a toggle lock.

I kind of loved it TBH, made the fight a real challenge and I thought it being undispellable (I had Ribbon on Barret) was intended. I had to reload twice or thrice even though I was steamrolling everything at that point with 4x Cut Powersoul, 4x Cut Missing Score (4x mastered Osmose) and 14x 150% Break/turn from Cloud (Contain with 4x Quadra Magic, MP Turbo, MP Absorb and W-Magic). Don't remember exactly how I won the fight but I think the inflicted character died from Dual and lost the status that way while I managed to keep the others alive somehow.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8279 on: Yesterday at 15:45:42 »
-) Junon Leagues


Speaking of the Junon Leagues, are they unlocked at a certain point of the story or do you need to be a certain level? I think I did them immediately following the Junon UW Reactor (Powersoul + Curse Ring) and found them perhaps a little too easy only losing three-four fights in total. Are you able to do them earlier than that if you do a powergaming run (not overleveling but optimize your characters hard)?

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8280 on: Yesterday at 20:08:01 »
First off, Chocobuckle only gets used if a Mimmett Green (or Sylkis Green) is used on the chocobo first. The other greens don't flip the flag for Chocobuckle (this is something from vanilla game).

But the other issue seems to be that while the set-up for getting the skill is the same (it's done by tracking the attack ID rather than the nature of the attack itself), the problem is that if the skill kills the chocobo then it won't use Chocobuckle and as Quarry Fuse isn't percentile damage like L5 Suicide was, it makes it trickier to learn later in the game. In the meantime, try using sense on a chocobo to get its HP, and if Quarry Fuse is dealing way more damage than its MaxHP try putting MBarrier on it before using. I think what I'll do is set the chocobo's HP to something extremely high to circumvent this issue next time I make a patch.

Hi Sega,

Thanks for the response, using Mimmett Greens did the trick! Your passion for taking the time to answer questions here and continued work on the mod really shows in its quality and I'm loving it so far. In regards to your last point about the chocobo's HP, it looks like you may have done that already as the chocobos near the farm had 10,000 hp when I sensed it. I don't know about the other chocobo areas as I haven't gotten that far but I assume they would be similar as well.

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8281 on: Today at 08:50:52 »
Hi Sega Chief,

i started a new playthrough in Arrange mode. Will i be able to end the game? I heard something about a bug that lets the game crash at the endboss...? I am tempted to do a run entirely without Mr. Smile but if i can't see the scene anyways...

Regarding Light Nation: In the normal mod you can hurt him and he morphs into a peace ring. This time i could not hurt him at all and had to wait until he ran out of mp to finish off Rufus (because of White Wind). I looked a bit around with Prod Clod and found the Light Nation entry and stats and all but i could not find the reason for his invulnerability. How did you do that?

What is the damage formula in this game? Is it different from the base game? I am asking because if i manage to get 255 Def or Mdef the received damage drops drastically - way below the 230 or even 240 level. In this playthrough Barret already had 160 Def with lvl 16 (Cover ftw!) but the damage reduction was...maybe 40% compared to ~30 Def Aeris...i wonder where the sweet spot in the early-midgame is...

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8282 on: Today at 11:26:17 »
Hi guys, one question: Does Multicut works with commandcounter??

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Re: [FF7PC-98/Steam] New Threat Mod (v1.5)
« Reply #8283 on: Today at 14:10:43 »
Oh my god, the Goldberry boss. It was a very long battle (I am in CD2 still, just after Cloud backs). I managed to do them after several trys and when I found a good strategy it taken over 50 minutes to kill them. Chronocure was the key, but I had it because I had "Alpha" before change the version. Anyway was fun :P (I have a video of it xD).

Btw, if a character has equipped "Fury Ring" (The autoberserker one), Chronocure is able to "heal" it. Is it deliberated?

Thanks for the mod :P